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what's the biggest breakthrough that will make humanoid robots more common in homes?
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>>52864811
Proper articulation in synthetic limbs
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>>52864820
should they be powered by pneumatic actuators/servos, with perhaps an electroactive polymer/dielectric elastomer layer on top to simulate muscles flexing?
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Id say a strong, cheap compound/alloy needed to support its frame. Carbon fiber would be nice but too expensive. I think at this point the electronics/CPU/software/motors are all feasible, just not the physical aspect itself for consumer-grade purchasing
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>>52864984
would a metal matrix composite of carbon fiber and aluminum lower the economy of scale for a fabrication plant?
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>>52864856
Personally i'd go for whichever is smoother, i've been kinda obsessed with the idea of cyborgs for a while so i'm incredibly excited with some of the things i've seen recently. But the movement is frankly far to stiff to really use efficiently. There's also the issue with controlling the things with sufficient accuracy.
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We would need batteries or some other type of portable power supply, maybe 10x to 100x as powerful (in terms of capacity, without reducing discharge rates) as the ones we have nowadays.
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>>52865049
wew. that would involve a ton of advancements from condensed matter physics, physical chemistry, and material science no?
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>>52865097
It would definitely require huge advances, who knows from what field (a solution might come from a completely unexpected place) -- but that's basically the type of advance we need to really make humanoid robots a reality.

Creating more energy-efficient solutions for actuators and such will help as well, of course.
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>>52864856
Unfortunately, pneumatics require too much power to be used for long periods of time.
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>>52865049
Instead of increasing battery capacity, we just need to develop a battery that is malliable and soft like fatty tissue, then give the robots thick asses and thighs with it.
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>>52865190
genius

it'll probably still weigh a ton, though
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>>52865147
>>52865139
so batteries are the main thing holding back robots huh. that's a shame. i've studied a lot of areas and increasing battery density is probably the most difficult thing next to unifying gravity and quantum mechanics. i've heard of strides in nanowires being used to increase the area of reaction for electrodes, but even then it's not 10x or 100x better. damn, i just can't see what we'd need for such a jump.
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>>52864811
What's with all these non answers in this thread?

The answer is just give them a vagina
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>>52865205
Fake vaginas don't need a breakthrough. Theyve pretty much been perfected.
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>>52865203
ye, larger battery capacities are basically the thing that holds back most "things".

In most cases we've pushed all the other components far enough that battery capacity becomes the big issue... electric cars, drones, mobile phones/laptops/tablets, etc

If battery capacity would be increased by 10x-100x today, there would be basically no reason to ever use gas-powered cars again, to not put powerful x86 CPUs with 8 cores into your phone (well, sans the hole it will burn in your leg), to have robots walking around like humans and dogs, to have drones that can even lift humans, etc.
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>>52864811

Synthetic flesh and organs.
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>>52865254
hmm, maybe i should focus my postdoc research on battery technology. i was originally studying cuprate superconductors to use as servos in robots so they can be cooled with magnetic refrigeration techniques, but maybe i could postpone that for another year.
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>>52864811
Pricing and funcionality. Right now we're paying 200$ for something that does a crappy job at cleaning the floor.

