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I have no idea what I'm doing edition

Previously on: >>52966619

Intended for users of all levels, including absolute beginners.

There are four ways to try Linux, you can:

1) Install a Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
2) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full Linux experience".
3) Dual-boot Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about Linux)
4) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with Linux (not recommended)

Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.

Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly Linux Thread.

Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe wine can make up for it.

Resources:
man <insert command here>
your friendly neighborhood search engine
https://wiki.archlinux.org/
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
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>>52977793
I really really like your logo.
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>>52977793
GREEN IS MY PEPPER

What is GNU + Linux
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux

Various helpful GNU + Linux pages from your friends at /g/
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

Check out this page for any updates on the OP
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php//flt/

Beginner tips/guides
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/
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The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/

The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/

Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls

SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt

Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/
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>>52977793

Starting off with a tough question:
I have added ~/bin to my PATH, and I intend to use it for storing symlinks to executables so I can add new executables easily to bash. But can I use it to add new directories too? Creating a symlink to a directory that contains several executables doesn't seem to work, bash doesn't find the executables.
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>>52977793
https://sourceforge.net/projects/architect-linux/

Architect Linux - the successor to "Evo/Lution Linux" - provides a powerful, user-friendly, and flexible installer for Arch Linux.

The net-based Architect Installation Framework will download the latest packages from the Arch repositories to build the most up-to-date system possible. It can be used to provide just the Arch base alone, or also to provide a large choice of full desktop environments, window managers, display managers, and network managers.
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>>52977900
wget archfi.sf.net/archfi; sh archfi
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>>52977841
go ahead you can save it ;)
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>>52977944
thanks lori
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>>52977891
>making folders in ./bin
Thats not how it works.
Throw them in ./bin
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>>52977793
/g/ - graphic design
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>>52977900
>latest packages
>most up-to-date
You need an entire framework to do pacman -Syyu?
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>>52978008
>You need an entire framework to do pacman -Syyu?
thank you for missing the point
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>>52977962
It's just that this one fine piece of software (PHP Composer) likes to shove its own personal bin directory inside my home dir, and I'd like to add its contents to bash without editing the path variable. Is that even possible?
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>>52978021
>provide a large choice of full desktop environments, window managers, display managers, and network managers.
>pacman -S gnome
>pacman -S kde
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>>52978079
Tell this to your average Manjaro or Antergos user and they'll write an entire blog post about how wrong you are.

They're retarded children, of course, but the linux community is nothing if not accepting.
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I want to install Arch Linux. How to safety format only c partition and keep d partition? Dumb shit question but i just want get rid of Windows and i see installing Arch isn't easy.
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>>52978079

easy guided setup for noobs
>partitioning
>grub
>display manager
>media players
>xorg
>text editors
>AUR
>browsers
>fonts
>codecs
>network tools

gg
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>>52978152
Just don't overwrite D. Arch won't do anything you don't tell it to.
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>>52978152
>I want to install Arch Linux. How to safety format only c partition and keep d partition? Dumb shit question but i just want get rid of Windows and i see installing Arch isn't easy.

use archfi
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If you can copy and paste, you shouldn't have an issue installing Arch Linux. If you do, you're an idiot.
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>>52978204
>copy and paste
>live usb

kek, gg retard
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>>52978167
How high are the chances he won't accidentally do it?
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I am going to redpill you about the GPL.

Some cucks (among many we have) are trying to promote BSD, MIT, Apache and other licenses because they are hired by corporations that can make privative software thanks to those licenses by putting some closed source on top and fuck everyone else.

For example. Darwin is an operative system in which Apple collaborates with the "open source" community. Because it is a BSD derivative, Apple uses that operative system and put it some closed source bits and call it OS X.

Sure, you can use Darwin, but is crippleware, is of much lesser quality. And Apple is not even full fascist here, they at least have some degree of cooperation. Microsoft on the other hand in the 90's spread memos about how to fuck up Linux and the free as in freedom community. Is called "embrace, extend, extinguish". See for yourself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents

If you were in charge of Microsoft, and you had no ethics, what would you do knowing that you could harm the free software community just by reusing "open source" software in your favor, put some bells and whistles, and extinguishing the original product?

I beg you consider the GPL and LGPL over everything else. One can't possibly know what is being used under the hood of many privative software, and you never know when something "open sourced" sometime ago is now part of closed source software.

Even the LGPL is tricky, because you can have a fully functional application in LGPL which someone can cut off the interface, put a privative interface to it and deprecate any other interface by changing the API (systemd?).
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>>52978228
Pretty damn low.
Hell I've been using Linux for years and I still unplug my other drives when I go to reformat a hard drive.
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>>52978240
tl;dr
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>>52977891
When the system searches for an executable, it does not delve into subdirectories of those in your PATH. Your options are to move the files to the bin folder itself or add the new folder to your path as well
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>>52978262
Can't shorten, is a complicated subject ;_;
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Currently using Mint because I'm still new to Linux. Is it worth moving to other distros if I don't care about ricing?
All I'm doing is coding and every day browsing things.
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>>52978240
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>>52978240
thanks
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>>52978291
No, if it does what you need then it fulfils it's function.
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>>52978291
>Is it worth moving to other distros
No
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>>52978240
Uh
WTFPL (Do What the Fuck You Want to Public License)
is the best free license.
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>>52978291

You can rice mint, you can rice any distro.
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>>52978291
you can rice on mint aswell. do you like ethics? do you like bleeding edge stuff? do you like stability?
mint has it's niche, find out if it fits your niche.
if it doesn't, i always shill for debian.
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>>52978320
>"do what the fuck you want to"
>can't do what the fuck you want to
"free" my ass
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>>52978303
ur welcome
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>>52978262
GPL is a free license that protects freedom instead of allowing to close and sell it (why WTFPL is bad as example). Some people think therefore the GPL is less free.
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>>52978288
>Can't shorten, is a complicated subject ;_;
It's a pointless subject,, we're on 4chan, a place where 90 percent of the posters are pirates.

