[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vip /vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Search | Home]
4Archive logo
It is physically impossible to watch films...
If images are not shown try to refresh the page. If you like this website, please disable any AdBlock software!

You are currently reading a thread in /g/ - Technology

Thread replies: 53
Thread images: 6
It is physically impossible to watch films on 60 Hz monitors.

You may think you've seen a film, but in fact you only saw a jittery representation of it.
>>
i still enjoyed the movie :^)
>>
>Not owning a freesync or gsync monitor to solve this issue.
Why are you poor?
>>
SPV makes it batter than original so no need to watch jittery representation as you call it.

https://www.svp-team.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page
>>
>>52901822
can those even go as low as 24 Hz, or would you be forced to watch in 48 Hz? I know it wouldn't matter either way, but wondering how far along the tech is
>>
>>52901801
you shouldn't
>>
>>52901786

Who cares?

The human eye can't see anything higher than 1366 x 768.
>>
>>52901786
>2,2,2,4
why not
>2,3,2,3
is it even worse?
>>
>>52901864
Only 1,1,1,1 or 2,2,2,2, or 3,3,3,3, .... is correct
It's impossible to watch a film on 60 Hz.
>>
>>52901786
Not a problem on my 144hz monitor
>:^)
>>
>>52901982
24,48,72,96,120.
120Hz panels would fix this problem.
>>
File: 1442671558077.jpg (13 KB, 285x177) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1442671558077.jpg
13 KB, 285x177
Good thing this exists https://github.com/lvml/mpv-plugin-xrandr
As well as TVs.

>using smoothmotion
>>
>>52901786
Are all films recorded at 24fps?
Are some not recorded at 30fps?
And how do you find out what framerate the movie was recorded in?
Either way, it is probably best to watch on a CRT or in theaters.
>>
>>52901838
most LCD panels themselves can't be driven at less than around 30 Hz since pixels will start shifting to their off states if left alone much longer than that.

Gsync has AFAIK always supported arbitrarily low refresh rates by doing intelligent self-refresh on the monitor module.

FreeSync didn't initially support rates lower than the panel minimum but introduced what AMD calls Low Framerate Compensation where the intelligent refresh is handled by the GPU side, but it requires that a displays max/min update ratio is at least 2.5x, e.g., 30-75 Hz, in order to go below the floor.
>>
>>52902131
on the back of the DVD/Blu-ray case, it should tell you the framerate in tiny font. most films are finalized in 24fps, but the recordings might be higher if the need for editing.
>>
>>52902124
>As well as TVs.
I thought most TVs were 60hz and used weird interpolation up to 120hz.
>>
>>52901786
I watch 24fps films on my 25hz crt monitor.

I change the the framerate to 25fps and speed up the audio by (25 * 1001) / 24000, maintaining the audio pitch.

:^)
>>
>>52901786
That's why I've set my monitor to 72hz for past few years.
>>
>>52902131
>Are all films recorded at 24fps?
Recorded, no but for the vast majority the output is at 24Hz. Exotic framerates are usually a multiple of 24 anyway.

>Are some not recorded at 30fps?
Never heard of one. Maybe in the indie or short film scene.

>And how do you find out what framerate the movie was recorded in?
mediainfo | grep "Frame rate"

>>52902155
Some may do, I'm not sure.
Here's the output of xrandr for my cheap Samsung LCD-led that I bought a couple of years ago
% xrandr
HDMI-0 connected 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 160mm x 90mm
1920x1080 60.00*+ 59.94 50.00 29.97 25.00 23.97 60.05 60.00 50.04
1680x1050 59.95
1600x1200 60.00
1440x900 74.98 59.89
1360x768 60.02
1280x1024 75.02 60.02
1280x960 60.00
1280x800 59.81
1280x720 60.00 59.94 50.00
1152x864 75.00
1024x768 75.03 70.07 60.00
800x600 75.00 72.19 60.32
720x576 50.00
720x480 59.94
640x480 75.00 72.81 59.94
>>
>>52902131
theatrical films have been been 24 fps since the 1930s (when optically encoded sound started and that's the minimum studio could get away with that sounded OK on 35mm film) and were 18 before that.

99.9% of films have been 24 fps since then, with only a couple more recent things like The Hobbit (48 fps) being done experimentally.

low-fps will probably stay standard since high-fps costs much more to make and for various psychovisual reasons makes audiences more aware of FX mistakes and makes things look more like plays with crappy makeup and set-work.
>>
>>52902169
why not 96, or even better, 120 (= 24*5 = 60*2)?
>>
>>52902303
Because it doesn't support those refresh rates unfortunately.
>>
>>52902124
Any way I could easily turn this on/off to see the difference?
>>
>>52902082
144-120Hz master race
>>
Is Interpolation a meme or is it better?
>>
Just overclock your monitor to 71.928Hz and experience based 3:3 pulldown.
>>
>>52901786
>It is physically impossible to watch films on 60 Hz monitors.


