>there is literally no reason for this to happen >Intel

>>52887771
>What reasons do you faggots have to not switch to AMD?
They're dead Jim.

>just buy the K series XD
>OMG you're not entitled to an unannounced feature XD

The damage control from Goyintel basically boils down to this.

Because AMD processors are dogshit. More news at 11.

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>>52887816
not yet. They still have one last ride.

Man, that's complete horse shit.
Typical jew move on Intel's part.

>>52887771
oh my fucking god this is so fucking amazing. Screen-capped for intel tears in future threads.

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>>52887771
>voluntary

>>52887771
>we do not recommend overclocking processors that have not been designed to do so
Oh, so they only mean every single CPU ever made ever? Overclocking is not a CPU feature, it's the user pushing the device beyond its rated capabilities at the risk of instability, otherwise they may as well have just clocked it faster to begin with.

>>52888207
wtf is overclocking?

So if you buy this processor, meaning you own it, you can't do this overclocking thing? It's your property though

Wouldn't that be like buying a car and the manufacturer releases an update after you buy it that sets the max speed at 80 even though it can potentially go 100?

>>52888300
>Wouldn't that be like buying a car and the manufacturer releases an update after you buy it that sets the max speed at 80 even though it can potentially go 100?

Anon, car manufacturers basically already do that.
Some cars need you to buy software updates to unlock certain components.

>>52887771
I'll happily switch over to AMD when they start making decent processors.

Anything they have right now just doesn't measure up.

I'm still on a 2500k with no incentive whatsoever to upgrade or switch over to AMD.

>>52887771

Fucking Jewtel.

Goyim doing things with their purchased hardware that we don't allow! Making our inflated 'overclockable' chips look like a sham? SHUT IT DOWN!

FX-8370 with Wraith Cooler costs only 194€ and can easily be OC'ed to 5+ GHz.
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/AMD-FX-Series-FX-8370-8x-4-00GHz-So-AM3--BOX-Wraith-Cooler_1029583.html

The cheapest OCable i5 is the i5-4670K that costs 251€
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Intel-Core-i5-4670K-4x-3-40GHz-So-1150-BOX_853872.html
but you with still need 212 Evo for 30€ since the stock cooler is shit and you have to pay 50€ premium for a board that supports OC.


194€ vs 331€

Intel is finished.

>>52887771
>dumb goys oc processors that wasn't meant to be oc'ed
>have to pay out pockets when the chips starts dying

>>52888380
>clock speed is all that matters
>what is instructions per cycle

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>>52888403
>>52888380

I really want Intel to release a single core CPU with hyperthreading clocked at 4ghz stock and unlocked, on a 7nm process.

It would just be such sweet justice to watch it blow at gaming despite all the claims of "muh single currr perfurrrmance"

>>52888520
It wouldn't perform much differently nowadays since the GPU is used much more than the CPU. Hell, game devs can't even seem to program multicore games well.

>>52888520
but most games use 2 cores, so at that point the unlocked Pentium chip does what you are asking

>>52888520
You are a fucking retard, ofcourse a single core cpu would get blown away by decent quad cores.

However, a quad core with high single core performance will blow away an octa core with low single core performance as most game related workloads because almost no game uses more than 4 cores.

Your argument from an extreme standpoint (1 core) proves nothing

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>>52888692
That one is awful.

>>52888692
The G3258 performs like shit in most big games released in the past year though. "Most" big budget games now use 4 or more cores. Some like Far Cry 4 scale extremely well with 8+ cores. The "hurr games only use two cores at most" meme is dead.

And you can thank AMD's shitty CPUs for that. Games are becoming more multi-threaded because the new consoles have shitty laptop CPUs with 8 cores.

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>>52887771
>AMD

>>52888742
The fact that is a dual core CPU and that it doesnt have AVX because intel cheaped out.

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Never forget

>>52888804
What's shills

>>52887771
and I'm just sitting here still comfy on my i7 870.
Lynfield was the last good architecture from Intel, after that they went full jew.

>>52888520
>single core CPU with hyperthreading

You want a Pentium 4?

>Intel is literally Hitler

Intel did nothing wrong

>>52889060
but in Skylake flavor.

>>52889101
>but in Skylake flavor.
Just get a Skylake Pentium and overclock it after you disable one of the cores.

>>52888636
>>52888692
>>52888731

This is how behind the times intel users are.

Name one modern AAA game engine that doesn't thread the absolute shit out of itself.

>>52889140
>Name one modern AAA game engine that doesn't thread the absolute shit out of itself.

Ren'Py

Anyone advocating the use of a dual core CPU in 2016 is a complete retard.

>laptops not withstanding.

>>52889115
>and overclock it

OP's pic very much related.