Oh look, a private tracker general, I guess thy're downloading Linux ISOs. Lol kid
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>>52978286
I think some swell dude figured it out already: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29352289/what-is-a-convenient-path-editor-for-linux

I set up my own path.conf and now I can just append new paths there and do "source .bashrc"
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>>52978262

tl;dr bsd and similar licenses are for cucks who want others to use their code with no credit and no giving back to the community as you're free to use bsd licensed code in closed source software
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>>52978291
>coding

Lol, no you're not, you wouldn't even be ask if you had that level of competence.
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>>52978336
           DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE
Version 2, December 2004

Copyright (C) 2004 Sam Hocevar <[email protected]>

Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim or modified
copies of this license document, and changing it is allowed as long
as the name is changed.

DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE
TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR COPYING, DISTRIBUTION AND MODIFICATION

0. You just DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO.
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>>52978351
Free=!Gratis
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>>52978373
see
>>52978342
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>>52978369
I've only been doing it for about a week so I'm sure at some point I might understand what you mean.
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Is the portage folder cross platform? I want to share it across all my devices.
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>>52978342
>The license was approved as a GPL-compatible free software license by the Free Software Foundation but its use is “not recommended.”
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>>52978373
>changing it is allowed as long as the name is changed.
>as long as
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>>52978363
>tl;dr bsd and similar licenses are for cucks who want others to use their code with no credit and no giving back to the community as you're free to use bsd licensed code in closed source software
>>52978342
>GPL is a free license that protects freedom instead of allowing to close and sell it (why WTFPL is bad as example). Some people think therefore the GPL is less free.

So, like, can Linux users actually afford to sue anyone? lol

I kinda doubt anyone cares about stealing their idea and using it in a proprietary product, yay open soeurs'
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>>52978390
which portage folder?
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>>52978373
Luckily these people don't do politics.
>here, I programmed a HUGE CACTUS DILDO
>also: just rape my ass, I don't care
>DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT WITH THAT CACTUS DILDO
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>>52978405
/usr/portage
I want to share it with my Beaglebone Black, my x64 server, and my x86 thin clients.
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>>52978415
Your analogy means nothing
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>>52978429
Should be as far as I know, it's when the build happens where it gets specific. I could be wrong on that though. Distfiles might not be actually, thinking about it.
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>>52978334
I'll look into it when I've crammed more command lines into my head. Debian was actually how I discovered Linux. So I'm interested in trying it at least one.
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Arch is too complitated for me. Any good distro with minimalistic look, easy install and "just werks"? Without botnet like Ubuntu or hah Gentoo.
Looking for Opensuse or Fedora but suggest anything
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https://bitbucket.org/ Ulikea/shellscripts/raw/ 5e3b022b1adb866462e5c50cdf16f650a828fd55/install.bash

install script for arch, mainly for easy use :)
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>>52978457
Why? People choose a free license because they want their stuff to be free as in freedom. By using WTFPL and related _I-dont-care_ licenses, they do the opposite: they choose a free license that allows to transform it into nonfree.
There; your raped ass.
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>>52978503
Debian or Fedora, i prefer debian.
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>>52978334
To add on though, would you just recommend stable or testing?
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>>52978576
testing is more useful for me, but if stability is the highest priority, use stable (maybe with backports).
i never had testing break.
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>>52978516
So you use my license as you want, and if you want to change it you rename it something because you are no longer adhearing to the license.
What do you not understand.
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>>52978609
Okay thanks anon. I'll just use stable for now.
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>>52978610
Basically Cuck my ass: The Licence

freetards should just still to make apps or something, leave the legal shit to lawyers
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>>52978402
The FSF has sued over GPL infringements before.
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>>52978653
>The FSF has sued over GPL infringements before.
oh
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>>52978402
see>>52978653
the fsf are the ones that make sure we don't get cucked
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>>52978674
>>52978702
They also use the earnings from it to fuel more lawsuits. It doesn't actually help the developers any. The FSF are just a bunch of fucking jews.
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as this is "I have no idea what I'm doing edition", could someone give me a guide for basics basics basics, because for now I really almost have now idea what I'm doing.
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>>52978674
Yep, it was actually almost-big nears a few years ago. Some guy was apparently making proprietary software with Busybox source code in it, and the FSF practically went full-crusade against him.
IIRC it was settled out of court but it actually did go to trial and from what I know the FSF was winning the case before the settlement.
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>>52978711
youtube tutorials and the installgentoo wiki
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>>52978711
type :help! in vim
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>>52978712
Damn, the FSF are really jewish.
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>>52978610
What you do not understand (or refuse to), is that greedy bastards exists, and those bastards would like to take advantage on people who either develop or collaborate on open source software just to make profit.

