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Last one reached limit because of shitposters edition.

--PLEASE USE THIS FORM TO GET PURCHASE ADVICE--
>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

>Previous thread:
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>>52876730
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^
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>>52876827
>>52876837
I guess you really don't want to go bald anon.


helo rato
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>>52876827
>>52876837
>>52876890
kill self
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This thread was supposed avoid shitposters, not encourage them.

helo rato
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>>52876730
couldn't you faggots at least shop a headphone on the damn thing?
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>>52876730
>making a thread 30 posts early
>no headphones in the picture

Really?
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>Budget
$200, flexible
>Location
USA
>Source
Desktop PC, occasionally my phone/tablet
>Preferred type of headphone
Around-ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Something that won't kill me after 3-5 hours of use.
>Preferred tonal balance
Not entirely sure, I want to say something neutral.
>Preferred music
Electronic, but I listen to almost everything. Also I intend to play games with these.
>Past headphones
Various cheap earbuds, some kind of wireless Sennheiser headphones.
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Good sand this meme is Gary
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>>52876730
daily reminder that the HD600 is the perfect headphone.
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>>52876730
hello ted cruz
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Alright, my Yuin PK2 earphones died on me for the second time and I want something different since the build quality is obviously very poor.

I'm interested in canalphones but the problem is I can't really have anything that cancels out noise too much. I work as an intern MD at a hospital, and I have a really comfy position where I can basically listen to music most of the time. However, I need to be able to leap into action if one of the nurses hits an alarm because a patient is like choking on their dinner and turning blue. The Yuin PK2 were pretty much the perfect balance since they cancelled out a decent amount of background sound, but still made the hospital alarm perfectly audible.

So what the fuck do I buy?
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>>52875879
Do you have a suggestion?
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>>52877576
The problem is that the PK2 are earbuds, so almost any IEM will have more isolation. There aren't any good earbuds though.

Some IEMs with relatively low isolation to check out:
Soundmagic PL50
Brainwavz M3 or M5
JVC HA-FXT90

>>52877666
Not him but for a good open headphone at that price, you may need an amp which will require additional money.

For closed, the DT770 80 ohm is a great option. It's overpriced on Amazon right now so get it on eBay or something.
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Does anyone have any recommendations for an inexpensive set of earbuds?

I used to use some Apple earpods I got as a gift, but recently lost them. So I'm in the market for something new. I'm not an audiophile, and the earpods were high quality audio in my book.

So any advice?
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Just bought a pair of these beauties. Pain in the ass that I'll have to wait till May 1, but whatever, it's worth it. Wasn't impressed with the DT880 600Ohm I'm using now. Think these will be a lot better. Perhaps less ear rape treble, more present bass, similar mids. Should be a good deal less leakage as well.
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>>52878187
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>>52878244
Amps are a meme.
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>>52878244
can't you buy one and send it back later in case you dislike it?
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>>52878395
I wish. But i read certain headphone benefit from proper amp.

>>52878469
No shop provide the service in my country. Either buy or sell it later if you dont like.

But i'm leaning toward O2 amp. But i worried it will change the sound dramatically.
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>>52878244
As you already get sufficient volume, amplifier likely won't change a thing other than allowing you to get more volume. It won't hurt though. O2 is good if you want a peace of mind.
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>>52876730
How to into headphones? I listen to music constantly and known for a fact my current cheapo $60 headphones are failing me in sound quality with all the nigger base, how do I even start to understand what to buy that's better? Don't know what the graphs mean with Fidelity and everything, but I know I like a crisp clear trebble
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>>52878187
They leak similarly to open headphones. Nobody really considers them 'true' closed headphones because of it.
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>>52878854
So, what if i buy a dac instead of amp? My audio source is Realtek 1150. Any noticeable improvement?
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>>52877279
Now wouldn't it be funny if this thread hit the post limit while the other one is still up and open.
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>>52877293
>electronic music
>neutral
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>>52879021
No. Also you need an amp if you have a discrete DAC.
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>>52879027
Don't know that. Guess i'll proceed with O2 and treat it as investment for other headphone purchase. Thanks.
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>>52878950
Yeah I know they're "semi-open", but still, I'm sure my DT880s are worse. If I play music loud enough to sound really good I can leave them on my desk and listen to them like speakers ffs.
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>>52879026
kys
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>>52879021
>So, what if i buy a dac instead of amp?
Why would you do that? Makes no sense.
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>>52876782
>>52876791
>>52876837
>>52876890
>>52876891
>>52876998
>>52877036
>>52879346
Since when did g become so superstitious
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>>52876730
helo rato, save me
My hair is falling out because I wear headphones so much
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>>52879538
Nice excuse
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>>>/b/
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>>52876730
hello
rato
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>>52880190
Seems like a bretty awesome guy
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>>52880190
god that photo was probably taken about a decade ago by now lmao
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>>52877812
Thanks
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>>52876730
Helo rato.
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>>52877956
The newish audio techniqa in ears
I cant remember what they wwre called but I got mine for like 20$
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>>52876730
hellorato.
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Looking to upgrade from a hd598 to a hd600.
Will there be a significant difference in sound quality, and is a e10k enough to drive it?
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Does anyone know what the TekSyndicate discount code is on the Mayflower Electronics website? I remember them mentioning that discount code but I cant find the right video with it again on teksyndicate.
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hello ratto
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>>52880926
yes
yes
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>>52880935
are you sure there is one? I remember mayflower electronics being mentioned, with that tyler guy, but I've never heard him mention a discount code

