>windows still doesn't have a package manager or a native

>>52978154
do you hear that?
it's the sound of all of the windows shills and fandboys that infest this board running as fast as they can to this thread to defend their OS from an accusation they probably don't even understand

>apps

wasn't windows 10 supposed to have oneget? whatever happened to that?

>>52978198

Yeah, get with the times old man.

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>apps

At least we have apps lmao

>>52978198
Yes, Windows uses Apps.

>>52978198
>>52978218
>>52978221
Fuck off

"Application" have been shortened to "app" since before you little faggots were born.

>>52978221
>apps
not even reddit can handle this shit
>>>/facebook/

>>52978236
>>52978239
App = Application = Program
Consider suicide.

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>>52978236

>>52978236
I'm 33. I clearly remember a time when.... actually you're right I've got 20 year old CDRs with labels like "apps & games".

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>all these pedants getting upset over semantics

app = program = application

>>52978345
Lets leave 'app' to phone fags.

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>>52978343
>Still browsing chans at 33 age
That automatically positions you in the "I failed at life" category.
Consider suicide

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>>52978154
>over 20 years
>linux is STILL <2% market share

XXAXXAAXAX ELEEELELLEELL

>>52978413
only on desktops
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Market_share_by_category

>>52978411
I'm turning 30 this year.

moot is only 1.5 year younger than me and hiroshima nagasaki is 10 years older than me.

So would i be correct in saying that OneGet is technically not a package manager, but can be used to install and manage a third party package manager, such as Chocolatey, as windows does not yet have a package manager to be used with OneGet?

>>52978436
now include all of the active directory and ldap controllers and see how that looks.

web servers and.... the small total amount of supercomputers, and thats it. literally everything else is windows

>>52978540
you forgot embedded devices, routers and single-board computers.

>>52978436
Who gives a shit what your server is running? Computers are all about desktops and notebooks for most users.

>>52978683
actually computers are about tablets and smartphones for most people.

>>52978411
Us 30 year olds are the only ones posting relevant comments and not inane consumerist bullshit.

Show the proper respect to your elders keeping the community together.

Fag.

>>52978411
bro, you only succeed at life by producing viable offspring. you are still able to do this in your 40s and then some

>>52978154
>a native way to update apps
It's had one since Windows 8. Whether you like it or not is a different story.

>>52978715
No, computers are still laptops and desktops. Mobile devices are tablets and smartphones.

>>52978413
linux has:
like 97% of supercomputers
most cell phones
most tablets
most web servers

i could go on..

>apps

aside from that, ever heard of .msi?

>>52978540
>>52978572
also forgot phones and tablets, which outnumber desktops and is how most people do their computing these days

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>>52978833

Installing software on Windows:
>search internet for msi package
>msiexec.exe /i package.msi
>enjoy your new software

Installing software on Linux
>search package manager repo
>default repos don't contain the packge I want
>spend all day fucking around with unmaintained repos
>finally find one that works
>dependency is in another repo, no indication of which one
>slit your wrists

>>52978833
yeah and you choose to use a shitty insecure closed-source operating system on your desktop. congratulations, youre retarded

>>52978154
You have never heard of cocolatey???

>>52978715
>>52978923
>ask randoms if you can see their computer
literally 0% would show you their phone

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>>52978154
>windows still doesn't have a package manager or a native way to update apps

What is the Windows Store?

>>52978933
>implying
debian has got 43000 packages in the default repo, i only ever needed to install something manually once. installing it was less of a hassle than on windows.
>>52978984
>moving goalposts

Guize pls.
I dual boot so both camps can trust my impartial conclusions.
Windows sucks.
Linux rocks.
There you have it.

>>52978935

in the real world outside your mother's basement, the software people need to get work done often only runs on closed source operating systems.

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>>52978964
See
>>>52978154

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>>52978154
It still doesn't have tabs in file manager? How cool is that?

>>52978933
Installing software on Windows:
>search internet for exe files
>go to random websites to download random exes
>totally not a security risk
>download exe
>get new toolbars, desktop icons, and menu entries
>get reminded to upgrade to pro version constantly
>enjoy your shit software
>stupid software didnt include an uninstaller

Installing software on Linux
>search package manager repo
>everything i could ever want is in the repo
>install

>>52979019
same here, booting windows is like eating shit from your own hands

>>52978154
>package manager
>apps

>>52978154
>Windows Update
It was cancerous. Auto-updates tend to break systems especially on loonix with their millionaires of incompatibilities and teenaged "devs".
>Apps
>>52978236

They were called programs back in the day

>>52978411
Call me back when you survive your edginess, 12 year old.

