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What happened to vanilla hentai? 2016-01-23 11:01:31 Post No. 4169507
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Vanilla hentai this days are getting either rare to see or really shitty.
They rather animate or draw girls raped, gangraped, ntr, tentacled and all that shit instead of some nice vanilla.
And even those animated hentai that only feature those sick fetish are really shitty.
There was a time where there were put some effort into the plot too, even if it was a little, now it's only "MDick the rapist sue won again!!!", and the sex scenes are stupid.
And don't forget how the few animated vanilla hentai we can get it's either badly animated, it's something that maybe nobody wanted, or in rare cases, it is great.
I am still waiting Kyonyuu Fantasy, while questionable, they really had good moments (at least for me) that were a very nice touch, even if they were cliche, yet their animation studio totally ignored this series for an overrated piece of crap like Kuroinu, worst thing, Kuroinu has better design of the character yet it is wasted like that.
Japan, it is too damn fucking hard to have a little more of balance? There are people outside of your country that buy your shit but want the things you did before, not only "rape rape rape and only rape, ntr ntr ntr and only ntr, oh plot? throw some kinky lines that's all, oh vanilla? yeah put that sweet couple having a moment of ten seconds then ntr them"
Yeah this is just a rant because I am fucking mad
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>>4169507
Go to japan and talk to their parents. They clearly need some help.
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>>4169507
i accept all but rape/ntr/guro
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>>4169532
They are the fucking parents why don't they show authorities to their retarded children? Or do they suck to do it?
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>>4169507
hentai in general is getting rare and really shitty anon wake up
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I don't really enjoy any of those things either, but I assume they are going that route because they sell better. Do yourself a favor and switch to VN's, theres alot more vanilla there.
Also fuck you. DOTT was a great game.
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hahahaha fucking normies
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>>4169507
are there really a low number of 'great' vanilla hentais?
can you list any of them aside from these..
>Kanojo x Kanojo x Kanojo
>Stretta
>Eroge!
>Harem Time
>Fella Pure
>Mizugi Kanojo
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>>4169507
They're DRAWINGS. Fucking drawings. If you get butthurt about drawings (like most fags on /h/) you need some help. I'm not really into vanilla or rape or whatever, I just like anything with great art.
But when people cry about one-dimensional hentai girls in hentai, who's sole purpose is sex, it's just stupid. Hentai girls are for fucking, sometimes the ones fucking them aren't skinny feminine pretty-boy bishounens, sometimes they're alpha males that actually look like real men, sometimes they're tentacles/pigs/whatever. I don't know why people get so upset about that. If you're looking for good writing or compelling characters, don't look for it hentai. It's like looking for a delicious meal in a pile of shit, it doesn't make sense.
And like I said before, they're fucking drawings. If you get mad over drawings, you're too young to be on this site.
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>>4169602
Baku Ane as well.
Also Ero Manga!
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>>4169635
>If you're looking for good writing or compelling characters, don't look for it hentai.
I disagree, there actually is some hentai manga with good writing and complex characters. Most of them aren't vanilla hentai though. But yeah, I agree that these people are ridiculous for whining about this.
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>>4169507
I agree with you, in that I would be nice to see more of a loving and functional relationship in hentai, and it is sadly rare, or maybe I miss it some where some how.
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How about instead of watching vanilla hentai you watch REAL PORN LIKE A NORMAL FAGGOT, FAGGOT! Hentai exists because it allows people to create the impossible. Giant monsters fucking little girls will never happen irl. Thankfully we have hentai for that little dilemma. A guy fucking a bunch of women will and can happen irl. Thankfully we have 1,000,000 real porn movies to satisfy that shitty fetish.
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>>4169701
>watching 3D porn
You sick fuck
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>>4169507
Well, stop watching hentai then. Quit crying like a faggot. Theres nothing you can do about it. This website isn't for your personal blog so, fuck off to tumblr.