checked the video posts about mayflower electronics on the site & can't find a discount code, try the forums?
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>>52880935
http://www.promopro.com/merchant-Mayflower-Electronics-coupons-deals-83678.html
http://www.savingstory.com/coupons/mayflower-electronics/

best I can do, bubba
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>>52880352
It's not like anything more important goes on in these threads.

>guis hd 600 is bes
>no lol beyer 880 is better
>is my laptop good enough to drive my new headphones??
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>>52880987
I swear to god I heard them mention it at the end of one of the tek syndicate videos with that Mayflower Electronics guy there. This is driving me crazy. I remember them saying something about it only working on orders over $100.
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>>52880926
Likely and yes.
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>>52881025
might have ended if there was one anyway, most recent one I can find is from July, try asking on the tek syndicate forums?
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>>52880935
>>52880987
>>52881002
>>52881025

I found it! @ 12:25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dj5G0isn9Y

Code TEK15 for $15 off orders over $100

I guess I'll get Mayflower instead of JDS labs now.
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>>52881081
Ooops it's at 15:25
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>>52881163
>>52881081
hope for you it still works lol
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>>52881182
Id doesn't unfortunately.
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>>52881022
K702 + E10K = match made in heaven, perfection, highly recommended, 9.8/10, I have them, Sennshills' nightmare, best under 1k, King of the Big 3, made in China, AMP/dac, Varimotion®, flat wire voice coil(patent pending)
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>>52881230
>AMP/dac
r-reee
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should i kill myself?
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>>52880926
>Will there be a significant difference in sound quality
Supposedly yes
> and is a e10k enough to drive it?
Maybe
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>>52881428
>Maybe
It will.
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>>52876730
hello rato!
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>tfw janitor is fighting a losing battle unless he deletes the images
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Anyone know where I can get hd600's on the cheap in bongland? Currently ~£220 on amazon which is a little more than I'd like to pay.
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why headphone amp? my computer output goes a million times louder than i need on its own.

i also used the amp on a firewire audio interface, and couldn't hear any quality difference.

the quieter you can monitor the better
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>>52876904 See what you've done now?
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Hello rato-kun, how am I doing for poorfag tier?
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How does the DACport Slim compare to the E10K?
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>>52881791
Pretty good
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>>52876730
pls no balding

hello rato

captcha pls my post is not spam, clearly
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hello rato c:
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>>52881791
no highs :(
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Please help me out:

>Budget
200€ absolute maximum

>Location
Germany

>Source
Soundblaster Z (on Asus Z87 Pro)

>Preferred type of headphone
Fullsize

>Open or closed
Open if possible, but no must

>Comfort level
High to very high

>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral to V-shaped I guess

>Preferred music
Mostly for games

>Past headphones
Sennheiser Street II (IEM)
Roccat Kave 5.1 (no h8 pls, I was stupid back then)
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>>52882265
K 702
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Tell me about electrostatic headphones vs he400i. Ones <$500 used
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>>52882265
Too bad your budget stops at 200 euros. Otherwise you could get a nice Fidelio X2 from amazon for 30 bucks more. K702 are your best alternative I think.
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>>52882563
Did they fix the problems with the bad X2 batch?
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>>52882574
I think I got mine before the bad batch shit. Either way if you order through amazon you can return them anytime and get the K702 instead.
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>>52882563
>>52882431
How "deep" are the k702? The problem with most models I tested today was the plastic inside the earcups pressing on my ears.
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>>52882705
I would say that the earpads are thich enough to avoid contact with the drivers. The K702 has angled earpads, which provide better seal and more spatious sound. I had two X2 in the past, both were defective, I returned them to Amazon, I got the refund and I bought a K702 and a Fiio E10K for less. I couldn't be happier.
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>>52882806
Yet another K702 + E10K success story!
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>>52882705
I've never used them extensively, but when I did they were very comfortable.
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Helo rato
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880 or 990?
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>>52883003
880
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>>52883019
why
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Are planars a pitstop before electrostats?
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>>52883003
>>52883035
I tested them both today.
The sound on these is great. Imo the 990 focuses more on the treble and the 880 is more neutral. Also, the 880 has better bass. People sometimes describe the 990 as "harsher" but I quite liked it, also considering the price.
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>>52883061
Pretty much
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>>52883393
is the "speed" of electrostats really that much of an improvement over planars?
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>>52876730
hello rato :^)
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>>52883141
I used to have the 990. It was a fun headphone for movies, games some electronic music in particular.
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>>52883003
880, since it's closer to neutral than 990, unless you want more prominent v-shape.
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>>52883536
tell me how is the ad900x in spectrum graph?
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>>52883061
What?

