Why are audiophiles extremely pretending like pic related?

>>52950999
everyone needs a hobby

>>52950999
Isn't the webm actually him regretting all the money he spent on that garbage?

>>52950999
Like wine tasting, it is just placebo. You can't hear a difference, but knowing that you spent a lot of money on it makes you think that it is better.

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>>52951128
>Like wine tasting, it is just placebo.

>>52950999
>me listening to Death Grips

It looks like he's in pain because he has the volume too high. Either that, or there's a dildo mounted on his chair ramming him at regular intervals while he listens to the music. I'm sure that dildo uses gold coated electronics and special oxygen infused flux capacitors.

>>52951156
>>52951014
Nope, he's testing some cheap headphones.

>>52951128
Expert wine tasters can actually identify ingredients during blind testing though. Audiophile bullshit is way worse.

>>52951157
>cheap
>2700$ headphones

>>52951014
No, he's regretting all the money his friend spent on that garbage.

Those are $2700 cans that his friend likes, and wanted him to try. He finds they're so harsh, even at low volume, that they're actually hurting his ears.

>>52951225

Nope, wine experts are shit too.

"In 2001, researcher Frédéric Brochet invited 54 wine experts to give their opinions on what were ostensibly two glasses of different wine: one red, and one white. In actuality, the two wines were identical, with one exception: the "red" wine had been dyed with food coloring.

The experts described the "red" wine in language typically reserved for characterizing reds. They called it "jammy," for example, and noted the flavors imparted by its "crushed red fruit." Not one of the 54 experts surveyed noticed that it was, in fact a white wine."


http://web.archive.org/web/20070928231853/http://www.academie-amorim.com/us/laureat_2001/brochet.pdf

>>52951390
Flawed study. The coloring affected the taste in such a way that the plebeian researcher with an unsophisticated tongue could not perceive,

>>52950999
>like pic related?
he's joking

>>52951390
Cheap red wine, and cheap white wine can taste the same. Not to mention that white wine can be made with red grapes.

>>52951390
It wasnt a plebian researcher who was tasting the wine wtf is wrong with you

So why doesn't /g/ do a blind test?
Blindfold an audiophile, give him cheap and expensive headphones, then ask which is which.

>>52951425
But would it have affected the taste in such a way that it would match a red wine?

I'm totally with you on the dye affecting the taste, but that stretches belief.

>>52951153
Top kek

>>52950999
Fake and gay.

And checked.

>>52951390
That "research" is utter bullshit. I once did blind wine tasting with my gf and we both were able to identify not only the "colour" but also the more expensive ones. The price difference was something like 3€ (8 and 11€ bottles) and we are definetly not wine experts.

>>52950999

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L34S4Tt1EuQ

>>52951390
>54 wine experts
French science everyone, an exhaustive sample size

>>52951540
That's placebo.

>>52951756
There is no placebo in blind testing

>>52951766
Yes there is, you get subtle hints as to which sample is more expensive + you sharpen your senses, which is something you don't usually do when you consume alcohol.

>>52951790
Well if you set your mind to enjoy a fine glass of wine (or a pair of headphones) of course you sharpen your senses to get the best enjoyment out of it.

>which is something you don't usually do when you consume alcohol
Many wine and beer lovers would argue

>>52951790
>consume
You don't swallow the wine in wine tasting you dunce

>>52951851
I do

>>52950999
>All those thousands of dollars wasted on cable stands, special cables, ebin magic crystals, 320k flacs and extremely expensive audio units.
You answered it yourself. It's buyer's remorse and the resulting purchase rationalizing.

>>52951851
Then what's the point?

>>52951679
As far as wine experts are concerned? Yes. There aren't that many around.

And yes, they're mostly bullshit. Can't even tell real wine from synthetic wine.

>>52950999
>expensive headphones
>plugged straight into phone

this guy is a memer

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It's not placebo. When you have a certain combination of equipment, the music produced is fucking sweet. It's not expensive to attain that condition either -- about $1500 and picking the right used devices.

>>52952257
>It's not expensive to attain that condition either -- about $1500 and picking the right used devices.
Yeah, which is why spending $15,000 on shit that makes no detectable improvement is placebo.

>>52952082
This headphones are easier to drive than your avarage beats.

he is not memer, it's the headphones that are meme.

>>52952029
To taste many different kinds of wine.
Without becoming to drunk to actually experience it.

>>52951390
>The experts described the "red" wine in language typically reserved for characterizing reds
That doesn't really mean anything, you know.