>>52979036
>the software people need to get work done often only runs on closed source operating systems.

that doesnt mean the operating system isnt garbage. you can admit the operating system is garbage. the vendors could EASILY port their software to Linux but they literally get paid not to by microsoft cuz they know they have a dying shitty OS and fraud is the only way they can compete

Apps has been the shortened version of application since the 80s and probably even earlier.

Why are idiots getting upset about this terminology now?

>>52979062
i bet youre going to tell me windows doesnt have work-spaces too arent you...

>>52979146
well they got help from ubangofags but the workspaces on windows are still shit.

>>52978154
package manager, for windoze hahah what for to have circular dependencies like loonix has?

>>52979139
Because we had programs, applications, applets, executables

Now we have apps

>>52979194
a kernel doesn't have dependencies

>>52979146
Workspaces is bullshit but tabbing is musthave, it's just basic stuff m8.

>>52979216
kinda does

>>52979069

That's all easily avoidable if you have a little bit of common sense. Just like you wouldn't add a third party repo without checking it out first right?

>everything i could ever want is in the repo
I guess I'm just not satisfied with unpolished shit hacked together by volunteers.

apps were on winblows since the dawn of the internet, kids dunno shit anymore

>>52978964

Chocolatey is shit.

Anyone can add anything to the public repo, there's no verification
No local repo option
Not updated regularly
No way to script it

Microsoft Windows™ has a package manager you retarded dumb motherfucker. It’s called Windows Store™ and it’s the finest, most professional looking package manager ever. Nothing to compare to the fucking nonfunctional Portage coded by a fat basement dweller.

>>52979017
>43000

A high number of useless packages are still useless.

as if package manager is fucking advantage, top kek you fucking retards ... there are different packages for every gazillion linux distro and distro version out there, true library and dependency hell

>>52979223
tabbing is not very useful for anything other than web browsers. file managers should be dual pane. work-spaces are fucking required.

>>52979069
There you have it, linux users are too stupid for windows, on par with your grandparents in terms of computer literacy.

>>52979105
That's why they call it app-get.

>>52979069
>>get reminded to upgrade to pro version constantly

He'll compile his kernel from source, but taking 10 seconds to disable auto update in adobe reader is too much of an imposition.

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>>52979312
OMFG!

>>52979284
Enjoy your fraud.

www.zdnet.com/article/the-microsoft-store-a-wretched-hive-of-scams-and-fake-apps/

>>52979242
>I guess I'm just not satisfied with unpolished shit hacked together by volunteers.

yes cheap indian corporate slave labor clearly produces the most polished software

>>52979309

>I don't use it and anyone who wants it offends my sophisticated tastes.

>>52979284
>store
hahahhaha oh wow
do you guys have ads in your fucking start menu too?

>>52979242
>Linux users
>common sense

>>52979309
Looks like you never have used a proper FM.

>>52979312
>>52979327
>MAXIMUM DAMAGE CONTROL

>>52979363
says the windows user who probably failed at installing ubuntu because he didn't know what it meant when it asked how he wanted the drive to be partitioned

>>52979366
I do use tabs in my FM, but not nearly as much as I use dual panes

>tfw

cinst -y app

>tfw literally the best of both worlds.

>>52979345
>yes cheap indian corporate slave labor clearly produces the most polished software

I'll take that over basement dwelling neckbeards that get a sweaty hard on every time they tell someone to RTFM.

Developers that are paid for their time make things that work.

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DAILY REMINDER:

WINDOWS STILL CAN'T OPEN TABS ON EXPLORER

>>52979465
t. windows users who got told to read the wiki when trying to install arch

this is too perfect kek

>>52979414

>failed at installing ubuntu

The isntall went fine but I got a black screen after I logged on because the open source nvidia driver doesn't support anything that came out in this decade.

>>52978182
Very, very relevant for this thread.

>>52979465
>Developers that are paid for their time make things that work.

THIS IS SO WRONG AND RETARDED IN MANY WAYS

APPLY KILL TO SELF, PLEASE

>>52979526
Not really. It's just butthurt linux users false flagging and triggering each other.

>>52979504

>windows users who got told to read the wiki when trying to install arch

That implies the wiki is up to date

If these autists would actually document their work I wouldn't be asking questions on IRC.

>>52979521
>nouveau
hilarious how you didn't even think to try the closed source driver
how typical

>>52979581
>try the closed source driver
Might as well be using Windows then.

>>52979465
except a large portion (most?) linux software is produced by paid developers. canonical, ibm, redhat, intel etc. all make linux software

>>52979242
>>52979465
>>52979363
>>52979312
>>52979327
t. gaymers, consumerists & scriptkiddies

>>52979539

>I have no response to his argument. I'll tell him to kill himself.

