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Why is Japan so far ahead technologically?

Their companies basically run the camera world and gaming world and their phones were always way ahead of everything else. Why then has the iPhone taken off there?
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They appreciate the simplicity
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japan still uses flipphones and windows vista
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>>52897815

That's the beauty of it. They live with what works yet they buy all the latest stuff as well.
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Japan here. We work tirelessly that by the time we go home we just do not care anymore. We are putting our minds together to make robot women so we can die peacefully.
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http://japandailypress.com/windows-xp-phaseout-puts-13-million-japanese-pcs-in-danger-2042742/
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>>52897783
>camera world

That was a deliberate action by Nikon, because Japan didn't produce anything high quality at the time and they wanted to change that.

It probably worked because the Russians occupied most of Germany, which ruled the camera world before WW2.

>gaming world

They don't.

>their phones were always way ahead of everything else.

Because they spend a lot of time on public transport.
So they were OK with paying a lot for mobile devices to keep them entertained as they travel.
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>>52897881
Japan has Sony, Sega, and Nintendo. The west only has Microsoft.
>inb4 muh pee see ketchup race
Only autists on 4chan care about that.
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>>52897881
For a good while there East Germany had a large share of the camera market even in the west.
That all changed though after the failed 'reunification' and the subsequent state asset fire sales.
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>>52897894
stfu u lil sack of shit

Apple is the most popular smartphone brand in Japan

Japs love our white cocks

fuck yellow cursed people
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>>52897832
>Vista
>Works

No. Give me one good reason why you wouldn't update to 7.
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>>52897783
because japan is genuinely the best country out
coming from an australian, it's rare for me to not shitpost about gooks
but seriously, they are doing a fucking good job
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>>52897897
Cameras and lenses from Eastern Germany were poor quality.

All the skilled designers and workers escaped to the West.
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>>52897901
Are there even any Japanese smartphone brands?
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>>52897783
Corporate culture and probably tighter corporate laws.

Top executives can't simply jump ship with golden parachutes, which results in longer living and better companies.
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>>52897783
>their phones were always way ahead of everything else.
Until smartphones took off, then they were swiftly overtaken.
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>>52897939
Sony.

A couple of flip phone makers are trying Android powered flip phones but they they underspec them.
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>>52897915
>literally killing themselves off by dying of age because no one wants to have sex

Yeah, so great
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>>52897894
And who did the actual engineering on the parts used in those brands?
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>>52897959
>overpopulation is a good thing!
Africa and India are the places with the highest birth rates.
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>>52897959
The population is just stabilizing after the baby boom.

There's literally no way, no way at all, they would "kill themselves off" due to population decline.
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>>52897881
>>gaming world
>They don't.

They do. Sony, Nintendo
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>>52897927
Hardly.
I remember Prakticas being pretty good.

With some exceptions East German products weren't that bad, particularly those destined for export. They just couldn't make them in any significant quantity, and they were never the absolute best products.

As for 'fleeing' to the west? It wasn't nearly as common as you'd think. Most of their technology was squandered by the Russians (as war repatriations), who ended up giving it back after a decade and a half (when other countries had caught up anyway).
If their industry was allowed to run uninterrupted in the post-war period, Germany might still have been camera centre of the world.
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Japan, like German, they have excellent craftsmanship. Also the Japanese have a spiritual practice or some sort that appreciates simplicity. >>52897790 I have seen a kettle that has feature similar to Apple's magsafe, and sometimes that just nuts. But as we are in this 20th century where money is all things are dying now.
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>>52897902
>Give me one good reason why you wouldn't update to 7.

2D porn comics
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>>52898036
>they were never the absolute best products.

Exactly.
But before the war they were.
After the war Nikon took advantage of Germany's weak position.
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>>52897939
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Because once a large business is established with a working business model it is hard for it to be displaced.

It's rather abitrary apart from that.