Do you even know the story of Unix or why the Free Software Foundation was made? Or are you shilling?
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>>52978752
What they do with my license is none of my concern.
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>>52978709
>It doesn't actually help the developers any.
By protecting to code from being closed?
>The FSF are just a bunch of fucking jews.
I smell bias here.
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How does aria2 work? I heard it can download magnet links. Anyone can post an usage example?
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>>52978790
>"none of my concern"
>mfw I don't know if responding to obvious cuck
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>>52978819
http://linux.die.net/man/1/aria2c

Lots of examples in the man page
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>Has Ubuntu Gnome
>Slightly autistic with linux
What can I do to make my linux experience better and more awesome /g/?
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>>52978516
>People choose a free license because they want their stuff to be free as in freedom
Or they want people to use their stuff.
Note that even if someone uses your stuff in non-free software, your free software will still be free and usable by other people.
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>>52978906
>when I help the black guy to fuck my girlfriend, I can still fuck her after, nothing is lost
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>>52978906
>they want people to use their stuff
By letting the code to be cucked and closed?
>your free software will still be free and usable by other people
What is "deprecation".
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>>52978902
>What can I do to make my linux experience better and more awesome /g/?

Don't fall for the Linux Distro trap and don't worry what faggots on /g/ think. Ubuntu is a top quality distro with the most third party support.
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>>52978795
>By protecting to code from being closed?
lel
Just look at the fallout from the whole busybox debacle to see how well the GPL works. Not only is that code not being used (and getting support because of it), but a competing software is now getting funded that uses the BSD license.
Did I mention that the developers didn't get any fucking money from the FSF? Maybe if busybox didn't have the GPL it would have more people submitting bug fixes.
You GPL faggots are the real cucks, you develop shit and the FSF makes money off of it without giving anything to the devs.
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>>52978977
and Amazon botnet
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>>52978977
there was a time when bait was good
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>>52978963
>What is "deprecation".
Apparently you no longer care about your software if you deprecate it without a replacement.

>By letting the code to be cucked and closed?
Your free code is still open. The only thing possibly closed is changes they did to it.
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>>52978981
>busybox debacle
>blame the license and not BSD community bias toward the GPL (influenced by who I ask)
Interesting fallacies you got there.
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>>52979013

What does Steam say about their favorite linux?

>Ubuntu is our favorite version of Linux. Interested in giving it a whirl? You can install and run Ubuntu from a Live CD or USB stick, or install it to run alongside Windows.

http://store.steampowered.com/about/
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>>52979085
>BSD community
>somehow relevant to the outcome of the trial
People started to support a BSD replacement because they knew that using the GPL is fucking retarded.
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>>52979100
>steam likes ubuntu
>ubuntu is good
wat?!
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>>52979100
yet they used debian for steamOS
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>>52978981
>competing software is now getting funded that uses the BSD license
I wonder who fund the developers, not big corps right?
>>52979030
>Apparently you no longer care about your software if you deprecate it without a replacement.
What is FUCKING SYSTEMD!
Deprecation of software is many times forced by external factors, not by choice.
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Now for Ubuntu® LINUX™ sponsored by Amazon™® and Canonical® .
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>>52979150
>What is FUCKING SYSTEMD!
Using GNU LGPL 2.1+, so it must be good

>by external factors
Like a replacement being available?
How does that go against what I said?
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Any moderately customizable apps docks for Arch? I use the tint2 toolbar and its alright but I want to have a nice dock at the bottom. I use i3-gaps so there is always a decent outer border where I can keep something down there, right?
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>>52979190
*We thank >>52978906 for using his code.
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>>52979190
Have you tried to play XCom on Linux? Apparently now even the games have telemetry because the game tries to communicate with its home base every time the game is started.

Of course this also happens on Windows, but on Linux you can trick the game into playing without sending shit.

I see only dark times for gaymers.
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>>52979229
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3671
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>>52977992
I ONLY JUST REALIZED THE LOGO WAS A MEME ARROW
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>>52979212
>Using GNU LGPL
Thanks for giving me reason to be worry about systemdick, and knew the shitty interface was for a reason and not a coincidence, see >>52978240
>Even the LGPL is tricky, because you can have a fully functional application in LGPL which someone can cut off the interface, put a privative interface to it and deprecate any other interface by changing the API (systemd?).

>Like a replacement being available?
>How does that go against what I said?
Apparently you never said anything about caring for freedom, and you probably give a shit about other people who may use the software and wants more than crippleware, so seems all logical.
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what is bash?
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>>52978373

WTFPL IS THE ONLY INTELLIGENT LICENSE TO USE

WTFPL IS LOVE
WTFPL IS LIFE
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>>52979397
see
>>52977878
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>>52979340
Oh shit that's clever.
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>>52979356
Samefag much?
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>>52979401
found they guy who was to lazy to educate himself about licensing
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>>52979401
WTFPL is pretty much this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_MJbgO7SF0
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>>52979329
>>52979356
>>52979390
Are you done fixing your post yet?

>Apparently you never said anything about caring for freedom
I care about the freedom of not trying to force other people to do things they might not want.
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I am in linux

need to securelly wipe hdd
speed is preferable over some 48hours multiple passes

whats the recommendations for wiping disk?
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>>52979463
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/yourdrive
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>>52979428
No, admitting I am one and the same, who has tolerated your bullshit arguments 'til now.
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>>52979463
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda

Assuming the disk you want to wipe is /dev/sda.
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>>52979463
>what's the recommendations for wiping disk?
Wipe it with 99% isopropyl alcohol, just like you would do with a circuit board. There's only a few screws there. But if you don't change and clean the platters then you'll always be able to recover the data UNLESS you overwrite the data.
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>>52979463
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>>52979456
>I care about the freedom of not trying to force other people to do things they might not want.
Apparently not, as you are trying to force people into your bias towards GPL.
Or is it a bias? You may have another reason to be shilling against GPL for all we know.
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>>52979436
yep i'm the one.

