As much as i also can't stand NTR and it's cancer beaing smeared all over /h/ as the new *in* thing, and honestly it's as bad as those "Next picture happens to you, and you're the girl!" threads. Which by the way, i think those belong in the Yaoi section because it's the most homoerotic thing on /h/ rn that isn't really being enforced by the janitors.
Went of track saying what needed to be said, where was i? Oh, yes.
NTR exists to appeal to masochists, which seem to be a large part of the Hentai audience in Japan. Its entire purpose is to make you rage and make you feel like shit.
Some people like to see themselves as villains and enjoy it from the perspective of a sadist.
Others just want so see a girl turned into a cum dumpster. What always baffles me though is that the guy she left for dicks is often portrayed as the loser, while she is actually far worse off. He could just find another girl that isn't a whore, while she is doomed to bare bastard babies and soon die of STDs, drug abuse or just being fucked to death. That implication is never shown, though.
There is some good NTR or Netori where you sympathize with the one stealing the girl and he's actually a good guy that saves a woman from a dysfunctional relationship with a douchebag, but those are rare.
Have this gem: http://exhentai.org/g/119658/1dec1c2788/
Sucks that Pururin isn't around anymore with its Netori tag. I think Tsumino might have it.
1. Netorare loyal Basically the guy gets his lover the whole thing she needs.She is lovely and respectful but she gets raped. After she gets raped,there are some derivates;shall we say blackmailing her or threating her with something. After that,she proceds to have sex with them,she ends up liking it,say to his lover gtfo and that's all.
2.Netorare Kek Basically two terminologys for the same result(Kekoldy) The original Netorare Normally the guy is beta as fuck and he wants her lover to have sexual relationships with other men because he may find it arousing (Netoraserare),or he likes to see her partner pleased.
3.Netorare Humilliation Related to the first one,but only this one goes beyond the tag. They are works that shows Bondage and Sadist towards the girl who got stolen because she is a Masochist. They are even works that goes even more beyond that and go full-on with humilliation.To the point where she gets exposed for being a slut,her life gets ruined because of lust,and ends up on some dumpster because they either got tired of her,or she is no longer useful. She normally ends up on the streets,alone and forgotten.
4.Netorare Ocasional This one is the one i hate the most. Some vainilla action on the first chapters or episodes,then she randomly gets raped out of no where while her lover is watching it all. Then she recovers and vanilla again but fuck,it's just so unnecesary,it feels almost like a filler just to please the new fetish.
>This is just another "stop liking the things i dont like"
Actually it's not that.
I think people like OP (and myself) are simply ascertain why people are into this shit, and why they are.
Because honestly it's fucking weird if you actually apply some thought to it insstead of just going into an opinion with "Dood, fucking other peoples bitches is hawt."
Okay, granted. but what if the tables were turned? or worse yet said boyfriend you just held in a kekold and a group of his friends beat the shit out of you, tie you to a chair, and gangbang both the love of your life AND your mother in the same room and make you watch as they slowly mindbreak them.
It would make your penis flaccid wouldn't it? also
>Inb4 above plot is applied to a revenge counter-NTR hentai in 2016.
But with all that said, everyone who is into NTR never think of the possible consequences in those situations, i say this because of course they attempt to apply it in real life. (mind you, 95% of them fail at it miserably, but wish they can pull it off one day. thus adding to the additional fanbase of said fetish.)
Realistically to us vanillafags anyone who worships NTR as they usually do are usually just a bunch of pimplefaced fuccboi losers.
I just self insert as the guy stealing the girl. I'd hate for that to happen to anyone in rl especially to myself. My ex cheated on me and it was the worst thing ever. I just like to feel powerful in some way and that's how I do it. I like feeling dominant and in control and like I can do whatever I want and since I can't do it in rl I project myself into other people online in the form of NTR. I don't know if that makes sense, but that's how I rationalize it. I'd never act on it I just like my weird things like everyone else.
>>4128066 Also I never really get a lot of anger or anything out in rl and it's really hard to piss me off. I think I just bottle it up. I'm just not a mean person on hte outside. So every once in a while I want to be the villian. I want to be a total asshole. I want to be a douchebag and feel good about it.
>More and more harem series are showing up in which the protagonist is some clueless fucktard and the only reason half a dozen chicks are draping themselves over his dick is because of author wish fulfillment.
>People get mad when ntr doujins lay down the law.
Guys i have a question. The very first NTR Hentai i read killed something inside me....
But for some reason i cannot forget what i read. i forgot the name and cannot find it anymore.... please save my boner!