>>52883448
Stop this speed meme already. It's not a thing.
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>>52883575
Not that anon but here is the only measurement of the AD900X I know.

http://headphones.reviewed.com/content/audio-technica-ath-ad900x/science-page
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>>52876730
Hello rato hhh
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>>52879518
Never underestimate meme magic anon


Hello rato hhh
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>>52883448
Speed is very nearly a meme.
I have tried the stax 4170, audeze lcd3, lcdx and hifiman he6 and the stax just sound completely different to the planars, if you can I'd try them out yourself so you can decide
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>>52883061
No. Why would you think that?

>>52883448
>speed" of electrostats
Audiophiles don't understand concepts such as speed and velocity. Do you?
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>>52883829
>Audiophiles don't understand concepts such as speed and velocity. Do you?
speed meaning how "fast" the sound producing elements reset to 0. They say that dynamic is slowest, planars faster, statics are the fastest
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Reminder to get THE BEST closed headphones currently in existence.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fostex-x-massdrop-th-x00?utm_placement=24&referer=2YVXYC&mode=guest_open&utm_source=Sailthru&

1 day left, 300 copies left
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>>52883740
>stax just sound completely different to the planars
Could it be because its frequency response is very different to those headphones you compared it to and this is actually not related to the transducer type used? Hm?
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>>52883845
nice broscience bro.
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>>52883947
i-its not broscience. Do you even know how slow dynamics are m8?
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Hello rato!
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>>52883878
Nah, the planars still sound like headphones whilst the stax sounded like speakers
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>>52876730
hello rato

=)
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Hello rqti
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>>52883575
I mostly agree with >>52883671
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>>52882705
unless you have freakishly huge ears they wont touch the inside of the k702
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>>52884084
>The Audio-Technica ATH-AD900X is better than 28% of the headphones we tested.
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>>52883971
So slow they can cover the audible range of frequencies easily.
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>>52884282
They're slow like when you watch an old cartoon from the 30's and its animated at 12fps.
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>>52884230
Not sure i get your point.
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>>52883845
It sounds like you skipped out on mathematics or elementary physics; either course would define the concept of speed.
A definition from a dictionary:
>The rate or a measure of the rate of motion, especially:
>a. Distance traveled divided by the time of travel.
>b. The limit of this quotient as the time of travel becomes vanishingly small; the first derivative of distance with respect to time.
>c. The magnitude of a velocity.
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When do I need an amp?

I'm having trouble finding what my motherboard can do. One website suggestions up to 600O, but doesn't less Ohm mean less resistance? Isn't that what makes better sound?

Is there a beginner guide somewhere? A video beginner guide. Not a long drawn out wiki made by enthusiasts.
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>>52884554
Amplifier/DAC checklist:

-Is it too quiet?
-Is the output impedance too high (fixable by equalization)?
-Is there noise/EMI or hiss to it?
-Does it sound distorted as you start to crank up the volume?
If the answer is no, don't get one.
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>>52876730
hello rato>>52876730
...
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>>52884585
Well I don't have the good good headphones yet. I'm trying to figure out if I should be buying 60ohm or 800ohm or anything inbetween or lower.

I'm trying not to doom myself to buying headphones that don't work because no power.
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>>52881877
Cheers mate.
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H E L L O R A T O
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>>52884658
>don't work because no power.
The only thing that would happen is the headphone would be too quiet. Most headphones aren't even that insensitive, unless you are talking about those horrible European limited devices or something.
>60ohm or 800ohm or anything
This isn't that important, and it doesn't say much anything without headphone sensitivity.
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>>52884658
>>52884554
ohms are related to the difficulty to drive but it's not as simple as "you can drive up to X ohms"
also has to do with sensitivity

post headphones & we'll probably be able to tell you if it can drive it
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>>52884714
YEE

mate
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nice try
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How much do I need to spend to get in ear monitors or head phones that can isolate noise to save my hearing?
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>>52884783
>>52884779
Not the Anon you are talking too, but is there any calculation i can make to find what is the exact amount of amplification a headphone needs, based on impedance and sensitivity? say, if i hypothetically wanted to build an amp for an specific headphone.
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>>52884305
Let's hear how you think your analogy relates to the sound.
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>>52884879
no because it also matters on how loud you want them

maybe try http://www.audiobot9000.com/match/beyerdynamic/dtx-350-p/with/fiio/e10k ?
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hello rato

Shit OP image BTW.
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>>52884923
So it's more of a matter of an amp delivering enough current to fit headphone X between a minimum and a maximum of current, so you can properly drive it without ruining it?
What specs do i need to look for in order to know if an amp will fit a particular headphone between these points?
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wat, this can't be right
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Ay
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>>52884979
no it's more like if you don't deliver enough power, the headphones will be too quiet