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>>4169507
>There are people outside of your country that buy your shit
The moment you realise that they do not in any way give a fuck about foreigners buying their shit.
Even normal anime is made specifically for viewing by the Japanese. Its just a bonus if companies from other countries want to license their anime or hentai. It doesn't matter if the foreigners want another season or more episodes, they go by the Japanese market for this stuff.
Considering that hentai itself is a very niche market and something which hardcore otaku are more than likely to buy than anyone else. You're going to get quite obscure and unorthodox fetishes.
TL;DR
Japan doesn't give a fuck about foreign markets. Its just a bonus to them if they sell overseas. They only make what they see a demand for in japan. Which is rape, gangbangs, NTR and tentacles.
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>>4169730
Exactly what this person said. So, quit your crying OP, because nothing can be done.
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Hahaha! True! Japan is doing amazingly well on their own land, with their own market. Why should they care about silly little Western people? The lot of you who think they should care are a real joke.
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>>4169507
The "First Love" series is fucking gold.
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>>4169507
I would agree with you if I hadn't had to ignore the sauce. I really would.
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>>4169507
>There are people outside of your country that buy your shit but want the things you did before
Goddamn westerners are fucking arrogant. Maybe Japanese companies don't care about what non-Japanese want to see in hentai.
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>>4169701
No fuck you
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It's fucking boring, that's what happened. People are desensitized to vanilla hentai after years of tentacle porn.
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>>4169860
That's fine and i don't support non western trash. i can play that game two fuck japan and there bullshit. i refuse to buy 20 man gang rape's repetitive rape scenes anything guro related such as heads cut off and fucked and or eye sockets fucked. major scat
shitting everywhere.any type of ntr or elf rape.
I don't give a rat's ass what Japanese company think fuck off and fuck the trash that is called hentai. the balance is horse shit.
i will NEVER buy a god dam thing ever again with trash such as above. i'll pirate for life.
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>>4170014
Make me cunt how about that? i got a better idea leave and get you're own shit board.
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>>4170001
4 LYFE.
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What ever happened to POV hentai?
or even hentai with no voiced protag?
that shit was my jam
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>>4170061
Play Visual Novels / Nukige for that.
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>>4170014
>/h/ is for ntr xD
Fuck off cuck
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>>4169507
Collaboration Works, Pink Pineapple and Mary Jane still produce quality stuff
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Are there any hentai/doujins where the girl gets NTR'd?
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Tfw no impregnation doujins that have good feels
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>>4169602
Tsugou no Yoi Sexfriend
Swing out Sisters
Idol Sister
Koikishi Purely Kiss
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Amakano is coming up anon. It's as vanilla as it can get, and the VNs are actually really fapworthy. Hopefully Mary Jane can do justice to piromizu's style.
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because vanilla is so fucking bland
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>>4170131
you're mom is bland also non vanilla is bland
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>>4169507
Guess we just have to wait anon, but I agree that the flood of NTR rape tentacle scat bullshit has to stop
I was watching kuroinu yesterday and my god those elves are hot as fuck, but I couldn't get past the fucking orcs and medieval rednecks fucking them
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>>4170085
kiasa wrote a Fate / stay night doujin where Sakura steals Shirou away from Rin. The second part only has a scanned sample until now.
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>>4171363
normi pls go
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>>4171363
I just fucking hate gangbangs in general. The girls are really great, but god damn I didn't come for a sausage party! And that main guy is such a braty little twat.
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>>4173632
Gangbangs have always been bad in my opinion, I like solo with a harem. That sends me into raging diamonds mode.
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>>4173725
I just like it when the girls are also enjoying it instead of the guy just using her as a fleshlight
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>>4169507
hentai is not for normies get over it, also all hentai is shit tier nowadays...
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>>4174086
>What is ntr
>What is rape
NORMIE BULLSHIT FUCK OFF!