>>52889176
You can also take a i5-6600k and disable 3 cores.

>>52889176
oops, I'm an idiot, why not reflash to an older bios?

Intel actively supports sjws, don't support them

>>52889162
>laptops not withstanding.

Dual core laptop CPUs often cost more than their faster, more power hungry counterparts...

>>52888326
I've never actually heard of this

>12 year olds overclock their processors for dat placebo
>they fry their shit
>mom calls support and demands a new chip

And yet intel is the bad guy.

>>52887771
>there is literally no reason for this to happen
Of course there is: Money. But tell me, what would you do if you overclocked your CPU and fried it in the process. because the processors sold running on low clocks are designed to run on low (or at least lower) clocks? You would take it to your retailer and have it replaced under warranty. Because the retailer would indeed be unable to tell why the CPU doesn't work. So that is not entirely fair, is it?

>>52888731
>You are a fucking retard, ofcourse a single core cpu would get blown away by decent quad cores.
>blown away

That's a really strong statement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5ejBlynOV8

>>52888804
holy shit i can't believe this is real

>>52889161
>AAA

>>52889240
links for proof needed

>>52887771
it's probably because they want to stop cheap neckbeards turning their skylake cpus into paperweights, i.e. their protecting idiots from their own stupidity

if you want a K cpu, fucking buy one

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>>52889161
I laffed

>>52889264
>Because every PC enthusiast is a 12 year old.

STFU Shiltel

>>52889162
What's wrong with dual core?
My mom is using an a6 6400k and it's not even overclocked, but it's all she needs.
Not everyone is a fucked up gamer who thinks everyone needs an i7 + 980 ti like you.

>>52889315
>Intel has a long and colorful history of Jewish behavior
>except this time
Really, anon?

Oh those silly intel goiym

I'll never understand how they can continue to live their lives being this stupid

>>52889339
Posting this from a laptop with an A4 3320m

About to upgrade to an A8 3520m

>because I don't want to be stuck in 2008

>>52889306
>links for proof needed
>http://ark.intel.com/products/76642/Intel-Core-i7-4770R-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz
>$358.00

>http://ark.intel.com/products/75122/Intel-Core-i7-4770-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz
>$312.00

>>52889375
Nothing wrong with dual core processors.

>amd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lTGk0R12gs

>>52889443
>Having a Zune

>>52887771
Intel shut down an unauthorised feature? Really?!?

This is the second time Asrock have done this, the first time around they may well have been trying to do something cool but this time around it was clear that it was a marketing stunt.

All you anons who recommended buying i3s and overclocking them, where are you now? Come on, out with you, I want to say "I told you so"

>>52889556
>All you anons who recommended buying i3s and overclocking them, where are you now? Come on, out with you, I want to say "I told you so"

They don't have to upgrade the Bios, you fucking cuck

So can we still overclock an i3 or will this feature refuse to work with new Intel processors because of some microde shit?
Pretty sure I should be able to find the right bios online that other users might upload.

>>52889384
those are both quad core anon.

>>52889798
>those are both quad core anon.

Same difference, I was using them for reference

>>52889570
Microsoft will likely release the microcode update in a regular patch, which still breaks the "feature"

>>52889100
underrated

>>52887771
>What reasons do you faggots have to not switch to AMD?

I actually want 2016 performance on my system, not pre-2010.

>>52888380
All so you can have half the IPC of a low tier i3 while consuming 10x more energy.

>amd

>>52890040
An i3 has the same IPC as an i7.

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>>52890040
>half the ipc
>4x as many cores
4x 0.5 =2 anon.
Double the performance at stock frequency.
And if energy consumption is an issue get the 8320e.
If energy consumption isn't an issue, overclock it and it'll overtake an i7 4770 even.

>>52888300
In that analogy, limiting a car would actually make sense.
Retarded memes aside, CPUs can't risk someones life.

>>52890126
>In that analogy, limiting a car would actually make sense
go home, John Deer.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3031222/tech-events-dupe/future-intel-chip-tech-will-sacrifice-speed-gains-for-power-efficiency.html

>>52888300
That already happens. For example, you buy a car, and some fagtard crashes it going like 100, they could easily find a fault with the wheel bearings and limit the car to 80 and issue a recall. Doesn't matter who's property it is

>>52887771
Already switched to AMD. FX 8350
Feelsgoodman

>>52889248
Not sure what the previous anon meant but.

Fuel economy
Performance
CO2 Exhaust

You can improve 1 at the cost of the remaining two. You don't even need a different engine. The ratios can be entirely controlled via software. VW just boosted performance of their cars by not giving a fuck about the pollution.

