Official Thread #050: The "Holiday Hiatus" Edition
My issues with 4chan are finally over. I think I was maybe silent banned. Couldn't really say why. Is standard shitposting ban-able these days?
This thread is to consolidate graphics card and display technologies discussion to reduce unnecessary thread clutter on /g/. Let's also keep the shilling to a minimum, no-one fucking cares.
Direct any and all questions regarding Graphics Cards and Display Adapters here first, including purchase and sale questions:
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In the news:
>AMD's new Enthisiast class Polaris GPU teased. Could cost as much as $1700. Probably just the cost of the prototype:
>"This kills the company"
>Nvidia releases is latest drivers for UNIX-like operating systems. Freetards rejoice!:
If you find any news, post it below! Try to get at least two sources first!
Budget crown:AMD RTG Radeon R9 380 4GB
Performance crown:Nvidia GeForce GTX 980Ti
/GCG/'s ChoiceAMD RTG Radeon R9 390
>I'll work on a pastebin for monitors. Suggestions are welcome.
Logical Increments happily accepts suggestions, comments, and criticisms.
>Graphics cards aren't technology
iGPU freetard plebs work fast. Thanks for posting!
I have a Rift on preorder (thought I might cancel if I get a Vive) so I am looking to get a card to hold me over until Polaris. I have a 290 now so I think a 390/x would be a waste. Thinking about going for the Fury series I have tried to research a bit and, from what I can tell, the Fury X is a little better than the 980Ti in some areas.... but the water cooling isn't well-received on /g/. It doesn't look like Sapphire's Fury is too far behind though.
I realize that the 980Ti is pretty much still the king of performance but I would rather stick with Radeon since I plan to upgrade again to Polaris when it is stable. What do you guys suggest?
Apparently dual GPU's are really good for VR setups, as the twin screen areas can really leverage the second GPU. AMD is still set to release their dual-flagship card in the next few months (Though I wouldn't be suprised if they scrap it altogether with Polaris so close).
If you get a FuryX today, its pump noise issues aren't there anymore. And in VR, you're generally wearing headphones the entire time. The only reason I'd recommend high end AMD is if you were looking for Dual GPU setup. If not, just get the 980Ti. Dual Fury's or Nano's wouldn't be a bad choice either. Though just keep in mind, A minimum 90fps is recommended by Oculus for good immersion for games. Its of my opinion that GPU's just aren't ready for VR.
Next generation Polaris and Pascal, however, should be on par. The 'just wait' meme may apply. Though your VR headset will probably arrive sooner than them.
>buy 390x a few months ago
>build new 6700k 950 pro etc build
>390x not really doing what i want performance wise
shit i need to buy just a 980ti don't i? my friend has dual 390s but that heat is a real bitch and his shit is loud.
I almost just bought a second 390x but after seeing allt he driver issues and shit he's gotten with crossfire i'm thinking 980ti is the better option.
I want a fury x2 but they keep delaying it and refuse to release and details sooooooooo fuck that
>Though your VR headset will probably arrive sooner than them.
Yeah, that's the only reason I am looking to do this upgrade now rather than "just waiting", haha.
>Apparently dual GPU's are really good for VR setups....
>The only reason I'd recommend high end AMD is if you were looking for Dual GPU setup.
Admittedly I don't know a whole lot about it, but I read somewhere (I don't remember where) that Crossfire/SLI support is still being worked on and that VR doesn't fully support it yet.
>Its of my opinion that GPU's just aren't ready for VR.
Yeah, I get that impression as well. I just want something that will get it running well until better tech comes along.
Thanks for taking the time to help out.
Obviously your options are
>wait for FuryX2
>Try to exchange your 390X for a 980Ti
If you had the money and want for better performance, why didn't you buy the 980Ti in the first place?
If you're keen for dual 390X's, have you considered going the extra mile and water cooling them then?
You don't need a full system loop. You can just have the two. With a 280/240mm RAD, you could cool them quite efficiently.