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fuck vanilla its boring
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>>4174405
And rape is stale, NTR is predictable, and bdsm isn't fun without wax
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>>4174405
You'll grow up
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>>4170136
>you are mom
I agree with you but shush
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Hand holding
Cuddling
Stable monogamous relationship
Consensual sex in missionary position
All of this sick shit goes to >>>/d/
On a more serious note, try Dramatic Couple. And I think there was at least two or three doujins dumped few months back about a happy married couple.
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>>4170088
There are some. Also try this Anime:
>Genkaku Cool na Sensei ga Aheboteochi!
It has a happy double pregnant ending.
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>>4174556
>Hand holding
That and forever will be a meme and a joke.
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Vanilla makes my dick want to take a nap, but shitty art and animation make my dick want to kill itself. Really art and animation are my biggest issue with hentai. So long as the art and animation are good, I don't give a fuck if it's vanilla, rape, NTR, or whatever.
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>>4169701
>PORN
>>4169721
You know, it really is some kind of weird. As far as I've looked, the closest I've ever been able to get towards "erotica depicting sex between creatures that at least vaguely resemble actual humans in behavior and motivation, that sex also being a sort that I myself might actually enjoy having?" Certain sets of hentai have been basically it. Definitely miles above anything else I've found yet. Getting that in actual-people porn movies? Haven't had, like... ANY luck with that.
Shit, I don't even like that classification, "vanilla." Depicting sex as actual human beings would have it, in all its glory, is actually really goddamn -hard.- The way people actually move, and feel, and talk during actual sex? It's as deep as the abyss. Almost anybody who has actually had it could tell you, just sharing personal space with a preferred partner has endless complexity to it, ripe for depiction, before anybody has even touched a sex organ. And most shit I've seen so far doesn't try at all.
The closest I've found that has? Some fucking hentai, of all things. Absurd as that feels to even type.
I can at least find plenty that fits the former, looser conditions pretty easily, actually, and generally stuff that hits a bare minimum level of vaguely-professional art quality too. Throw a stone on g.e-hentai and I'll hit something like that in a couple of minutes. The last time I visited hentaifoundry (western stuff), I found literally nothing.
And I actually would like that, because it would be nice for me if I could find somewhere to regularly find stuff with more "western" sensibilities (a certain sort of sex positivity and less rigid/IMO obnoxious gender tropes that are harder to find/get away from in hentai), but I haven't the faintest idea where to look. Even shit like, I dunno, Slipshine or those other smut comics places that sell some kind of "sex-positive comics! woo!" brand have precious little of just, "regular people fucking."
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>>4176042
This is accurate to my emotions. But also for me personally, the issue is far more complex then even this to explain it is futile.
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>>4176042
(Cont.)
Contrast that to the endless "high school/college/workplace sweethearts get their woo on" hentai oneshots.
Maybe it's just that Japan produces SO much more in the department, that there's a fucking niche industry, a whole umbrella genre of comics. Professional, high-quality, "western" erotica?" If the former stuff is for nerds, otaku and the like, the latter is... do we even have that? There are smutty comics written in English going back for decades, sure, but they're... "a different kind of weird," is how I would describe the few that I've come across.
Maybe excluding tumblr? But if actually *finding* new shit for porny comics fitting a particular taste is anything of a challenge *ever* on g.e-hentai, on tumblr it feels Sisyphean. Hell, might as well wade through furry material, it feels like.
But anyway. What were we talking about? Oh yeah. That Which We Know As Vanilla isn't exactly in short supply, at least. Reeeally good stuff might not be easy to find in the pile, and I couldn't speak for new releases, but at least there is a pile.