Why do Americans make popular search engines?
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>Asians are breeding with blacks
Delicious mixed sluts are on the way boys.
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>>52897939

Sharp, Vaio, etc
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>>52897915
Looks like you've never been to Japan, you weeb.
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>>52898027
Sony no longer has their headquarters in Japan
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>>52898230
It's honestly not hard to see why he would say that. He's Australian after all.
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Japan is backwards as fuck when it comes to software and should study Steve Jobs when it comes to software and marketing. It's a shame because companies like Sony usually have great hardware but shit software. The place that birthed akio Morita which jobs himself tried to copy. A shame.
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>>52898375
If anyone wants proof go to any typical Japanese wrbsite. They really need some lessons in design. It's weird. Japan has always been a culture of priding itself in its hardware and valuing physical things, but then when they make something immaterial they just go full retard
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>>52898375

Not true
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>>52897783
That's why their companies are still living in the past and using business practices relevant in 1980. Most IT companies are running frameworks that the west ran 1999
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>inb4 they still use fax faggots
Fax machines are objectively better than email
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Japan is pretty good at taking a technology developed by someone else and simplifying the design process to make it smaller or more efficient. But for a long time they've been slow at adopting new technology at the consumer level.

For example it wasn't uncommon for small business to still use fax machines instead of email, or for people to still use flip-phones instead of smart-phones. I think it's a cultural thing where stuff isn't replaced just because there's something newer around, but is kept in use as long as possible.
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>>52898555
>I think it's a cultural thing where stuff isn't replaced just because there's something newer around, but is kept in use as long as possible.
This. The US has a "newer is always better" culture, especially when it comes to electronics. Companies spend billions marketing new shit that just isn't a worthwhile improvement on it's predecessors, but people still buy the shit out of it.

Hell, there was a report that flip phones saw a noticeable rise the past few years because they're so much cheaper than smart phones.
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Sony's Vaio software has always been awesome that's why people chose it over other laptops.
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>>52897783
>Why is Japan so far ahead technologically?
Is it?
>Why then has the iPhone taken off there?
Bait.
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Conservatism does not thrive in cultural unity and impedes fear towards technological progress.
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>>52897894
I thought mustard rice was a reddit thing
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>>52897833
Doing God's work, son. Will you also work on turning people into cyborgs so I can be immortal? You'll need it to stop your country from dying off after robot waifus become real.
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>>52897915
A testament to this fact is the number of Japanese ex-pats you see. Which is barely any, because no one wants to leave Japan.

Tons of Chinese people leave China; enough that there's a Chinatown in almost every major city in the globe. Ditto for Koreans, albeit to a much lesser extent due to the proportionally smaller population. Meanwhile if you see a Japanese restaurant anywhere outside Japan it's probably owned by Koreans/Chinese taking advantage of all the dumbass whites that don't know a Japanese restaurant shouldn't have Kimchi on the menu.
It's vexing because Japs are also the most western-looking (and therefore least ugly) asians, and for someone with yellow fever you'll probably never see them in the wild.
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>>52897783
>best cars
>best tvs
>best computers
>best cameras
>best console
>best trains
Is there anything Japan sucks at besides phones?
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>>52897915
japan is the most sex crazed country there is. There's loads of sex, just not women willing to sacrifice career to have babies
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>>52898780
>Is there anything Japan sucks at besides phones?

>movies
>tv shows
>music
>writing
>comic books
>animation
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>>52898780
Working hours? I'd hate to have to work 80 hours a week
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This quick casual documentary gives an idea on how japan companies thrived in the new era over the old ones.
It's about cars but it applies to other tech as well obviously.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3oe1yo
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>>52898815
>tfw 84 hour work week
>91 if transportation is included
Sure does suck working in a factory.
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>>52898814
Literally retarded. Their animation is second to none, as well as comic books. Music is quite good also, in a similar way to Western music (ie ignore the shit, find the hit).