It's like if I describe a tea using coffee language, "This tea has a nice acidity amplified by the exquisite roast", doesn't mean I'm incapable of differentiating tea and coffee.

>not drinking expensive red colored in white wine while listening to kim kardashian using plastic sennheisers fired by a tablet from /cssg/

>audiophiles
>always 50+
>people who already lost a large portion of their hearing range

>>52951790
>you get subtle hints as to which sample is more expensive
That's not how it works stupid, except in flawed studies like the one you referenced.

>>52951270
He's fucking pretending.
>wow those $2700 headphones are so bad they're hurting my audiphile ears.
Maybe don't turn up the volume to 200% you fucking faggot, it won't hurt as much.

>>52952344
>implying old people aren't capable of hearing ether vibrations

>>52951573
I still dont know if he's trying to say they are bad, or if he experiences pleasure by wincing?? I mean, he's acting fucked up enough that either is possible.

>>52950999
>Missing the point of the video

>>52952294

Well, no, and yes. It is price related, but it is also not price related. People can buy an amplifier easily for $7000 because "fucking shiny" (Jeff Rowland) and that amp performs about the same as a Bryston POS-looking amp which funnels out a monstrous 500 watts per channel for about $1600, used. Different kinds of equipment produce noticeable changes in sound signature. It's a matter of preference, and some preferences are expensive, but not all, of the same quality, are exorbitantly expensive.

>>52952500
And then there are ridiculously expensive cables that don't improve the sound at all, in the case of digital cables, or have placebo levels of insulation if you aren't working around heavy machinery. Power strips that are "built like a tank" and make your speakers sound like they "gain another octave" when they have no active components. Or things like Jitterbug that claim to clean your power on the USB lines yet after measuring the output and finding no significantly measurable difference in the output still claim there is an audible improvement.

>>52952026
320k flacs would be terrible

>>52952662
I guess he was thinking of mp3s

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>>52952640

Yeah, well, the cables are bullshit. They do change sound signature "some" but the extent is pretty inconsequential.

Some people just want to spend money on cool looking shit that doesn't do much of anything except aesthetics.

And we all have experience with that frame of mind, here, don't we?

>>52950999
If it's gone beyond buying a decent soundcard and having a decent set of subwoofers/speakers around the room to hear an output of a dolby 7.1 (spending not more than 500$), then it's all placebo and you probably have tinnitus.

Tl;dr if you spend more than 500$ in audio set ur retarded.

>>52952795
no dummy, it costs more than $500

also, 7.1 is shit

>>52951014
Top kek

>>52952694
>>>52952640
>Yeah, well, the cables are bullshit. They do change sound signature "some" but the extent is pretty inconsequential.

Yeah no, if the signal is digital it will have litteraly 0 impact.
0101 can be sent through a million different cables, unless the signal is completely distorted and changes a 1 into a 0 or 0 to 1, it'll always be 0101.
Just don't put your cables near your personnal magnetic fusion reactor shielding and you'll be fine

>>52951156
kek'd hard

>>52951766
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>>52952861
I thinking more analog signal for headphones, like the Cardas, for HD650s, which "remove the veil".

>>52951157
Expensive.

>>52952398
Yeah it's not very obvious, but he's saying they are way overpriced. If you check out his other review videos (like the Beats by Dre, for example) you'll see he's a pretty chill guy and not an actual audiophile

>>52953595
also sas in the review on the website
>[...]but for $2749 these have got to be the worst price/performance headphones I’ve ever experienced.

>>52950999
NICE TRIPS

>>52950999
>ebin magic crystals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7s-Uf0eqPE

>>52951540
The fact that you even knew the price is enough to rig your whole "experiment" you dunce.

>>52954535
there was a time when nobody on 4chan had enough friends to justify having a facebook account

now is full of chads

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>>52954535
>20 subscribers
This woman even with no uploads has 88 :^)

>>52950999
>Why are audiophiles extremely pretending like pic related?

Why do people like OP feel the need to take a moment out of their undoubtedly dull and shitty lives to voice pointless concerns about other people's hobbies?

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>>52950999
Placebo of course. Whenever there is a double-blind test they get blasted to fuck, which is why they refuse to participate in them.

It looks like he's receiving a blowjob

>>52955165
what is that pic?