>>52889306
Literally any MQ, HQ, CPU vs any ULV i7 and some ULV i5s

>>52890118
2 times the cores. modules aren't cores

>>52889570
These are pushed out via windows update. You going to go through the updates one by one to find out which one it is? Even then, if you're running Windows 10 you're pretty much fucked. It'll be updated whether you like it or not.

Next time try not to throw around insults without knowing what you're talking about.

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>Falling for the skylake meme

>>52890524
>These are pushed out via windows update. You going to go through the updates one by one to find out which one it is? Even then, if you're running Windows 10 you're pretty much fucked. It'll be updated whether you like it or not.
>
>Next time try not to throw around insults without knowing what you're talking about.

I like how you came back about an hour later just to say that.

FYI, running linux right now.

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>>52888970
Can you faggots at least use "shill" correctly?

>>52890559
>I like how you came back about an hour later just to say that.
Yes, I went away from the computer, did other things, came back to the computer and replied to an anon who replied to me. /g/ is slow enough to do that.
>FYI, running linux right now.
Oh yeah, that totally excuses confusing "microcode update" with "BIOS update"

>>52890599
Okay, computer expert.

>>52890685
gg no re :^)

>>52890599
>Oh yeah, that totally excuses confusing "microcode update" with "BIOS update"
How the fuck do you think they update the microcode? Even fucking coreboot ships with intel's binary blobs.

>>52890775
No modern motherboard uses a BIOS. UEFI is a lot more modular, allowing changes like that to be implemented from the OS very easily and not coming close to anything we would classically call a "BIOS update"

>>52887771
What is this microcode that they speak of, and what is preventing someone from just flashing it, or not updating it at all?

>>52890916
N-no, goy! You really shouldn't tamper with that kind of stuff!

>>52890455
Yet it still manages to beat a haswell i7 4770.
Gg anon.

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never updating my bios lol

>>52891571
In one synthetic benchmark.

>>52891597
You don't have a BIOS, enjoy going through every windows update to prevent that one update that'll disable overclocking lol

>>52889268
>those rock-solid FX-6300 frame times at stock with shit RAM vs much newer i3 designs

Intel really is shit. Oh, you want to get that FX-6300 to the top of the pack? Spend the $30 difference on a decent air cooler and clock that shit up to 4.5ghz, then see if you can bump your RAM up any. If not, no big deal; you'll still be doing better than the latest i3, and you'll have a custom cooler you can use on multiple builds in the future.

As a proud owner of a 6700k I can say this is pretty shitty move on Intel's part.

Who the fuck cares if you can oc shitty i3's or i5's? They're limited to blck overclocks. You can get a decent oc out of them but you can't hit the high clocks of the k series.

Let the commoners save some of their peasant money and enjoy some enthusiasm by being able to oc a little and enjoy gaming.

Don't be ridiculous and Jew then out.

Amd needs to be successful with zen for we can get away from these draconian behaviors.

>>52891597
microcode so it's coming in windows updates and you can't escape it.

>>52892002
Does Microsoft ship microcode updates via windows update like Linux does?

>>52892002
What if I have updates disabled?

>>52891987
>proud owner of a consumer i7
I blame just about every tech youtuber out there.

You were warned, /g/.

https://libreboot.org/faq/#intel

YOU WERE WARNED.

Because zen isn't out yet

>Winbabby gaymers believing they were ever free under an Intel/AMD duopoly

HAHAHAHAHA

>>52892991
>https://libreboot.org/faq/#amd

What are they gonna support, then?

Person who knows jack-shit here.

I've got the i7-6820HQ

Can I still overclock? (If yes, how?)

>>52892002
I thought microcode updates only happened through IME

>>52889248
Sometimes it's a safety thing too, some cars have engines powerful enough to go past 260km/hr but are restricted to 200 because the frame itself isn't capable to holding together to the safety standards of the transport department.
Looking at you Holden.

>>52893193
POWER, and to a lesser extent ARM.

https://libreboot.org/faq/#amdbastards (doesn't appear to be a direct link for the "what can I use" question)

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Am i doing this right?

>>52893370
>Can I still overclock?
You never could and never will.

You can't with laptop CPUs unless they're X or K suffix

>>52890118
>4x 0.5 =2 anon.
Which doesn't mean fucking anything unless the program is properly coded for multi-core use. Which almost no programs are past dual core use.

>>52887771
Aha retards bought CPU's just to overclock

>>52887816
I'm about to buy TWO r9 290s for my still kicking 4core 8gig Q6600 intel rig I built in 2008

Can you just not...?

Why do you have to update your BIOS. I don't get it.

