Are used workstations/ tower servers a good deal on ebay?
Say you'd get a 8-12-core machine for 300-500$.
Lots of ram, powerful and gpu can be upgraded in most systems for a decent one.
Really interested getting one for creativity and messing with VMs.
I know most units are around 6-7 years old already and even in idle they use around 150w.
Not seen a thread about these workhorses for a long while so might as well be one.
Some models I've searched: HP Z 4/6/800 series, Dell 3/5/7500
i'm actually attempting to buy an hp proliant dl380 g6 for virtualization purposes. i've been looking at workstations too - and i'm just kinda weary, some of this stuff is cheap as fuck, what's wrong with it? like on the hp section of computers.woot there is a 300 dual xeon workstation. why are these so cheap. if i want to snatch a 48gb ram dual xeon server for $200 i want to know what's wrong with it.
This, what is the catch? New equivalents are literally 10 times as much, while being max 30-40% faster and power usage in idle halved. Not much else.
SATA2 ports and +2tb HDDs are kinda problem. Also some propietary nonstandard PSU connectors/ cooling I guess.
like >>52959834 said software support might be a problem aswell.
For fucking around with VMs cheap gaymen is a current favorite for "labs". The truth is unless your running actual high use servers 4 cores, 16GB + a decent SSD should be enough for 7-8 VMs if provisioned correctly.
if i want to snatch a 48gb ram dual xeon server for $200 i want to know what's wrong with it.
People who use workstations and servers with 6-32 cores and 32+GB of RAM are usually running nested VM hosts and are transferring VM on the fly between two virtual hosts. They are virt admins or storage wonks. Most of those guys do that on new hardware "borrowed" from work. Also those servers are loud as fuck, unless you've sat next to one for 5 minutes you won't even understand how loud and stressful the constant drone of delta fan imparts.
If your starting out just build a cheap 4 core i5 box with 16GB of DDR3 and 256GB+ SSD or upgrade whatever current system you are running now.
I did used to own an intel 3550 with 32gb of ram for use with VMs, and that was cool, I was running a few velociraptors and everything was fine. But to try to rebuild something like that now when I can buy a $200 server and get $20 10k RPM 300GB SAS off Amazon, it's kind of a no brainer. 32GB i5 whatever for >$300 or a $200 server with 8 hotswap bays, 2 server processors, 48gb ram, etc? know what i mean?
from what I've heard workstations are actually pretty silent.
I know that actual rack mountable servers are loud as fuck from experience and wouldn't event consider getting one. Know a dude whos servers can be heard from outside of his house 50 feet away :D
Price of new consumer HW is just way too high compared to these. 2011 could'a gotten i5+ decent p67 under 300$, try that nowdays.
Ram prices are now the same what in 2012 aswell, sucks to buy new stuff.
I own a HP Z420 and a Dell Precision 7500, and have owned a Z800 in the past.
Something to consider with the 7500 - In order to add a 2nd CPU, you need a riser card.
The Z420 is only single socket, but it's LGA2011, and mine has a Xeon 1680? in it, so 6 cores, 64GB RAM.
ram is dirt cheap, but you also need a case, a power supply, and enough drive bays to be competitive with the refurb server market. you can get 300gb 10k SAS drives for 20 each and throw them into a $200 refurb server with dual xeons.
Im debating either building my own rig for about $1000 bucks, or buying something used off craigslist or something.
I had read somewhere that you should value a used PC at something like 2% off every week it is used, so after a year, a $1000 computer is worth about $500 or so.
Give me a use for IBM power outside of Mainframes (which are dying and have been). Or an application for Sparc that can't be matched by x86 for the same price.
Protip: you can't
PA-RISC/SPARC are pretty legacy systems and even POWER8 has pretty poor power efficiency over AMD64. The R&D is just kind of lacking in comparison to Intel/AMD's. POWER has the potential to be really strong in massive scale HPC.
The most cost effective solution these days is buying 2 E5 2670v1s off ebay and a pulled SuperMicro board with a used consumer graphics card; I think it's a pretty good deal.
what in the unironic fuck are any of you retards on about?? is this really what /g/ has become?
why the fuck do gaymers still live in the fucking '90s when it comes to workstation hardware? literally the only real difference you'll notice in a home use case with >2000 PC workstation hardware is maybe a little bit less performance in real-time rendering
all over ebay, you can buy a well-stocked blade 2500 for around $300-$400
ultra 25s/45s are fucking highway robbery even though the only really different thing in them is the case and higher RAM ceiling
>Workstations should be strictly risc based and not cisc/risc hybrid.
Workstations have been CISC from the beginning, it was only in the '90s that they became predominantly RISC.
ISA has no bearing on the definition of a "workstation" anyway, it's all in what it's used for.
hahah pick one faggot!
>iterally the only real difference you'll notice in a home use case with
>2000 PC workstation hardware is maybe a little bit less performance in real-time rendering
and floating point errors because Intel can't into math.
the Pentium was never intended for workstations you dipshit, especially those shitty first-gen chips that nobody used except in large file servers, corner office boxes and small thermonuclear weapons
PC workstations didn't really come of age until 1995 when the Pentium Pro allowed Intel to attack the low-end workstation market and NT finally had some software worth running
Haha talking like hes a wikipedia article. Ppros sucked too. Pic related. I had them; they sucked.
Nice Magnum. I still have 3 Pentium Pro systems, their 16-bit performance was deplorable and made them unsuitable for average desktop use, they weren't really too bad at all as workstation/server chips, especially with those huge full-speed caches.
Most workstations that are sold on eBay are off-lease from bigger companies who renew their equipment every few years.
Here's a good deal, I offered $500 and they accepted.
This is for older hardware on ebay.
I don't know if the cooler is compatible or not
Dell Precision T5400 motherboard RW203 $30
2x Xeon X5355 - $30 (2x Hyper212 EVO = $60)
Case Free (use an old one)
Ram 8x2 DDR2 - $30-60
PSU Antec earthwatts 650 - $70-80
Total = $200
+ Dedicated GPU of your choice
nevermind, didn't realize you were shoving that shit in another case (why, just buying a whole system is probably the same price or cheaper and the parts will be much higher quality than that bargain bin special shit