Otherwise, yeah, you'll be wanting the 980Ti. If you can't return the 390X, try selling it on instead.
i recently bought a 980ti. when i open photoshop or some fullscreen application, the screen glitches for a brief moment. parts of the image get scrambled, or there are lines all across the display. is this a driver issue or is the card dying?
it works fine afterwards, no glitches in games or benchmark.
should i rma it? if yes, should i wait until the warranty almost ran out or the card dies for good (maybe i'd get a brand new model in 2 years)?
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as a Graphics card, is in fact, a Graphics card plus cooler, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GPU plus cooler. A graphics card is not a useful component unto itself, but rather a part of a fully functioning GPU system made useful by the fans, processing cores and VRAM, becoming a completely useful component as defined by Linus Tech Tips
Many computer users run a modified version of the GPU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GPU plus cooler which is widely used today is often called Graphics, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GPU plus cooler system, created by computer engineers.
There really is a "Graphics card", and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the PC they use. A "Graphics card" is the main part: the component in the PC that completes graphics processing to make the machine more efficient. The "Graphics card" is an essential part of an PC, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete PC. A "Graphics card" is normally used in combination with a cooling unit: the whole system is basically a Graphics card with cooler added, or GPU/cooler. All the so-called non-reference cards are really distributions of GPU/cooler
Wait for the next generation. Pascal and Polaris are like 6 months in the horizon. It's a waste of money to upgrade right now unless you're on some potato card that cannot run a new game you want to play and in that case a cheapo stop-gap solution like the 370/80 or something like that is more than enough.
I'm building a mini-itx computer in a Silverstone SG13. Does anyone know of any 980s other than the reference that are less than 267mm (10.5in) in length? I want a open air style card because I've heard that they're quieter (or at least make a less annoying noise) than the reference blower style.
When the power delivery is the weakest link in the chain hybrid cooling is just to catch suckers. Full block or gtfo.
>best brand for pretty much anything that's not low-end really
Including mobos? Cause I got a MSI H81 for 65 europesos
It's practically brand new so I haven't had any issues so far
It is my opinion as well that gpus are still quite a ways off and estimate that unless you pay a grand a year from now for the latest and greatest poor people like me will have to just get by with what they have for 2 years until a gpu comes in the 500 range
Still no Pascal or Arctic Island in sight
What the fuck are they having problem with going into a smaller manufacturing node?
Those fucking years old 28nm chips are even more expensive than years before.
The performance is pitiful, unless you go for a GTX980Ti for a premium price.
>to gain shares back implies that AMD must be doing something better than its competition
Not gonna happen, the Fury series was an utter defeat in comparison to the GTX980 and GTX980Ti.
At best AMD always equals the performance, but at an inefficient level, meaning more power demand.
I see no reason to go for AMD, neither do 81% so.
Well, It hasn't even been a year for AMD. They released the Fury and 300 series cards starting mid last year.
Nvidia can do whatever the fuck they want. Its been about 10 months for them.
And as for the new node and 'muh prices', welcome to the duopoly.
>Could cost as much as $1700.
What the fuck. Is it a workstation card? Is it multi-GPU? I remember AMD trying to release the Fury X at a $1000, but Nvidia knew and reacted with the $650 980Ti.
i'll see if the next driver update fixes it, then i'll send a mail to msi. thanks
testing temps on the sapphire 390 while playing ark,everything is stock and the spikes in memory are me just closing tabs.
yeah there was a recall on that one model but it turns out others using the same chipset also crashed and burned
they make okay motherboards (most of the time) but i more meant graphics cards
There's you problem.
For real though, the 390 is a fantastic card, but its multi monitor power consumption is shit. Is Hawaii supported by AMDGPU? I recently moved to Linux and am using Nvidia proprietary drivers.
Is this a thread for monitors too?