I don't think I've ever heard about an amp that delivered so much (which you couldn't control) that it broke headphones or because unuseable with headphones

>>52885021
why not, expensive amps are a meme, e10k can drive basically anything
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Just got in the drop for these mother fuckers.
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>>52885032
>punk it touhou
>K-ON
>yuru yuri
damn nigga that's some good taste
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>>52885021
unlike what headfi and reddit tried to make you believe, you don't need to spend more than 80$ to drive most headphones nowadays.
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>>52885037
>>52885084
I mean that's _way_ too low SPL for Ether from E10K and on the fence whether I'd consider E10K being able to drive it(assuming 106dB is correct). I'd want more headroom than 106dB.
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>>52885136
>I'd want more headroom than 106dB.
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What's wrong with M50x's pads? Overheating is the only one problem I see.
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>>52885181
You don't? After equalizing the headphones and listening to high dynamic range recordings, my peaks would be well under 100dB, probably close to 90dB.
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>>52883141
Great! Thanks for the detailed answer!
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>>52885261
I think mine are around 70-80 decibels
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>>52884875
MEE audio M6 PRO?
Audio-Technica ATH-IM70?
Crossfade LP 2?
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>>52879676
I could finally take that foil around the earcups off, since my headphone stand finally arrived today.
I also soldered a mini-XLR plug onto a nice single sleaved cable with a mic on it that runs to a splitter.
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Guys, i was here once and there was a picture on the thread with some IEM that were tiny plastic on it and it looked so comfy.
Anon know which one?
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Best IEM under $50?
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>>52885136
>>52885261
>>52885299
plase explain, what do you mean by "more headroom"? i only know about it when it's about FS, how does it work with amps and headphones? doesn't a digital limiter o -0.3 solves the problem?
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>>52885350
>on the thread with some IEM that were tiny plastic on it and it looked so comfy.
In the OP or somewhere else?
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>>52885348
wrong pic
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>>52885384

OP! They did also have memory tips
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>>52885364
xiaomi piston iii or soundmagic e10
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So let me get this right.

There is better bass in closed headphones, but the positional audio is worse for games and it doesn't sound as "natural" or like you're actually there?
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>>52885466
"neutral" would be better term, but thats basically correct
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>>52885466
>There is better bass in closed headphones
Not quite.

>>52885136
I've said it before here, Audiobot isn't that good in that it tends to underestimate maximum SPL, sometimes very severely.
Audiophiles also tend to severely overestimate how much power they actually need and use.
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>>52885430
So this picture I took? They aren't comfy, I'm sorry. They do sound amazing though. Etymotic ER-4PT with the included ER-4S -adapter.
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>>52876730
Hello rato, this isn't spam
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>>52885459

Have been looking at them both, do u own one of them? I got some big ears so..

>>52885513

thanks anon
buying them
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>Q701 is considerably cheaper than K701, K7xx, etc
is there any real reason to this or is it just because nobody gives a shit about Quincy Jones
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>>52876730
h-h-hello rato. I'm start to balding, help me.
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>>52885542
the other models saw more time of marketing and/or use by the public, have different looks, which might be more appealing (but this is just a conjecture) and the Q701 kept the headband lumps that som many find uncomfortable, while the others got new, flat headbands.
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V-MODA M-100
LOVE THEM
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>>52885527
>thanks anon
>buying them
I love them but a word of warning about the comfort. You need to insert them really deep in the ear canal which is quite sensitive area for many people. Once in place they isolate like nothing else and the response after the ER-4S adapter is amazing, really close to the DF target and it sounds incredibly clear. Honestly the best sound from earphones/headphones I've heard.
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>>52885587

Thats exactly why i want them, i got big ears and i need to put my iems up in that hole

>isolation on point then
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>>52885587
sauce please.
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>>52885608
Well get them then. The ER-4S inline adapter is included with the ER-4PT along with a bunch of other stuff.

>>52885625
https://youtu.be/8KwXEqe6Gq4
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>>52876730
hello rato
originaro postaroo
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>>52885136
>I'd want more headroom than 106dB.
No you don't, baka. 70-80 dB is safe SPL for long listening, a higher level is going to damage your ears.
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>>52884879
>is there any calculation i can make to find what is the exact amount of amplification a headphone needs, based on impedance and sensitivity?
Headphones with identical voltage sensitivity are equally loud with identical voltage. There is no way to control power into a load besides adjusting voltage or current, but amplifiers are normally voltage sources. Our equation therefore:
>Target SPL = Sensitivity of headphone at certain voltage + 20 log (needed voltage / reference voltage)
The calculation is done entirely with Root Mean Square (RMS) voltage.
An example:
>105 dB = 82 dB (at 0.1 Vrms) + 20 log (needed voltage/ 0.1 Volts)
>23 = 20 log (V1 / 0.1 V)
>1.15 = log (V1 / 0.1)
>14.1 ~ V1/ 0.1
>1.41 ~ Voltage