They make pretty good horror movies, but I don't know about any other genre

Writing is pretty good if the poems and fairy tales are anything to go by.
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>>52898814
>Japan sucks at movies and tv shows

Ever wonder how many movies and shows the USA has ripped off from Japan?
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>>52898814
>>movies

can confirm. Their movie industry is so intellectually bankrupt that all you see now is adaptions of a manga/anime series.

It wasn't that big to begin with though
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>>52898858
So....? Great idea =/= execution
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>>52898815
"work", he says.
The average Salaryman's workday consists of 3-4 hours snail-pace labor, 5-8 hours of fucking around talking to colleagues or on social networking sites/yahoo, and frequent ~2 hour after-work drinking sessions.

True, they barely see their families, but do not operate under the assumption these people are actually working those infamous 12 hour shifts.
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>>52898860
Is that bad?
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>>52898875
I actually prefer Jap style to American style
Japanese tend to be more theatrical which conveys emotions better while American actors are usually Vulcan levels of emotionless
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>>52898893
I can't recall any worthwhile recent movies. The last good ones I saw were 13 assassins and Outrage and Outrage beyond by beat takeshi, meanwhile there are loads of manga adaptions which just ends up being mediocre and not true to the sources imho

Takashi miike which I considered the japanese quentin tarantino only makes shit movies nowadays
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>>52898917
I like manga/anime movies
They're usually high budget feature lenght anime episodes with awesome action scenes and fanservice
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The days of slow traveling information is dead. The copy and tweak approach is no longer working hence the reason all their companies are sinking. Japan should stick with making music instruments, cameras and video games. Everything else is a losing proposition. Having 10 meetings to make small decisions is killing them.
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>>52898912
I always imagine people who complain about American media being "unemotional" while Japan is so "expressive" is because they have some sort of mental condition, like Aspergers, that makes it difficult for them to read human emotions.

Kind of like how Big Bang Theory needs a laugh track to explain to the audience when they say a funny joke.
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>>52898955
Oh I do too. Pic related. Sort of good, but sort of a disappointment at the same time because they try to cram as much shit into one movie, which I of course understand is an artwork in and of itself since it's a movie. But what I'm saying is that it's not healthy for an industry. Hollywood does this sometimes too, or they make endless fucking sequels or rehashes of the same shit, but at least we see a lot of original shit every year
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I live in Japan. They're behind
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>>52897783
This is wrong. They still use COBOL.
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>>52898912
No you don't
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>>52898966
>I have aspergers and ADHD and ADDHDD
I swear to fuck all of those mental "conditions" are just made up bullshit that people use to try to ignore shit parenting. All 3 of the dumb fucks in my capstone group are on adderall for "ADHD" and pot smokers. Obviously they're all normal people with shit parenting that made them grow up into garbage.
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>>52897783
>Japan
That's not how you spell Korea.
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>>52898955
They suck. Unless you're into cheese like detective Conan, doraemon and shit like that
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>>52898555
>>52898579
It's because (1) japan has a culture of saving and not spending, (2) the economy is slumping and has since the 90s and (3) japanese view consumer tech as home appliances which you dont change out that often. It's why you see so many people still packing ancient laptops with vista or windows XP still
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>>52898073
What has 2D porn to do with windows 7?
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>>52898966
>>52898999
I'm Italian
We actually do convey emotions in real life through arm and hand gesture in what I gues northern Europeans and Americans would call "too expressive"
I know you guys make fun of us for it but you don't really get how deep this goes
Like the switch between Italian and dialect when talking and making actually emotional faces
It's just a different culture that was inherited from inprov theater in the Renaissance
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>>52898814
>japanese movies
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>>52898996
Yeah I do
See >>52899020
>>52899011
I love cheesy anime as mich I love cheesy movies
Too bad Hollywood gave that up
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>>52899040
Thanks for the fap material
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>>52899040
I know what I'm watching tonight.
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>>52898847
>japanese animation

The only thing jap animation has going for it is art.

