bought a 2015 13 inch pro last year, honestly i don't see myself ever going back to a wondows laptop, the combination of the os running smooth, great display, battery life and trackpad is something that i just don't see on other laptops. also for the expensive arguments, what other laptop with a high res ips display, 10 hours of battery life, high speed ssd, and similar ram and cpu is much cheaper?
>>52859296 I might, if i get a laptop it would be for little coding which i could do in a mac, and lots of editing which its the only thng macs are good for, besides that i wouldnt like to play games on a laptop, i rather just wait til i get home and play on my main rig
They just break every few years and I have to get a new one or pay crazy money to Apple. Too much planned obsolescence built in to their products. Windows 10 Pro is much more fun to use as are my various VMs when I have need of them. Got a bad ass tower that I can upgrade and tweak at will. I'll never go back to Mac.
>>52860652 >All other trackpads are dogshit All trackpads are dogshit. Once you go Trackpoint, you don't go back. I've been using the rMBP Force Touch trackpad for a while and while it is much better than anything else, trackpads are just plain shitty. No I don't want to move my whole fucking hand off the home row to move the fucking cursor around.
>>52859661 Nigger, attach any mouse with a right click button and it works. Use two fingers on the touchpad, like how you would on a mouse, and it right clicks. You can even set the right click to the lower right of the touchpad which is the degenerate way almost all other laptops have it.
>shit hardware >overpriced no, it's not. At least for the macbook pro or macbook air. It's a neat price considering you can get an i7, a few gigs of RAM, PCIe SSD and a neat, slim and lightweight design.
Windows-based laptops with the same speccin are usually in the same price range.
I've considered a macbook, but I don't have the cash for it. I'd rather spend that money on food :b
Apples biggest selling point is the simplicity in their product offering.
If I dont know shit about technology I dont want to go into best buy or microcenter and have to trust some guy behind the counter. Thats how your mom comes home with a 1000+ "Gamingware pc" that doesnt even come with a graphics card.
So where do I go? I just walk into an Apple store.
I haven't used a Mac in couple of years but my early 2011 MBP had pretty bad cooling - so bad in fact that in hot summer days the fans would go full speed while watching movies, and those fans were loud as fuck too. Does newer models have the same issue?
>>52859352 >Command key is fucking stupid and I will not tolerate this blatant disconnect of usability if I am to switch between a standard keyboard and the fucked up Mac keyboard the position of the command key actually makes sense. you can just rest your hand there and use a lot of common keybinds without stretching your hand too much. your thumb rests comfortably on the cmd thing. on a normal keyboard you either have to do friggin thumb acrobatics or use your pinky finger which is just as awkward.
the reason there's a ctrl key in addition to the cmd key is so that the keyboard can also be used on windows. on older macs, there's no ctrl key, as you can see in the picture.
if anything, what's retarded is the inclusion more importantly the position of the windows key on "normal" PC keyboards. it's so prominent, and for what? there's maybe four or five useful keybinds, that's it.
i don't even know how you came to your conclusion there, you probably didn't think much about the whole thing.
>>52861852 i don't know, but i used to have some version of ubantoo or debian running on my macbook back when. compatibility with linux distros is usually pretty good, even minor stuff like hotbuttons and keyboard backlight works; probably because there's a lot of macfags even amongst floss people and there's a limited range of products so making drivers isnt too much of a hassle.
>>52861727 >business laptops >business laptops use this >it is used for le ebin srs BUSINESS it's funny how people use this as this sort of killer argument. 9 times out of 10 a business laptop is a shitty cheap chinkputer prescribed by the IT slaves at corporate. the deciding factor is price, not if it's good tech, as long as it can run the companies own 20 year old management software.
that's not to say trackpoint is bad (or good) it's just a shit argument
>>52862008 >Macs and apple products in general are overpriced as fuck generally yes, however mbp/mba have a somewhat fair price for a mid/high end flagship. >,they offer no freedom/flexibility that's partially true, partially a meme. you can install whatever OS you want. it's true that the literally solder the thing shut so that's retarded >only exclusive peripherals. that's just blatantly untrue.
>>52862022 >Can the same be said about ThinkPads? afaik yes. a lot of people in the ubuntu forums (you know ... those guys who post detailed hardware specs all over their signature) had thinkpads.
>>52862072 Seriously it's not worth it,i can't stress enough that PCs are just better than Macs.I mean,you can't play games on Linux systems but they are efficient for other stuff.Macs are literally not efficient for anything.They are weak,can't play most games and are generally way worse than cheaper PCs.