>if i hypothetically wanted to build an amp for an specific headphone.
Do you really want to ask this question?
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>Budget
$200

>Location
America

>Source
PC

>Preferred type of headphone
Full

>Open or closed
Closed/Semi-Open

>Comfort level
Don't Care

>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral

>Preferred music
Everything

>Current Headphones
V-Moda M100, Philips SHP9500
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>>52886093
K702
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Just got my e10k, anything special i need to do to set this thing up? Disabled my speakers in playback devices and set the e10k as the default device.
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>>52886093
if you like neutral to bright, maybe get 7506
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>>52886093
msr7
these other people are stupid
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>>52885407
Nice dude. I still keep my K702 laying on the desk, because I'm afraid that a classic headphone stand like the one you got can cause stress to the headband after some time. As for the cable, I've been thinking about buying this: http://www.amazon.it/dp/B00WES6JJ2/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2L4UVPNFS1L3A&coliid=I2GRQC1ACUFSRP, because the stock cable is too long for me.
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>>52886173
set windows volume to as loud as you can go without any static or distortion, then only use the knob on the e10k to change volume
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>>52885936
Yes I do. You could safely listen through the entire day at 70dB and for at least 8 hours straight at 80dB. However I never do listen to that long in a one session and I like my music, some of it at least, to be loud. The reasons why I want the amplifier to have more headroom than what 106dB gives me are:

-I will equalize and lose a considerable amount of SPL here
-I sometimes do listen really high dynamic range music and I prefer the peaks to be loud while having the general range to be at a comfortable listening level which is usually on the loud side
-I don't want to turn the volume knob all the way up to avoid channel imbalance and risk potential distortion caused by the amplifier. I would likely have to turn it all the way up on some content if my setup only allowed 106dB without EQ.

Sudden bursts of high SPL like 106dB aren't any more harmful than long sessions of listening at a lower volume. With low dynamic range music the 106dB would most likely do well for me(this depending on the headphone equalization though) but for some content(movies for example) the headroom is really nice to have. Besides the only downside for headroom I can think of is me accidentally turning the volume too high.
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>>52886173
-Put the volume at 100 in Windows or at maximum on whatever OS you are on
-Adjust the volume with the pot
-Maybe install Equalizer APO if you are into that
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>>52886196
go for it, my custom cable is 1,40m, desk length but just a little too long, get one thats 1,20m
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>>52886280
Yeah, unfortunately I can't find the 1,20m cable of that kind anywhere in my country. The shortest one is 1,5m, which is half as long as the stock cable.
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Tonight's the night. I've scoured HPG for weeks now (you might recognize me as the autistic drummer asking for iems and headphones every fucking day) and I've decided my ears have had enough, a click track must be used.

Audio Technica ATM-IM70s cost $100 usd, have the bass end I need as well as the treble, seems like a clean ass deal, but Audio-Technica ATH-M50 studio monitors are the same price used. So if I can get studio monitors for 100 USD, there has to be superior IEMS with the V frequency as well as extreme isolation (not worried about entering the silent world), and great sound quality. I have $150 allocated for these and I'd like them to last until I end up buying customs and a whole plethora of equipment for when the sound guy is the bartender's girlfriend's dog.
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bought sony mdr-v6. how fucked am i?
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>>52886349
if you have your amp on your desk its going to be just as annoying as the 3m one
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>>52884910
it should be clear, fag. The dynamic drivers cant reset themselves in time to keep up with the music. Planars can to some degree, but moving a magnet is still 2 slow. Electrostatics only need to change electricity, so they're by far the fastest to reset back to 0. They say electrostats are like entering a new dimension of sound...
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>>52886372
as long as you filled out the form and made sure its what you want, then you didnt fuck up at all
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>>52886349
you could bypass your problem by wrapping up your 3m cable neatly with zipties or a technique that wont unravel
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Here's how to avoid having cables under your chair and being tangled and on you desk and so on

Buy this hook (or whatever it should be called) and put on the side of your desk
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Headset-Hanger-Wall-PC-Monitor-Stand-For-Universal-Headphone-Black-Holder-/151866425123?hash=item235bf1bf23:g:h5YAAOSwI-BWMYUs

and you get a place to put your headphones too, win win
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>Budget
$120

>Location
America

>Source
PC

>Preferred type of headphone
Full

>Open or closed
Open

>Comfort level
Medium

>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral

>Past Headphones
ATH M50X
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>>52886710
hd558
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>>52886200
It's not 106, it's around 108 dB.
>I don't want to turn the volume knob all the way up to avoid channel imbalance
Do you think they lose matching closer to zero attenuation?
>I sometimes do listen really high dynamic range music
These are more rare than you might think. Movies tend to have a greater dynamic range than music, if not bandwidth.
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hola rato
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hola rato
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>>52886410