>>52893673
>Q6600

mah nigga

>>52887771
Those CPUs were never meant to be overclocked. Idiots who try to overclock will probably end up blowing out their CPU, damaging their computer, and potentially causing injury. Intel is making the right call here, they're just trying to protect morons from themselves. If you really want to overclock that bad, skip starbucks for a few days and save up the $30 to get a CPU that is meant to be overclocked safely.

>>52893733
>causing injury

obvious bait

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It's just one misdeed amongst many.

I buy AMD partly for this reason.

>>52893733
>meant to be overclocked safely
An OC is an OC, there's no "safe overclock". It doesn't matter if it's a K or non-K CPU, you're still playing the silicon lottery and can get fucked with unstable overclocking on a low-binned CPU.

>Jewtel
>Intel is literally Hitler

Jews are literal Nazis, eh

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>>52893733
my brother died overclocking .
he wasn't rad enough

>2016
>using Intel

https://libreboot.org/faq/#intelme

>>52893963
But that would come out in a stability test. A "safe overclock" is whatever the chip can do safely.

>>52887771
Reasons:
>Low IPC
>High TDP
>Company almost dead
>Shitty Linux drivers
nothx

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>>52888692
>but most games use 2 cores
as old pre 2007? yes
as of today? no

>>52889289
It was the real thing. Intel didn't do it afterwards because they probably realised that they don't want to have people thinking about how their hardware is artificially limited.

When it is non-unlockable it can be excused by the possibility that the locked parts can be defective and the CPU is harvested like that. But if the chip is guaranteed to be fine by existence of such remote upgrades, then that is something that tends to get people pissed off.

BTW that upgrade wasn't even very good, it was just HT and small aprt of cache IIRC, yet it was relativelly expenisive.

>>52887771
AnandTech has "nice" apologism article. Longwinded blabla with such terms as "something has to be said about user experience", to get around teh fact that it is consumer-unfriendly step.
Well, tehy gotta keep their advertiser and supporter happy, of course, but I thought they weren't *that* bad.

All this AMD fanboyism.
It's like people don't enjoy performance.

Overclocking is for poorfags who can't afford to get a good processor. This fake overclocking trick just lets even poorerfags tlo try to save a few bucks. If you want quality, you have to pay for it, plain and simple. There's no shortcuts.

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>>52894733
i enjoy performance. That's why I got an fx6300 instead of an i5 2500 and saved a hundred Australian $$$.
All I play now is battlefield 4 and gta v so I doubt I'd even notice the difference.
Haven't even overclocked yet. Performs great.

But Hitler did nothing wrong

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>>52887771
AMD is still shit

>>52887771
>What reasons do you faggots have to not switch to AMD?

This is my reason:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj7wnRA1yDo

>>52894908

He overclocked his ovens. He was an overclocking pioneer.

>>52895053
Games are for children

>>>/v/

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>>52887771
Who gives a shit? Honestly, you don't need to overclock your cpu to get any noticeable gain, just wastes more heat and energy. Not even trolling or baiting, if you really NEED a CPU to be overclocked to do whatever it is you do, you can afford the unlocked. Just shut the fuck off and go shitpost elsewhere.

>>52895237
$1 has been deposited to your Intel account

>>52895237
an overclocked i3 would get pretty close to i5 performance for much cheaper 2bh.
And an overclocked i7 would be great for rendering and other cpu intensive tasks.

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>>52895275
>no decent rebuttal
>lol xD you are work at intel thats why you think dat

>>52895115
OP asked for a reason and that's mine, i know you prefer to jack off to some hentai and probably amd processors are powerful enough to do that but i prefer to play arma 3 from time to time.

Amd processors are too far behind right now so there's no reason to downgrade to amd, just wait for zen and maybe then will be some reasons to upgrade to amd.

>>52895237
You are right but you have to admit for those who do need processing power, ie a vm or something stupid OCing does add a lot of performance.

I'm just waiting for gaymen to use more cores, and AMD to cross from being the more lower end CPUs, and begin attacking the High End market. This is for both CPUs and GPUs. They are getting more competitive with GPUs though.

I would buy an AMD CPU if they weren't so shit.

>>52895377
Are you fucking retarded?

>>52895463
> States facts
Oh no, he said something that triggered me, quickly! Call him retarded!
> hurr durr yur retrded hurr durr

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>>52887771

y'all niggas really are young as fuck.

I can't be the only one that remembers when the PII was released and we found out that Intel tried to kill overclocking by locking the multiplier. Only way to oc back then was to change the bus speed and you could barely stretch it past 75MHz unless you had one of the first two Celerons (266 or 300, slot 1, no L2 cache). Put either one on a 100MHz bus and those things could demolish a P2-400 or 450 in 3D gaming.