The 13 inch MBP is pretty much the best laptop at its price point right now. You can't get a high ppi screen, great battery life, and PCIe storage for $1300 from anyone else. The XPS 13 comes close but falls short on the battery life. When Apple updates to Skylake, they will be on top again.
>>52862096 >,i can't stress enough that PCs are just better than Macs friendly reminder that anyone making a generalized statement like this is obviously not capable of critical thinking and should not be listened to.
I've got a MBP. It's great for what it is and I wouldn't use a Windows laptop to do the same thing. Except maybe a Surface/Surface Book because it's convenient.
I don't play games on it. I write documents, edit photos, watch videos etc. It's perfect, and it works perfectly fine for what I'm using it for. I do wish I had the 15-inch one now, but it's expensive, and I don't really need it. This will probably make someone mad, but I like nice things, and I like being called Pajeet by fish on an Italian mafiaboard.
In my current position I don't have a ton of money to spend so I bought into the Thinkpad meme. I mean as far as shit I do on a daily basis it's perfect. Maybe I'm just used to cheap shit as well since I grew up in a poor household. If I had more money would I get one? I'd consider it, but OS X honestly isn't my cup of tea.
>>52862129 >I'd consider it, but OS X honestly isn't my cup of tea. then no. coming from a macfriend.
although if you never used OSX for more than an hour or two i'd give it a try if you get an opportunity to do so (maybe borrow one or whatever). OSX is what makes macbooks great (or not, if you really dislike it)
>>52862151 except for all the programs they're used to, sync/cloud features, the way things work in general; not to mention they'd have to go from the real thing to a blatant ripoff (just look at the chromebook pixel and tell me the designers haven't been a little too vigorously "inspired" by a certain consumer tech brand)
>>52862163 >Kill yourself. Thanks for proving my point.
If i wanted an elegant looking PC, i'd just get a nice Corsair/Fractal/Bitfenix/Phantex case, and i'd at least have some proper airflow compared to house burning Macs with all their throttling and shit.
If i wanted to look like i had money, i'd just buy Alienware much like rich people buy Ferrari and edgy supercars instead of "elegant" luxury sedans and limos.
Alienware both costs more than Appleshit (which indicates i have more money) and it can play games and run multiple OSs if i wanted so including the ability to be a Hackintosh (which means i'm a money waster, but not as dumb as Applefags).
It's quite a thing when even Alienware buyers are objectively more respectable and intelligent than an Applefag.
>>52862341 It's not a comeback, i'm just stating the facts. Applefags are basically like that middle-class person who wants to appear high-class, but can only afford something that "looks" high-class yet isn't. It's all about appearances to them, just like how autistic neckbeards think a fedora makes them look classy and dignified.
>>52859296 >bought dell inspirion 800$ . >has 960m >fallout 4 43fps, dolphin emulation shit, ssd samsung stick it in , every retro shit on it, battery life actually good , never hot, 1920*1080 resolution screen (don't have 4k faggot shit don't want it
>>52862333 >pretty rare It's pretty rare but you don't want to be caught if you have disposable income. And with any decent tech salary buying the stuff you want to watch/listen isn't a noticeable hit to your finances. And if you have any other hobbies buying a few blu rays every now and then isn't even that expensive compared to pretty much any other hobby.
I understand torrenting the chinese cartoons you want to watch since their availability in the west is somewhat limited.
>>52861107 on the thinkpad i also use the trackpoint, but the trackpad on the macbook can actually be used with the thumbs without taking your fingers off the home row. also trackpads are comfy for just browsing around /g/ when you don't need the keyboard, but for that purpose the thinkpad trackpad does the job as well.
>>52862563 jesus man. some people watch movies on their phablets, or they sync huge music libraries. what's your argument here. you're trying to prove some weak subpointlet of some point i made. fact is there's some grave differences in how OSX and chrome OS work and anyone switching from either, to either, will be missing certain things. the idea that you can just hop over to a chromebook from mac/OSX and not miss functionality is idiotic and only works because you have some warped, idealised picture of the respective userbases in your mind.