If so, what would be the best 1440p or 4k korean monitor to buy? I finally satiated my autism and bought a 980ti but fuck if im spending another 600+ for a display
my fiance accidentally killed my entire rig(4790k & 390) and felt super bad so she funded my new build.
also I got it at micro center with a replacement plan so whenever pascal or polaris actually releases I can bring it in and get all $650 back. I can even meme wait for up to 2 years and get the full value.
the 390 was drenched, that was the real casualty. spits out artifacts just using windows and thats IF it even lets windows boot at all. my motherboard was mostly unscathed, but now my 4790k spikes to 90c literally instantly and throttles. Im going to borrow a spare board from a buddy to test it but im not holding my breath.
There is a difference.
AMD is trash at any category.
GPUs, CPUs, or look at their shitty hardware they offer in the laptop departement.
No science center is using AMDead products.
Look at their stocks.
This piece of shit company had its glory times in the past.
There is nothing to defend this company for nowadays.
just buy a used 750ti or 280x or some shit.
but honestly how much are you willing to spend? unless you're waiting for the 1080 or 1080ti you're gonna have long as fuck wait for a 1060 or whatever
is the ATi Rage any good as a collectors item? can it actually run games?
i bought this PC for 30€ with Athlon 1800+ and an ATi Rage Mobility wich i really only wanted for the case but now that i know the specs im kinda impressed its the famous ATi Rage
also now i can finally try and see if my old shitty hardware that i have works on this as test bench,
remember those big IDE connectors ?
The Rage was shit even when it was new. You can play old games with it, and I'm talking Quake 2 class or less and it's going to be slow.
I have an 8MB Rage Pro + AGP card sitting in my Athlon MP machine.
Oh definitely when you have such fantastic, moral, trustworthy corporations like Intel and Nvidia, right? Let's defend them!
You've got to be a troll, nobody can be that severely braindead.
Would AMD or Nvidia make there new cards unoverclockable ?
No? It just depends on the architecture as to how much headroom there is.
They set them at a low enough clock that all the chips can hit but high enough to perform reasonably well.
I have two GTX 770s collecting dust and now I know that they're beyond redemption after this year with Pascal coming out and all.
How do you guys throw out old electronics? Where do I go to recycle them?
Someone from Gigabyte said that the 970's replacement won't be over $30 more than the 970. It'll be a slight bump in price, but apparently the 970 will go for as low as $200 when the 1070(?) comes out.
you want new or used ?
New : Newegg.ca probably got the best price for you.
960 gtx at 314$CAD
R9 280x at 329$CAD
Used: lurk Craiglist and Ebay till you find something appealing! lots of R9270x/280x are sold used!
I just picked up an EVGA gtx 970 SSC.
So fuckin excite, I got it for a ridiculous price, and Ive never had a "high end" GPU
Itll be replacing an r9 270x
Is also my first nvidia card in a while
Anything is better than the Rage. Even my Matrox G200 and G450's are better (actually, they're both waaaay better). The only reason I have the Rage in the Athlon MP machine is I've been able to get DRI working under OpenBSD on it.
You could prolly play a few games with the FX5200. I have an FX5500 and played UT 2004 and a few other games on it petty well.
>Raja also spoke briefly about the makeup of the new graphics architecture. Featuring a new geometry processor, a redesigned command processor and completely new 4th generation Graphics Core Next compute units – the main component of all modern AMD GPUs – with “a very high increase in performance”. He also spoke about the new multimedia cores and the new display engine in Polaris. Which will enable gamers to record and stream 4K gameplay at 60 FPS with no performance cost.
>He also spoke about the new multimedia cores and the new display engine in Polaris. Which will enable gamers to record and stream 4K gameplay at 60 FPS with no performance cost.
>enable gamers to record and stream 4K gameplay at 60 FPS with no performance cost.
Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-unveils-polaris-11-10-gpu/#ixzz3zojnTJHe
I'd rather toss them. Seriously. I can sell my 970s because they're not that old or used (I think I only turned on that computer five times in the past 6 months), but no one would want two 770s which may or may not work.