We need to pay 200$ for something that does a lot more than that.
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>>52864820
Beat me to it. Human movement is fucking complicated. We still barely understand it and even if we did that's just the first step to actually replicating it.
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>>52864856
This is where my money's at but all synthetic muscles that use them so far take too long to relax and don't allow for fluid motion. Maybe I should become a chemist instead of a computer scientist.
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>>52865049
I got ya Gucci. Graphine supercapacutors.
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>>52865374
i'm debating on becoming a material science, it seems that if one area is not gonna cut it, it will let me jump ship on another easier, or is that not the case? my other idea was physics with a ton of mathematics on the side.
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>all these people saying battery
Frankly i'd rather have a robot that's plugged in but capable of BASIC MOVEMENT over a robot has a battery but can hardly walk.
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>>52865411
I wanted to do CS with a double major in Math but those are both poverty tier stem choices so lately I've been thinking that I should just go for something completely different. Its still early enough for me.
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>>52865441
those two things have nothing to do with each other
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>>52865494
i don't think CS with math is poverty tier. have you considered going into 3DCG or fluid simulation? those are areas in which you can't really call someone poor, since it's pretty much paramount to a lot of industries.
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>>52865411
>>52865441
W-What?!
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>>52865515
>>52865541
They are saying that a battery is more important to household robots than proper movement.
Ofcourse i'm going to call them out on how stupid that is.
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>>52865554
wireless charging should fix the power issue. just fill your walls with copper coils and don't own small pets
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>>52865531
Haha I hadn't really considered what I'd do with the degrees yet. I was just sort of going into what interested me that wasn't something like feminist dance theory. I'll look into that.
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I'll elaborate.
A robot which has a battery but poor articulation isn't going to be much different than the shitty robots you can get and build today. They're going to be a shitty gimmick.
A robot that can cook or clean but has to be plugged in would have actual use.
>>52865578
That would be far more expensive to install than a solid, and quite superior europlug.
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>>52865554
I guess it really comes down to what we'd use the robot for. If its purely for maidshit then it'll need fantastic articulation but if it's just a walking onahole then it just needs to move. Maybe not even that much.
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>>52865203
What about that thing they did in Ex Machina, have the whole floor at home full of coils to charge your waifubot through induction?
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>>52865631
I'd still rather have a walking onahole with handjob features.
>>52865608
I mean the CEE-7 plug.
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>>52864811
>what's the biggest breakthrough that will make humanoid robots more common in homes?
You need to rephrase this question to: What's the biggest OBSTACLE to making robots more common in homes... and the answer is women/feminists. Because regardless of if robots are invented or not, women will almost immediately outlaw them.
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>>52865656
Why not get the extension set and give your maid a handjob?
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>>52865741
>and the answer is women/feminists
anon pls.

nobody cares what they think.
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has anyone ever used an electrostatic loudspeaker as an artificial vocal chord? i always wondered how it would sound chambered in an esophagus. maybe give a bit of realism if the mouth was fleshy.
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>>52865760
>nobody cares what they think.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-34118482
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>>52865760
That's what people said when they went after vidya, now look at how shit vidya have become
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>>52865742
that's way too expensive.

on a side, i wonder if quantum/superconducting logic will play a major role in how we program machines. higher FLOP count could let them detect and recognize more shit, but with the way cloudfags are going i think it's going to be cast aside. feels awful
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Advanced AI
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>>52865867
>person has opinion on thing
Big whoop. It'll sell, there's way more lonely fags who want to fugg XJ-9 than there's outraged feminists, and they will eagerly throw their neetbux at anyone promising them sweet gyndroid pussy.
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>>52865760
>ignoring cancer
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my life as a teenage sexbot (tm)
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>>52865867
>sexbots are completely off limits
>war drones are totally fine tho
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>>52865956
>Big whoop. It'll sell
Not if it's illegal anon. They will outlaw it. Just search and you will find similar articles all written by women. They will take you robot-waifu.
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>>52866086
Women really aren't powerful (or united) enough for that. Not for long, anyway.
It's not like men stopped vibrators from existing, so pretty sure women aren't able to stop progress, either.
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>>52866110
>women aren't able to stop progress
That's ALL they do.
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>>52864984
cfrp is only expensive because of the tooling it requires
It's just extruded carbon and plastic, 2 extremely cheap materials
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>>52866132
And how's that working out for them?
Because there's literally public toilets where you can buy hookers, condoms or onaholes, whichever tickles your fancy.
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>>52866164
aren't hookers illegal in ameritardland?
I don't entirely get their shit over there so I may be wrong
gues we here in europe will get sexbots while they won't
I'm fine with that
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>>52866132
Are you, by chance, a virgin?
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>>52866195
I don't know, I'm not American either.
I can see it taking longer there maybe, but eventually the march of progress won't be halted by a bunch of crazy people. It never is.
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>>52866196
>virgin calling out other virgins
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>>52866164
>how's that working out for them?
http://deadline.com/2015/11/zoe-quinn-crash-override-gamergate-memoir-amy-pascal-1201611420/
http://www.thewrap.com/gamergate-movie-scarlett-johansson-amy-pascal-zoe-quinn/
>Zoe Quin gets memoir book deal
>Zoe Quin gets movie deal based on book
They are getting rich.