Western animation is superior in every other way.
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>>52899073
noodles are not superior
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>>52899073
>>>/f/
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>>52899073
Western animation is only more expensive and jap animation is usually better anyway
Tthink about Tangled, which had fantastic animation but costed 265 million dollars
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>>52899073
If you're referring to modern shit that air on cartoon networks? no

if you're referring to disney, then top kek because they backed out of that business, but yeah when they still animated they did a good job, BUT ONLY because disney had massive amount of funds to actually warrant such smooth animation. If you compare that to japan they barely survive
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>>52899111
>Western animation is only more expensive
lel
I remember the pictures about the Simpson's Movie and 5 cm/s or whatever. One had a fuck-huge budget and looked like generic shit and the other had amazing detail in every scene.
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>>52897944

Japanese flip phones were already doing most of what smartphones did.

E-mail, capable (though limited)browser, applications and even tethering.
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How in the hell does Japan run the gaming world?

All the major gaming studios are from the Western world.

Japan didn't know dick on how to network gaming, and if it were left to them, we'd still all be playing single player games.


All innovation in gaming is from the western world such as physics, AI, etc..

Even during WWII, if Japan didn't steal their tech from the Western World they bought it from Western companies.
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>>52898392

Yew, Japanese web pages are perfect. Simple text based designs that provide infornation.

Compare that to our shitty web 2.0 sites with needless animations packed full of ads at 20 mbs a page.

Function comes before form.
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>>52898555

>Fax machines

Part of that is Japan's love of beuracracy. It get absurd at times. If you ever apply to a Japanese business or school your mind will be blown by the amount of useless information they ask for. You have to have a government registered seal to use as a signature even.

>cellphones

Part of that is because Japanese flip phones wre just as capble as blackberrys and early smartphones. TThey really took off around the iPhone 4 though.
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>>52897783

Currently living in Japan. iPhones are popular here but theres a fucking TON of "smart" flip phones, too.

You're likely misinformed about a lot of stuff. Japan is great, really great, but it's got a lot of problems, too.

I love it here though. Fucking amazing.
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>>52898847
>Their animation
Japanese animation is acutally pretty shit. It's a common misconception from a lot of weebs, mostly people who don't know the differance between animation(movment and how it flows) and art style. Most anime now isn't even drawn in Japan but in Korea. What's worse is that Japanese animators don't even make much even from those super popular shows and not only that but are also under staff a lot. I remember when Kyoani Studio was begging for pretty much anyone to come work for them. If someone ask what country is good at cutting corners when animating then Japan would be the kings at it.

>>52899086
>>52899106
>>52899121
And let me paint a crude picture for you guys. 1 episode of Family Guy cost more to produce then an entire season(12 episodes) of anime. Why? because animation cost way more money then art style, which is what most anime rely on.
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>>52899299
>if it were left to them, we'd still all be playing single player games.

Would have been great.
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>>52897881
>the Russians occupied most of Germany,
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>>52899386
Main reason why Japanese games are better actually
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>>52898076
>that shitty FOV on that camera.

I know it's a bullshot, but that would ensure I never purchase it.
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>>52897783
>own the gaming world
Only good game to come from Japan recently was blood borne. Nintendo is shit, they've just been remaking games for their lifetime
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>>52899365
>theres a fucking TON of "smart" flip phones
I wish you could get those outside of Japan.
My smartphone is often activated merely by jostling about in my pocket, and the haptic feedback from these incidents drives me up the fucking wall. Worse is when someone calls me and I accidentally disconnect them simply trying to pull the damn thing out.

Never had any of these issues with a clamshell.
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>>52897783
>bullet trains in japan have their own tracks
Meanwhile in germany our ICE 3 uses a linear eddy current brake that can only be safely used on a few tracks which limits it's top speed to 200km/h in most cases.
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>>52897783
>Why is Japan so far ahead technologically?
It's not, their technological sector is dysfunctional and is only kept alive by forcing the japanese tax payers to pay your cheap shit.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/11/japan-state-fund-offers-sharp-a-17b-bailout-nikkei-report.html
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>>52899515
They plan to have the new linear rail up and running (between Nagoya and Tokyo at least) in time for the 2020 Olympics.

