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>Insex long dead
>Kink going full vanilla
>Realtimebondage and Hardtied focused on BBC
>PD nearly dead
>Jap stuff is censored or weird
>Obscenity laws make things tame

Seriously, who makes good content anymore?
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>>666471
How is Kink going vanilla? Haven't been into it for a while (read: six years)
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>>666477

http://www.xbiz.com/news/186231

They're rebranding, which seems to chinned closing down certain sites and making others tamer, which they've progressively been doing for a while anyway.
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>>666471
There's nobody making anything like insex. They were by far the best. Kink still puts out something good every now and then.
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This should be enough pics to keep the thread viable.
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I like the milking...
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>>666471
PD was the genius behind all of this. Once he was hobbled no one stepped up to bring that incredible creativity back.
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>>666515

He really was. It just makes me wonder why nobody has followed in his footsteps. Was he just so far ahead of his time or are people put off because of the legal shit he got into?
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>>666471
queensnake is pretty fucked up, if thats what you like.
Not always bondage though
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>>666509
The milking was great on insex. Also the Glamor table vid was epic, not a big scat fan but that enema scene when she lets go of a massive crap inside her is pure filthy. You can even hear her break role and muble omg as she mud butts all over the place
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>>667058

It is mostly the legal shit. Most 'civilized' (read, 'have an economy which is non-marginal enough that citizens can be distracted from real problems by invented moral outrage' ) nations are steadily passing laws banning 'fringe' (read, not vanilla gonzo) porn, painting it with the same brush as pedos.

When there is the very real chance that you and potentially anyone who works with you can get their name splattered on headlines as being arrested for violating 'child porn' laws...

As to the OP's question: There are a few Kink.com sites which are resisting the vanillification trend to some degree - Infernal Restraints\Sexually Broken is basically insex-slightly-tamer-edition. Other than that, some of the stuff coming out of eastern Europe is interesting.
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>>666471
Elite Pain.

Though I really wish they had more actual sex in their videos.
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>>666480
>This entails ceasing to shoot Public Disgrace and Bound in Public, which incorporate audience members and extras, and rebranding HardCoreGangBangs as FantasyGangBangs.

Why.jpg
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>>668828
>Why.jpg

the current administration doesn't give a fuck about obscenity prosecutions, with the exception of max hardcore. so on a federal level they're ok, but locally they may be getting some pressure. What is more likely however is that the credit card companies and banks are putting pressure on them to tone it down or risk losing the ability to accept payments or even deposit their earnings. Thats the exact reason why they closed down pornstar punishment a few years back.
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>>668758
I never thought I'd read the best summary of the upcoming downfall of democracy on /hc/ of all places. You are my hero for the week, anon!
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slightly off topic:
theres this (anti-)inses-documentary made by insex model "moonshine". The first 30secs are on m*therl*ss 87E2F22

Anybody have the full movie? (Its NOT "Graphic sexual horror")
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>>668834
But why the public shoots in particular I wonder.

They always do that talk to the whores before and after the shoot and everything and the extras are obviously staged as well.
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>>668941
>But why the public shoots in particular I wonder.
If its a banking/cc payment thing there is no logic to it, just some ceo has a bug up his ass about teh prons. If that's the case however I wish they'd call out the companies publicly.
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>>668914
Here are the first 30 Minutes, it is pure gold for every Insex Fan!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsagAnvp1mU
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>>666480
It's because BDSM is becoming more mainstream, and you make more money selling to the masses. Really not all bad, the cinematography is better and the girls are generally hotter.
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>>666477
>>666515
6 years ago I knew what a cock was *for*, but that was the extent of it. I'm familiar with Kin, Insex, Realtime, Hardtied, but PD? Haven't a fucking clue... at least I don't think. What's the full name?
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>>669678
"Brent Scott, former Carnegie Mellon professor, known as 'pd'"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insex
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>>669637
Except now you might as well just call it "B", if you take my meaning.
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>>669678
Which scene is this picture from??
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>>666471
queensnake
torturegalaxy
elitepain (I like very few of their stuff)
paintoy
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>>669692
Isn't PD like semi-retired now? I stopped keeping track of Hardtied/Infernal Restraints updates like 2 years ago and not to long after he had other bdsm riggers doing the videos and they just never felt quite as good.
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>>666481
>>667058
Bumpin with these
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>>670146
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>>670152
This goddess Ariel piper
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>>666471
ElitePain are the only people who are innovating at the moment. PD is still around, but he's very much on the sidelines. And Intersec (HardTied, realtimebondage, etc) just fired Elise Graves who was literally the second-best person to PD in terms of her creativity within the context of BDSM.