http://www.polygon.com/2015/9/25/9399169/united-nations-women-cyber-violence-anita-sarkeesian-zoe-quinn
>Zoe Quin and Anita Sarkeesian at the UN
They are getting people of power to listen to them.
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>>52865254
So that meme about battery capacity could be ten times what our is right now but it's being held back by a few patents or something isn't true?
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>>52865956
>"It'll sell, there's way more lonely fags who want to fugg XJ-9 than there's outraged feminists, and they will eagerly throw their neetbux at anyone promising them sweet gyndroid pussy"
>A robot wouldn't even deny you sex saying "I have a headache tonight" or make drama out of everything
Well, it'll certainly be a rough battle against the feminists. But I am optimistic.
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>>52866257
I have no idea who these people are, as I understand it they're talking about video games, why should I care about that? It's of no importance and has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
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>>52866257
>Zoe Quin gets movie deal based on book
alright I'm done. I'm gonna walk away from my computer for a while. Bye.
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>>52864811
I want to smash her so badly
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>>52866314
Does she make you ROCK hard anon?
You not getting your recommended daily dose of iron?
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>>52866314
why would you smash a robot you just bought from Toys R Us?
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>>52864811
No idea but it can't come soon enough OP. Add full cyborg bodies to that as well.
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>>52866314
I only just now realized that I always imagine androids having blue hair and pale skin because of her. Still fucking robots is a waste of technology.
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>>52866447
get a load of this fag
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>>52866447
>Still fucking robots is a waste of technology
A lot of things are. What harm is it to add one more thing to the collection.
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>>52866447
>fucking robots is a waste of technology
Excuse me, nigger?
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>>52866447
>he thinks that being able to plow XJ9 is a fruitless endeavor

tell that to my dick bud!
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>>52866447
Creating fuck machines is the be-all end-all to technological and human advancement. Everything in our history since we started planting crops has been to advance this dream. Thousands of years of knowledge, struggle, blood, tears, and spirit have been all toward this one thing...

To fuck robots.
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>>52866447
>not wanting to dick Jenny
>not wanting to make women practically obsolete and powerless
Oh come on Anon, what're you, a fag? It will be fun.
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>>52866548
>Thousands of years of knowledge, struggle, blood, tears, and spirit have been all toward this one thing... To fuck robots.
Humanity really is beautiful.
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>>52866581
>what're you, a fag
ye.
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>>52866709
Well there'll be, I don't know, Matt Bomer sexbots too.
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>>52866787
that's be the problem

many "intelligent" people will make the switch to artificial pleasure from actual robots that fulfill all your fetishes
women and men alike
I _guess_ most of these people will be indians, chinese, japanese, a huge group of caucasians
other ethnicities will be a minority and they will keep breeding like rabbits
this will change the face of mankind in the long run >in >100 years after they refine sexrobots to be perfect
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>>52866944
Who cares, by then I'll have a perfect Jenny and/or catgirl sexbot harem and probably VR good enough so I don't have to give a shit about anything happening outside my bedroom.
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>>52866944
I fucked up so much in that post
I have to get some sleep
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>>52866944
but at the same time with the current course of econimics, medical tech, birth rates, space tech ect. most people in those minorities will honestly either be dead or part of some generic future lower middle class where their birth rates will be just as low as everyone else and they'll be able to afford robo waifus just as easily.
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>>52867130
Snowcrash fucking WHEN
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>>52865925
>i wonder if quantum/superconducting logic will play a major role in how we program machines.

Not likely, besides we can't program strong ai, it has to come through ANNs, and we're decades and decades away from strong ai on that front.
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>>52866258
It isn't true at all, it's purely a technological and research cost issue.
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>>52867198
dat graphene tho
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>>52866299
>talks about robots
>why should I care about feminists who want to make them illegal
>doesn't understand
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wouldn't there be a conflict, like what if they trapped you until they sexual satisfied you.
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>>52867503
>trapped you until they sexual satisfied you
>this could be a problem
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>>52867503
>wouldn't there be a conflict
>like what if they trapped you until they sexual satisfied you
>a conflict
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>>52867503
>conflict
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>>52867167
>it has to come through ANNs
No it doesn't! End this meme! anns guess a set of output data based on some input using calculus and are hardly ever correct enough to be the basis of a strong AI. It'll just be one of the many different things that go into it.
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>>52867489
They're just some squawking harpies. Nobody cares what they have to say.
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>>52867748
This is why Gamergate was lost.
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>>52866257
What the fucking shit.