i like to write code and share it and i do not care for it

code is like a child, once is grown up he must get the fuck out of my home, and i'm not responsible for him anymore
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>>52979480
>>52979489
can I get run down explanation of that command?

dd- convert and copy
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>>52979489
>>52979480
Hm, ninjad.
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>>52979540
dd basically takes an input file "if" and writes it to an output file "of". It can do much more than that but that's all you'll be using it for right now.
The cool thing about that is that all media devices are listed in in linux's /dev directory as files, not directories, so dd can write to them. This is very useful if you wanted to, say, image a CD from an archive.
In your case, however, it will basically write an infinite amount of zeroes to your drive. /dev/zero returns as many 0s as are read from it, and dd will keep writing until the output file runs out of room. So you'll basically replace every bit on your hard drive with 0s. It's similar to erasing the partition table but is far, FAR more permanent. There's usually no going back once you've done it.
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>>52979540
man dd
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does anyone recommend a web proxy for fedora ?
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>>52979480
also, dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdx

never have to fuck with unetbootin or rufus again
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>>52979444
>assrape
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>>52979596
Not the same anon, but:
How to use bs=? Can it be used to speed up things? Also, how to know about the current progress?
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>>52979528
>you are trying to force people into your bias towards GPL
Says the one who apparently feels threatened by non-GPL licenses.
Chill man.
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>>52979662
found the guy who thinks there are only 2 people posting on 4chan: (You) and Anonymous
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>>52979697
Wait, there's MORE of you?
Fucking hell, you guys are like maggots.
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>>52979662
As you were attacking the GPL non-stop, and do not deny it, just leave. Why even bother to attack the GPL if you have nothing to hide?

Stop shilling man.
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>>52979737
Point out where I attacked the GPL.
I didn't even say anything about the GPL.

Stop being paranoid.
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>>52979768
>>52979783
This is called a Friendly Linux Thread for a reason. You have nothing to do here attacking people for shady reasons.
Leave.
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>>52979821
stop crying, kek
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quick, post the output of vrms
           Non-free packages installed on desktop-debian

amd64-microcode Processor microcode firmware for AMD CPUs
firmware-amd-graphics Binary firmware for AMD/ATI graphics chips
steam Valve's Steam digital software delivery system

Non-free packages with status other than installed on desktop-debia

intel-microcode ( dei) Processor microcode firmware for Intel CPUs

Contrib packages with status other than installed on desktop-debian

virtualbox ( dei) x86 virtualization solution - base binaries
virtualbox-qt ( dei) x86 virtualization solution - Qt based user in

4 non-free packages, 0.2% of 2113 installed packages.
2 contrib packages, 0.1% of 2113 installed packages.
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>>52979835
for people without vrms:
dpkg-query -W -f '${Section}/${Package}\n' | grep -E "^(contrib|multiverse|non-free|partner|restricted)/" | sort
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>>52979854
non-free/libdevel/libfaac-dev
non-free/libs/libfaac0
non-free/sound/faac
partner/web/adobe-flashplugin
partner/web/adobe-flash-properties-gtk
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>>52979854
>debian
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>>52979888
I dont even know, do I need faac for anything?
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>>52979907
>no liking based debian
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>>52979854
>there are people on /g/ that don't have a virtual rms installed
please say this is not true
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>>52979980
why installing a useless package when you can do the same using a simple one-liner?
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>>52979980
>installing random scripts that you'll only use once when you could easily do it yourself

literally the debian way
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>>52980007
it's a virtual rms, why wouldn't you install it?
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>>52979821

> telling people what to do in a freedom thread
ok
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>>52980040
vrms is also available for Arch
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>>52980067
now you showed him
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>>52980051
fuck off pedo
>>
>>52980105
>not knowing who she is
https://lifeboat.com/ex/bios.alexandra.a.elbakyan
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>>52979907

>I need bleeding-edge packages to optimize my shitpost experience
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>>52980175
>only using your linux installation for web browsing

I think we both know who the real shitposter is, anon.
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how do i change desktop enviroment?
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>>52980051
Why haven't you installed rms.cow?
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>>52979835

Non-free packages installed on $USER

doom-wad-shareware Shareware game files for the 3D game Doom
iozone3 Filesystem and Disk Benchmarking Tool
libcg Nvidia Cg core runtime library
libcggl Nvidia Cg Opengl runtime library
libfaac0 AAC audio encoder (library)
libretro-genesisplusgx Libretro wrapper for Genesis Plus GX
mame Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator (MAME)
mess-data Data files for the Multi Emulator Super System (MESS)
nvidia-cg-dev Cg Toolkit - GPU Shader Authoring Language (headers)
nvidia-cg-toolkit Cg Toolkit - GPU Shader Authoring Language
steam Valve's Steam digital software delivery system
unrar Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)

Contrib packages installed on $USER

chocolate-doom Doom engine closely-compatible with vanilla doom
emulationstation Graphical emulator front-end
emulationstation-theme-simple Simple theme for EmulationStation
flashplugin-installer Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
playonlinux front-end for Wine
ttf-mscorefonts-installer Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts
winetricks Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (winetricks)