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>>52979465
>volunteers
>>52979242
>basement dwelling neckbeards
OK retard

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>>52979601
you can't possibly be serious
you really believe the main reason to use linux is open source drivers?

>>52979581

>hilarious how you didn't even think to try the closed source driver how typical

I shouldn't have to. If it provides the best experience, it should be there by default. Having to replace all the drivers after install makes me wonder what other bullshit I'm going to have to deal with to get a fully functional system, which Windows provides by default.

>>52979661
>all the drivers

>>52979623

Those companies all use Linux on the back end. None of those contributions benefit using it on a desktop or a laptop.

>>52979661
>I need my OS to do literally everything for me!
You really are a true Windows user.

>>52979676

Video card, wifi, power management and sometimes network cards if they require proprietary (gasp!) firmware blobs.

>>52979718

>>I need my OS to do literally everything for me!

Says the Linux user who gets all buttflustered any time the default configuration of Windows Update is mentioned

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>/g/ - Technology

>>52979647
>reason to use linux isn't the freedom

What the fuck else would it be?

>>52979731
the only thing out of that list that commonly requires proprietary drivers for better performance is the video card

>>52979788
>default
more like mandatory

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>>52979789

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Linux users. The atheists of computing. They just can't bear the thought that someone else might be doing something that works for them.

Hey freetards, how are those wifi drivers? OH WAIT!

>>52978154

>I can't afford a working operating system

>>52979972
i never had a laptop with wifi issues, is this meme based on a fact?

>>52980027

I did. Broadcom both times. Everything else worked out of the box.

>>52980027

If you don't own one of the two wifi chipsets the volunteers have actually taken time to write drivers for, then yes.

>>52980066
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Broadcom_wireless
seems to be a non-issue since 2008

>>52980066
>Broadcom

This is 100% bullshit. I've always had to manually install Broadcom wireless drivers.

>>52980100

Could be right. Last time I tried installing one was in 2006. I sold that piece of shit.

>>52978182
No all I hear is fucking hipsters autists and Linux shills....that's LITERALLY all that's on /g/ anymore

>>52980104

lrn2read

>>52980137
IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY IF YOU FUCKING /V/ IDIOTS AND WINDOWS SHILLS DIDN'T DESTROY THIS BOARD

THIS
IS
YOUR
FAULT

>>52980137

>linux shills
>that's all thats on /g/ anymore

Go back to /v/. The only people who use M$ products are casuals and gamers.

>>52980208
>The only people who use M$ products are casuals and gamers.

Every corporate sysadmin disagrees with you.

>>52980193
Well you're proving you're retarded....I don't even go on /v/ you dumbass...now piss off back to mommies basement on your POS ThinkPad running lubuntu or whatever the latest Linux fad is....you're all fucking sheep on this board and it's FUCKING HILARIOUS ending threads by simply asking people to post their sources...for some reason none of you on /g/ or /b/ OR ANYWHERE ON THE FUCKING INTERNET CAN POST A GOD DAMN SOURCE FOR THE BULLSHIT YOU'RE SPEWING

Mfw all the Linux babbis have to dual boot windows in our EEE classes because they need to use industry standard software and not a filthy neckbeards weekend project to complete work.

>>52980208
The FUCK are you even talking about? I don't go on /v/...guess you morons got your information wrong again...next time post a source first so you're not just spewing bullshit

>>52980208
Got that backwards...the only people who spread Linux are tinfoil hat wearing autistic hipsters that jack off to kiddie porn and hide behind seven proxies to keep it secret

>>52979968
you got trolled into posting a 9gag meme

that's embarrassing my man

>>52979661
>Windows provides by default
>I have never built my own machine

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>>52979661
>Windows provides by default

>>52980337

Except I do build my own computers. Every time I install Windows it boots to the desktop on the first try without any hassle. The default generic video card driver doesn't cause the computer to become unusable.

Your arguments against Windows are based on problems that have been solved since the 90's.

>>52979846
Spotted the autist that can't see past windows 10

>>52980258
>>52980287
It doesn't matter that you don't go on /v/ you fucking dumbass.
The fucking gaymer idiots here that need Windows to play games are still a large fucking part of what ruiined this board.

You're fucking delusional if you actually believe there is more Linux shilling than Windows shilling on this board.

>>52980423
That's because this board is absolutely fucking infested with Linux shills and if you call them out on it all they can say is "GO BACK TO /V/ YOU FILTHY CASUAL!" only further proving my point that everyone on this board is autistic

>>52978411
Browsing 4chan, at any stage of your life, positions you int the "I failed at life" category.