Sad times.
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>>670025
Paintoy is fucking cancer.
Queensnake is stupid. All the grils are fugly anyway.
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>>670218
>just fired Elise Graves
wut. why did they fire her?

Although isn't Sister Dee rigging now?
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>>670225
/r/ told me the sniffer is elise graves is her stuff good and could you recommend a few video/shots?
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>>670225
It's unclear. On her FetLife she mentions having more morals than any of the others there. There has been some shady stuff to do with consent issues and insex since its very inception, so it might be something to do with that.

As far as I know, Sister Dee has a relatively minor role with intersec at the moment. If you want to know more about their structure, see their fetlife at Intersec_Crew.
Last I saw, Raine DeGrey was doing some rigging, as well as Jack Hammer and that philos dude who seems quite tame to me. Time we got Cyd Black back. He's as evil as PD.
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>>670234
Almost all of Elise's stuff is great. Anything with her and PD on InfernalRestraints or RealTimeBondage will be awesome. Stay away from sexuallybroken, it's shit and caters for the mainstream vanilla crowd more than anyone else imho (big money maker for them too). She did a great shoot with cyd black with an inflatable collar, I just can't remember what it was called. Her earlier stuff with pd is awesome too.
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>>670234
I find her to be rather unattractive
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>>670247
>Sexually broken

This. Was some of the most vanilla shit I've seen and I can still get off to vanilla hardcore but they are totally boring. Idk how thet get subs.


Anyone seen assylum? The chubby guy needs to just direct and hire a better dom but I like a lot of the scenes so far.

>Also this thread made me remember how much I miss pornstar punishment
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>>670243
>On her FetLife she mentions having more morals than any of the others there.
Interesting. link?
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Damn. I hope the content of the sites the cease to produce will remain available.
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>>666480
Also don't forget that they suspended new content on Pissing or a while.
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>>670384
She just hs written this on her profile:

> may have been fired for having more integrity than all those motherfuckers put together, but that doesn't mean you won't see me around... :)

>Keep an eye out.
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Iam suprised only one anon mentioned TG, it was fucking best.
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>>669440
Fuck, this doc is depressing. I'm glad I never gave these people my money.
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>>670372
>assylum

They're doing a damn good job of not having any torrents of their stuff.
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>>670425
>I am the least retarded person in a room full of retards
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>>670234
>>670247
Ok will check out stat
Thanks aaron
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Is there any femdom with intensity similar to that of Queensnake, but with Male subs?
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>>671292
Ingrid Frost, perhaps.
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>>670585
kek
>>671292
Also perhaps some TopGrl stuff, especially with people like Claire Adams doing the subbing.
There are some insex videos with various female dommes too, which are quite lewd.
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>>670372
What's wrong with Sexually Broken? Everything doesn't have to involve spanking, you know.
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>>672071
Nobody stipulated that everything did have to involve spanking. The fact that SexuallyBroken exists as a website run by Intersec Interactive represents how low they have stooped in order to pull in extra cash. SexuallyBroken doesn't live up to the standards that Insex or any other Intersec website had. It's not about BDSM, it's just about hardcore sex. If I wanted that, I could go to any one of thousands of other content creators.
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>>667409
link to the glamor table video?
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>>666471
there's some Hungarian company called elite pain which still does some full on stuff. I've found a few of their videos on xvideos and if you're into legit tears and pain you should check it out.
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>>672235
>It's not about BDSM, it's just about hardcore sex.
Did you know that the one producer that made porn with the most refined BDSM is Max Hardcore?
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>>672385
I duno man... Some of the shit coming out of Brazil and Japan...
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Does anyone know any good BDSM comics?
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>>672429
fansadox


For me , all those BDSM sites are quite dull because they display some bdsm, but no sex, or with dildoes.