Good thing my 4k monitor is 48hz :^)
>>
I have a HP monitor that when connected via HDMI Windows would set it to 60Hz but actually runs everything but the desktop at 59.94 instead of 60, only a few applications can run at 60 most of them have two resolutions which are exactly the same, so in some games I get two 1920x1080 at 59Hz instead of one being at 59Hz and the other at 60Hz which Microsoft says it is perfectly normal but when connected using DVI this doesn't happens and I actually get 59.94 and 60.00 and I fucking hate it and I'm sure it causes stutter in some games like Battlefield Bad Company 2 that get set to RefreshRate=59.939999, while other games run better like Killing Floor which is set at 60.00.
>>
>tfw you go home for the holidays and your parents have motion interpolation enabled for tv shows
>>
>>52902487

SPV does the trick on pc, depending on settings it my really make your gpu work tho, much better than regular TV interpolation anyway.
>>
>>52901786
then watch it at 72hz and stop bitching
>>
>>52901833
Ever since updating it, it won't use my graphics card for .mkv files anymore and my processor isn't strong enough to interpolate everything itself at 720p :(
>>
>>52902279
>and were 18 before that.
Not technically true
A lot of films from the silent era had different framerates...some would even go as low as 16fps
A lot of them had variable framerates as well
>tfw G-sync/Freesync could finally play them in all their glory
>>
>>52902487
Depends on how good the TV's image processor is.

I'd imagine programs which interpolate the video file itself which result in gigantic filesizes.
>>
>>52904226

Eh if you got amd gpu they have some stuff for interpolation in crimson.

If not, purge everything and reinstall or install older version.
>>
>tfw my professor told us that the human eye can't see past 24fps
I THOUGHT THIS WAS A MEME
PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS
>>
>>52904323
what class? because if it's biology then they need to be fired.
>>
>>52904311
Cool thanks, will check when I get home
>>
>>52904361

No problem, enjoy.
>>
>>52901786
>Has PowerDVD
>Suggested I use 24Hz
>Try it
>Framerate severely drags
>Switch back to 60Hz
>Framerate is stable
>>
>>52904323
24 fps is where you stop being able to distinguish individual frames, resulting in fluid transitions, aka a film.
Your professor most likely explained it this way, but you were too retarded to understand what he meant.
>>
I can't wait for movies and other video media to use 60 fps. It looks so great.
>>
It is physically impossible to watch a film

You blink every few seconds so you always miss around 30-60 seconds of every film
>>
>Have Plasma TV
>Switches to 24 fps
>Have projector
>1080p 24 fps

Don't tell me you fell for the LCD meme?
>>
Enable smoothmotion on a plasma tv. Great stuff.
>>
File: 1453519558935.gif (47 KB, 320x180) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1453519558935.gif
47 KB, 320x180
uff my chineese animus are almost all 30fps
>>
>>52901786
>60Hz

Why the fuck are you poorfags still using 60Hz LCDs?

120Hz CRT MASTER RACE
>>
>>52901786
Autism speaks, it's time to listen.
>>
>>52904226
I just keep using the old one before they went freemium, works just fine.
>>
>>52904639
You have been watching inferior video
http://blisswater.info/regarding-crunchyroll-and-1080p-streaming/
>What CR gets as masters is very often the same thing that TV channels in Japan get: HDCAM tapes. The resolution on these tapes is anamorphic 1440x1080, the same that basically all TV channels in Japan broadcast. The video is also hard telecined from 23.976 to 29.970 FPS, so an inverse telecine (shortened to IVTC from now on) is required to get the material back to the original progressive 23.976 FPS framerate.
>>
>>52904769
not torrenting your animos
americanfag detected
>>
>>52905024
Your torrented animus should be at 24fps
>>
What will happen if I feed a 24hz signal to a monitor? As in if I've got some HTPC or Android TV box and I set the refresh rate to 24hz.
Thread replies: 53
Thread images: 6
Thread DB ID: 515847



[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vip /vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Search | Home]

[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vip /vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Search | Home]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the shown content originated from that site. This means that 4Archive shows their content, archived. If you need information for a Poster - contact them.
If a post contains personal/copyrighted/illegal content, then use the post's [Report] link! If a post is not removed within 24h contact me at [email protected] with the post's information.