The test track was already the longest maglev run in the world after it's expansion.
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>>52899305
Japanese websites are fucking awful. They have a ridiculous ammount of ad's just for 1 pages. My ublock blocks an instant 50-100+ ads on their streaming sites. And don't get me started on what they use for .gif on Pixiv, fucking Ugoira's.
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Male developers instead of SJW employees trying to be diverse.
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>>52897783
That guy is Chinese though.
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>>52897783
Why is their economy in the shitter for the last 20 years?
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>>52899370
>implying Family Guy is well-animated
It costs so much because of the voice actors.
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>>52898216
Sharps being taken over by foxconn
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>>52899694
Depopulation, competition, bubble economy in the 80s and 90s that burst which led to a lot of misallocation of resources and investment
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Their government and country promote, instigate and appreciate education far beyond many other countries.
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>>52899040
>first zombie movie in japan
>its a porno

why are the japs so based?
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>>52899218
Got ya covered
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>>52899822

Except in the Simpsons movie there's stuff actually happening all the time, whereas in 5cm it's nothing but fucking still images, it's like browsing through a photo album.
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>>52899847
Of course blobs are a lot easier to animate.
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>>52899515
>complains about 200mph
Come to Norway, I'll personally show you slow trains
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>>52897894
>2 companies that make hardware and 1 publisher
>runs the gaming world
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>>52899892
What anime is that
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>>52899847
>western animation has a lot of motion
Nice lies.
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>>52897902
Windows 7 was basically just Vista SP2 with a reskinned UI. Vista sucked at launch but you make yourself look like an idiot when you claim it sucks this far down the track. When I bought a W7 laptop I literally didn't see any difference besides a few cosmetic and convenience features.
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>>52899892

AT's simplistic art is a design choice to make it easily accessible for people of all ages, and as it happens it was a good choice because the show is enjoyed by people of all ages

there's also something to be said for the cost of retaining the actors of these shows which may have different cultural implications than that of japan
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>>52899515
>tfw coming from vacations, riding bullet train in france
>get into the vaterland again
>change to ICE
>RB speed 80% of the time
Such a shame.
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>>52899945
Not him but it's Gargantia. Kinda a B- anime, worth a watch if you like mecha-lite (mecha as a backdrop but not the main part of the show). I still haven't the whole thing but at least the first half is very drama-comedy-romance.

Read the synopsis it's kinda got an ok back story.
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>>52900040
>Windows 7 was basically just Vista SP2 with a reskinned UI.
>When I bought a W7 laptop I literally didn't see any difference besides a few cosmetic and convenience features.

the same is true for windows 8 and 8.1, people like to shit on windows 8 for the "horrible tablet ui!!" but as soon as you pressed the win key to get to the desktop it's exactly the same operating system with a few new features and everything else where it used to be, just without a start menu
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>>52900040
Saying Vista sucks is a meme.
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>>52899722
>It costs so much because of the voice actors.
>Seth Macfarlane
>the man who voices a good hand full of the male characters in his own show
>is the main reason Family Guy cost so much to make
Him and the rest of those shitty VA's aren't the reason. Try again.


http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2011/10/30-1/how-much-does-one-episode-of-anime-cost-to-make
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2015-09-08/.92622
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>>52900095
He's not the only voice actor in family guy. The other people are all fairly big names and certainly take a hefty chunk of cash. Much more so than Japanese voice actors.