It was about a girl and a boy dating each other. the girl did not have "experience", so she asked some of her classmates (they basically sold her to an old, fat pervert, he bought all her virginities) after she was raped she got pregnant and had to prostitute herself for the abortion.
the interesting thing was: the boyfriend had premonitions. they would always eat boxed lunch when he had his Flashbacks(?).
when she was secretly pregnant she had peas(?) and than he imagined the scene of her being impregnated.
or she brought omlette and told him "they are not really done" he imagined that someone dumped his cum in the food while she was making it and forced her to serve it to him....
the horror in his face when he thought "its just my imagination" and ate it.... killed me... and her smile almost made me puke...
but please help me (sorry for my low english skills)
Its definitely an acquired taste and it really depends on the way the story pans out. Some NTR stories have light tones and end well and others....its just kinda hot that everyone is fucking the guys girlfriend except him. I will say that I absolutely HATED it to begin with, but the more I read the more I realized...this is actually really hot! Not to say that I like ALL of them, but about...half, maybe. I still definitely have some moral boundaries, like the girls being of a sound mind and not being raped/ extorted, etc. I guess part of it is a lack of empathy for the MC or something. Probably because most hentai is a one shot and you don't give a shit about the MC.
>>4125408 Why don't you stop complaining and ignore it for fucks sake. People never give others shit for liking other fetishes. But when someone says NTR everyone flips their shit and labels you a monster. Hentai allows to explore things we wouldn't bet able to in real life. Just don't go on hentai with NTR. Problem solved. Fucking moralfags.
There's plenty of fetishes that are bad. Why do you even care what people like? Everyone has their own reasons for liking a fetish. Leave them alone. I'd say loli is worse than NTR but I'm not gonna make a thread crying about it.
>>4125465 it¨s kinda the same point when it comes to the loli shit, the people think it makes you a monster. But is just a fetish, its ok just dont show your NTR shit to others and/or learn to respect the fetish of other people, we are in /H/ we are all brothers
>>4125398 >Love milfs, christmas cakes, mature girls >Tags: Netorare/cheating/netori/shota Every single motherfucking time, not to mention my favorite artists are a bunch of retarded c u c k s. I'd be ok with NTR if it weren't everywhere like a cancer, with the same brain farting stories and cliches like can't_get_enuf_of_dis_cock, mind_going_blank_sorry_darling
>>4129401 you do have a point that the mature ladies tend to be in netorare stories, and i definitely understand the complaint that all the stories are the same. But its pretty rare now that you get a dojin with an original idea or story. Netorare just tends to scrape the bottom of the barrel in the copy/paste writing cause its so popular right now
Problem for me is that i actually like netori, but there are always just pure ntr out there, i try to imagine being the netori in those but i just simply can't, i feel bad for the poor bastard and how's he humilliated.
>>4130173 >Problem for me is that i actually like netori, but there are always just pure ntr out there, i try to imagine being the netori in those but i just simply can't, i feel bad for the poor bastard and how's he humilliated. >I have too much bro pride for that shit. Sadly NTR is rarely a case of some complete douch having the girl stolen from him Its usually a loving innocent couple getting despoiled (typically the girl is raped into mindbreak too). That being said, the victims are often so hilariously retarded that you kinda feel they deserve it too for being so hilariously stupid
>>4130252 The reason why I like NTR is because shit is happening to the guy I hate so, of course I would like it. The guy that usually get NTR'D are generic and boring. They're slow at wanting to have sex. They're hesitant and whatnot. The h scenes for them are also boring and slow. So, when something breaks that, its a lot more interesting to watch. NTR and vanilla both has their tastes for me. If I want something sweet I watch just vanilla but if I want spice added, then its NTR. I don't relate myself to any the characters nor do I care about the guy getting NTR'd. It's nice to have variety.
i used to hate NTR, the first one i saw was so traumatizing >in that this boys single mom gets trapped by this old man and he rapes her, eventually she >becomes addicted to sex and stops coming home. when he finds about it online, he seldom >goes to check it out and then his mother finally realizes that her son knows about her secret, >then she leaves him alone making him an orphan and goes to live as a sex slave with that fat >guy. my eyes were moist. then again i saw few more NTR, every time something inside me died.
then i realized how to actually enjoy NTR, you have to VIEW it from the perspective of the Bad GUY. you will get your manliness back. now actually that is satisfying. PS: i know i am a sadist
>>4130290 The difference between netori and netorare is the focus they put, it's all the same when you realize that in netori you can always identify with the guy fucking the girl and the cucked guy is practically non-existant or is one of those generic faceless guys.
Netorare is way too focused on making the characters suffer as much as possible, the guy getting the girl is someone utterly evil or most of the time a faceless guy himself, where the guy getting cucked barely appears or when he does is just to throw the ntrbomb at him and make him suffer.
I don't know, i enjoy rape and the usual fetishes that ntr comes with like pet play or mindbreak as much as the next of kin, it's just that the exaggerate focus on making this guy who probably didn't even do anything wrong suffer as much as possible is way too overkill for me.
>>4130289 Yes for me it is a reason for me hating him. I like variety and NTR is a unique taste for me.