Intel has gone through great lengths to stop oveclocking and anything else that would allow you to buy a cheaper part and extract performance out of it (i.e. disabling SMP on Celerons)

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>>52895608
>P2-400
my first computer!

if you want to OC you buy the K anyway, if you say otherwise, stop lying. There's hardly a fucking price difference you poor fags.

>>52887771
>overclocking on non-K series
who would actually do that

>>52893673
Why 290s? Just get 390 or enjoy your housefire

>>52895494
Not the same guy, but AMD cores themselves are absolute shit.
If 8 core started becoming a gaming thing (and people actually gave a shit), Intel would delicately wipe the floor with AMD all because of more RnD budget and better marketing (or any at all.
Stop trying to convince other people to take away your buyer's remorse.

>>52887771

>You OC a non-k processor and it doesn't die in half a year

Grats, you won the silicone lottery!

>You OC a non-k processor and it dies within the warantee period

Oops! Guess you can just return it and get another one since there's no way to tell you basically ruined it.

What would really be nice is if Intel started keeping an internal temp/voltage/speed log inside the chip itself. I would pay front row seats to see the look on the neckbeard's face when they get a notice back informing them that no, they won't be getting a replacement and yes, they know you OCed it and destroyed it.

>>52887771
You do realize that a non-K Skylake i5 is still faster than every single thing in AMD's line-up right?

>>52895921
except the 9570 in an application that uses all 8 threads!!!!!

>>52896122
9590 is fucking retarded. I know you're just playing devil's advocate but it seriously is retarded.

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>>52887771
>overclocking

>>52888300
Most cars are over spec'ed and under tuned, mostly to make it last long and be more reliable.
Makes sense when you think about it, as a family car doesn't need to go from 0-100 in under 3 seconds. Get a performance car if you want that.

>>52888804
Jesus fuck is this real.

>>52888692
>>52888520
>>52888731
Even ubishit is into multicore faggots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1T3IQ4N-3g

>>52888300
nonono, you see, when you buy something you don't actually own it, you just have the permission of the manufacturer to use it like they want you to, not how you want to

>>52892025
e.g. https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/3064209

Only as optional update, I think.

>>52889100
Neither did Hitler

>>52887771
Can we agree that IBM's POWER series was the last good line of processors until they went server-only?

>>52889264
How is Jewtell responsible for what happens to their products when avoidin warranty?

>>52896174
It might outperform the i5 6600 in was scenario like that though.
Only AMD worth getting was the fx 6300 in my opinion, priced against i3, could match an i5 3570 in some games. Plus it'll still be relevant thanks to dx12 scaling.

>Intel is literally Hitler
Isn't the opposite when Intel is jewing all over

>being able to OC is the default

lol

>>52887771
Im not a facist but If I could time travel back in 1940s I'd help Hitler win the war and dominate the world , Because I have seen this side of the story and it sucks ! Btw I'm using Intel .

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>>52887844
>VULCAN
>MANTLE

Jewtel shill

>>52891844
>you'll still be doing better than Intel's current gen lowest models

>>52895921
I've always wondered how AMD ended up at this situation where the performance gap has become so big that there is literally no reason to buy an AMD CPU unless you're strapped for cash.

>>52897104
Intel AMD anti consumer lawsuit.
Intel gave massive discounts and paid OEMs to not use AMD. Look it up, it got pretty bad, iirc they estimated 50bil loss for AMD.

>>52890126
>Intel protecting its customers from housefires
Absolutely based.

>>52896731
both are useless.
Mantle only worked on like 1 card in BF4, and even on that one people had stutter issues.

>>52891571
>Measuring CPUs using a stupid as shit CPU 3D rendering 3DMark 11
>AMD confirmed to be good at useless shit nobody wants it to be good at and useless at shit people need it to be good at
>AMDtard crows about the one benchmark while people with any amount of sense realize that under every other workload Intel shits on AMD garbage at every price point.

But sure you can get a few FPS more CPU rendering Crysis slideshows.

>>52897753
>Mantle only worked on like 1 card in BF4, and even on that one people had stutter issues.

We all know that's bullshit.

>>52895053
>Arma 3
>uses multiple cores
>AI is still single threaded
If you want single thread performance then yes intel is better.
That's what Zen is trying to fix. AMD has better multicore performance for the same bucks.

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>>52898219
>>52895053
Even the i7s do not perform significantly better than the i3.

AMD PCs are great value for money.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qcFTsY

>>52898192
What?
I owned a 7870, even on that card it did not work.
I had crazy stutter with Mantle.

>>52895314
can someone tell me what gun that is?

>>52898347
M1 Garand

the one that goes *ping*

>>52893673
He was referring to their CPUs, which are far behind their graphics cards.

>>52898352
oh i thought those were longer than that

>>52888268
well to be honest, these days the critical limiting factors is heat.