12 non-free packages, 0.7% of 1739 installed packages.
7 contrib packages, 0.4% of 1739 installed packages.
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>>52980219
https://github.com/archhurd/packages/blob/master/extra/cowsay/rms.cow
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>>52980296
$the_cow = <<"EOC";
$thoughts
$thoughts
$thoughts
$thoughts ;xxx;;..:..
$thoughts .,;x:::,';xxxxx,.
$thoughts ;x:'. ..,;.
xxxx.. '.
.xxxxxxx.. '.
;xxxxxxxxx: .;'xx;..,,,. ,
...,'.xxxxxxxxx,. x;'xxxxx:,x:;x
' . ' .x'.;xx: .',xxxx;; . :x,:
' ' ...,x,x'x..... . .'' .''
, . ,.x ;.x;,. .'
.x '. ';;..xxxxxx:;.....:.... ..
' :. ': ::xxxxxxxxxxxxx;xx.. ;
.. ;, ; 'xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'xx';'.,
.' .. , :xxxxxxx';xx:;.x.x,
'. ', '.xxxxxxxxx:.,;x;xx,
.; :. .,.xxxxxxxxxxx::;:xx,,.
'. .. .''xxxxxxxxxxxxxx'..,..
' ; x x:xxxxxxxxx; ':.'.;
. '' x''x;xxxxxx. .' ..,
' ,....'.. ,. ..., '.'
' , .' ':;:'x';.
.. . .,..''''.'.
.. . '.
EOC
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>>52980365
one more
$the_cow = <<EOC;
$thoughts
$thoughts
$thoughts
_-`````-, ,- '- .
.' .- - | | - -. `.
/.' / $thoughts `. \
:/ : _... ..._ `` :
:: : /._ .`:'_.._\. || :
:: `._ ./ ,` : \ . _.'' .
`:. / | -. \-. \\_ /
\:._ _/ .' .@) \@) ` `\ ,.'
_/,--' .- .\,-.`--`.
,'/'' (( \ ` )
/'/' \ `-' (
'/'' `._,-----'
''/' .,---'
''/' ;:
''/'' ''/
''/''/''
'/'/'
`;
EOC

have fun
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>>52979768
>deleted
Every day this place transforms more into Leddit.
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>>52980441
All the mods and janitors are from plebbit, what the fuck did you expect?
>>
how do I get a volume bar when I press the volume buttons on the keyboard?
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>>52980175
>there's only Debian stable
>>
>No non-free or contrib packages installed on [mycomputer]! rms would be proud.
thank you based rms
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>>52980365

Happy merchant?
>>
Do I enable Nvidia's GLVND library from their drivers? I'm getting slight stutters when playing a video on Firefox or mpv.
>>
>>52980898
osd_cat, notify-osd
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>>52981014
Yeah, bad one tbqh, can't find the ansi version.
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> Fedora 22 Cinnamon Spin
> Randomly crashes
> every time I close the laptop lid
> Every other boot
> sometimes just crashes for no apparent reason

I've been working on this one for weeks. When it crashes, everything freezes and the fan cycles loudly on and off, until I dejectedly hard reboot.

Can't figure out why. Trying to compile the 3.1.9 kernel (last stable kernel from 21) but it's complaining about "stray R".
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>>52981477
That's Fedora for you. It's pretty well known to be one of the buggiest pieces of software ever released, and has been forever. Although /g/ seems to ignore this for some reason.
>>
Does anyone use swm?
Im kind of wanting to try it. Getting tired of the *boxes and ill never go to a de.
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>>52981477
>3.1.9 kernel (last stable kernel from 21) but it's complaining about "stray R".
Seriously? That's an ancient kernel.
Post the full output of the error and the commands you are using.

Aside from that though, fedora is literally a testing ground and you are a beta tester.
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What's the openRC counterpart of systemctl?
>>
>>52981687
what does systemctl do?
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>>52981687
...in what context?
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>>52981477
bruh what
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>>52981687
combination of:
rc-config
rc-status
rc-update

Probably but I have never used systemd and don't know what systemctl does exactly.
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>>52981699
>>52981702
I'm trying to set up ssh usually on systemd I type in

$ systemctl enable sshd
$ systemctl start sshd
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>>52981746
rc-update add sshd [boot/default/whatever]
rc
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>>52981746
Oh, just for starting/enabling services?

https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=OpenRC,_an_alternative_to_systemd#Configuration
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>>52981778
>manjaro wiki
are you kidding me?
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>>52981794
It was the first result in startpage. If you want a better source maybe you should google it your fucking self.
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>>52981477
Provide the contents of /var/log/dmesg.0 via a pastebin. The we may find out what went wrong. Also, don't compile thw kernel yourself, just update with sudo dnf update
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>>52981778
Thanks bud.
>>
So I've been screwing around with Mint in virtualbox, but I've got a new laptop that I can screw around with. What distro would I be looking at If I wanted to move past Mint?
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>>52981881
Do you want rolling release?
Ease of use?
Any particular DE?
>>
>>52981881
openSUSE
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>>52981881
It's all the same shit essentially, the only real difference is the package manager and how much manual effort you have to make.
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>>52981910
Im cool with a rolling release
Something a a bit harder than mint, but not arch
Not really
>>
>>52981881
arch
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>>52981952
Is Arch too hard? If you want Arch with an installer, you could always use Antergos.
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>>52981952
>>52981985
Actually, you might like Debian.
It comes in Stable, Testing and Unstable releases.

These just refer to the software available.

Though, if you want newer software with the Stable release, you could use something called 'Backports'.
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>>52981952
A bit harder than Mint but not Arch? That's Debian.
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I'm considering buying a Windows tablet and dual-booting with a Linux distro. I've heard this is actually quite difficult, but possible.

Tell me why I should or shouldn't do this.
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>>52982195
There are only two DEs I know which support touchscreen; Gnome 3* and Unity.