>>52980399

Show me one configuration where Windows doesn't boot the the desktop on the first try without having to boot up on rescue media to replace a driver.

>>52978988
Spyware

>>52980458
Then why is it at any given time I can find 4 times as many Linux threads as there are windows threads? Also you still aren't posting sources so all I hear from you is "blah blah blah I'm spewing bullshit that nobody can disprove blah bitty blah blah"

>>52979661

Windows doesn't come with nVidia/AMD drivers by default. It comes with generic drivers.

>>52980423
I built a big ol computer last year with a 760, put even Debian on it.
Worked out of the box.
What card did you have that didn't work?

>>52980463
Everyone except for me*

>>52980434
Spotted the retard who thinks W10 isn't the main subject here and who also thinks the worst part of W10 hasn't been spread to earlier versions.

All this thread is underage Windows idiots against underage hacker wannabes Linux users. Fighting over which OS/distro is better is the most pointless endevour ever.

And this is why this board is nothing but awful threads, one after another.

>>52980511
Honestly I wonder whether or not you're real because you're not one of the typical sheep I see swarming this board daily

>>52980521
If windows 10 is the main subject why isn't it stated in the original post? There is a LOT more than just windows 10 so take the blinders off and see the world like a non shill for once....and still NONE of you fucking Linux faggots can post a source for your information

>>52980463
>proving my point that everyone on this board is autistic
Then fuck off!
Nobody wants your fucking retarded ass here and you clearly don't want to be here either.

>>52980500

Exactly but the generic drivers don't yield an unusable state after install.

>>52980493

I work for an MSP. I ran into an AMD APU last week that wouldn't show me anything.

Sold her a 10 dollar GT610.

>>52980566
Actually I enjoy making you Linux sheep squirm by demanding a source for your made up outrageous claims

>>52980503

I have a 750. I tried three distros including Debian and I got a black screen after login. I'm supposed to convince friends and colleagues to put up with this shit?

>>52980585
>windows still doesn't have a package manager
How is anyone supposed to provide a source for this?

>>52980572
>AMD APU

AMD is the Linux of hardware. It was probably defective.

>>52980590
All I can offer is that it works on my machine. I don't know why it worked for me and didn't for you.

>>52980608
How is someone supposed to disprove it? THE FUCK IS THE POINT ABOUT CONSTANTLY BITCHING ABOUT WINDOWS? WHO DOES IT HELP? YOU LINUX FAGS ARE JUST MAKING YOURSELF SEEM MORE AND MORE LIKE HIPSTERS

>>52980570

The last time I had any problems regarding GPU drivers was back when nVidia Optimus was a thing.

nVidia wouldn't code decent drivers or give anyone access to proper documentation. That's on them, not on the linux devs.

Other than that I can't remember the last time I had any problems.

>>52980208

literally 90% of the world's computing population.

>It's the world that's wrong, not I!

>>52978205
Last I heard it was gonna be pushed out with those big privacy protection updates. Aka probably never.

>>52980629
>How is someone supposed to disprove it?
By proving the opposite: Windows does have a package manager. If it does, provide a link to information about it which proves it exists and Windows has it.

>>52980649

Microsoft cheated and corporations man

>>52980692
You mean the app store? Which is exactly what you're ignoring in all the posts above this one? Because that was only added because of you Linux fags bitching about not having a package manager...but most windows programs don't need 72 updates a fucking week to function properly

>>52980692
Oh so you can't provide a link to say it doesn't have one but I have to provide a link saying it does? Fucking hypocrite

>>52980715

Yay zerodays!

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>>>52978411
> producing viable offspring

What the fuck who the moment you get chlildren your life is over.
It's 2016 how are you still following ancient norms when the only reason to live, is to satisfy your own needs, which children clearly inhibit?

>52978411

>>52980739

>>52980736
Yay big words I can spew without proving I know them or know what the shit I'm talking about!

>>52980649

Think of the options we would have today if IBM would have pulled their heads out of their asses and started offering their developer kit for free when Microsoft did.

Not that anyone here is old enough to remember that.

>>52980728
How do you suggest someone provide a link to a lack of something?
Windows doesn't have giraffes hopping up and down the screen every 5 minutes, but can you find a single source asserting that it doesn't?

>>52980765
http://www.pctools.com/security-news/zero-day-vulnerability/

Sure, wait 'til patch Tuesday. I'm fine with being vulnerable until then.

>>52978411
I'm 29 and what is this?