It's an MSI Radeon HD7950 Twin Frozr
It's pretty fucking old at this point so due for replacement, but I was wanting to hold out. None of the fans are wobbling or anything, but it has to be them considering running CPU/case fans at full speed doesn't produce the sound. Sound is loud enough I can't identify which of the two it is coming from.
I just tested one and it still works. Going to test the other.
Both of them are EVGA 770 ACX Classified, but they're probably garbage by now compared to a 960. I don't even know who would event want these.
I thought recording and streaming with no performance loss was the whole point of Shadowplay instead of using OBS, yet my friend who wanted to stream Witcher 3 had such a severe performance drop, they were no longer able to stream and play at the same time. What's up with that? It was a 900 series card so it should be fully supported.
GIGABYTE Radeon R9 380X DirectX 12 GV-R938XG1 GAMING-4GD 4GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 ATX Video Card
Closest thing that matches your rec.
I don't think I've ever bought a GIGABYTE gpu. Does their quality compare? Or should I pay up a bit for some other manufacturer?
My 560ti I bought from a friend for 9 dollars just died, so now I need a new card. I'm going to leave to go to China for about a year, and I can't take my PC with me so it doesn't necessarily have to be that great.
I'm not leaving for another 6 months though, so in the meantime I'd like to have something functional. Would it be worth it to spend 100 dollars and get something on the level as what I had, or should I just bite the bullet and pay more for something better?
I'm currently looking at the various cards out there, and I'm running a 600w PSU, so i'm not sure if I have the leeway to support a R9 390, so maybe something like the R9 380?
Additionally, my motherboard's chipset is only PCI express 2.0.
I haven't bought a new card since 2009, so I'm absolutely out-of-touch with modern graphics hardware.
you absolutely have enough wattage for a 390, a good 500 watt would be sufficient. that being said, i would recommend going a little lower on the chain if you are only going to be using it for about 6 months. a year and a half from now all the new cards will be out and be cheaper than launch.
right now get a gtx 960, 950, r9 380 or 280
they would all be stronger than that 560ti and when you leave for china you can sell your pc and get yourself a laptop or have it save for your new rig when you get back.
Has there been any news whatsoever on the next gen cards in the past week or so?
Currently using my laptop to do anything and I'm so tempted by the 980 Ti if it's true that we won't see anything decent until September.
Thanks for the response, man.
I'll look into your recommendations.
At first glance, the 960 and 380 seem to be about what I'm looking for in terms of price. ( Approx. 200 USD) Normally I'd prefer Nvidia, but all the 960s I'm seeing have primarily HDMI ports, and neither of my 16:10 monitors support it so I think I'm leaning towards the 380s as of right now.
I would normally consider a laptop but I currently have a Microsoft Surface Pro 2 tablet/laptop that I got from my grandparents a couple years back. I imagine if there's anything I want to play that it can't handle I can go to a PC Cafe and play it.
>tfw bought a 290x a year ago
>tfw excited for polaris
Although really I don't play at above 1080p and theres really nothing my 290x still can't max out to this day. 290x is literally the 8800gtx of our time
sapphire is usually the go to for amd similar to evga for nvidia, but if you can find an msi r9 280 or 280x get that. i've seen 3 or 4 and owned one myself and my god that card clocks well and the cooler is a beast and near silent even under load. i dont know how they did it.
So, I'm currently sitting on a 1GB 6950(flashed to 6970).
What would be the wisest and most wallet friendly decision to make right here? I don't need some massive powerhouse or anything, but really, it's the 1GB of VRAM that is bothering me the most.
I'd really hate to get fucked on vram again down the road.
And I'd like to stick with AMD if possible.
When I first started looking for a new card, I originally went to the 370, but everything does seem to point at the 380.
I was looking for at least 3GB of VRAM, but I see 4 much more often.