There may be more; feel free to search.
>>
What practice do Mint people here use regarding level 4&5 updates? I've seen some say to avoid them all, while some say get the security ones. (And then there's the Linux Tips Project page linked above, which offers getting all of them as one of the "general fixes" for Mint.)
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>>52981489
>>52981659
>>52981829

There's no /var/log/dmesg.0 file. No dmesg file of any sort.

Anyway, I disabled Secure Boot and now it consistently boots, so I think that aspect is fixed.

Now it only crashes when I try to resume from suspend to RAM, or whatever it suspends to when you close a laptop's lid.

Any clues?
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>>52982374
>There's no /var/log/dmesg.0 file. No dmesg file of any sort.
Fedora uses systemd without an rsyslog legacy. so journalctl -k
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>>52982274
uninstall Mint and use real Ubuntu, so you don't have to worry about Ubuntu updates breaking your frankenbuild Mint.
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>>52982374
are you seriously using 3.1.9? If that wasn't a typo then I would recommend updating to at least something like 4.1.
Other than that, install a distro which isn't designed as a testing ground for a commercial product.
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>>52981489
Cinnamon desktop isn't a release blocking bug.
Fedora Workstation is basically Gnome OS now and pretty bug-free.
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>>52978709
>It doesn't actually help the developers any.
You mean besides making sure their code isn't used illegally? You mean besides being a self-funding source of legal protection? I mean, besides those, I guess the FSF doesn't help at all.

It's a non-profit with a tiny budget, and you're complaining about developers not getting money from them? Why do you even think this? They can't sue on your behalf without your input, so the developers must be agreeing to be represented by them (for free!!!!) and then donating or refusing any payout or they have come to the conclusion it's a lawsuit they don't wish to pursue and let the FSF handle it. The only way the developer could possibly be a loser here is if the FSF lost some precedent-setting case.

You're a fuckin retard dude. Tone down your autism, stop going to /pol/, or stop calling people jews when you're the one who's upset about money. Thanks friend.
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>>52982812
Couldn't get 3.1.9 to compile. I'm running 4.3.4.

Would Korora be any better? I really really like DNF and want to stick with it.
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How do I do a dropbox like file transfer locally between my windows desktop and my linux laptop?

I've tried git-annex but I can't connect my windows to my linux because there's not much manuals for the windows build
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>>52979269
>i just found out steam is DRM
people have been bitching about steam because of this since 2003

(13 years ago)
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>>52982976
nope, Korora is Fedora with some third-party repos enabled.
you could try Fedora 23 to which all developers already moved on and therfore will be better maintained than 22.
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>>52982977
not sure what you mean by "dropbox-like", but I would recommend setting up ssh and using WinSCP. You can drag-and-drop files across the two encrypted in transit because ssh.

If you don't already have or don't want sshd enabled on the laptop then you can start it before a transfer and shut it down afterwards.
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>>52982977
Dukto LAN file transfer perhaps
http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/dukto-lan-file-transfer-tool-is-easy-to.html

>brought to you by the upcoming linux software big list
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>>52983034
Dropbox-like is just drop file on folder then it syncs to the laptop vice versa

git-annex is perfect for this but it doesn't fully support windows right now
>>
>>52983107
Isn't that usually called "drag and drop"?
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>>52983135
Yeah you get what I mean. potato potato
>>
>>52983032
I'm gonna install Fedora 23 GNOME in the hopes that that will work.

Running systemctl suspend triggers the crash. That must be the problem.
>>
I just tried upgrading to debian sid from jessie, and I saw that it was removing fglrx-driver during the upgrade, so I installed the proprietary driver from AMD so I wouldn't be stuck without a driver, and I seem to be stuck without a driver all the same. I can boot into safe mode and access a terminal before the graphics load, but with no network access. Wat do?
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>>52983160
not really, your vocabulary is pretty off. syncing and transferring is not the same.

Windows native network file transfer uses SMB. Samba implements that for Linux.
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>>52983169
>Running systemctl suspend triggers the crash. That must be the problem.
nope, you are just describing your suspend bug in another way.
the issue likely lies in Cinnamon, otherwise if it's in the kernel or systemd lots of other people would have that bug.
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>>52979221
>but I want to have a nice dock at the bottom.
I couldn't follow this, it can do that. Try plank if that is the kind of thing you like.
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Pulse or Alsa?
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>>52983365
Thanks, bud. I'm using arch for development and educational purposes. I stick to the terminal a lot for most of what I do but for the times when I need to be productive; well, I need to be productive.
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>>52983371
pulse, so you can have different volumes for different applications
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>>52983437
>educational purposes
why would you care to re-create linux in the 90s?
not using a DE and instead some outdated tools that will soon break when there's no way around dbus, polkit, systemd, wayland, ... is a strange hobby.
>>
I'm trying to play this video for whatever reason, on my PI though SSH, The problem is some faggot decided it was a good idea to split it up to prevent, probably, 'piracy'..

I made a python script that gets all of the chunks and opens something like
 omxplayer http://jwpsrv.a.ssl.fastly.net/content/conversions/WT7AW4Wy/videos/MoGRAoii-17248291.mp4-11.ts

(notice the mp4-(number).ts)
The problem is, omxplayer stops and has to start up again when it plays the next file, Is there any way I can get it to play seamlessly?
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>>52983514
I really only use a few programs. Text editor, video/music though I usually use ncmpcpp for music, but I'll need office software and IDE when I start bigger projects and an easy way to access my browser when I need it.