Stop thinking of it in such a realistic way. You sound like a fucking tumblrfag. You might as well go on about lolis and rape for fuck sakes. This is a fictional fantasy. Just let people fap to whatever they want. I already told you my reason so, fuck off.
>>4130293 Ok, then don't read them. Its as easy as that. Theres a reason why there are tags and how you are able to exclude tags you don't like. I never come across things I dislike because I actually know how to use exhentai's features.
>>4130338 I don't really have problems with these tags because there is hardly any real rape in Hentai to begin with. They maybe call it that way and it gets tagged as such, but most of the "rape" in Hentai is just the girls being Tsundere for a few pages until they admit they like it. You have some artists like Shiruka Bakaudon who show real hardcore rape, but they don't represent the majority of rape you see in Hentai.
Same thing for Loli. 90% of it is incredibly Vanilla.
NTR is just evil for the sake of being evil. There's hardly any justification for it happening and the focus on the guy being screwed is retarded in the first place when it's actually the girl whose life is ruined by being turned into a STD-ridden cumdumpster. On top of it, it's fucking everywhere like cancer. Even in many "normal" tanks artists throw a NTR story in there just for the sake of it.
I don't care what anyone's fetish is. More power to you long as you keep that line between fantasy & reality for some of those more nasty ones.
That said- personally, I don't need other people's pain as part of my wiring. If you're wired different... so you are. Interesting. That's not the point anyway.
I like to read hentai. What I'm saying specifically is I pretty much ignore untranslated work. It just makes questions for me. My brain likes the sexy words that double up the sexy art. That's my problem- you're probably better than me. So be it.
But NTR is rarely written well. I kid you not- most of it is so formulaic it'd be insulting to me as a fan if I liked it. Not all. Some manages to be clever-ish. Netori I think raises the bar for writing skill- but I digress. The point is NTR is pretty weak. Now, considering we're talking about hentain in general- that's not saying much- there's a lot of generic/sill/lame hentai. It's kinda part of the landscape, so why rag on NTR?
NTR: Challenge. Pick any NTR. Drop the first 1-3 pages- that was your protag setup. If the woman was married/loyal, add one more page, unless the NTR slept with her before. Drop the last page- that was your protag's heartbreak. Sometimes the author takes 2 pages. Once I saw 3. Some authors wedge phone call in the middle somewhere. The protag will not understand (because 'clueless' is needed for story) or will worry, but eventually turn cuckold/trust for no reason some crazy lie. What you have left is your standard blackmail/slut scenario- and usually not even a good version of those.
So, in reverse order. 1. Take a mediocre blackmail/slut scenario. 2. Bookend it between a wimpy protag being wimpy. 3. NTR gold ftw!
'True NTR' would have to address a relationship like it was real before crushing it. Hentai writers can barely grasp how most anatomy works- if someone wrote 'real' NTR I'd be happy to read it. I might not like it- but I'd appreciate the skill behind it.
Oh, so to answer the OP NTR always existed. Hell- it happens in the animal kingdom. That people (as an audience) like it so much is more the curiosity. For writers- it's awesome. People get emotionally affected like it was a skill, when it's simple trolling. Way better than actually trying to be deep/uplift. Anger/sadness is much easier to affect.
>>>>4131430 There will of course be exceptions- especially when a writer is actually being original- and there are more ways writers (in all genres shortcut and cliche), but I wasn't going to go into all of those, since NTR has so many using some variant of that one 'NTR for dummies' structure, it's easy to see! I'll be happy to check out your recommendations, though! Thanks for taking the time to link those. I like awesome, creative writers- so thanks in advance!
>>4131430 Actually, I remember both of those. 'King app'... I don't know if you can exactly call it NTR when magic/mind control is involved- in any case I always find these magical apps stories limited. No one gay/bi/futa(?)- whatever-- 'challenging'- gets an app as well & they have to 'duke it out' or something. I'd read that. It is interesting though. 'Takenoko Seijin'... is just too ridiculous for me, sorry. Everytime I see a 'student really runs the school (or gets away with everything)' plotline I roll my eyes. I'm not saying it can't be good- it just usually takes way more liberties with logic than just that one. I don't remember this one though I did read it before, but I think I was ok with it. I think they are both netori, but still. Either this one or there was another 'rescue girl from evil harem' hentai was done well enough- though I wonder about any guy who can't get if your gf's that casual about sex, then things can only go so well in the long run. but I might be thinking of the other story. Sorry. Those are more than the formula I listed- though that's because they are full tanks, but it is good to see a more complicated plot. Thanks!
>>4131437 Yeah, that's just your classic 'you trusted the wrong guy' NTR. Coupled with the mandatory 'Why did you think it could work?'. Other than being monster girls, and sneaking in some implied incest, it's not that bad.
>>4131470 >Either this one or there was another 'rescue girl from evil harem' hentai was done well enough- though I wonder about any guy who can't get if your gf's that casual about sex, then things can only go so well in the long run.