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>>4176069
Did you read anything from makio yet? Many of his stories are pretty dark, but they feel much more real than pretty much every other artist I know of. He's also got a few Comedy Loli oneshots.
http://exhentai.org/?f_doujinshi=0&f_manga=0&f_artistcg=0&f_gamecg=0&f_western=0&f_non-h=0&f_imageset=0&f_cosplay=0&f_asianporn=0&f_misc=0&f_search=artist%3Amakio%24+english&f_apply=Apply+Filter
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>>4176077
I think I will just dump his most recent one here:
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>>4176077
>http://exhentai.org/?f_doujinshi=0&f_manga=0&f_artistcg=0&f_gamecg=0&f_western=0&f_non-h=0&f_imageset=0&f_cosplay=0&f_asianporn=0&f_misc=0&f_search=artist%3Amakio%24+english&f_apply=Apply+Filter
Ahhh, I think I caught at least Love Affair before it got taken down/paywalled(?) on Fakku, but I hadn't caught the artist's name. Thanks for the plug, dude! First impressions are looking goooooood.
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>>4176086
>>4176085
He does have a chapter on Fakku about a nun being raped, but he mostly draws for other publishers, not Wani.
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>>4176119
Most of makio's works aren't really fappable, but I still think he's a way better artist than the majority of his competition.
They could really learn something from him when it comes to storytelling. Many other artists are left with nothing if you take away their art style.
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>>4176123
Oh, to make it clear: they're unfappable because the plots are too depressing, not because he draws like shit. The style itself is pretty and you can instantly recognize it's him when you've seen it once.
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>>4176128
It's open-ended, but I want to believe that they're happy in the end. I don't think makio will write a follow-up. He likes to keep it subtle.
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>>4176129
Dump much-appreciated, amigo. Don't think I have much material on me that makes quite that much of an effort to sustain sense of disbelief, but I'll try to at least post some relatively sugary fare tomorrow to pay it forward.
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>>4176160
exhentai.org/g/470346/edb1981546/
Just something a few years old that I thought had a cute little artstyle and character interactions.
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>>4176775
16 pages.
Just some embarrassed kids acting more or less like embarrassed kids.
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>>4176777
The editing/translation might not be super-pro, but I found it charming enough all the same.
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>>4176782
IGNORE EMPTY POSTS. NOTHING YOU SEE
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>>4176784
This is the page that made me look it up, thought it'd be nice to see something that put some effort into selling kissin.
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>>4173947
This. What this person said.
While I agree with your rant, short of creating your own/commission from artist all you can do is wait.
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>>4176809
End.
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>>4176812
Very cute. Thanks for also dumping something here after I did.
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>>4169507
And then you visit any of the thousands of hentai containing boorus out there and are immediately proven wrong
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>>4169635
>being this mad over people having better standards than you
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>>4177019
>AUTISMUS MAXIMUS
Sounds like a potter spell ha
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>>4169507
A literal ten second stroll over to MAL proves you wrong. Use your resources instead of crying. It's not like you buy anything.
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Hentai is getting really shitty in general these days, I can't figure out for the life of me how come I like it more than real porn.
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>>4176123
>>4176123
>>4176126
I think that,even though it is deppresing, it is better AND well writed.
>>4176129
Even though the final part contradicts itself (one say to escape and other say that they will be separated) it is well ended to make us use headcannon, so... I take that they escaped together, I know that it may be selfish and more with the divorce thing, but I feel they never consider their feelings and that's should be enough for them to escape, I hope I am not the only one who feels this way
Very cute and sad story. Got an erection I am gonna admit but couldn't fap because the development of those two keep me intrigued to care to do anything but read
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Let's dump one more just for fun
http://exhentai.org/g/885440/962e5d6e1e/
Unknown Things by Shiranai Koto
22 pages plus credits
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>>4177413
Story's not much more than "it turns out a shy couple is in fact down to fuck," but it doesn't beggar disbelief too much. I like the anatomy/shading thereof, in particular.
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>>4176115
This entire manga just made me fall in love with this genre of hentai...
But...the rape...the tentacles??? Dick, y u like this?
Oh God. I'm.
A...
Normie ;-;
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>>4177422
We've got to Attack him,
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>>4177462
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Done, I think.
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At first I didn't realize OP was talking about animated hentai, not manga.