Besides, I left all of the bloated and super functional operating systems because they're distracting as all hell. I WANT less. I want my OS to function just as much as I need it to and not offer anything else.
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>>52983558
also no mobile version of site, I already checked
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>>52983437
What I couldn't follow was that tint2 should be able to do what you need. Just configure it a little bit more.
>>
I downloaded CUPS and got it to work on my Epson XP-830, but, after trying to access CUPS localhols 631 I get Connection Refused.

Anyway to fix this?
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>>52983558
>omxplayer
install gentoo, then compile vlc
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I've been trying to get an arch chroot working on my RAZR M for a couple of days now and all I run into is problems. ld.so can't find libNimsWrap.so even after I've symlinked it, /data has the nosuid mount option so I can't use sudo, fstab is empty so I can't mount anything

Does someone have a thorough guide for setting up an android arch chroot that will start at boot?
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>>52984173
No, and why do you need chroot on a phone?
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>>52984251
It will be a backup openssh and openvpn server for when my primary server goes down
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>>52984300
>It will be a backup openssh and openvpn server for when my primary server goes down

You're gonna wear out the flash memory, you would be better served with an intel nuc as a NAS.
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>>52984121
>trying to play 1080p on raspberry pi with vlc throug cli
k
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>>52984379
>trying to play 1080p on raspberry pi with vlc throug cli

VLC supports http streams...
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>>52984400
So does omxplayer...?
>>
>>52984330
Why would I spend money on an intel NUC when I have a smart phone that can do what I want sitting in a drawer
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>>52984448
>Why would I spend money on an intel NUC when I have a smart phone that can do what I want sitting in a drawer
>wearing down flash memory cells
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>>52982232
Every DE technically supports it. There isn't much mechanical difference between a mouse and a touch screen and the Linux kernel supports touch-based point devices as you'd expect it to.

The nuanced, "does this feature work like I'd expect it to" kind of stuff comes more down to WM than to DE, and for that kind of stuff both are absolute garbage. Seriously. I say this as a diehard Linux fan - compare Unity and Gnome to Windows 10 and Windows just blows them both out of the water.
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>>52984448
>spend money
also if you're not gonna use the phone, then you could sell it, a nuc would be a proper openvpn/openssh server with fast storage for backups...
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>>52984400
>he uses vlc
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>>52984503
>he uses vlc
No, he uses omxplayer, but VLC is obviously superior.
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>>52984468
So instead of wearing down the flash memory cells in the phone to use it as a backup server, I should instead keep it in a drawer where it's cells won't be used AT ALL and spend hundreds of dollars (more than I've spend on primary server) on an intel NUC

Is that your best solution anon
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>>52984541

I suggested that you could sell the phone, offsetting the NUC's cost. The nuc would be a proper server and you could use the NUC's community support to help you setup whatever you want instead of asking in the /g/ '/flt/' on 4chan...

But hey, enjoy all the help you're getting now, pleb
>>
http://www.ebay.com/itm/172085194271

Stop being a poor fag, I found one for $100.
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>>52984521
>not using mpv
are you living under a stone?
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>>52984584
>lurks linux help thread
>shitposts saying to buy new hardware instead of fixing software problems
>shitposts saying I shouldn't have asked for help in the "ask for help" thread
>>
Slowpoke here, Fedora 24 is going with Wayland? Is it finally time? Who else is jumping over the Wayland ship?
>>
>>52984702
>shitposts

A lot of people are trying to run Linux on a desktop or laptop, but you're that one special snowflake that wants to load it on his phone, in a chroot.

Wew laddie
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>>52984702
read the sticky
not your personal tech support
4chan is about satire and memes
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>>52984725
Whats the problem with X?
>>
>>52984767
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIctzAQOe44
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>>52984725
>>>/a/
>>
hey yall im downloadin trisquel gnu/linix on a usb, excited as fuck.
>>
Solved the omxplayer problem, you need to:

>open terminal or tty
>type su -c 'dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sda'
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>>52984788
tl;dw
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I tried winSCP to transfer files from my linux laptop works great but it works like FTP.

I wanted a folder in my directory of C:\stuff connected to my /stuff and just put items there and have access on both computers.

Has anyone tried https://git-annex.branchable.com/ for windows? It works perfectly on 2 linux machines but I can't set it on linux to windows.
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>>52984789
Jokes on you, I'm a /g/entoom/a/n.
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>>52984814
see
>>52984789
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>>52984807
>tl;dw
it does nothing right (anymore, X11 is a standard from 1984, everything has changed since then)

if you want to know why or how, then watch it
>>
>>52984814
>>>/v/
also see
>>52984830
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>>52984807
I'd suggest you do, X being bad at everything finally makes sense.
>>
>>52984741
>>52930983
got the idea from this board, there's threads on it every week, faggot

>>52984748
/flt/ is a question thread. I don't need "personal tech support," I asked for a link to a guide
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>>52984814
there dokan on windows, but it's hit or miss

you're probably better off just using samba/mounted network share on windows
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>>52984854
http://www.tecmint.com/gentoo-linux-installation-guide/
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>>52984862
>>>/fwt/
>>
>>52984814
>I wanted a folder in my directory of C:\stuff connected to my /stuff and just put items there and have access on both computers.
use Samba
>>
Should I go full /gee/ and get linux on a w520 after my macbook dies?
>>
Do I need to do something so (my torrent client) can access/modify files?
>>
>>52984854
>/flt/ is a question thread. I don't need "personal tech support," I asked for a link to a guide
You need personal help. You could've asked for support in an android forum, instead you posted on /g/.