So really the clocks should be marked with some number per effective cooling

>>52887771
you get what you pay for

>>52890118
instructions per watt is highly sought after when it comes to real life

>>52898377
>k processor costs 15% more than non-k variant
>custom cooler adds another 15-40% to the cost
>at best you get a 30% OC
you get less than what you pay for.

>>52896508
>Boo hop I don't want to pay $250 for a once in 5 year purchase I want to genocide an entire people
What a faggot.

>>52898452
For some people, absolute performance is worth more in time saved, just imagine how much time a 30% OC would cut off a video render or other similarly taxing task.

>>52898491
the added risk of instability or failure destroys those time savings.

>>52898564
When's the last time someone ruined a CPU by overclocking within reasonable levels? Most recent Intel chips can hold 4.3~4.5Ghz 24/7 under load with a decent cooler, which is pretty significant since the base clock can be 1Ghz less.

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>>52898604
Rendering slightly faster is not worth the risk of having a bluescreen the night before a deadline.

>>52898491
>>52898452
>>52898377
OC also kicks up your power consumption since there is no speedstep anymore. Buying a simple non-K but stronger CPU is a better deal.. IMO.

I also thought about buying a Xeon with company money, because those can also turbo boost to eternity, yet can speedstep very well.

>>52898757
how comes that games work, OS works, everything works but this whatever ends up with a "failure"?

>>52887771
Intel has always been hostile to overclocking. You used to have to physically alter the CPU in order to do it. Motherboards actually designed for OCing weren't always a thing.

AMD didn't exactly encourage it to begin with, but they've always made it easy, and they haven't tried to hinder it once it started to become common. That's kind of why AMD's popularity grew in the late 90s and early 00s. They were thought of as the OCer's CPU.

>>52887771
>Works
>More powerful
>More compatible with other hardware and softwares
>Real cores
>Stable
>Pisses off MAD poorfags

>>52890126
>CPUs can't risk someone's life.
Unless you're buying AMD.

>>52887861
I cried at this

>>52893494
>no boot drive
>1080p with a 980
>60hz
>windows 10
1-800-come-on-now

>>52899116
> have AMD CPU and GPU
> 900W idle consumption
> computer spitting flames into my face from time to time
> 1080p because my Fury is not weak, 1080p is just the better than the rest
> buy a 120gb SSD with all that saved money from buying AMD instead of Intel

:^)

>>52896277
intel did it once with weaker CPUs, it was like a G series Pentium or something like that, the one of the first ones.
and they stopped doing this after this one model.
and it was region limited, like it was in Netherlands only IIRC?

>>52894340
Well, here you go: Blade and Soul just came out for NA/EU.
It can only use two cores.
What now, weaboo shitposter?

>>52888734
X4 Chart: I don't think the G was OC'd...

There are games that refuse to launch with two cores only though, so there is that.
But most of the times you can just bypass this.

>>52887771
>What reasons do you faggots have to not switch to AMD?
Performance is shit m8, thats as simple as it gets.

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>>52893951
I knew Jewtel was bad, but goddamn.

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Only with AMD you can buy 32 core chips.

>>52888520
>7nm

topkek

>>52888692
>games

>>52887771
What's next, DLC cores?
Intel, you buncha fucks!

If nothing uses more than 4 cores does this mean that a Athlon X4 845 for 66€
>https://geizhals.de/amd-athlon-x4-845-ad845xybjcsbx-a1389036.html
is faster than a FX-6300 for 102€
>https://geizhals.de/amd-fx-6300-fd6300wmhkbox-a853168.html
?

They both have 3.5 GHz but the X4 845 has a better architecture.

>>52899356
>What's next, DLC cores?
Already had those m80.

>>52899366
[spoiler]I know[/spoiler].
And it's not a reason to not have it again.

DLC cores.
DLC OC-ing.
DLC new hardware licenses (so you can use new RAM, HDD's or whatever with your Intel-made CPU's and shit).

only poorfags on /g/ overclock non-k cpus anyway so who gives a fuck? nobody that matters.

>>52895757
Never bought an AMD cpu. I'm just speculating on what will happen.

>>52889956
Microshaft? WTF do they have to do about it? It's a bios thing.

>>52899426
>>>52889956
>Microshaft? WTF do they have to do about it? It's a bios thing.
Come back when you actually learn about os architecture thanksss

>>52899426
Skylake chipsets have UEFI instead of BIOS:

>>52893951
> implying your tiny amount of $ matters at all
> implying anyone cares about you defending a multi billion megacompany
> implying you didn't just end up with a shit CPU

>>52893951
protip: AMD also sold OC-able chips for higher prices.