I think you meant "Don't let go of my Hand". Going Otome is Netorare in the end, just with some hope for the MC and reevaluation of his life instead of everything turning to shit
>>4131489 Not sure. I remember the MC was after a girl and (somethingsomething) ended up having to have sex with girls to have to put into a hidden yearbook or something- which later ends up being...well, 'spoilers'- but 'not good' we'll say. I couldn't find "Don't let go of my Hand", so if that sounds like it...
Maybe im in the minority but i like NTR because I like seeing a woman get broken. At the start of the story, she's civilized, sophisticated, and is in love with her boyfriend or a childhood friend.
And then something happens and she ends up getting raped or sleeps with another guy who's a complete douchebag. And slowly she starts to become corrupted by the other dude's dick which is typically bigger. And over time, she begins to long for his cock, but is conflicted and confused. How can she long for another man when she loves someone else? when society has taught her that sex is only good when it's with someone you love? Her mind is cognitive dissonance and eventually she gives to her carnal pleasures. And despite all her rationality, her love and values, her dignity, loyalty, and will, she eventually breaks and gives in to her animalistic nature because that's all she is. She's just a bitch in heat whose pussy has been filled and stretched out so good that she's lost all self-respect, any sense of morality, and humanity. Pleasure is her master, her god, and her meaning of life.
It's about wanting to see women in a weaker state than men because it's hot to see a woman is a broken state because of a man. It is empowering and probably misogynistic, but damn is it hot.
>>4131517 No, Going Otome was about the MC trying to win the love of his neighbor so he had to defeat in sex the other girls so when he and the president had sex with her and MC won the duel the neighbor was already trained so no matter how better MC was, the slut was already President's bitch, the part about her loving him and him suddenly loving her was just to safe face on his defeat thus the MC ranted about them being full of shit. And the vice-president was the only girl that wasn't totally trained so MC had still a chance with her at the end.
>>4131518 Yeah, Hebitsuka just wanted to destroy Yayoi's life and he did by breaking MC's mind. Still the whole blackmail is on the top list of the most retarded blackmail plots.
>>4131525 >And over time, she begins to long for his cock >over time Bullshit, in the first thrust and cum they are already broken. That's why many people bitch about it, because even for hentai logic, netorare goes even more stupid than what was allowed.
>>4131525 What does the guy who was with her before have to do with any of that? Everything you described have non-NTR setups. Actually rape/blackmail aren't needed for NTR- that's just easiest to do. Lazy writing makes NTR what it usually is. Stealing someone's woman with charm or whatever is something these guys don't have a clue about. They resort to old relationships or neighbor/delivery guy/coworker convenience as their best effort- and even then those guys are often douches. They do only have 24 pages to work in, so you can only ask so much- but 'Women being broken' in NTR is optional. Many are just sluts, too. Again- lazy writing (24 pages).
>>4131530 Most NTR is happens so quick 'love' is barely in the formula. Often sex hasn't even happened yet as well, so there's no 'comparing'. The mandatory 'loverboy is a bad lay' thing is too cliche as well. I see your point, I'm just saying that doesn't _have_ to be part of the NTR formula- though admittedly it often is. NTR is 'to take by sleeping with'- so any number of reasons that act broke the relationship are valid. 'no longer a virgin', 'can't trust anymore', 'you wouldn't do that for me in bed', 'he was my friend/enemy/boss'- whatever. it's just betrayal. There's more popularly put with it- like the guy meekly accepting- trying to work it out or even tolerating it out of desperation, but those aren't technically NTR.
>>4131548 Also don't pretend that vanilla isn't any less plausible or unrealistic as NTR. In fact vanilla is way more unrealistic than NTR. Hottest girl at school only has the hots for you? Orgasms at penetration? Cums from having her tits sucked? she falls in love with you because the main character came inside her 23434983 times?
>>4131525 >She's just a bitch in heat whose pussy has been filled and stretched out so good that she's lost all self-respect I can only enjoy that setup when orcs/devils/monsters/magic/Old-fat-Ugly dudes are involved, makes it feel truly degrading and hot.
Too bad a lot of the time is just this kind of generic NTR faggot with a shit-eating-grin which is an absolute boner killer.
Personally, I hate NTR. The genre makes me feel sick everytime I see it. That being said, I still end up reading a bunch of NTR, but not for the majority of reasons stated here. I'm in it for the creampies and impregnation. Love those. The great art is a plus too.
Sadly it's a popular genre so unless you're really looking for the right "thing" to fap to you'll wind up coming across it more often than not.
There's too many negative emotions in NTR for me to really get off, so I just read it in a foreign language I can't understand (like Japanese), and basically skip the opening to the part where sex is happening.