But yes, Japanese animators are also paid slave wages, so that helps keep costs down too.
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>>52899983

The Simpsons movie does.
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>>52900095
>>Seth Macfarlane
>>the man who voices a good hand full of the male characters in his own show
>>is the main reason Family Guy cost so much to make

right, and as such every time his contract is up (or for any of the other major VA's) he can renegotiate his salary as much as he wants because without seth macfarlane there is no family guy

while family guy's quality has gone down over the years, they've done a shit ton of specials within the last few years that have a much higher quality of animation and are going to contribute to the increase budget per episode for that season because the budget per episode is derived from the overall budget of the season
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>>52900144
Post examples.
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It isn't, and it hasn't been for a while. They are ahead in robotics and camera technology. Westerns who have worked in Japanese companies note how backwards they are in their use of IT in their companies. Many Japanese people don't use a PC but do everything on their phones instead. It's not the technological powerhouse people think it is. It gained that reputation because they like robots and they were in fact ahead in things for a while, in the 80s and 90s. Not anymore. America is better in most things, and Taiwan, China and especially Korea are at least on their level in most things. The reason they dominate camera technology still is that the Koreans could not go in, subvert some of their engineers away, and replicate it. The way cameras are made, there's a lot of tacit knowledge involved that you can't simply copy.
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>>52900172
I should add that Sony has been losing money. It's not doing well in MP3 players, or smartphones, or TVs. People have switched to Samsung which are cheaper and yet better.
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>>52900163

Nah.
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Their phones are not ahead. The best smartphones are made by the likes of Samsung and Apple. Japanese smartphones might be just on that level, but definitely not better. And their sales are not good. If they were really so much better than everyone would be buying them, and as you pointed out, even the Japanese want iPhones because they are just better.
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>>52900140
>The other people are all fairly big names and certainly take a hefty chunk of cash.
Oh, some of those names didn't hit me until I actually looked them up. Yeah I see what you mean now.
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>>52897894
The West has many more important technology companies than that. You simply fail to know of them.
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>>52897915
No. It isn't. It's just a country. It's not that good. It's cool and different, but it's not the best at much by objective standards, and certainly not by technological standards. In terms of patents and innovation, in terms of actual sales of smartphones, in terms of actual societal adoption of technology they are quite behind the west, many companies still have paper offices with many Japanese unable to do basic things that we take for granted in the west. Only someone with an idealistic, fictional view of Japan thinks it's just the best place there is, like some magical land where everyone is smart and everything is better..
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>>52900172
>note how backwards they are in their use of IT in their companies

Which is why they still hand craft things like watches and cameras in Japan while Europe and America don't.
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>>52899389
Have you taken Eastern Prussia into account?
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>>52899564
Oh yeah that's another good point. The Japanese internet is disgusting and way behind. I hear that in Japan programmers and developers are paid poorly and treated like shit too.
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>>52900282
Hand crafting isn't always better. Their cameras are better because the companies know how to make better cameras. And if other people can't compete with you, you can afford the inefficient of hand craft.
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Japan is actually full of ass-backward fucks who still use flip phones. What you see on tech review sites and animu doesn't reflect real life at all in nipland.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2886532/japans-curious-love-for-oldschool-flipphones-continues.html
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>>52899305
You're joking right?
Rakuten
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>>52898780
M8 they usually don't have computer
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>>52898780
Having sex
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>>52899360
I'm just happy they've crawled out of caves to get official birth records and government issued numbers... This year might I add
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a lot of big japanese tech companies are only still around because they're basically tied legally to banks. the banks are set up specifically to loan money to them, the banks pour money in, they never see a return because the company isn't profitable, but it becomes a better solution to simply lend more than it does to let the company collapse and take the bank with it

their whole tech sector is on the verge of crisis, it's literally staring death in the face
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>>52898875
American temakes of anything ussually suck, only thing that's okay is The Office.
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>>52899365
Been here less than two years I take it?
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>>52900172
Boston dynamics is robotics
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>>52900222
They're not on that level. 85% of this shit won't make it off the island for a reason
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>>52900318
They are.
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>>52900318
>in Japan programmers and developers are paid poorly and treated like shit too.

There's nothing hard about programming. Only in the West is it considered hard.
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>>52901193
true, and same applies to creating music, art and game design

> prove me not with logic and reason, you cant
> guaranteed no replies
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>>52897783
Are they still iframing everything they can on their websites?
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>>52897783
Reality is japs are stuck in the past in their ui and programming in general.