>this got out of /hpg/ and now people are posting this everywhere without any idea of the context

it's a fucking joke about how shit ultrasone is you idiots

>>52951156
>volume is the only thing that causes listening fatigue

>>52951485
pointless. there are headphones that cost thousands that sound like shit and headphones that cost $15 that sound amazing. what's good and not is subjective anyways. you would have to design a much more complex test. besides, many audiophile blind test have been done. on the whole even an experienced audiophile can't tell a good dac or amp apart (though some people can) but you would have to be very inexperienced or deaf not to hear the differences between headphones.

>>52952344
>large portion
it's not like there is much information at the extreme ranges for most music. I guess you could argue that you loose some "character" in like cymbals and shit.

>>52955165
but tyll spent like months designing testing of audiophile gear and had a bunch of people participate.

>>52955809
>listening fatigue

>>52950999
>Why are audiophiles extremely pretending like pic related?
He is joking.

>>52951014
>him regretting all the money he spent on that garbage?
He didn't spend a penny on that. It's a review unit.

>>52951156
>It looks like he's in pain because he has the volume too high
Pain because of the nasty treble peak those headphones have but it's a joke.

>>52950999
>Do you really feel it or is it just a placebo?
What is the question here exactly? Of course there are differences in sound reproduction gear, massive differences in fact. What many people don't understand is perspective here; what is actually something you should focus on, where should your money and effort go, what really matters to get the best sound possible. And this is where stuff gets complex as best is a subjective concept. Some people are after different things. Some people are meticulously trying to tune their setups into as accurate as possible and some are jumping from the new flavor of the month hyped up piece of audio gear in an endless cycle to "upgrade":

>>52951128
Wine tasters are actually trained, unlike most people identifying as "audiophiles".

>>52952082
>plugged straight into phone
Literally nothing wrong with that.

>>52952795
tl:dr ur dumb

>>52955809
>but tyll spent like months designing testing of audiophile gear and had a bunch of people participate.
Tyll has built plenty of gear himself. He knows a lot but edges between objective stuff like measurements and subjective mumbo jumbo like his numerous subjective reviews. He's definitely one of the more tolerable people in the headphone industry and I much appreciate his efforts are measuring gear.

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>>52955030
>could have posted any image
>chooses an ugly female

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>>52950999
>what he's actually listening to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfyNnUgK8qE

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>>52955875
distortion, from badly recorded music, noisy amplification equipment, or shitty speaker drivers, can easily cause listening fatigue

raspy or shrill tweeters or high-range drivers (JBL LSR 305s) also cause listening fatigue

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>>52956245
>defending memes with memes while posting memes from memegenerator

>>52950999
I got cheap audiophile headphones, they were priced "2013 diapason" for under 250€...
A pair of Fostex for 76€ (warrant and delivery included) never heard anything sound so good.

>>52956456
-priced +awarded
My bad, spent the day speaking my native language. Kinda got confused.

>>52950999
you can just about make out the volume ball on the UI, seems he maxed the volume

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>>52956285

>>52952694
I'm going to take a photo at IKEA for you, anon, they've got trash cans that litter ally look like Mac Pros and I'm extremely sure that that wasn't a coincidence. They're not for sale though, they are there for customers at the restaurant/cash register (wanting to get rid of the shit they just bought at IKEA)

>>52951390
that's because french wine tastes like cat piss

>>52956200
It's in that video comments section.

>>52956200
>ugly
You are ugly

>>52956655
fire the bass cannon

>>52957140
You would know, sick fuck

>>52950999
Have you noticed that virtually all audiophiles are old men? They have already lost quite a bit of their hearing, which is normal, but they don't want to admit it. It's a form of midlife crisis, they notice their own mortality and that it's all going downhill from now on so they pretend that those normal things that come with age don't exist. They convince themselves that they have incredible hearing and that they can hear incredibly tiny details and make up pseudo science to justify it. That's it in a nutshell.

>people still don't know that the guy in OP is being ironic, poking fun at muh $6billion dollar headphones

>>52957498
either that, or its because most people under 40 don't have enough disposable income or time to afford speakers that cost 20k

>>52957591
Sure, that's also a factor. But that doesn't change the fact that pretending to hear minute details in sound at that age is really silly.

>>52955392
it's pretty evident that's some genetic algorithm thingie running

>>52957650
>>52955392
Watching longer it's a genetic algorithm to write the gorilla warfare first line.

>>52957647

Right, because most symphonic orchestra conductors and musicians are under 25.

>>52950999
>Do you really feel it?

Yes, you do really feel it when it's inserted in the right place.

>>52950999
kek