Whoops.
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>>4177070
^fucking this! Vanillafags love to bitch about why they don't get enough love/all this ntr wah wah wah, but BakeAne is prolly the best animation to come out in the past decade.
All hentai is shit, but you don't pay for it so why the fuck do you care?!
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>>4177552
>but BakeAne is prolly the best animation to come out in the past decade.
It never got a proper second episode and that probably won't change either. I heard its sales in Japan sucked, even though it's very popular among Western fans.
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Just finished watching Otome Dori. both episodes.
I feel dead inside.
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>>4180275
The Manga is even more cruel.
Doesn't change that all of them are retards, though. The MC could have easily made copies of the first DVD, taken it to the police and all of the rapists would have been anally fucked in prison. Instead he jerks off and does nothing. Or Otome or the sister could have went to the police themselves. Most NTR is downright retarded if you think about it for a moment.
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>>4169507
What the fuck do you expect? Who are the sort of people who buy hentai in the first place? Average teenagers with ideal romances in life or losers?
Fat lonely balding men are probably easier to self identify for buyers and they probably have that 40 hour cubicle job that provides them with enough money to buy more porn. Otaku may buy alot, but even I doubt vanilla is at the top of their sexual fetishes.
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>>4169686
The only hentai fetish that gets me off really is brother/sister romance stuff. Other than that, I'm into pretty much just vanilla. It would be nice if there were plenty of hentai that wasn't just "please fuck me oniichan" or whatever. Forbidden, loving, consensual sex is my thing maybe.
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>>4183020
bro/sis is vanilla as shit m8
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>>4169507
COMIC Koh is all you need for good ol vanillas
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>>4183029
You're mom is a whore
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>>4169635
It's faggots like you that make all the worst hacks in the world possible. Die you greasy faggot
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>>4176807
>my hips wont stop
god fucking damn it
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>>4169635
Personally I would really like some porn that's got good writing. Well-written porn is awesome.
I've had better luck with western stuff as far as that front goes though.
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>>4176042
I've got two comics that I've found that I think would be right up your alley.
The first is "The Rock Cocks" a comic about a couple who formed a band that are trying their hardest to make it big. Excellent artwork with full color and realistic dialogue.
The second one is "Never Mind the Gap" by forview. The comic has a near future sci-fi setting but it doesn't overshadow the solid characters. The comic is a bit sparse in its artstyle and there's only a few sex scenes but it is really solid.
-also, by the same guy there's the comic Cheer. Similar artstyle but this one is basically just one very long sex scene that has a FFM threesome. It's actually pretty well written and uses the setup more for its story potential than wish fulfillment.
I know it's likely you won't see this post but I hope at least someone gets enjoyment out of this quality smut.
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>>4176812
I really liked how, even though it was still "vanilla" they did something interesting with the story. You've just gotta be a little creative.
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>>4169658
God Ero Manga! was so bad it hurt. It felt like a knockoff of Eroge! complete with reused music.
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Vanilla is fine
But some time you need to mix it up
Add some carnal or chocolate sauce
Maybe some Sprinkles
Damn now I'm hungry brb gonna have a bowl of Ice cream
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Rape is fine if it's only one dude and he isn't the usual fatass middle aged man. Bonus points for training her to love his cock only and/or turning her into a doting waifu/love slave. Other than that, yeah, I am totally a vanilla guy.
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>>4183277
Sure but no rape ntr or guro
>Rape is fine
Nope
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>>4183295
Most of the "rape" in Hentai is just overcoming the woman being Tsundere anyway.
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>>4183249
I do appreciate the recommendations, thank you! I happened to check out Rock Cocks the other day and liked it a lot, will definitely check out the rest as well.
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>>4183216
Bear with it just a little longer
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i don't care how fucked up the plot is, as long as the mc is hot, i'm down to watch. i'm tired of seeing old, fat and ugly men fucking hot chicks. Kind of hard to flick the bean if the mc is fugly.