They are good engineers of technology but not how you need to be today.
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>>52897901
Japs want to be white.

All those loyal to yamato died in ww2.
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>>52898036
I think it's just funny ddr was able to muster one of the most elite army after the war.
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>>52901637
As I said before.
The DDR could make good shit.
Their biggest failing if anything was making consumer products too accessable.

Like a significant majority of the population could afford a new car every few years. The only problem was that they could never produce cars in that quantity and speed.
It's not like western manufacturers were any better at making cars, it's just that they used better price signalling (which made the consumer feel responsible for not having access to a new car, rather than the system).

Their system might even be semi-viable now that automation is so good and things can be produced so quickly. That's an experiment to be conducted in the future though.
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>>52901714
Oh I see now, Fucking commie =^)
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>>52900549
Holyfuck, just went there and allowed scripts. That website actually managed to make my browser hang while it loaded.
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>>52897783
He's not japanese (probably chinese)
that's not japan (its london)
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>>52900549
>>52902776
Turned off uMatrix and uBlock and opened pages one at a time while paying attention to how much RAM firefox is using. Each page requires an additional 100 MB-150 MB of RAM, for comparison a page on 4chan uses about 2 MB of RAM. Why is this even allowed?
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>>52899892
We don't use as many korean slaves
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Japan's economy has never recovered from its 90s recession. Their companies are still run like it's the fucking 80s. Early 80s.

They will not be a superpower in 20 years. The only thing that could possibly save that country is mass immigration.
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>>52903226
>mass immigration
Germany, go fucking kill yourself. Oh wait, Merkel is already doing a great job of that by importing Muslims.
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>>52897783
They really don't, stop this meme, you filthy weaboo.
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>>52903312
Well, to be fair, Japanese population is really dying off. Nobody immigrates because most people are not willing to learn the language and Japanese can't even learn basic English... Considering how good their education is, it's nonsense not to be able to speak decently at least one foreign language.
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>>52903470
moon language has very limited range of sounds thus making it extremely difficult to pick up other languages, especially pronunciation wise
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>flash
>ie
>programs still are maked for win7 or older
you mean far in the past?
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>>52899896
>200mph
He said 200km/h.
200mph is like 320km/h.
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>>52903511
I think that pronunciation is your least problem when you can't create one proper sentence. I don't see in their education that much, but if in European shithole I live in is basic knowledge of at least 2 foreign languages (that's usually English and German) expected and taught in schools with laughable financing, something must be very wrong. I heard that you just have to be English speaker and you pretty much can teach, but I don't know if that's true.
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>>52903226
>mass immigration
No. Like every other country that has been experiencing shit birth rates, this shit is a fad and will end within several years. There is no need for mass immigration
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>>52897783
>Japan
>advanced
>most businesses still use fax machines and Windows XP on their computers
>general population didn't switch to smartphones untils fairly recently
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BEACUASE POEPL AR FUKCIGN STUPDDDI
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>>52903738

Pronunciation isn't the problem. If they aren't used to hearing a sound, it is hard for the listener to distinguish it and actually hear the world properly. When I took Arabic I coyldn't even tell how many words were in a sentence I listened to for a few months.

Then if you aren't used to speaking a sound, then you will struggle to form a word period.
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>>52903226
>mass immigration
>saving anything

[THIS IS WHAT LIBERALS ACTUALLY BELIEVE]
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>>52897983
>overpopulation is a good thing!
such a meme but we know where this Millennial trash stands.
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>>52905508
That image is hilarious. As if Hiroshima wasn't rebuilt using government money.
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>>52905668
Hiroshima is full of Japanese people.

Detroit is full of niggers.
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>>52905508
we could mass immigrate all the blacks and illegals to australia.
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>>52905815
>let's import Africans to our country
>what could go wrong
>they will save us with their high birth rates
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>>52905668
Here is a proper version of the image.

It correctly states that the problem is "diversity" (i.e. shitskins).
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>>52899299
I think he meant gaming hardware
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