Please stop shitposting. Thank you. Why don't you go learn something, instead of trying to argue that stuff works the way you cluelessly think it works? Besides, >>52884282 told you already. Just give up.
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I have a dumb question : do you think your capacity of listening decrease with shitty headphone in years ?
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>>52886950
i dont know, why dont you tell us?
http://a.pomf.cat/fxcvit.opus
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>>52876730
helle rato
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>>52886911
Everything I read from people like Tyll points otherwise. There's a reason why electrostatics exist, and that reason is speed.
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>>52886710
AKG K612
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>>52887051
>speed
leave
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>>52887051
> There's a reason why electrostatics exist, and that reason is speed.
No, that reason is placebo
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>>52887051
Do you know what a spring is? Do you know what a calculus derivative is? They are two different things, believe it or not.

>>52886911
>shitposting
Shitposters don't just stop when you tell them, that's what makes them shitposters.
I, for one, want to see him continue posting stupid remarks.
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>>52887123
>Do you know what a spring is? Do you know what a calculus derivative is? They are two different things, believe it or not.
I dont know calculs, but I know that the best headphone in the world is electrostatic and not your precious dynamic, so there. Tyll's right...dynamic really is mid-fi.
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>>52887160
and yet tyll says the hd800 has the best impulse response in existence
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>>52887176
HD800 is for neophytes
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>>52887160
>I dont know calculs
If you did, we wouldn't be having a conversation about speed.
What you are talking about is the motion of a spring, not so much speed as an abstracted behavior.

>>52887176
>tyll says the hd800 has the best impulse response in existence
It seems like he forgot what an impulse means.
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>>52887176
>>52887123
>>52887051
I don't mean to grind your dreams, but whenever you call Tyll a reliable source of information you should bear in mind that he put one of darkest open headphones in production on his Wall of Fame and that he did this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jxdOEpiCTs
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hello rat
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>>52887640
>and that he did this:
so? This is a Subjective test.
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>>52876730
> complains about shitposters
> starts a hello rato thread
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>>52886357
Nobody replies to me, nothing new there lol.
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hello rato

[extra shit added to get past filter]
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>>52876827
wow, look at this genetic deformity

helo rato
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>>52887640
Opinions don't change the arithemtic or physical reality.

>>52886357
Well IM70 is a solid in-ear. The only real con is the bulky earpiece. If you like the bass lift, it's nice.
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>>52876730
hello rato

Also first for X2 best heaphones and Sennshills blown out of water.
>>
>Budget
$200

>Location
USA

>Source
PC or phone

>Preferred type of headphone
full-sized

>Open or closed
open

>Comfort level
comfortable enough to wear for a couple of hours

>Preferred tonal balance
doesn't matter

>Preferred music
everything

>Past headphones
cheap ear buds and a headset
>>
>>52888246
hd558, 598 is the same thing if you feel like blowing more money
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>>52888246
>>Preferred tonal balance
>doesn't matter

:^)
>>
What headphones are good for sport? Say, about 10 to 30 eurobucks.

helo rato
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>>52888349
in ears prob
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>>52888246
K612
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>>52887051
>and that reason is speed.
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>>52888379
how many times do we have to tell you it needs an amp
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>>52888391
10/10 post
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>>52888394
fuck off senncuck it doesnt
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>>52876730
hello piggu rato
>>
Is it safe to say that xiaomi piston III s are a meme or has someone here actually tried them out
>>
>>52888487
I've tried them out
I find them a bit too bassy and too dark

then again, I like how bright the 668Bs are and apparently they're stupid bright
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>>52888512
they have an insane peak at 5.5k which is the worst part. still bright otherwise but that peak is really bad
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Would it be possible to slap a pair of HM5 pads onto a pair of K612s? The stock pads of the K612 aren't really deep enough and so my ears touch the drivers, which gets uncomfortable after a while.
>>
Hello Rato

also fuck you
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>>52888512
Even for the bargain price? Or is it worth it to invest a bit more. I have a pair of pl50s but i need a cheaper pair that i wont be afraid to lose
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>>52876730
hello rato
pls no baldo
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>>52888666
I mean, the 668bs are only a bit more than the pistons 3
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>>52876730
h e l l o r a t o
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I have 400 usd to spend

Should I buy headphones for that money (with dac) or speakers instead? I have a small room, and I'd need it for music, gaming, movies, etc.

Pic related is the hp+dac I was planning to buy, but maybe some quality $400 studio monitors would be a better choice
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Question: what do you think about 5.1 and 7.1 headphones?