Is there a sizable enough difference between the 380 and the 380x where it might be worth it to get the latter, or is it mainly just for milking more money out of people?
hey /g/ im looking for a gpu in the mid range level
as of right now its between a 780 ti and a 970
the 780 ti would be [spoiler]used[/spoiler] which idk if its a bad thing or not
and the 970 would probably be brand new
i checked benchmarks and theyre about the same
price is about the same
only difference i can really tell is the 780 ti has 3gb vram and the 970 has 4gb (but actually 3.5 if i understand correctly)
anyways what do you guys think i should get
or 3rd option, just wait it out for pascal and buy a [spoiler]ps4[/spoiler] in the meantime
The 380x is faster, but from a raw price vs performance perspective it isn't worth it (take note that price vsp erformance always favours lower end cards).
If you just want 3gb of vram and don't care about the likes of freesync look into getting a cheap (and naturally, used) 280 or 280x. Both have 3gb of vram and are plenty fast even today.
The 390 annihilates a 380x and custom cooling is only worth it for balls to the wall overclocks.
>Still running 7 year old CPU and RAM
>Q9650 and 8gb DDr2 RAM
>Haven't changed gpu since 2010
Zen, Polaris and Pascal better be worth the fucking wait.
Not being retarded is one of them. Just because a game supports supersampling doesn't mean you should turn it on when you are running at 4k.
Pic semi-related, my overclocked 290x. If I turn SSAA off my framerate doubles.
Got an i5 6400 build still GPU-less due to budget. I'm just planning to get a mid tier one, like a 960 due to its very very low power consumption. Pascal promises twice performance/watt. Should I wait? All I really want is a good GPU that doesn't eat a bunch lot of watts and costs a decent amount
>tfw i have an i5 2500 and the amd hd 5750
IT FEELS BAD MAN
the wait for pascal is around 6-8 months, 5-6 month wait for polaris.
>do i want to be gpuless for ~7 months so i can save a few pennies each month or should i just buy a 960?
the choice is yours.
That specific screencap was done as a stress test for temperature reasons. Still if you aboslutely refuse to turn down settings 1) you are retarded and 2) will need multiple cards.
Freesync would be nice just to avoid tearing and all that, but it isn't an absolute must, I suppose.
3GB was mainly just 2 because seemed like too small of an upgrade to make.
Looking around, there's a Power Color 380 that's going for just over $160 after rebate, but not only have I not heard a terribly lot about the brand, the feedback doesn't look very good at all.
There's an MSI one that looks decent (and the same maker as my current), and also a Sapphire that is priced the same but with a small rebate I could try for; It's also clocked ever so higher stock (really not a big deal) and has a backplate (of which I'm really not sure is the point of).
Do the new r9 300 series cards have hardware encoders for gameplay recording like nvidia and shadowplay?
I'm thinking of getting a 960 for shadowplay but the 380x looks to be the better performer.
I use two overclocked 290X 8GB because they are some of the best price/performance at the high end and they still aren't enough for my gaming. Even with a 390X equaling or bettering the GTX 980 in quite a few new games I don't really find it all that impressive. I would wait for nvidia and amds next to come out and see if you could get at least or better performance for a single card as the 290/390 in crossfire. Because honestly even those are a waste at this time. All the GPUs on the market suck.
1440p, max settings is not feasible for all AAA titles, they are just not optimized enough to even handle their own settings.
Asrock H81M-VG4 R2.0 master race reporting in. Never understood why people go for more expensive motherboards for a standard non-overclockable CPU and single GPU builds.
will anyone be willing to help me overclock my 970 what are some good clock speeds to start I have a FTW, yeah i've tried google but apparently it just doesn't work every time i change something it doesnt change
buy the cheapest 4gb r9-380 you can find they can be had for 160$
if you have a dual core cpu then get a 2gb 960 it cant use 4gb so dont buy that version unless its the same price as the 2gb ones
>there's a Power Color 380
I've got that one, I was initially going to get another brand, possibly MSI, can't remember now, but it was out of stock. So I got stuck with Power Color.