>>52867748
You underestimate their power. We all did.
But they're not powerful enough to shut down everything, that's for sure.
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>>52867924
Can someone in short, non-memetastic sentences explain what this was all about, andwhy it is in any form important to anyone outside of /v/ and a bunch of bitches on gawker or wherever?
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making feminism obsolete
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someone post AUTOCOCKS ROLL OUT
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>>52868789
It was never important. Some chick allegedly sucked some cocks to get her game noticed by a few review sites. /v/ blew it out of proportion thinking that they could do something do destroy SJWs or whatever the fuck. It backfired in a spectacular way and everyone just supported the chick who was being bullied by internet retards.
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>>52868789
Initial event: Female game developer receives rave reviews from Kotaku. Game is actually awful, and she was dating a games journalist from Kotaku. People point out this breach of integrity.

Response event: Said female, and collection of third-wave feminists supporting her, say pointing out this conflict of interest is an invasion of her privacy and is slut shaming, representative of rape culture and the patriarchy in the industry.

Tenfold reaction: People are incensed that someone would try to defend an obvious breach of journalistic integrity by constructing a victim complex; through which anything they do is defensible and even asking questions about their actions is condemnable.

Internet Anonymity: Being anonymous on the internet, people spew hatespeech and idle threats. Other people read idle threats as genuine assault and come whiteknighting.
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>>52864811
Real women getting worse and you being able to buy perfection.
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>>52865190
Im not sure if i want to fuck a battery.
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>>52865049
The act of fucking your robot is literally a piston in action. Surely you can power it through regular fucking.
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>>52866581
>making a strong and independent female submissive and obedient using dick
That's pretty hot, it's one of my fetishes
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>>52864811
>>52866314
God, Jenny Wakemen is so hot
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>>52868789
For now, it's only important in the video game world. But there are no bounds to which these women go by. And with them is an army of white knights that will do anything for them for the slim, highly improbable chance of going on a date with said woman. When in reality, these women are intentionally using them for their will and will immediately discard them or make them feel like shit when they have run their course or do something to defy her.

Man is being emasculated. It's their goal to remove that power. It just has to start somewhere. As long as there is a company out there that doesn't give any fucks about what some slut on the internet has to say, we will eventually get sexbots.
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10/10 thread. I love technology and I would love to fuck Jenny too!
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>>52864811
The part where we give up on the whole "humans are equal, every life is precious" pretense, start lobotomizing retards, criminals and other undesirables to harness their brains with computer control. Human body is cheap and relatively good hardware as is, they just need better control logic.
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>>52870619
edgy/10
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>>52870619
>implying you won't be the first to be lobotomized if that ever happens
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>>52864811
I seriously doubt fuccbots are anywhere near a level where they'd be quality investments. It could be at least 15 years before there is even a product to market, let alone acceptance by people.
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>>52867503
>Death by snu-snu
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>>52865741
>women will almost immediately outlaw them
if this happens it's proof that women provide little use outside of sex and sandwich-making

let's hope they aren't that pathetic
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>>52870619
Now that's what i call edgy.
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>>52866196
Are you, by chance, a cuck?
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>buy female robot waifu
>robot pussy too good
>women on suicide watch
>male robot waifu doesn't pay alimony
>women become absolutely degenerate for any man
>tfw women become sex slaves to compete with female robot waifus


>female AI becomes available
>no periods, bitching, alimony, cheating, lies, or choosing a vibrator/dog/bedpost over you
>sales increase, women uneasy, demand male AI
>men:NOPE, suck it bitch
>small percentage of females revert to lesbians to survive
>remainder gang up, roving gangs of horny women
>man-rape becomes a reported crime, and not a laughing joke
>going out requires travel in a car, armed escort
>stories of men being captured and used as fucktoys
>women begging on the roadside, "will suck cock for food"
>women start to dress slutty as normal behavior, will get as close to nude as the law allows
>decency laws overturned, women allowed to run around naked, act like whores
>lines of women outside of homes, groups walking door to door, begging for a fuck
>pregnancy highly desirable, women now spread their legs when they see a man go by in hopes he will fuck them
>society in crisis, hordes of horny naked unemployed women desperate
>laws changed, polygamy allowed
>most men can now take in 2-3 wives on the condition they remain loyal for life
>women gladly sign up, become nothing more than sex slaves for breeding