Not really Hard to the core WITH bdsm, that being rough.

If there are some sex, like blowjob or anal, they are so quick or fast (assuming they are not doing it with a dildo) that it becomes a comedy.

No rough bdsm sex, most of it just a farce with just dungeon bondage, put on display for seconds or minutes, change position.

Oh and fuck your vibrating dildo and the girl faking orgasm on it.

Now you see what I'm talking about, so, any GOOD rough bdsm sex? because all I could found was some amateur shit.
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>>672447
Stop talking and tell me where that pic came from.
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>>672385
Max Hardcore knew fuck all about BDSM.
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>>671292
Demanding sauce, kind sir.
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>>670234
>>670247
>>670802
I saw one and can say it was throuly enjoyable still want sauce on the sniffer pic thou
Also does she ever sub in anything ?
Thanks Aaron's
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>>672276
It's a beautiful scene :D Just search for "glamoursink"
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Anyone remember that insex video set of three girls tied at the neck to a post in a barn while they were each whipped in turns? I've been looking for it for years :(
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The problem is its often just fucking and very basic visually (girl is nude for example). There is a lack of "icing on the cake".

There needs to be more stuff involving forced orgasms, and clothed bondage.
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>>666480
Dat foot. Like a linebacker.
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>>672974
this.

I can never find good shit like this anymore.

Pretty much every porn site seems to have toned it down.
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>public disgrace is going down
Aw man, that shit really satisfied my humiliation fetish.
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>>672990
mine too

Honestly its my favorite. I'm going to be stuck browsing for older videos and lurking /hc/ until i find something new
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>>672990
I personally just found that shit awkward and lame.
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>>672990
I blame alina li, apparently her PD shoot was the reason for her getting out of porn, and I wouldn't be surprised if she brought some sort of suit against the company to bankroll her retirement
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>>673032
Citation needed for everything you just said.
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>>668827

oh please... insex was streaming fucking liveshows in 2000 and elitepain hasn't even managed to build a decent website to this day... also: shitty settings most of the time.

don't get me wrong, i like seeing girls getting beaten, but A LITTLE effort to make it look nice is not too much to ask, is it?
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>>669440

"semi-brainless amateurs" .. yep, that's EXACTLY what these stupid whores were... but NOW they are whining about what "happended" to them ... is is SO hard to take a look at the website you are shooting for and deciding if you want to do this or not?
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>>672429
shiniez.deviantart
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>>666476
these were the days; also diabolic triples
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>>673170
Does anyone have the rest of this documentary? I'd love to see it.
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>>669440
Had to turn it off. Gagged at the shit part.
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>>668827
But the restraints are weak in elite pain
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Why so little sauce / links here?
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>>672455
A million anons have asked that question before you.
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>>672921
>>672921
>>672921
What you're looking for in Livestock from 2003.

The three women getting whipped are 49, 412, and 731.

I popped it up here for you
pastebin uJ9PnwuC
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>>673699
>pastbin
>provide idiot instructions
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>>673284
I think it's on Xhamster
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>>673912
Not even sure what you are saying. If you need help, add a .com then a / after the word pastebin, read the text in that pastebin post.
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>>673068
I didn't hear that specific rumor but a lot of what I heard about Insex being shut down was due to them playing very fast and loose with their models limits
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>>672447
probably some sort of contracting stuff for the no/limited sex that and for most of these site they are trying to show off the bondage/predicament and that's hard to do when you've got some burly guy pounding away at the girl, so a dildo/vibe on a stick works better

and about faking orgasms? it's porn, everyone is faking their orgasms
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>>673699
Love me some 731
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>>669440
>hurr Nazis