>>52890916
Microcode is what runs the processor, it signals which lines should be high during a given cycle to complete an instruction
AFAIK it can't be permanently reflashed, just hotflashed that survives until reboot.

On Linux you can use this mechanism to replace the microcode at will, Intel is even the one that wrote the drivers for it.

>>52896275

the irony that you literally just described processors

the non-K versions failed initial tests and thus are overclocked for a reason

most people who buy a CPU and build a computer to use dont want it to fail in a year an have to drop hundreds of more dollars

>>52899181
Sounds like if they were testing the thing. If they could get away with it.

>>52899258
>32 cores
:^)

>>52899660
Yeah. But honestly, when you buy a chip, like an i7 920, you may end up with an i7 950 or better.
It's all just a silicon lottery.
You are paying for a better quality chip.

Just bought a GTX780 with a 90%+ ASIC quality for my gf.
I don't even know what it means but the seller was proud of this card.
So I think this lottery is now a thing in GPUs as well.

>>52898290

Mein neger

Pretty similar to mine. FX8350, sapphire R9 290 vapor x.

Performs great

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>>52899641
>the non-K versions failed initial tests and thus are overclocked for a reason

Wow, you have an insight into Intel's binning process that literally nobody else, apparently! Tell me Mr. Intel Insider, why do these non-K chips overclock just as well as the K ones and remain completely stable if they weren't just arbitrarily locked off because Intel are greedy kikes?

Hit me back, just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan, this is Stan.

>>52899661
http://fudzilla.com/news/processors/37564-the-next-generation-opteron-has-32-zen-x86-cores

>>52899641
>most people who buy a CPU and build a computer to use dont want it to fail in a year an have to drop hundreds of more dollars
u wot
fx 8350 and 8320 have lasted me ages

>>52899693
well my standing Pentium also works.
so it lasted me a century.

what now?

>>52899693
>>52899681

and how many times have you replaced your "cooling" aspects

>>52899719

and every single time you "refill" your liquid cooler is a replacement

and CLC's literally only work for a year or two as per the literal life time of the chemicals inside them, the cheapest CLC unit of any merit is almost 100 bucks a pop

>>52887771
Literally, hu? They haven't covered that bit of vocabulary in your junior high yet, have they?

Let's try to use the word in a sentence.

You are literally an misusing words if you claim Intel is literally Hitler.

>>52899703
my point is that his point is a pointless point

>>52899719
none? air cooling needs no replacements

filling up a liquid cooler isnt replacing the cooler. Its more a servicing fee

>>52899751
well he is dumb, so why bother even replying to him? lol.
> implying a CPU will ever fail

>>52899759

skylake fails just trying to use it

SKYLAKE i3 6100 MASTER RACE

OVERCLOCKED TO 4.5
LITERALLY FREE PERFORMANCE FOR LITTLE MONEY.

>enjoy your uefi update
implying I would

>it's micro code included with windows!!! what are you gonna do? look through every windows update>?!?!?!?!

IMPLYING I UPDATE WINDOWS EVER

stay salty /g/
you're literally cucked

>>52899675
>gf
This better be codename for a Gaming Frig.

At any rate, locking people out of their fucking hardware is a scum thing to do that should have no place in this day and age.
Seriously, it's like you couldn't drill your car engine for more CC's or some shit. It's yours, do whatever you like with it, in the worst case you'll brake it and need to buy a new one. The carousel goes around.

>>52899641
Yeah sorry but I've been using my i7-930, which is overclocked to 4GHz, daily since 2009 with no issues. This was a base model and wasn't one of the overpriced unlocked multiplier models intended for overclocking.

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>>52899806

>free performance for little money

so OC'ing your previous haswell build would have cost more than buying an entire fucking new build because Intel made you think meme lake "technology" couldnt work without 1 extra pin

>>52899888
>>52899806
I am more concerned about power use, heat, and the only 2 cores.
Most games already lock you out if you only have 2 cores.

I am also thinking about buying an i3 though, i5 seems like wasted money for games.
Most games can never max out even 3 cores of my i7, let alone 4 or more.

>not buying the K version to begin with when they clearly said no OC for non-K CPUs
>putting your hardware in danger with untested third party microcode

>>52887771
>Has black case
>Catches on fire

>>52900035

>im concerned about heat and power usage

you realize meme lake is 10 points higher than the entire line of 55 TPD haswells right?

>>52900109
nah I meant like OC'd CPUs can really act a heat blower.
factory TDP does not mean much once you OC.
speedstep / saving features are also gone.

>>52894841
>implying no one OCs 'good' CPUs too
>retard detected

>>52893678
The microcode comes with windows update, so you'd probably have to go though the updates and disable it if you want to skip it. Even if you download it, i think microcode can't be flashed over reboots.