This is why women fear female AI robots.
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Can we just get Rosie before we try for Jenny
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>>52865224
Show me one that's actuated, self-heating, self-cleaning and lasts for ten years.
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They will never see wide adoption for the same reason most single straight guys aren't enjoying boipucci right now. They want a real woman for emotional/social shit. Their egos won't even let them use tools for masturbating.
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>>52871501
implying i wouldn't want rosie to tap as well.
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>>52867503
>conflict
>trapped you until they sexual satisfied you
>conflict

Do you have the gay?
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>>52871484
>buy male robot husbando
>robot penis too good
>men on suicide watch
>female robot husbando doesn't pay alimony
>men become absolutely degenerate for any man
>tfw men become sex slaves to compete with male robot husbandos

>male AI becomes available
>no arrogance, laziness, jackass, testosterone, or cheating on you with a different woman
>sales increase, men uneasy, demand female AI
>women: NOPE, suck it dick
>small percentage of males revert to homosexuality/transgender to survive
>remainder gang up, roving gangs of horny men
>woman-rape becomes a reported crime, and is still a laughing joke
>going out requires travel in a car, armed escort
>stories of women being captured and used as fucktoys
>men begging on the roadside, "will suck for food"
>men start to dress slutty as normal behavior, will get as close to nude as the law allows
>decency laws overturned, men allowed to run around naked, act like whores
>lines of men outside of homes, groups walking door to door, begging for a fuck
>intercourse no longer needed, civilization starts to decline as men are no longer needed
>society in crisis, hordes of horny naked unemployed men desperate
>laws changed, polygamy allowed
>most women can now take in 2-3 husbands on the condition they remain loyal for life
>men gladly sign up, become nothing more than sex slaves for breeding

Face it, if it wasn't for opening jars of pickles and sperm, men would be useless. We already have ways of converting a female egg into sperm. Now all that's left is getting /fit/
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>>52864811
They need to be capable of doing something useful. In the house this means cooking, cleaning, folding clothes, and other 'chores'.

These are tasks that are difficult for robots to do. Operating in an unstructured environment is hard. Hell even getting robots to pick up and manipulate stuff is really fucking hard.

To solve this, we really need better AI. Better batteries and synthetic muscle are useless if said robot can't do anything useful with them.

Unfortunately, we might end up solving these problems with 'cloud robotics'. IE robot sends image to cloud, cloud says can is at xyz and is mountain dew, here is the best way to pick up can, as determined by hundreds of trials from other robots picking up the same type of can.
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i want to get one to install gentoo on it and see what happens
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>>52871855
>this roastie wrote all that due to sheer butthurt over reality

lol!
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>>52871855
tits or gtfo slut
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>>52871855
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Beautiful
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>>52872051
holy fuck fix your font.
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>>52871855
The difference being, in this situation, that men would be more likely to put their hands to action to fix whatever they aren't comfortable with. Women, in general, are much more likely to resort to making drama out of things not going their way, as proven by their behavior over the years.
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>>52871855
Stay delusional you soon to be obsolete whore
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>>52870619
Not only is this edgy but it's also stupid and demonstrates a profound lack of an understanding of technology. So, ya know. Good on ya there.
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>>52872004
My entire post was to prove a point. Women would just switch to sexbots too. But unlike men, women don't need men to get them pregnant. Our society would nearly topple, and the m/f ratio would be heavily skewed.

But something like this would probably never happen in our lifetimes. And in all likeliness, something similar from Futurama where Human/Robot relationships are seen as forbidden would happen. Plus, the mass majority is always going to seek a relationship, no matter how dysfunctional, over a robot. There's a humanistic feeling about it that a robot can't replicate. But that doesn't mean the couple won't own a sexbot. It'd just be a more advance sextoy+maid
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>>52872302
except men are the only ones smart enough to develop the robots and in vitro technology in the first place...
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>>52871855
Should go watch any competitive show about survival and just see how wemon ran societies end up.