The only issue I have is with games that don't have v-sync and render at 500fps, there's a very very quiet coil whine. I didn't notice it at first. But all is fine because whereas prior to this setting options in Catalyst for v-sync did fuck all for those games in most cases, now you've also got target frame rate control in Crimson's Radeon Settings that does seem to work. Besides, I saw a lot of people reporting coil whine with other brands as well.
Can't comment on the other ones as I don't know much about them. Don't have anything against Sapphire, my last card was Sapphire and I've got no complaints.
Fingol here, is there any place i could buy a 980ti from a reputable brand that doesn't cost 700+ euroshekels? I could get a club3d one for 650, but club3d seems a bit shifty to me and reviews vary in opinion.
There is nothing wrong with Club3D, but if shekels matter to you, you should wait for Polaris/Pascal or be reasonable and buy a 390/970. 75% of the performance for 50% of the price.
Went from a 7970 to a 390. Was it a good idea? I'm having second thoughts because of the "You should wait for Pascal and Polaris" meme. Wasn't it better to wait for a rebrand of them so they iron out the damned things?
If it was a 7970 GHz (this means, a 280x) you made a sidegrade, as the 390 is a 290x. Yeah, you got improved performance but I don't think it was worth the price you paid for it.
stupid question inc: is an i5 2500k (OC'd to 4,4ghz) a bottleneck for high end gpu's?
Shadowplay can record and Stream almost performance free at most you will get 2 or 3 FPS drop, the problem with Streaming using this type of hardware including the AMD and Intel equivalent is that they require higher bitrates to display the same quality as a stream using x264 enconding.
AMD's stocks are free falling, they are not worth a penny now.
It looks bleak. If Polaris and the Zen platform would be more promising beyond marketing slogans, it would look different with the stocks.
Totally useless, and Fury needs more energy.
Engineering is all about efficiency.
I have a smaller monitor that only goes up to 1600x900, currently have a GTX 660 but am thinking of upgrading to a 960 or 970. Would the performance boost from 960 to 970 be worth the price at such a low resolution? Would the performance boost from 660 to 960 be worth it?
>Would the performance boost from 960 to 970 be worth the price at such a low resolution?
>Would the performance boost from 660 to 960 be worth it?
Is there something you want to play but currently cannot?
In any case, the 960 is beaten really bad by the R9 380 at the same price point.
>In any case, the 960 is beaten really bad by the R9 380 at the same price point.
Yeah, I was looking at that one, too. Just weighing my options right now with my tax refund coming in. There's not really anything I can't play right now that I want to, it's more just looking for a performance boost and future-proofing.
If I do squander my dollars on a GPU the 380's probably the one I'll go for. Thanks.
can a msi gtx750ti handle a core OC of +107mhz and memory clock of +70mhz since it's only powered through the pci-e slot and such? also i hear some weird buzzing every now and then and i think it's the gpu. any way for me to be sure?
>I know that feel
Still running Core i5 2500K, 16 GB DDR3 and OC Radeon HD7870 on my main and Core 2 Quad Q9550 8GB DDR2 and Geforce 8800 GT on my secondary.
>the Fury series was an utter defeat in comparison to the GTX980 and GTX980Ti.
Bollocks, the Fury trumps the 980 easily both stock and when OC'd in DX11 and is much better in compute or DX12.
The Fury-X matches the 980-ti at stock but admittedly falls short at DX11 if you get a good OC on the NVidia.
From personal experience it's minimal, check the benchmark image if you want more exact figures. Can't compare to shadowplay though since I've never used it.
>Two Open-Box 370's on sale for $110
>Consider buying them simply for the value
>Wake up next morning to find that they're gone
Hold me /gcg/, they were the ones that got away......
one questions friends
using pic related
i have noticed that at max settings 1080p i get drops to 50fps in games like rise of tomb raider witcher 3 which shouldn happen with that rig at 1080p
then i remembered the card has 2 8 pin slots and im using 1 8 pin and on 6 pin cord to power it. worked fine so far
could this have anything to do with occasional frame drops?