>>52899166
I want to physically reach through my monitor and strangle this person.

>>52898332
My 290 with a 860 always got under 30 fps on any multiplayer with Mantle on, DID got ~40

>>52887825
But that's correct, you child

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>>52888300
>wtf is overclocking?

>>52901016
*D3d, not did

What is even the point of OCing these days besides flauting "muh ePeen"? Is anyone even impressed by that shit anymore? Grats, you turned on the the "turbo" option in your BIOS or whatever. Now you get a few extra FPS in some shitty tech demo disguised as a game, or can render video 30 seconds faster than the other guy. Who gives a shit?

>>52887771
intel is still better and if I want to overclock I still have that option...I can just by a k-model.

huuuuur a company is trying to make things more accesible for a wider audience, why can't they just make all their products for me :( :( :(

You are literally retarded.

>>52887771
You do know that over clocking literally destroys your cpu right? Running transistors at higher voltages for prolonged periods of time will destroy them, especially if you run it in the knee of the Iv curve at high temperatures.

This is a good thing. It prevents morons from ruining their hardware.

>Doesn't update bios
>profits

>>52901895
Retard alert

>>52902236
Anon, stop before you embarrass yourself.

>>52901895
>I'm okay with freedom's restriction

>>52901895
CPUs are designed to the point of outliving their usefulness by a large margin. you can use that extra lifespan by overclocking. As for temps, it's dumb to overclock without an aftermarket cooler

>>52889248
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_%28device%29
Yes, and they're shit. Never trust European cars.

>intel
Oh no, goys are using our products in unintended ways costing us profit. We better slap the customer.

>amd
Oh you overclock non BE cpu and unlocked dual core to a quad core? do what you want, just forget the warranty

>>52902495
>AMD forced to be like this due to being a shit

>Intel shills suddenly don't give a shot about performance or freedom/choice
Amd can't go even close to the temps intel can.
I've got an i5 and this is embarrassing.

Fucking Intel cucked me, I bought a 6600 thinking I could OC it in the future.

Is there any way to prevent Windows from updating the microcode or I'm just fucked?

My Core 2 Quad Q6600 is still going strong. I ran it stock for about a year, then said "Fuck it" (I had money in those days), and took it from stock 2.4 to 3.6

That was about 6 years ago now, it's been the most stable PC I've ever owned.

>Runs Fallout 4 despite Bethesda bullshit
>No further fucks given until next Elder Scrolls

Why do Intel do this? The market for boxed desktop CPUs itself is fucking tiny for them, and then this kind of enthusiast stuff is a fraction of even that.

Surely the goodwill from simply not being complete dicks would be better than the thousands of dollars they save not letting autismos on a Chinese imageboard buy unauthorised CPUs to overclock, especially since they're in such a monopolistic position.

>>52888381

>there is any difference at all between a k and non-k processor

>>52901895
>not underclocking and undervolting
>ever turning your pc on

What a pleb. Mine will never die.

>You can just send the CPU the older microcode.
>Not a single fuck given.
Its amazing that anyone even cares about this clickbait bullshit. It will keep retards from frying their CPU.

>>52892701
What is wrong with being happy with the fact of owning a consumer i7?

Don't get your memes dude>>52892701

>>52903993
>tripfag
>non-ironic use of 'retard'
lol

Because I've been an AMD fag since day 1

>get fucked Intel

>>52905555
enjoy garbage, amdfag.

>>52903958
>not undervolting your CPU so much that you reverse bias the transistors
>not forcing every PN junction in your CPU into zener breakdown
>not just replacing your CPU with a triac

I can understand why Intel is doing this. Non k cards are usually not as good yield wise compared to the full k production lines. For ever non k card you successfully overclock, another one burns out.

Add in all the kiddies who don't know what the hell they are doing and go for instantly overclocking to 6.0ghz+ and burn out the cpu within the RMA period and you have a problem.

>>52907194
>for every non k card you successfully overclock, another one burns out
You know that's not true, unless it's an idiot who uses insane voltages.
If the cpu can't handle the overclock it crashes. I've had my i7 870 at 4.2ghz for 2 years now, it's not an overclocking chip, it hasn't burnt out.

>overclocking meme
just why

>>52901059

Overclocking is a standard feature of CPUs.

Its like paying to breathe.

>>52907194

Because people paying an upwards of $3-400 dollars for a single computer part are really doing that shit blind.

Transistors slow down with age and overclocking accelerates the aging process. I doubt it's worth it.

http://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors
/processors/transistor-aging

>>52887771
I would, but I have this really nice i7 920 and Intel Mobo I really like. I could update everything from my current build and OC my 920 and it would be sufficent enough for my daily needs.

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bug fix firmware bug fixes, oh geeeee