>p.s. they implode and suffer wemon are the inferior sex in all ways
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>>52871484
I got hard just reading it
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>>52867503
Are you even man?
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>>52872418
I don't really see what gender has to do with developing advanced AI, it will likely be a team of people anyway not a single person.
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>>52871855
>>52872302
Are you fucking kidding me?
I've been a kissless virgin all my life, and I'd say about 20% of the people currently on /g/ are as well, not including the fucking 12 year olds. Hasn't hurt my productivity yet.

What's a few more years?

> inb4 "it was all a ruse", or "lol i got u" and it's derivatives
> Captcha: DEAD RUE
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>>52871855
And who's going to program the male bots? Women? Get outta here.
If men do then it would be a strictly gay AI. And besides, men would just fix the situation.
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>>52871855
>roving gangs of horny men
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>>52872675
A team of which 95-100% are men.
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>>52872814
Yeah, sure. Why not.
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I just want jenny already, this loneliness makes me want to kill myself.
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>>52865205
No, give them giant futa cocks.
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>>52871855
...and how exactly are you going to afford a robot husbando once prostitution is no longer a viable source of income?
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>>52872991
Holy shit anon, now she won't show her tits or his bopucci, cause tears now.
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>>52867503
That is quite literally my fetish
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>>52872991
...and how exactly are you going to afford a robot waifu living off autismbux and welfare?
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>>52864811
>>52866314
> Fat slut
Fucking gross. Jenny is 100% flat.
See >>52866267 and pic related
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>>52873148
I'm gonna make an always-online DRM VR waifu sim with monthly subscription fees
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>>52873148
> tumblr
Checkmate indeed.

> autismbux and welfare?
lol buttcoins obv
or just lock a game behind a bunch of surveys


I just want my lolibots.
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>>52866340
I see what you did there.
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>>52873222
Nice trips. I secede then.

>>52873249
>"it's a tumblr filename so it invalidates your argument"
I could have literally changed the filename. Besides, I got it off google images. Not that I give a shit because you will use ad hominem as your logic.

>lolibots
I do too, but I think that's borderline illegal. That's crossing the boundaries between fake and real.
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>>52873173
She's a fucking robot, people can modify her however they want.
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>>52873331
> She's a fucking robot, people can modify her however they want.
> people can modify her however they want.
> implying she isn't proprietary
> implying there's an aftermarket
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>>52872475
You mean this?
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>>52873304
> >"it's a tumblr filename so it invalidates your argument"
I wasn't even arguing with you.
But I digress.
> I could have literally changed the filename. Besides, I got it off google images. Not that I give a shit because you will use ad hominem as your logic.
Wow. You're a faggot.

> I do too, but I think that's borderline illegal. That's crossing the boundaries between fake and real.
Doesn't matter if it's "borderline illegal", it's still legal, just like how nudist pix are legal.
If you're worried about whether or not alphabet soup will come knocking, then manufacturers will make the bots and make them fully functional as "art pieces" or "science projects" or whatever, bypassing a purported overextension of obscenity in Miller v. California. Then, 3rd parties will create an aftermarket for hardware and software for more nefarious purposes.

If you live in some other freedom-hating country, I feel for you. Chances are you may not get your bots, even if they weren't loli.
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>>52871946
This would be a cool project.
>reminder
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>>52873701
I live in Aus. It's practically illegal for me to be in a bikini because I'm borderline flatchested.
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>>52874214
M E L B O U R N E!
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>>52864811
Augmented remote control

Get some random third-world wagecucks to pilot the robot as needed for particularly complex tasks. Have AI handle everything routine.
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>>52874347
Been tried, doesn't work, too expensive:
http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/robotics-software/the-heaphy-project

>>52874025
Are you telling me you want cloud robotics? Cloud robotics is the most botnet thing EVER.

Also, no one in the robotics community cares about robot waifus.
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>>52864811
>>52866314
>>52873173
Jenny is a perfect cutie flat or not.
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>>52874487
not in the field, I agree, botnet as fuck
>imagine there being a database of now peopel fuck their robot and the best sex moves.
on a small scale for testing and rapid prototyping thougt it would shorten dev time by years.
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>>52865638
Induction has terribly low efficiency, it would be a waste of electricity.
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>>52874025
i didn't ask for those feels anon
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>>52864811
Sexbots aren't happening until materials science and engineering starts advancing at the speed of computing, you'll just have to live with VR and AR waifus controlling your household devices until then.
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