Lost me there.
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>>673915
What do I search for?
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>>668941
insider info: princess donna was a psycho who put her crew and models in nonsexy danger off camera and the company was cracking down on that at the same time as CALOSHA was getting weird about certain other "workplace injuries"
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>>675627
What exactly was Donna doing? She was trained by PD wasn't she? He does have a history of consent violations soooo....
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>>672982
I really wish mylovelytoy was still up.
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>>675627
Citations please.
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who is the second to last photo?
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Bumpage
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>>673699
That's it! You rock
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>>671292
Yapoo's Market has some fairly intensive stuff, sadly (from my point of view) half of it is scat.
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>>673350

fuck me... IV ... ANYONE knows the name / title of the update where IV got her feet caned? i never found that again ... it wasn't an "IV"-titled update... i think she was decoration ...
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>>671292
queensnake started a male sub site too, but I don't know how it went.

check http://www.qsbdsm.com/ (official blog), there are some QS CBT links as well
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just found this old pic on a tumblr page
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>>676520
You are welcome.

>>676717
Do you have any more details? Can you remember who else was in the video? Was it in the studio or at the farm? How was she tied?

I might be able to look it up for you, as I probably have it on my HDD, but I am going to need more information.
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>>676855
Gotta love wenona.
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>>676855
Vid?
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>>676958
I don't think I have the exact one, but here's my wenona stuff. Tell me what you want and I'll ul it.
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>>666515
what happened to him?
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>>675886
i thought julian didn't make those greasy videos
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>>666481
ahhh would love source on this
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>>672998
Probably my fave PD shoot.
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>>677133
Can't find the video, bit i know I've seen it. That's insex model Piglet. Search for that and you might find your answer.
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>>675867
>>675627

She is one of the most ruthless Dommes (she has the cold calculating nature of Claire Adams combined with some of the mercilessness of Sandra Romain), and seems very single minded and very into her fetishes; when she took on Public Disgrace she pretty much dropped the ball on Wired Pussy).

TBH the outdoor Public Disgrace scenes often, not always, felt constrained and never authentic and instead awkward.

Sadly, the trend in BDSM porn seems to be away from creative and erotic scenarios to simple "tie and fuck" scenes.
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>>677159
Gotta love Brooke Lee Adams though :D

>>677147
Here it is:
https://mega co nz/#!gB5zWACS!TcHWg1UHDB6Qnr5w5e_vCTA1L7vk_z2wg3TglZXqvLo
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>>677156
thank you, leg
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>>677262
>>677133
Dammit.
This post >>677250 is meant for you two. That's the shoot you wanted the sauce of.
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>>667409
Link to the glamour table vid? Sounds amazing.
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>>666471
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>>677625
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>>677628
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>>677650
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>>677652
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>>677653
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>>677654
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>>671292

queensect.com
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>>676963
All of them
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Is that a fucking oven?
>>677656
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>>677839
Oy vey
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>>669440

anyone know the source for the scene at 14:51 and 23:11?
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>>677625
>>677628
>>677650
>>677652
>>677653
>>677654
>>677656
That chick had headphone in with a message playing on a loop about how she wasn't human and would be eaten by maggots and all kinds of other putrid stuff. Kept her in there for a long time... Overnight plus some.
There was a serial killer who did the same kind of thing with people he kidnapped.
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>>677997
How nice
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>>677997
daaaaaamn
source?

that is my fetish
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>>678212
thepiratebayInsex 2005 (rm)--------Maine Visit

l2read filenames
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>>676717
Is this the sauce?!?!? I've been looking for YEARS!!!
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>>677654
>that look of sheer terror

Nice...
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>>677663
Looks like there is only one malesub scene
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>>678266
are her legs supposed to look so purple?
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>>678241
Oh my god. The videos are in .rm format
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>>676880

it was an insex-studio scene/update. i have NO idea who else was in the video... maybe is was just a test-scene ...
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>>678253

what? the source of THAT particular picture?