>>4131566 >>4131566 Neither of your examples are 'typical'. I grant that sexual incompetence is seldom illustrated in hentai. It is 'fiction' though- so allowing for a 'good example' isn't too unreasonable, though 'sex god' is pushing it for either example. NTR pushes it by needing _every_ protag to have minimal skill in bed (often despite being with _that_particular_woman_ (all woman do not 'turn on the same way'), little spine, less awareness- and often even _less_ self-esteem (that they do nothing about the situation). Sure, it's a bit unrealistic that a cherry boy can satisfy his girl in one go. it's less realistic that a practicing guy can't figure it out, etc- and a random asshole can stumble in and 'give her orgasms'. Hell- not all woman can even have orgasms, ans some are pretty particular about 'conditions'- but that's not 'these stories. Vanilla 'level ups' the protag. NTR 'level 0s' the protag, 'brain 0s' the target, 'level 99's' the 'experienced' thief, the 'self-respect 0s' the protag at the end.
This is one of the few NTR stories I could see the point of the NTR in. I think it would be a better story without (to me), but I'm ok with it being a good story as-is, despite not liking a chunk of it.
Aaan Megami-sama Hori Hiroaki http://exhentai.org/g/579998/4814563065/ http://g.e-hentai.org/g/609337/23495c74a8/ https://hitomi.la/galleries/569780.html
>>4131585 Yeah, this is from the same artist, great as well and has a justice ending. Same thing goes for Koukai Benjo: http://exhentai.org/g/574830/5990338202/ http://exhentai.org/g/560524/841787dab4/
Anyone know how to access the Netorare Zuma doujins by Linda Project on exhentai? They're under prohibited content, so I think somebody has to have the link somewhere to be able to save it. They're really fucking good.
>>4131784 Can't think of the title. Here's some to sort through. https://www.fakku.net/tags/netori http://www.hentaibox.net/tags/Netori Also, the one I was thinking of was bbw anyway & some don't like that. :)
>>4131799 Thanks. Too bad that not more site carries the netori tag, they all have a small collection compared to pururin. The justice part often happens at the end of a series but I think it would be pretty nice to observe the douchbad suffering.
>>4131803 Np. The one I 'mistakenly' listed does have netori- but only after netorare. I don't think I've seen but 1 'clean' 'douchbag suffering' hentai- without some ntr, or other badness- and even then I think it was undone the next issue.
>>4131811 Netori stories without netorare are invietable but for example like this series: [Takenoko Seijin] When you let go of my hands, of course there was justice but it happened way too late. It's fine iff you start off with netorare but quickly initate the netori afterwards.
Another one of this artist: [Sanagi Torajirou] Cast Aoi. As long as the victim (guy getting stolen) shows a little sign of a douchbaggy behaviour then it's fine for me to see him get NTRd.
>I think people like OP (and myself) are simply ascertain why people are into this shit, and why they are.
You don't have the fetish which is why you don't like it. You'll never understand people's reason and you'll counter their own reason as proven so far. People has given multiple reasons in this thread already and people has just been countering it with their own opinion. Its pointless.
>Okay, granted. but what if the tables were turned? or worse yet said boyfriend you just held in a kekold and a group of his friends beat the shit out of you, tie you to a chair, and gangbang both the love of your life AND your mother in the same room and make you watch as they slowly mindbreak them.
Why are you bringing real life to this? The thing is these are fictional characters. I don't give a shit about some dumbass generic character having his girl be stolen by some other guy that makes the sex more fun and entertaining.
>But with all that said, everyone who is into NTR never think of the possible consequences in those situations, i say this because of course they attempt to apply it in real life
Its fucking hentai. You want justice to be served in every fetish now? Theres fucking rape, loli, gangbang and a ton of other shit and you want people to think of the possible consequences? And how the fuck do you know if they attempt to apply it in real life. Says who?
>Realistically to us vanillafags anyone who worships NTR as they usually do are usually just a bunch of pimplefaced fuccboi losers.
No, you guys are fucking tumblrfags whos retarded. I really find it funny how the NTR stuff always have vanillafags commenting the most. Fuck off already.
Yes.Name-calling always proves why your butthurt is greater than anyone else's.
The OP just asked a question. An answer or attempt at one doesn't make anyone some random 'fag'.
If you don't like the question, give a better answer- that might help a little. Asking people to quit asking shows you don't get the internet, or even forums- and how they work.
You act like everyone should know why NTR 'works'- yet you use 'fag' as an insult- trashing someone else's 'fetish'- despite seemingly 'understanding' that each have their own fetish. That and your attack on 'vanillafags' seems a bit hypocritical if you don't mind my pointing out.
The helpful people have explained why NTR works for them. It may not 'convert' anyone, but it explains.
>>4132085 >Yes.Name-calling always proves why your butthurt is greater than anyone else's.
Yes, because people here clearly aren't insulting NTR fans at all nor are they insulting the genre. Playing the victim card now I see. Its clear you guys are tumblrfags. Tumblr might be a better place for you guys after all.