>>52980769
Because I'm 100% positive one of you Linux fags would've bitched hard enough to make a news article if it were really a fucking problem...but NONE of you seem to realize windows is made for the COMMON PERSON not the ADVANCED FUCKING USERS....they LITERALLY have to make their OS retard proof because that's the general computer user....someone who doesn't even know how to unzip a fucking zip file

>>52980765

Also I work with Microsoft products for a living. I deal with that shit 5 days a week. Don't assume ignorance, it could come back to bite you some day.

>>52980715
>the app store was added to compete with Linux
>not Steam

>>52980715

The problem is, every fucking piece of Linux is maintained by a different organization. When one of them decides they aren't going to conform or abandons a project, which happens often, the whole OS suffers.

>>52980824
>>compete with
Please leave...you're not old enough to read so you don't belong on /g/

>>52980805
None of what you said is relevant to what this reply chain is about. Calm down.

>>52980824

It was added because Ballmer and and now Nadella think they're Steve Jobs reincarnate.

>>52980827
And that's windows fault how?
>>52980844
How about you read what I was replying to? Instead of being a fucking moron

>>52978154
>Lincukcs
>still using centralized repository for software/driver/everything
I am starting to believe loonix are more botnet than windows

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>>52978988

Shit noone uses especially not developers?

>>52980861

>And that's windows fault how?

No, when the fuck did I say that?

>>52980827
>every fucking piece of Linux
Linux, which is a kernel, is maintained by the kernel maintainers.
GNU, the other half of "Linux", is maintained by the GNU maintainers.

>>52980872

You also have SJW's getting triggered because their commits were rejected and you get things like systemd.

>actually WANTING dependency hell

wew lad

>>52980649

>implying casuals aren't the majority
>implying 90% of the world belongs on a tech forum

>>52980498

Because every serious developer users Linux. People who know and understand tech use Linux.

Also
>implying you can shill a free product

>>52978154
OP you're absolutely right. It's crazy. And I exclusively use Windows, while logging onto a CentOS server every once in a while to manage it.

>>52980992
>implying you can shill a free product
linux users everyone!!

>>52978154
You can manage my package all day, Linuxcuck.

>this fucking thread

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>52981068
No one cares about the Free Software Foundation.

>>52981042

What motive could a Linux shill possibly have?

"Come on guys and use more of our bandwidth by downloading a free copy of this distro."

>>52981068

We meet again Richard.

>>52981120
Not even "our" bandwidth, since torrents are a thing

>>52981099

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my post: please consider ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

Fuck you.

>>52981144
>>52981130

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

Fuck you guys too.

>>52979693
Again, that wasn't the argument dumbass

>>52978984
So you ask random people how they define the word "computer" and they answer "desktop computer" ? This proves nothing. Your DVD and TV are computers, though not a general purpose computes. Your smart phone and tablet however are general purpose computers.

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>>52979661
>Install windows 7
>Need USB 3.0, audio, video, network, and disk drivers to function from 3rd party sources because they aren't kept up anymore.

>Install Mint from LiveCD
It
Just
Werks

>>52981226
well not really, you gotta go through the annoying NVIDIA driver install

>>52979307
yes, because that makes less sense than dll hell in windows with a million different sketchy pajeet exe files

isn't microsoft thriving to have all the basic software already available like apple does? they have file manager, image viewer, internet browser, email client, office, instant messenger, media player. what else do you need? besides steam

>>52978236
app is actually short for applet, not application.

>>52978154
Windows is deprecated garbageware, that's why.

>>52981226
>Cherry picking an old, unsupported OS vs. a currently maintained OS
welp, I'm convinced.

>>52981326
Trisquel has all that (besides Steam), a bitcoin wallet program and a bittorrent client, right out of the box.

As someone who is using Linux for a long time now, I don't care. I use whatever works best for me for the task at hand and its really a mixed bag. The graphics driver for windows show better performance, but old windows (win xp downwards) games run extremely well in wine (dungeon keeper windowed if you want to).

Much of the free Software I use is available on both platform so there is no difference. Who cares if there is no native package manager if you can install one?

Its true that you have to drive windows more carefully. See what you install from where, see that you can remove it fully if you want to.

Its also true that you still have to invest time to tweak linux stuff.

I think the development valve does with steamOS (steam for linux) is very interesting. I am replaying Portal 2 natively in linux at the moment and it works fantasticly. If the GPU companies would invest in the linux drivers a bit more there would be no reason for gamers to not use linux as a gaming system.

>>52978501
>Choco
+1 for this.

>>52981411
one thing I never understood is why are they still selling copies of their OS on a disc?

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>>52979312
>Windows users
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>52978446
did you know hiroshima nagasaki's father is Kendo nagasaki the wrestler?

picture related, it's kendo nagasaki

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>>52981448
oops forgot picture

>>52981433
Not everyone has access to internet, nor do they want to spend part of their >data caps

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>>52979312
>Tech literate
>Winbabbies
You gotta pick one, child

>>52981557
Did you screenshot that yourself? Fix your font, that shit is awful.