"Insex IV Test"

http://www.imagefap.com/pictures/4662736/Insex-IV-Test

video is surely to be found somewhere
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-> Insex IV Test
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>>677890
The scene is called "Delicate". Now help me find the rest of the documentary :)
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>>668828
hardcoregangbang was already dead to me. Boundgangbangs 4lyf
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>>677656
Can I ask the possibly naive question, how exactly do you use your safeword from inside an oven?

Because, honestly, that's the kind of iffy shit that justifies them getting shot down.
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>>678327
you say it really loudly
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>>678332
She seems gagged, too in the exact previous picture.
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>>678333
say it REALLY loudly

Maybe she's into TPE
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>>678327
If you safeworded on Insex you tended to get booted off the property and never allowed to shoot with Insex ever again. PD was a fucking nutter, as far as I've heard.

There safewords were "Red" and "Uh uh, uh uh" repeated loudly. They tend to work even from inside there.
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>>678271
The really old ones (1990s) were in .viv format. You needed vivo media player to play them. I've converted them all to .avi

The .rm files are a pain, but play great with vlc. That site was always at least 10 years ahead of the curve with technology like this.
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>>678281
I don't remember any of the test scenes having a decoration, but I could be wrong. I'll try to look. Did IV have another name on the site?
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>>678327
She might've consented to that whole scene without a safeword, although i doubt it. I think PD just told her "too bad." Totally agree with you about that being the iffy shit that got them shut down.

Devil's advocate, they DID have a camera and microphone on her, so they couldn't heard an "uhn-uhh" and went and got her. IDK how much of that was truly isolation while they all went off to bed and how much of that was smoke and mirrors for the viewers. Could've been someone 5 feet away listening for a safeword via microphone the whole time.
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>>678345
>>678345
they could HAVE* heard

Phone keyboard.
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>>678345
>She might've consented to that whole scene without a safeword

Not him but that's not how consent works. It must be continuous, you can't just consent to possible future non-consent.

>IDK how much of that was truly isolation while they all went off to bed and how much of that was smoke and mirrors for the viewers

yeah, I agree, it's not easy to tell what exactly actually goes on in these cases. What's real and what's cut and pasted from footage.
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>>678347
>consensual non-consent
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>>678348
Consensual non-consent is roleplaying. Consent is continuous during the act. The partners just pretend that it's not. It's not consenting at a prior time to an actually non-consensual act in a future time.
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>>678335
There's a reason Insex shut down.
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>>678356
Yes, because their payment processors cut them off. Then PD founded intersec which basically does the same thing.
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>>677827
Here you go. Sorry for the late delivery:

https://mega co nz/#!1MIFUZoa!HBXE5ih-404jQprR-pE-R2LgQQtnZS291aOeOZQ1zms
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>>666480

Public Disgrace was my favorite porn series. Son of a bitch!

My favorite scene is the one where India Summer is getting fucked in the back of an erotic cake factory whilst the girls that worked there laughed and took pics.
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Credit card companies forced Brazzers to stop producing Asses In Public and Pornstar Punishment.

You don't have to pass laws to get porn stopped. The credit card companies will do the dirty work for the government. That way there are no 1st amendment challenges.
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>>678364
For some reason I find the other girls laughing at the fucked/humiliated girl even hotter than the actual fucking.
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>>672497
Heretic
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>>678362
Thank you for uploading it, but there's a password on it.
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>>678413
Lesdom is best dom
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>>678342

me neither. it could be that it was a double-scene with her and "26" but i'm not sure.

if i remember correctly, the update i'm talking about was online just for a few days or maybe 1 or two weeks, it disappeared with all of the other IV-Updates. it was stated by insex on the forum that she "requested" that her shoots are taken down for some reason...
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>>677890
>>678294

You'll find it on ero profile.
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>>678569
>Lesdom is best dom

Agreed.
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>>678511
>but there's a password on it.
Read up the thread.

Here is another one that was never released because it was considered too brutal even for insex standards. "Burning Love" with Syd and Sarah Jane Ceylon. Someone tell me how to upload it and I will.
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>>678681
>>but there's a password on it.
>Read up the thread.