>>4132147 In general. Guro has around 1000 galleries for Doujinshi and Manga on sadpanda, scat around 4000 (that includes Manga with only one or two pages of it, so it should actually be more like half of that), NTR has 10k, just as much as popular tags like femdom.
>>4132168 Because everything by her is retarded and formulaic. The only good thing is her art, which is wasted on mindnumbing stories that boil down to >"Your son stole some panties! Be my sex slave or I will tell everyone!" >"Okay." >Ten pages later: "Now I'm a sow which only exists to get fucked."
>>4131418 >But NTR is rarely written well. I kid you not- most of it is so formulaic it'd be insulting to me as a fan if I liked it. You accidentally said NTR instead of all hentai. Hentai, in general, is incredibly badly written, incredibly formulaic, and insulting.
>'True NTR' would have to address a relationship like it was real before crushing it. Hentai writers can barely grasp how most anatomy works- if someone wrote 'real' NTR I'd be happy to read it. I might not like it- but I'd appreciate the skill behind it. Sadly true and I share your sentiment.
>>4129389 >Why NTR is always redeemed bad Because its easy to hate NTR >Shit cliches >People hate both the kekker and the kekked >Yes, the kekked is usually shitty guy and the kekker is always an asshole or some sort of it >Is an aspect of rape >Playing with emotion Its easy to hate NTR, there is just too many reason to hate it.
>>4132172 For once I would for it to go >"Your son stole some panties! Be my sex slave or I will tell everyone!" >*She tasers the asshole and calls the cops* >He son does some community service, the would be rapist goes to jail and gets assraped. >would be rapist is mindbroken from being prison raped
>>4132231 That wouldn't be good NTR and wouldn't satisfy NTR fans. NTR is made for people with a NTR fetish. Why can't you understand that? Instead of hoping for a good ending. A smart choice would be to avoid it all together and read only happy hentai.
What exactly counts as NTR? Just straight up cheating, the guy finding out, the girl not caring, the girl starting to enjoy the rape, all of the above?
I'm not a fan of the darker NTR stuff, but Nightmare of My Goddess is pretty hot as Belldandy slowly and steadily adjusts to her new fate. Only in the second most recent volume did Keiichi find out she had been getting gang raped non-stop.
>>4132231 I had a smilar idea for realistic NTR / Rape once: >MC and his girlfriend get introduced as a couple that have a healthy amount of sex and who are in love with each other. >NTR guy / Rapist drugs her while she is on her own and drags her into a nearby rest room, where he rapes her in her sleep and takes pictures / videos of him fucking her. >She wakes up in the middle of it and he threats her to stay silent if she doesn't want the pictures to get leaked. >Girl doesn't fall for any of that shit and screams "Rape!" instead. >Her boyfriend and some other guys hear that, burst into the rest room and beat the shit out of him. They also take his cell phone with the pictures as evidence for rape provided by the culprit himself. >He gets charged and sentenced for 10+years in prison, where he shares a cell with another rapist, who immediately proceeds to fuck him in the ass once they are alone. >His screams for help are unheard, as the walls are soundproof, and even if they weren't people wouldn't care either way. >Meanwhile, it's shown that the girl immediately took a morning-after pill after being raped like an intelligent human being and she has lots of sex with her boyfriend again. >The End.
>>4132246 I actually would enjoy something like that. Or >housewife gets blackmailed, raped or whatever >double V ahegao multiple times >gets bored of her meat toy >guy ends up eating shit like no other >girl goes back and has lots of sex with her husband out of guilt. BAM! best netori.
I'm not into NTR plots, and NTR stories where the other guy is sitting in the room with his tiny cock alone just make me wat. However, NTR has a lot of glorious big dick porn and girls that really like them, so I approve.
>>4132968 Why is it disappointing? It's the same level of good art,but retarded plot like every other time. The only difference is that the protagonist is an asshole that gets revenge on the women themselves instead of NTRing someone. And he sells his children, but that's his own choice.
>>4132979 I felt something similar to NTR happening to me once as well. It's very complicated and personal, so I don't want to share details. That's probably one of the reasons why I hate NTR so much.
So, for the past two weeks, I've been trying to read netorare hentai to see if it arouses me in the slightest. I have a history of pleasing myself to some rather intense shit: scat, guro, loli, shota, mpreg, vore, the entire spectrum of /d/. I can enjoy these things as much as I enjoy hand-holding vanilla, I'm one sick fuck and I'm not even ashamed anymore, and yet, netorare fails to get me aroused. I tried different kinds of manga, doujins and image sets - at best I liked a frame or two, but my body stayed unresponsive, as if my brain was not registering it as sex. I'm open to all kinds of fetishes and I don't judge people who get off to different stuff, but I think I'm doing something wrong here. Is it because I haven't found the true netorare gem yet? Is it just not my thing, even though literally everything else (aside from rape and hypnosis, for some reason) is? It's not like I don't feel empathy towards the characters - I feel sorry for the guy, and for the girl if she's being forced into it. But that's it. No arousal, only "well these people sure are suffering, sucks to be them". and this comes from a person who frequents gurochan. What the hell is wrong with me, /h/?