Any worth the purchase?
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>>52876730
hello rato
dont twll me its spam
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>>52888110
Thank you sir, not worried about how big it is, just how comfy it is and how good the sound is
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>>52877293
Beyerdynamics DT990 pro or go for the closed version if too noisey inside.
So. Fucking. Comfy.
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>>52888349
Sennheiser hd 202 ii superior audio quality for price. Been using them for a year now in the gym, the thing is built like a tank.
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>>52888246 see >

>>52889326
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>>52876730
hello
rato
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>>52886410
You can't believe this shit yourself. You clearly have no idea how the speed of the transducer would effect the response here.
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>>52889274
>maybe some quality $400 studio monitors would be a better choice

not without an amp
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>>52889382
Thanks famly, will look into them.
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>>52876730
hello rato

pls captcha my post is not spam i just dont wanna go bald
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>>52889700
is everyone on /fit/ that stupid? i didnt know it was possible to -not- know what was going on
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>>52889587
do I need an amp for something like this?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/M-Audio-BX8-Studio-Monitors-Pair/dp/B005F3H6MC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1455056341&sr=8-1&keywords=M-Audio+BX8+D2
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>>52876730
hello rato

>mfw it won't let me post
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>>52889274
>maybe some quality $400 studio monitors would be a better choice
Different uses. LSR305 is good shit though.
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>>52889312
The size affects the fit. If you prefer a deep fit, the earpiece and large stem complicate that, although it was meant to be a shallow fit design. I found it workable enough.
Sound is good, as long as you want a bass lift.
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>>52889987
Bass lift is nice. Is there anything better in the price range? Shit ships from Hong Kong would rather not wait 3 weeks, if possible.
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>>52890006
sageru, but i've never used IEMS before, to mention.
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>>52889297
No. Instead of two big drivers you get a bunch of tiny ones which are so tightly packed together that it makes little difference and what difference there is is equivalent to what you get with two drivers with a bit of signal processing.
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>>52889297
They're great for any activity which doesn't rely on hearing
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>>52889845
No you don't and yes, they are good
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>>52885383
I merely meant more volume, way past the average listening volume you'd use.
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>>52890049
Most surround sound headphones aren't like that. They are standard headphones with some DSP built in and that is generally garbage.
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>>52890163
So the 5.1/7.1 is just made up bullshit numbers rather than indicate any discrete channels or drivers? Yet another reason why "surround" headphones are shit.
>>
What's a good microphone to use with my K702 for voice chatting?
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>>52890218
well, believe me, actually having real 5.1 or 7.1 in a headphone is a horrible idea anyway, and will sound like shit. but yes, even besides that, theyre lying to you.

the market does not care about anything. delivering you a good product, something that makes technical sense, nor telling the truth. they are simply going to give you what you they think you want, and cut as many corners as possible to get there. the price will be determined ultimately by how many people end up liking it.

and this isnt just headphones of course. its capitalism. welcome to it.
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>>52890264
>actually having real 5.1 or 7.1 in a headphone is a horrible idea anyway
That's what I recall of the original "surround headphones" and you can even find some old Zalmans on overstock.
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>>52890006
eh found them for 70 bucks "used and tested to work"
pulling the trigger, good deal on that, what tips should I buy for maximum comfort and isolation?
>>
Helo rato
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>>52890218
You only need 2 headphone channels to render sound in all possible directions, so there isn't much of reason to get 7 channel sound for any headphone. And what is the ".1" doing anyway?
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>>52876730
hello rato

AKG Q701 master race
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>>52890257
modmic
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>>52890218
Honestly cramming more drivers in an earcup seems like the most retarded idea, way worse than DSP.
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>>52890378
my modmic picks up a lot of background static, is there anything to do to fix this? Kind of annoying when I'm recording stuff or just leaving mic open on skype/etc
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>>52890374
>You only need 2 headphone channels to render sound in all possible directions
No shit? Just like I stated with:
> to what you get with two drivers with a bit of signal processing.

>what is the ".1" doing anyway?
It's supposed to represent the subwoofer. Your typical 5.1 set up is five separate channels, two front speakers + center + two rear satellites, with a subwoofer.

>>52890384
This was from before there was significant DSP.
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>>52890332
They come with a set of kinda stiff stock sleeves and a set of T-500 medium Comply. You can order a larger set of T-500 sleeves, I used Hifiman sleeves, much softer, more variety.

Monster supertips should fit, never tried it. There are others, the head-fi meme sleeves Spiral dot and Spin Fit should also work.
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>>52889845
no you dont. I thought you meant 400$ headphones, my bad.
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>>52890378
Well, duh. I've been trying to find a suitable modmic for a week now, but no luck so far. Ordered about 8 to test them so far.
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>>52890418
could be your input, not the mic. in which case, good luck fixing that without having to buy an audio interface or something
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>>52890418
turn on auto-adjusting mic settings in skype, might be something like that in your mic options in windows control panel or whatever OS you use too
>>
guys, is there any truth to that planar magnetics cant do surround sound dsp as well as dynamics? i read at a bunch of different places that planars have a very "linear" sound so they wouldnt be as good at it. i dont really know how all the technology works so unless someone can explain it, ill never really know
>>
has anyone ever tried these?