Um i just did. I can't find where there's a mention of the password. Can't you just point it out?
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>>678681
>>but there's a password on it.
>Read up the thread.

I figured it out.
It's "wenona"

You don't have to be a GIGANTIC Faggot Anon.
In the time it took for you to write..
>Read up the thread
You could have just helped that Anon out.

Seriously.
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>>678681
Never realized that was never released. That one has been in my collection forever. What about it was too brutal? I've seem stuff much more fucked up on that site.

What other scenes were never released?
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>>678771

Oh bullshit... "never released" ... "toot brutal" ... LOL?
wasn't even intense...

http://de.xhamster.com/movies/1359246/insex_burning_love.html
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>>677274
here is the link to the glamour sink vid.
I tuned in for the enema, but I stayed because of the waterboarding :-)

myvidster com SLASH video/27437141/Glamour_Sink_-_Insex_-_Bdsmstreakcom
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>>678267
No. more reasons it's a good thing insex is gone.
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>>678831
>http://de.xhamster.com/movies/1359246/insex_burning_love.html
what the fuck is he putting on her vagina?
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>>679024
>de.xhamster.com/movies/1359246/insex_burning_love.html

Probably something that causes a burning sensation ... a capsaicin cream or something similar.

I've used one called "Finalgon" on a girls pussy... nice evening ;)
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>>672385
Max Hardcore is to BDSM what Justin Beiber is to music. I wish the man many rapes in his prison cell.
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Am I the only one that finds most BDSM really tame? The girls are doing it willingly and what's so hard about siting in a cage/being bound with rope for a couple of minutes? Hell, choking on some dick from deepthroat fucking is harder than that...
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>>679229

That's what made Insex so good. PD actually made it a challenge.
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I see Elite Pain mentioned a lot here and it is pretty good but after a while it gets boring. What was great about Insex is the variety of locations, instruments and techniques used on the girls. With Elite Pain, it's all CP.
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>>679375
Most of ElitePain's current stuff is shit. But some of the older stuff, such as the Wheel of Pain, etc, is awesome.
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>>678511
My bad. Pass is "wenona". Totally forgot about that when I ul'd it.
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>>673350
>>678253
>>678284
>>678285
This has been in my completely unsauceable folder for years I just wanted to say that this is the best thing I've ever seen I feels so much for you guys, no homo, fuck it homo all the way
I love you
>>678599 does this mean its going to be a living nightmare to find
>>678364
I require sauce/pics
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>>679567
No, it was easy to find.
http://k2s.cc file 51ab5d64c4dfd
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>>677060

IDK but I think he just got old. I remember watching some of that early Insex with tiny low res movies the size of a match cover, when I got my first DSL line. However, PD liked to structure scenes with elements of execution and death, always playing with "breaking their minds", and I NEVER liked ANY asphyxia since day 1. Like Max HC, he pushed at the limits until the limits of many kinksters (like me) were breached, and then he had to shut down Insex.

PD ("Professor D" ? he retired from a major college) is not the ultimate definer of D/s or BDSM
There is a very broad range in the fetish field, all the way from tickling to fake strangle and snuff films (Peachy Keen)
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>>679049

Max is already out and making new product.
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>>679229
You fail to understand BDSM.
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>>679229
>The girls are doing it willingly and what's so hard about siting in a cage/being bound with rope for a couple of minutes?

And that's why aspiring doms should get tied up to see what it feels like.

Something like a simple hogtie is a lot more challenging than you currently imagine.

Most of the positions you consider comfortable are actually stressful as shit.
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>>679622

His old stuff wasn't very good but without his taboo pushing, his new stuff is totally pointless. That Bonnie Rotten scene that got so much hype was really boring.
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You seem to be missing 20030730 - Squirt (Wenona, 810).rm
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>>679971
>his new stuff is totally pointless

I still have some of his old stuff. Some good stuff there. But I agree that his new stuff isn't worth downloading.
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