>>4133045 It's not your fetish. Just because you like other seemingly related/similarly 'disapproved' fetishes doesn't mean you have to like this one 'too'. That's a pretty random-looking list to me, so 'be happy you checked off that many' I guess? :)
>>4133062 Right. Being a wimp and getting a girl is way more nonsensical than being an an asshole, usually a rapist, often ugly, _still_ getting/keeping the girl despite being (and this is the kicker) so 'wimpy' they never tried to approach the girl on their own- and had to go behind a 'wimps' back and use tricks/force. It's not revenge, it's just more nonsense. If it makes you happy- more power to ya, though.
>>4132889 I LIKE normal, non-aggressive, unambitious protagonists. There are way too many hotheaded protags, asshole protags, "I want to get stronger" protags and so on. It's far more realistic when a protagonist who's thrust into awkward, confusing, serious or dangerous situations to be flustered, confused, or even scared. It makes perfect sense for some normal dude to not want to go along with some crazy dangerous or outright idiotic scheme or be involved in some stupidly confusing plot they have nothing to do with
>>4133140 What are you talking about? I hope I'm talking about hentai- it would suck to be talking about NTR being 'ok' or whatever otherwise. I was responding, so maybe you should trace the thread back?
>>4133145 OP asked why people liked NTR. The anon gave his own reason and for some reason, you started going on about it in a realistic way when its clearly just fictional stuff. When people fap to rape. They don't think how its soo fucked up and how the rapist deserve punishment. We just fucking fap because its hot. Its a fantasy world.
>>4133150 You're reading too much into it. the 'realism' wasn't brought up by me- I just stated that particular comparison didn't really add up. I don't care about 'realism' persay- though within the context of whatever 'fictional' world, sticking to whatever 'realism' you made for that world does make for a better story. People pretend 'relationships' and 'reactions' aren't 'realism' in a lot of these genres. The author just makes whatever the story 'demands' happen. Sure, fine- but if every NTR protagonist ends up conveniently 'rolling over', that's 'convenient', not 'realistic'. I'm not demanding realism- just saying a better story would resolve with more believable conflict. Blackmail the protag too, buy him through conditional promotions- or something. Some writers bother. Most don't. Whatever. My point was just 'vanilla is more unrealistic' isn't accurate. Some vanilla authors are rubbish. Most NTR authors take shortcuts too. Whatever. Anyway, some people do think those things. Maybe not you. Not my point either way. The OP asked about NTR- 'because it is hot' is obvious, not an answer. _Why_ it's hot is debatable I guess, but there are people who think 'bad art' is not hot (despite the story) or 'bad stories' are not hot (despite the art). Not saying either is better- but 'there ya go'. Different people do have different ways in deciding both 'What is hot' & 'What is bad'. 'Lack of realism' to some is 'bad'. Maybe not you. I'm ok with that. Like what you like.
>>4133281 No prob. It's not like anyone here is a 'spokesperson' for whatever fetish. People can like the same thing for different reasons. I can empathize with you though- the only thing thet ruins a mature busty woman more than NTR (if you don't like it) is futanari (unless you like that)- but that's another thread entirely...
This thread is unironically trying to explain WHY people like NTR(netori,netorase,netorare,what evs). Anybody actually trying to debate why NTR is bad is a fool. Different strokes for different folks, mate.
Btw are you guys simply jealous that we have some artists with top quality drawings or why do you single out ntr out of all to ridicule?
>>4133574 when you get horny, you produce more semen. if you see someone fucking a chick, even if it's one you like, you get more horny and produce even more semen, so the origin of NTR stuff might come from postcopulatory sexual selection. that means cucks have bigger chances of passing on genes. think about it.
>>4133570 Wow, you sure told me. I'm not sure though if by saying 'eat a dick', you think you're punishing me, or giving me a bonus- you know, since you like futa and all... In any case, since I said (unless you like that)- so if your brain can't wrap around 'like what you like', then too bad for you, 'Insulty McDickEaty'.
>The NTR guy won't try anything funny after being released from prison 10 years after as he is under police surveillance and was mindbroken by his rapist. >In fact, Hentai Logic applied in this case: The other rapist fucked him so much that he fell in love with him (as did the guy fucking him) and they have a new life outside of prison, trying to repent by working part time in a kindergarten. >The couple from before married and had a little girl in the mean time. >We see them fucking again, trying to get the woman knocked up again. >Their first child got old enough to go to kindergarten, which is coincidentally the same one the former NTR guy and the other rapist work at. >They are very cautious of them and want to get away ASAP, but the gay couple convinced them that they feel very sorry for what they did in their life and that they want to repent. >The NTR guy also tells them that he just wanted to be loved, which he got with his new partner now. >Both couples get friendly with each other and go on double dates. >Eventually the woman delivers her second child and the NTR guy is allowed to hold her baby. He's crying of happiness and decides to adopt a child with his lover. >The End
More Drama than Hentai, but I want to see something fresh.