>>52978154
>windows still doesn't have a package manager or a native way to update apps

It actually does. It's just that non autistic people don't like to fuck around in the command line to update their shit.

http://www.howtogeek.com/224111/how-to-use-packagemanagement-aka-oneget-on-windows-10/

>>52981648
>unsigned packages
TRASH

>>52981099
I really do.

>>52981648
Oh god it's like using PPAs everywhere

>>52978154
Did you guys finally get to 2% usage yet?

>mfw there are three times as many macfags as there are linux fags
>macfags pay a lot to have their macs
>linux is free and still nobody wants that usability disaster

>>52981441
thank you for adding that thread

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>>52981620
C O M F Y
O
M
F
Y

>>52981906
oh my god

>>52978411
Im 40, own my house, wife/kids etc drive subarus..
What ya gettn at child?

>>52978154
chocolatey

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>>52981945
Post yours

>>52979122
>They were called programs back in the day
don't you have some homework to do young'un?

>>52978411
fuck off

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>>52979069
bonus apps with your apps

>>52982047
you're missing an altavista toolbar there m8

>>52982008
>1366
It just keeps getting worse

>>52979623

I love it when this argument is brought up. Somehow contributions that makes Linux better on headless servers translates into desktop improvements.

>>52979313
apt-get idiot
advanced packaging tool

>>52979122
>They were called programs back in the day
Nope.

Apache = server = program != application
Microsoft Word = application = program != server

Application is a program for end user's direct use.

>>52979313
kek

>>52982047

>making an argument based on a browser only used by boomers.

>>52982087
>Not even asking screen size
Go ahead, post your font rendering

>>52979284
>it’s the finest, most professional looking package manager ever.
Having a hard day Bradeep? Supervisor riding you today. Hope you got those rupees for this post.
We wouldnt want your 20 kids eating ox shit tonight.

>>52978436
>>52978715
>>52978840
Where do all those idiots get the idea that Android = Linux distros?

It's not about the kernel, you fucking retards. The kernel is irrelevant. Android uses a fork of the Android kernel but (as most people use it) is very much not open source and very much not putting the user in control. The exact opposite actually, it's used to distribute proprietary and outright commercial apps and filled to the brink with data mining to profit off the users. Thinking Linux "won" because Android uses the kernel is extraordinarily retarded.

Think like this, would you guys use Windows 10 if it used Linux instead of NT but were otherwise exactly the same (including forced updates, always-on telemetry, all closed source and so on), just because of the kernel it uses? Or do you idiots not understand that the point is not the kernel, but the FOSS philosophy that should come with it?

>>52978154
it would be considered as an antitrust violation and prosecuted as such if ms were to have a native package manager, the windows "apps" is the closest they've decided they can get and remain legal

reminder that these are all actual, official logos of "popular" free software projects
https://www.gnu.org/graphics/package-logos.html

>>52982183
>Where do all those idiots get the idea that Android = Linux distros?

Because blurring the lines between mobile devices and computers is the only argument they have

>>52982183

Google is botnet until you bring up Android. At that point you're advised to use a malware infested custom ROM.

>free os
>free softwares
>free dev tools
>free everything
>but still absolutely no one uses it for daily drive except for the special ones
KEK

>>52982247
>clisp
тaки нe пaлимcя в нaтype
otherwise, dolan.jpg

>>52982321
and the space station.

>>52982368

The only thing in common with what nasa runs and your arch ricebox is part of the kernel, kiddo.

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>>52978154

Linux is still shit on the desktop. I don't give a fuck how nice the package management is.

>>52978154
It actually has three package managers

Chocolatey
Nuget
Store (also has cli version)

Things installed from the store are automatically updated (if you enable it in the settings)

>>52982407
http://gizmodo.com/the-iss-has-ditched-windows-entirely-for-linux-499593441

Retard.

Programs and applications only, apps need not apply.

>>52978933

More like
>yaourt -S package
>werks

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>Unity editor does not even remotely work on Linux
>I'm heterosexual so I can't use a Mac

i literally dont have a choice so you all can fuck off

>>52982478
>Literally all linux/gnu users are disconnected to society who cant go out
YOU
CANT
MAKE
THIS
UP

>>52982563
you say it like it's a bad thing

>>52982478

Right. I'm saying it's heavily customized by a legion of paid developers to fit their specific purpose. And that's why its dependable for them.