I want to stick a graphics card inside this office PC since the IGP is terrible. I intend on using this system for vidya and semi-moderate 3D stuff.
What kind of concerns and considerations should I be thinking about? How bad will the CPU bottleneck be, 5 or 50 FPS difference? I ask b/c the last time I touched PC hardware was eons ago when AGP GPUs were still a thing.
My eyes are on the GTX 750 Ti but something under $120 and can play modern games would be nice.
This system has a 300W PSU but I'd like to keep the power usage under 225-250W
>>Apparently dual GPU's are really good for VR setups....
>>The only reason I'd recommend high end AMD is if you were looking for Dual GPU setup.
>Admittedly I don't know a whole lot about it, but I read somewhere (I don't remember where) that Crossfire/SLI support is still being worked on and that VR doesn't fully support it yet.
Support for VR with SLI/xFire should improve greatly when DX12 hits the scene
But I want to play games.
When the fuck are those GPUs are coming out?
5870 HD. But I think it is giving up the ghost. I have problems on the desktop. So for now have to use pic related.
Alright, how about temporarily getting a 750 Ti and then selling it on CraigsList after it comes out for 60-85% of it's original cost?
I'm sure the savings you get on power would cover the loss, and the fun you get out of using it would probably be worth it.
I rather bite the bullet and sit tight until the fucking thing came out.
So much for having fun.
>EKWB has blocks for the Fury X
will AMD ever get heat/power consumption under control?
I've been thinking about where to go next (currently on 2x 7870ghz) but the heat and power draw of the 390 would basically mean I have to buy a new PSU or use one I have on the very edge of it's capacity.
also I generally want to lower my power consumption when possible. I have 3 monitors, and an HTPC/home server which is hooked up to a plasma and yet another monitor pretty much always running, so I use a lot of power as is.
high end MSI mobos are amazing, or they used to be. they had some crazy designs in past. low tier MSI mobos are trash, avoid them.
>actual water flow over the VRMs
That alone is worth it as GCN is a thirsty beast of an architecture and cooling the power delivery is often a weakness of many coolers, including AMD's own fury x cooler.
I still think AMD should've made the shroud slightly bigger, put in a full cover block asnd then slapped a 240mm rad on the thing, but cost and people screaming about needing a 240mm rad on their stock clocked cpus would make it end...poorly.
Lmao, this thread is still going
Eat shit freetard, go buy your poorfag cards somewhere else. If you're so poor, why didn't you just stick with your iGPU?
Which country? Try logicalincrements.com for a price tier.
As long as you don't go for a cheap HIS or PCS card, or any cheap cooler, should be A-OKAY my friend.
Wouldn't recommend overclocking a 750Ti at all. Best way to test for coil whine is to just get close while its running. Take off your side panel, if the whine is high pitched enough and you're not completely deaf, you should be able to pin point the sound.
As for Over clocking, the only way to see if it will work is to do the over-clock and benchmark it. Try Firestrike and Unigene Heaven. If you're getting artifacting, bring your clocks back down. If not, then you're all good. If you crash, good luck reseting the BIOS.
You can't. With Intel's current business model it's useless trying to future-proof you motherboard. You might want to go directly to a Skylake system but it's much more expensive and Intel will do yet another socket change (for no reason) way before your time upgrade anyway. With such jews, it's a race you cannot win.
I just noticed Shadow of Mordor was pushing 4090mb of VRAM on my GTX 970 staying above 70 FPS without problems and good frametimes only dropping to 50FPS for one second or less when loading a new zone, before it would stay at around 3700mb.
What other games push more than 4GB?
I'd like to test more.
Just so you get some perspective on the matter, most people in here are still rocking systems with 1st, 2nd and 3d gen Core i CPUs and they still can keep up with current tech, especially Sandy and Ivy K CPUs. Those are TWO socket changes away.
You will not be able to run games in 1440p 60fps unless you buy 3 or 4 high end GPUs and put them in SLI.