>>52861459 look at the dell xps13 or the thinkpad x1 carbon. aside from the fact that as of right now, you can't spec them up to 16gb ram at all, they're the same price range. and desu, all things considered - service, build quality, hardware support, the works - those two currently are the only contenders worth mentioning. the HP elitebooks are nice, but a step down nonetheless (and for that matter not much less expensive either), so is the latest sony shit (even worse). a further step down in terms of build etc are the asus and acer laptops, with asus being my favorite from that category, although their hardware support sucks donkey ass. and, last but not least, there's schenker/xmg, where you are essentially limited to a 15" machine because all they have in the smaller segment is dogshit.
so yes, the products macbook pros are competing with cost essentially the same and come with win10 and the close tier contenders aren't that much cheaper. deal with it. macbook pros are the one apple product that is actually price competitive.
let's not talk about ipods, ipads, iphones, mac pros, macbook airs or the new macbook though, those are all a joke. the iMac deserve mentioning, it's also fair-ish, if you're into that kinda thing.
>>52862771 When someone buys a laptop that's the only way for them/their employee to work with and their sole source of income they surely open it up and void any and all warranty just to upgrade a new laptop.
Rice and upgrade your own rig all you want but don't expect anyone who actually works with the computer to do it.
Safari works a lot better on Macs than every other browser, not to mention the fact that it increases the battery life a lot. There is no reason to not use safari unless you like looking at webms all day.
>>52863022 >well i was taking about my own lapotop >my company gave me a mac pro 15 with all awesome shit > still use Linux on it > can change the os and everyshit just have to email shit to boss >could have done with a phone but na company policy .....
>>52864721 well, the thing is, the kind of person who'd use custom CSS and post kiddieporn reaction images probably wouldnt give two shits about manipulating a screenshot; i'm gonna need a testimony from the other guy
>>52859296 I actually want to try the OSx. Got a 512GB 2.5" drive from my laptop (runs on an SSD now, smooth as balls), and I will probably put the 512 in my PC and play around with different OSs without fucking up my 1TB drive. Any way to get into it? Haven't found a mac thread on /g/, so here I am. Thanks for any answer, guys.
>>52862165 >>>52862107 >>^a/^e >is there any reason why shortcuts in Linux are so idiotic? Those are Emacs bindings, so you can blame RMS/GNU in general I guess.
>or nano If you actually use nano for shit you should kill you're self my man.
The ^a/e/n/p/f/b/k/d is ubiquitous throughout all of OSX. Browser address bars, Spotlight, third party apps like Slack: if it has a text input window, you can use these bindings there.
Contrast with Windows where you basically have Home, End, and the arrow keys. This setup is inferior and often forces use of the mouse. Either way, your hand is coming off home row.
Also, I don't understand the aversion to the control key from some people. You don't HAVE to pinky it if that's not comfortable to you: just use the middle left side of your hand's palm (right below the pinky). I haven't used a single keyboard yet where that is not comfortable, so I'm surprised this doesn't just occur naturally to most people.
I have Mac and PC, the only use my Mac has is Logic Pro X because I record music and it's my favorite DAW for live instrument recording. I couldn't stand protools on Windows so I had to get a Mac, aside from recording it does literally nothing and is a glorified web browser.
Too pricey. I can get a lot more bang for my buck buying other devices. Still in college, so funds are limited, and apple is out of my price range. I also like building my own desktops, so would only buy a mac if I wanted a new laptop.
>no skylake till june >even then it's a staggered launch >best graphics option is basically a gimped 950m >it costs 3000 dollars >i7 u processors doom you to 1m+ compile times for any decent project that isn't some faggy startup spaghetti code in RoR
No thank you sir. I'd get the XPS 15 for a better screen, better graphics card and save 500 shekels on the way but I'm not part of the high density screen meme.
>>52859296 I was used to think about Macs in the 00s as a alternative for the Windows/ PC "power user". In the late 90s when I read about this until the first half of the 00s it looked like a niche for these power users and in my country the info about Macs was little and in my mind it had something "special".
So the iPhone cames, and iPad... I see all these people on the streets with these things and I'm disapointed with the way things are now. It's sad man. These arrogant 40 years old independent woman-tier using MacBooks
So I'm using a Dell Precision and a chinkphone (Samsung).
I know this thread is dead as fuck but I was freaking the FUCK out when I realized every computer in my Arts&Technology building at school was filled with Macs. I had no idea how to use OSX and any of its software and I was one of those delusional "Mac is overpriced and shitty and a meme" edgesters. After a few weeks of using them, I grew to love it.
I even got a 15 inch rMBP a few weeks ago and I absolutely love it. I prefer doing pretty much everything on this as opposed to my desktop aside from playing games.
Sure they might be a /tiny/ bit pricey but so are the fucking Surface Books. If you can ever get your hands on a computer running OSX for a while, definitely try it out. The OS makes or breaks the products for a lot of people.
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