>>52982255
Hell, you don't even need to do that. They could make Android PCs, for example, and it would still not be a Linux distro. The whole point of Linux distros is to have free (as in freedom) open source software that the user can review, customize and keep complete control over. Google's Android (that is, not AOSP, because Android without the Google apps is worthless for the vast majority of Android users) is the very opposite of that.
The simple idea of having a Linux distro and downloading Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, Spotify and Crash of Clans apps on it is completely backwards and retarded.

>>52982557
You know, unity actually runs better on my 2013 rmpb than it does on my big gaming rig.
It's shocking.

>>52982563
You're failing at shilling today Rajeesh. I don't think you'll be getting any rupees.

>>52980992
>every serious developer uses Linux

Top kek you win the NEET comment of the day.

>>52982089
>contributions to the kernel affect the kernel
>don't affect X11
Gee, I wonder why that is?

>>52982678
Fuck off back to /v/, manchild

>>52982625
It's Debian 6, so it's a little more than the kernel.

>>52980992

>I do everything the hard way so people will think I'm l33t

What a lonely existence this must be.

>>52982701

Still an entirely different animal than what I'd get if I went and downloaded Debian 6 right now.

>>52982710
>Linux is hard
I know a lot of things seem hard when you're 13, but it gets easier, trust me

>>52982183
>>52982632
>talks about the philosophical reasons to use "Linux"
>no mention of GNU
Come the fuck on
The confusion you're talking about is literally why the term "GNU/Linux" exists. GNU is the OS besides the kernel and Linux is the kernel.
Case in point, Android has no GNU, but it has Linux.

>>52978236
KYS

>>52978154
You know what. You're right. I'd like it to update all the programs natively, and I was disappointed when I discovered that the package manager they announced was in fact the marketplace and it just updates "apps".
I'd like to have it. But I still think windows is the right operating system for me.

>>52979344
>mfw i have never used microshits store
yey

>>52982751
Fair enough.
The point is, when people say "THE YEAR OF LINUX", they mean "THE YEAR OF GNU/LINUX". The subsequent idiots that come and say "b-but it's already that year, look at Android, it uses the kernel!" should kill themselves.

Or you could be less autistic and refer to it as "Linux distros" instead of "GNU/Linux".

>>52982830
The real phrase is "Year of the Linux Desktop." It's not confusing when you say the whole thing.

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>>52982640
dont talk to me faggo

>>52982750

>I know a lot of things seem hard when you're 13, but it gets easier, trust me

I know you have a lot of time on your hands not having a job and all, but if you ever do get out of your parent's basement you'll start to see the value in things that you don't have to troubleshoot constantly.

>>52982990
rude

>>52982888
>calls other people faggo
>posts lesbian space rocks

>>52979491
Why would you need that?

>>52979573
confirmed for being a winbaby that never used or looked at a manual.

>>52983078

Document your shit and I'll read it. Don't get pissed at me because you don't do you job.

>>52978236
Kill yourself

>all these sperglords getting triggered by the use of the word Linux meaning the whole OS .

No one actually says 'ganoo linux'. You'd sound like a retard and you'd never get laid.

>>52982887
Yes, but my point is, even if there were Android desktops and they were a majority, it would still not be "year of Linux desktop".

>>52983208
>implying there isn't a problem in that situation
There's always idiots on /g/ that think Linux is relevant because of Android, as if it was all about the kernel all along.
There's the Linux kernel, and there's the "Linux" community which is concerned with things much, much bigger than a kernel. In fact, the kernel is irrelevant, you could replace Linux with another hypothetical FOSS kernel that has the same functionality and it would make zero difference to the "Linux" community.
That's why some people want terms like "GNU/Linux". To avoid this confusion and those retards thinking it's about the kernel.

>>52979661
>launch software settings
>click graphics driver tab
>check proprietary driver
>reboot

gee its so hard to switch to the proprietary driver on ubuntu

>>52979693
you are completely out of your mind. lots and lots, maybe even most of those contributions benefit desktops and laptops

>>52978154
Avast! Antivirus works like an app updater.

>>52979799
bro if you really cared about gpu performance and having a free driver you would use AMD or Intel. Youre blaming Linux for Nvidia contributing ZERO to an open-source driver

at least the OPERATING SYSTEM itself is free and open-source on Linux. On Windows you are using a closed-source operating system just to use your computer at all

>>52979968
>not being atheist

>>52979972
My Atheros are working great with both a free and open-source driver as well as a free and open-source firmware

i have realteks and intels that are working perfectly with open-source drivers

i really dont see what youre getting at. do you think wireless drivers for linux have not improved in the past 10 years?