>>52876730
hello rato!
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>>52890492
found it, thanks senpai. dunno why I didn't look there before, was going as far as putting in noise gates in OBS and Premiere which didn't really work that well
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>>52890595
That'll make your voice sound really artificial and compressed. It probably wont matter much on a Skype call however.
>>
helo rato
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>>52888487
I have them, and I like them.

They're a bit on the V-shaped side of neutral, but the detail, dynamic range and build quality are surprisingly good for the price.
>>
>>52877956
http://dealnews.com/Apple-Ear-Pods-with-Remote-Mic-w-Case-for-9-free-shipping/1573879.html
>>
Are HD600s worth $328?
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>>52891123
No the k702 is better
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>>52891136
Why do you believe that?
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>>52891166
because hes the resident akg shill
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>>52876730
Hello rato

Hello gook, thanks for filter :^)
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>>52891136
>K702
>better than the HD600
yeah no
>>
>Budget
90-120 flexable
>Location
US
>Source
PC/Phone/mixer (Has like 10db gain)
>Preferred type of headphone
Over Ear
>Open or closed
Kinda want to get some opens, but no real preference
>Comfort level
Glasses
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral or a bit bass heavy
>Preferred music
Ambient, sludge, speed metal
>Past headphones
AKG K152
Some sony ear buds for on the go MDR some things
Xaiomi Piston 3s
>>
helo rato
>>
>>52891221
>open headphones with accentuated bass at that price point
not easy to do. just go with neutral instead, hd558
>>
H E L L O R A T O
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'ello rato
>>
I have a Schiit Magni, asus xonar stx, and a HD650.

Should I get a dedicated DAC, or is the STX sufficient enough?
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>>52891123

had that, 650, and some grados.

They're the most clear out of all of those, but don't have much color or liveliness to them. If you want to hear every scratch of a string drawn over a violin or need reference cans, then go for it. If you're looking for something fun, something bassy, or something with character... look elsewhere.
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>>52891338
its not just sufficient enough, you will not hear any difference
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>>52891407

thanks friend! appreciate it.

do you know much about tube amps? I was thinking of maybe getting a much more expensive amp, but I'm not sure if I'd actually get any gains over my current setup.

any advice?

doesn't help that my source is usually HQ spotify, but you know.
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>>52891461
tube amps are old technology that create 2nd harmonic distortion which changes the audio. the way it distorts may be pleasing to the ear, but at /hpg/ we just dont see the point when using the HQ to up bass or treble is much simpler, cheaper, etc. if youre not interested in coloring all your audio, stick with your magni 2, which is a great amp
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>>52891511
>HQ
damnit, EQ
>>
Currently borrowing my normalfag parent's Bose AE2w headphones and they're pretty nice.

Would never buy Bose but they do have good quality.
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>>52891573
if theyre anything like the ae2, they dont look too bad.
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>>52891511
>>52891529

Guess I'll just sit on this setup then. Thought I could throw money at it to get something out of it, but you've sufficiently talked me out of it.
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>>52891614
yes. unfortunately, it doesnt get much better (if at all really...) than what you have. the hd650 are lacking a bit of treble, but not much. it's their only problem, other than the fact that the harman curve would suggest you up your bass, which you could try with an eq. you will probably like it if the curve is accurate at all.
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Does anyone know of a website for buying headphones that won't charge me an arm and a leg? Most places I see want rediculous amounts of money for shipping just because I live in Canada.

Also, if you know of a store in Canada that actually sells headphones, I would appreciate that too.
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>>52891636
yeah youre fucked in canada, i dont know what to tell you. if you live near the border, come buy something in the US
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>>52891612
They're just Bluetooth AE2s
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>>52891633

I usually boost my bass, it's the thing that's keeping my setup from being perfect.

Was thinking of getting a pair of J.V.C HA-SZ2000 for a complete change of pace a while ago.
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>>52891659
well, thanks anyways.
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>>52876730
hello rato

Are the X2s worth it? I want to pick up a used pair on Amazon, but after hearing about the Gibson problems, I'm a little skeptical.
>>
>>52891673
oh okay. their curve is pretty decent. a bit too much rolloff in the early treble, and it spikes back a bit too much in mid treble but its not bad by any means. bass is probably a bit high but people probably enjoy that (im just speaking from a neutrality perspective)

>>52891675
i cant find data on those headphones so i wouldnt recommend buying them. any veteran from this thread would never buy nor recommend a phone that hasnt been measured yet. i suggest you use a parametric EQ to get everything out of the hd650 that you want.

>>52891688
sorry mate.

>>52891705
gibson problems?

new thread
>>52891728
>>52891728
>>52891728
>>
hello rato

fucking spam filter
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>>52891166
Any sane person belives that the k702 is better than that vintage senngarbage
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>>52890549

bullshit
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>>52891636
Headphonebar, bay bloor radio. Headfone shop if you can get past their dreadful webpage and Comic Sans.

>>52890549
No. Will elaborate later.
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>>52892650
>No. Will elaborate later.
i would love that, thanks! im in the new thread and will monitor it.
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>>52876730
helo rato
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