You need a link?

here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+babby%27s+hacker+guide+
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>>52984946
Just let your dreams come true.
>>52984962
Usually not, what's crackling?
>>
>>52982976
Why would you want 3.1.9, that's like 3 years old or something.
I would advise to move away from fedora and fedora based distros. Look at why fedora exists, I'm not exaggerating when I say you are a beta tester.
>>
>>52984962
You need a hard drive
>>
bye retards, gonna go play Dark Souls or GTA V
>>
>>52977793
Do the packages I install from AUR get updated when I pacman -Syu?

Is there a way to see which package is coming from where? Like yum does.
>>
>>52981477
Memory leaks out the ass on Fedora.
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>>52984995
>Usually not
I do.. >>52985034
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>>52985098
You need write permissions.
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>>52985098
What program are you using?
Where are you trying to save your files?
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>>52985080
You have to use an AUR helper, like yaourt, to update AUR packages.

So, you can use yaourt -Syua and that will tell you which packages are from repos and which are from AUR as you update.
>>
>>52985119
transmission
mounted USB drive
>>52985113
How to give?
>>
>>52985133
Thank you.
>>
>>52985135
>mounted USB drive
Is it mounted through /etc/fstab? What file system is it formatted to?
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>>52985135
chmod a+w
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>>52984923
>use Samba

Thanks, it works perfectly
>>
>>52985159
>>52985159
>Is it mounted through /etc/fstab?
What?
>What file system is it formatted to?
NTFS
>>
Alright so I'm using Tagsistant to organize all my files, and I used nautilus-actions to add a script to my context menu that asks me to input the tags I want to add to the selected files using a zenity entry popup. It works, I used it for months. But I recently reinstalled everything and now for some reason the zenity popup doesn't come up. If I start nautilus from a terminal I can see my script running and it just waits forever for the zenity popup to return with input. The popup doesn't show up anywhere. However if I start nautilus from a terminal, the zenity popup will suddenly materialize if I give focus to the terminal I started nautilus from. Any ideas why this might be happening?
>>
>>52985333
ensure you're using ntfs-3g

the in-kernel ntfs driver is read-only by default
>>
>>52985333
You need to should that USB partition first:

>lsblk
>copy name of ntfs partition, probably /dev/sdbX or whatever
>sudo umount /dev/sdbX X being the partition number, like /dev/sdb1 being the first partition of your usb drive
>then edit /etc/fstab
>sudo gedit /etc/fstab or sudo nano /etc/fstab
>navigate to a new line in your /etc/fstab; add the partition from lsblk
>dev/sdbX /run/media/youruser? ntfs-3g big_writes,iocharset=utf8 0 0
>save the entry
>make the mount point folder if it doesn't exist
>sudo mkdir -p /run/media/youruser?; sudo mount -a
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>>52985435
Perhaps the mount point can be /run/media/sam/storage or whatever,I dunno if it's essential that your username is used for the parent folder.

Mine is /run/media/tom/ntFS
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>>52985413
>pic
I.. I don't understand what 'half-installed' means... It's like, is you can't dig half a hole, it's either a hole or it's not...
>>52985435
trying this next
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>>52985464
oh shit, add rw to your /etc/fstab entry:

dev/sdbX /run/media/youruser? ntfs-3g rw,big_writes,iocharset=utf8 0 0

rw means Read/Write
>>
>>52985475
Half Installed, I've never heard of that but it's talking about Alacarte anyway, which is a menu editor
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>>52985475
try
apt-get install -f
>>
Does anyone have any experience with SELinux?
I'm trying to set up rtorrent+rutorrent on my CentOS homesever, but it's not allowing PHP to connect to the unix socket that rtorrent created.
It works if I run
setenforce Permissive
, so I know that it's definitely SELinux's fault, but I would rather not lower SELinux's security level.
>>
I installed ubuntu server in vmware. I installed guest additions.

How do I get the guest capture my keyboard input automatically, when the vm window is in foreground?

Having to click on the terminal every time and then having to press ctrl+G to exit every time is pretty annoying.

This is ubuntu server so there it's all CLI.
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>>52985622
http://yml.com/fv-b-1-619/selinux--apache-httpd--php-establishing-socket-connections-using-fsockopen---et-al.html
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>>52985386
I sort of figured it out? For some reason I couldn't use ~/ when nautlius was already running. If I killall nautilus then run nautlius from a terminal, then I can use ~/ but I still needed to export DISPLAY I guess and I'm ngl I have no idea what just happened but it's working now so screw it.
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>>52985475
ntfs-3g is already installed

with the usb drive mounted, run "mount | grep ntfs" and post the output
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>>52985670
>guest additions
I don't think it works in TTY. Capturing, I mean.
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>>52985689
Post script, maybe we can figure it out?
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>>52977793
Who chroot here?
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>>52985696
I.. I don't know...
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>>52985677
Didn't work.
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>>52977900
Is architect a nice choice for a linux virgin?
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>>52985773
>Is architect a nice choice for a linux virgin?
absolutely, arch linux however...
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>>52985762
https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/sec-policy/selinux-rtorrent

Never used SELinux, i'm sure the Gentoo users can help you
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Anyone here ever use TuxOnIce? Is it any good?
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>>52984788
She's thick af
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>>52985758
you sure it's formatted as ntfs?
the partition being of type ntfs doesn't mean it's actually ntfs

try "mount | grep sdb1"
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>>52978240
>Linux

'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
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Installed Debian on my laptop and couldn't be happier now. I'm suddenly less paranoid about my personal info being stolen or my system compromised. Formatted my desktop, now it's only used to video games and CAD.
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