>>4133959 Why don't you make your own hentai and create something fresh? The Japanese artists are making their work for their own fans.So, nothing will change unless their Japanese fans tell them something. They could care less about your opinion.
I just know I've always liked this shit ever since I was very young, even before knowing about anime. I've always self inserted as the most powerful male character in the story's triangle (square or whatever) though, regardless of the role that character might have. The fact this character is almost always portraited as the sadist/affair/antagonist is just a meaningless side effect to me and I don't really care about his alignment unless he is actually going too god damn overboard on the evil side, like those from Kawady Max for instance
To me, whenever I see a guy who can't help but feel miserable, impotent, numb, fearful and unable to act or react against whatever problems (in this case, romantic ones) life throws at him, than he is not deserving of any compassion by me. I've seen dwarfs without limbs having more willpower than most of the spineless bastards on these drawings
I wouldn't like it irl, but in fantasy it's fucking great.
You've had thoughts like that, when you were somewhere high with a friend, you thought "what if I pushed him down from here?" "What if I just stabbed her here?" "What if I just jumped off this bridge?"
If you never had a thought like that, then you're not a functional human being with emotions.
You enjoy horror movies and you think the story gets better if a character actually dies. Why wouldn't you enjoy NTR?
Fantasy has a very important role in human psychology. Come back when you understand it's role better.
>>4125398 Because someone wanted tragedy to be mixed with porn instead of comedy or romance. That's all it is in the end; the tragic tearjerker ending that the Japanese tack on to a lot of shit. Everyone's a miserable fucktard and the sex isn't even to feel good, it's just a tool of conveying misery and sadness.
NTR exists because humans can't stand the same thing over and over, imagine, you read a fuckton of vanilla qhere everything is just hapiness and rose petals, after some time it becomes stale and even annoying, this is why you add other things to the mix to make it interesting again, cheating and whatnot but then that also becomes stale so you add stronger and stronger and stronger things til you end in what we are for now where NTR is the trend of the moment, now 3 things can happen in some months or even years, 1.NTR becomes stale and we move back to the less hurtful things, 2. NTR becomes stale and we move to more fucked up shit, 3 NTR keeps still some fresh motion and we keep it for a while more
what gets me hard immediately is seeing any woman go crazy from pleasure - most of the time, NTR is the best medium for this because if the girl gets NTR'd, in hentai its always by carnivorous sex of life
i think back when pururin was up, it was kinda like "happy-sex"? it don't hafta be NTR, but vanilla tends to be too soft
>>4149802 I don't care about the fictional supposed bf other than them being a necessary narrative device. If you have to go deep about it her supposed gf loves sex so much she is not anyone's gf, and her bf can be anyone with a big cock.
This is what is was invented for! I think! Then your hate boner turns into a hate softy, you cry because you can't get it up, and ask yourself deep meaningful questions like "How can a cartoon cuck me so?"
>>4150693 I could have sworn I just read something like that. Everyone seems to knows each other feelings. The guy who did the ntr does it because it's the only way to further advance the relationship of the girl and her crush. And the guy later was crying out of guilt on the bus when leaving the girl and her crush. Was mumbling something like he can't return to that place anymore after what he did.
That sounds good. See, I prefer more realistic emotional stuff like that, if there's going to be hurtful bits thrown in. It doesn't have to be mean spirited. Do let us know if you find the doujin you're talking about though!
>>4150741 That was in NTR Ai from Ryuga Sin. It's not translated.
>>4150693 This: http://exhentai.org/g/654695/2c5230696b/ MC's girlfriend gets off on being cucked and makes him have sex with other girls while she watches and has sex with him afterwards.
He doesn't leave her in any ending though and most of them are threesomes or foursomes with the girls they decided he would sleep with. It's like Netoraserare, but with switched gender roles and not being dark or depressing.
I like it because it's happened to me multiple times in real life. I am very personable and have no trouble attracting girls, but I have a psychological dysfunction where I can almost never follow through with sex the first several attempts. So usually what happens is the girl gets angry with me or considers me a giant loser, and so fucks someone behind my back and blows up the relationship before I get to the successful sex part.
So I like netorare because I've given up even trying anymore, and it lets me re-experience the confluence of emotional suffering and physical sexual desire so I at least can remember what it felt like to have felt anything because now I'm mostly dead inside.
In conclusion, netorare is a genre of many contrasts.
>>4151787 So my favorite is the ones where the girl is good but the guy is just a shlub and just not good enough for her. A better guy comes along and she just can't resist so she dumps the other one and he cries a lot. It's pretty accurate.
>>4125496 not sure if it fits into one of these categories if any.
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