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>>4184762
You're welcome. Anyway I remembered another one.
This comic's called "The Cummoner." It's a fairly silly comic about a witch who gains magical power from sexual pleasure.
It's very funny and has some nice full color art. It does have one tentacle scene and occasionally gets a bit less than vanilla but it never gets very extreme.
One other good one I found was Chester 5000 XYZ.
The story's set in pseudo late 1800s. A brilliant inventor finds himself too tired from work to sexually please his wife so he creates a robot to tend to her when he can't. His wife begins to develop more feelings for the robot than mere lust though and drama ensues.
The comic is done without any dialogue but the story is quite clear without being too simplistic. It's really interesting and I should probably finish it.
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>>4184783
typical women...i want sex bots...
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>>4173632
This! A THOUSAND TIMES THIS! Gangbangs aren't in the least bit appealing to me because it's so gay. There's one girl and she's surrounded by 4-7 cocks, what's so appealing about watching some guys dicks almost touching
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>>4184971
That's because you're thinking too much about the males...
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>>4169701
what a fucking faggot this guy is
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>>4184971
>caring about dicks in porn
>caring about them touching
>caring at all
Homophobe confirmed. Somebody is not conformable with their sexuality
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>>4184783
You would be surprised at how common this sentiment is among guys as well. The norm of fat faceless males in messed up porn is pretty shit.
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>>4185082
>You don't like looking at dicks? What are, a faggot?
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>>4185100
>caring about dicks in porn
>caring about them touching
>caring at all
>proving my point
check and mate
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>>4169635
>one-dimensional
Kek
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>>4184971
I don't give a damn about the gay connotations at all, I'm just sick of this idiocy that a guy will turn sex into a team sport or some shit. Why the fuck would I invite anyone to share some pussy? I guess I'm just a greedy bastard, but I'm not passing that chick around like a fucking joint, even among the closest of bros. I know it's just pointing out the depths a chick has been driven to to becoming the sleaziest of objects, but damn, I just get annoyed at the sheer amount of lazy as shit gangbangs in hentai.
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>>4185271
Nice tumblr blog.
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>>4169507
Well tentacle is a long standing Japanese tradition, back in the day there used to be more tentacle than non tentacle because it was an easy way around censoring. I met Toshio maeda at a convention he's a super cool guy.
As for the rape/NTR I think that its a result along side the birth rate crisis over there that the men are frustrated at the women and are taking it our in art form
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>>4185337
I suggest we kill japanese government and put a trump in there, will fix it quickly
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>>4185331
>hating on polyamory
>tumblr
Son you wouldn't know a tumblr from a grindr
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>>4169507
You're retarded. There's plenty of great vanilla. Stop getting butthurt over other people's fetishes.
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>>4185349
>Not hating on polyamory
You are the cancer killing society if i had the right i would personally rape and murder all the scum out of existence.
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>>4185412
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Look okay polyamory is tumblr obviously while hating on polyamory is not-tumblr obviously and the joke is that gangbangs are being equated to polyamory in this tortured non-analogy okay, so therefore that prior post hating on gangbangs (which, as mentioned, is being equated to polyamory) is not tumblr and this is to the contrary of what that response claimed okay, it's not that hard to understand so laugh at the shitty non-joke already reeeeeee
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>>4185337
>As for the rape/NTR I think that its a result along side the birth rate crisis over there that the men are frustrated at the women and are taking it our in art form
That doesn't make sense. They only hurt themselves more that way. And it's always the same retarded shit in that genre.
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>>4185506
>birth rate crisis
Good the human race will die off and women will die as well it's a win win for us all. Men will get the last laugh. Modern women are trash.
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>>4185506
>Same retarded shit
Every genre is like that...
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>>4185574
>Good the human race will die off and women will die as well it's a win win for us all.
Not as long as Africans are fucking and propagate like rabbits.
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>>4185271
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>>4185589
It's always something...fuck you're right.
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