>>52980137
>linux shills
that doesnt really make sense

>>52980231
>except for the ones that dont use microshit

>>52980463
you are a windows shill and this board is infested by the likes of you

>>52978154

>Neighbor uses OpenSuse
>I fix his computer problems in exchange for favours
>Wants to know if there's anything on in some old text files

>go to install program so I can view old Windows files
>link on browser opens source in package manager
>waiting...
>unspecified error: try again?
>yes
>error
>try again from Firefox
>error
>lie and tell him I fixed it anyway

Truly the superior way to computing.

package managers are literally a botnet

>>52980493
literally every time you swap a motherboard
i can swap motherboards all i want in my linux machines and they all still work perfectly fine

>>52978154
I still can't believe people install things using apt get.

Linux users used to make fun of Windows users for needing a wizard to install their programs, now they're bragging about literally pressing an easy button with no user interaction other than selecting yes over and over.

And in the end they know less about what has been installed and where it is than the Windows user. He at least knows his program is under program files.

Linux? Dependencies, dependencies everywhere.

>>52980463
Get the fuck out of here you piece of shit. You're vermin and don't belong on /g/.

>>52980590
nvidia has refused to release signed drivers, which are required for the open-source driver to function at all, for maxwell gpus. again, youre blaming linux for other companies fuck ups. you need to use on-board video/another card for the install, then install the proprietary nvidia driver, then install the gpu. not that big of a fucking deal and you would know this with literally 1 minute on google, including not only how to fix this but how it is entirely due to nvidias faggotry

>>52980649
>literally 90% of the world's computing population.
you mean how they run Android Linux?

>>52980758
care to try again?

>>52980765
>zerodays is a big word

>>52980805
>NONE of you seem to realize windows is made to extract the most cash out of the COMMON PERSON

ftfy

>>52981441
saved

>>52982830
Android is clearly a Linux distro. youre retarded

>>52978411
fucking idiot

>>52982407
it runs stock debian

>>52982466
>multiple package managers

>>52981406
Windows 7 is supported till 2020, so yeah the comparison is pretty fair.

>>52979069
if only it was that easy on linux

>>52982436
>Linux is still shit on the desktop
It's not 2005 anymore, faggot.

windows takes 3 minutes to shut down
linux takes 2 seconds to shut down

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>>52985116
linux on an HDD is LITERALLY as fast as windows is on an SSD

it's just fucking pathetic

>>52982563
> Damage Control: The Post

>>52985116
I decided to test that. windows shut down in 9 seconds.

>>52982990
>What is Ubuntu: Linux for babbies
Do you enjoy being this autistic?

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>>52978182
>it's the sound of all of the windows shills and fandboys that infest this board running as fast as they can to this thread to defend their OS from an accusation they probably don't even understand

Yep, both of them. I heard the door open twice.

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>>52982016
>>52984971
>extra large sized virgin shits got their feelings hurt this badly
someone called the police lmao

shit your panties some more

>>52978154
There's Chocolatey. It's pretty shitty, but it beats a kick in the ass.

>>52982632
>that is, not AOSP, because Android without the Google apps is worthless for the vast majority of Android users

Thats your opinion and its wrong. fdroid is a package manager with default repos for android containing only free and open-source packages, and there is plenty in there

my nexus5 runs slimkat with no gapps and has nothing from the play store installed. works amazingly

>>52982722
it is almost identical to what you would get if you went and downloaded debian 6 right now

>>52982710
everything in a distro like linux mint is easier than it is in windows

>>52982990
>he thinks linux has to be troubleshot more than windows
AHHAHAHHA
youre delusional

>>52983499
it clearly would be

>>52978154
>>apps
You managed to get this thread to hit the bump limit 10/10

>>52983061
so you don't have to have 10 billion explorer windows open

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It's funny how nearly every anti-Linux Windows user in this thread has show that they know literally nothing about how Linux actually runs and how maintenance requirements vary greatly between distros.
Pretty much the only argument they ever have is
>hurrrr only neckbeard n33tz have time to sit there and configure everything for their os

Nice job completely outing yourselves as typical tech illiterate consumers who believe they are tech literate simply because they heard a few things on the internet.

>>52985432
Is this post supposed to be ironic?

>>52980739
nigger

>>52985549
Nope, don't see why you'd think so.

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>Install a Microsoft program.
>Get updated through Windows Update.

>Install an App through App Store.
>Get automatic updates.

>Install a 3rd party program.
>Get updates as soon as I open it.

I don't see the problem, I have updated software as much as when I used Linux. Damn, I ever get updates of my software faster with Windows, because I don't have to wait for the distro to package the updates.

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>>52978154
>apps

>>52979019
if it sucks so much why do you even dual boot
linux cucks btfo

>>52985390
But then you just have a billion tabs open.