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first for cheap chink pistons
i watched the anime
went to akihabara and played the games in the sega arcades
won some ll stuff from the grabbie machines there
taking my trusty dt880s everywhere i went
so yeah i care
Are these a good option for the price?
If not, can you recommend some good earphones for a similar price?
I watched the anime and found it entertaining, listened through all the music and drama CDs and some live shows. The most "Makiposting" I do is attach an image to my post which also includes something topic related. I've been doing it for longer than this thing exploded.
Sounds like a good deal. My friend has DT990s from the 80s and they work perfectly. Keep them well they don't really age past the pads which are replaceable.
I have a wireless logitech headset which is my all purpose all day headset, had them for 3 or 4 years and i only recently had an issue with them which was the battery dying out, but it was a cheap and easy repair and theyre good as new. even bought new pads and theyre almost good as new
I asked for recommendations in the last thread and was suggested both the Sennheiser HD 439 and Superlux HD 681.
Anyone used one or the other and can vouch for which might be a better choice?
Are you all watching handegg fiddy or what?
HD 681 is great with K240 pads.
They look retarded.
>tfw got a dt880 for $60
to bad i don't think it will offer me much over my K702
Yes, they're good. Especially for 15$
I'm not sure if that's what you want or if you'll like them, but those are a good pair of headphones for its value
It's a touch out of date, but here: http://pastebin.com/QQ4Gp7bQ
why do you need a guide in a world after the pistons were invented
IEMs are fucking shit so it won't get any better from a pair of pistons 3
Why do you need a guide in a world after the DT880 600 Ohms were invented
Headphones are fucking shit so it won't get any better from a pair of DT880 600 Ohms
Amazon is basically saying that I'm stealing from them and that they may close my account soon. I have $515 on the account and I don't want to lose it.. What is the best all-around pair of headphones I can buy? Is it the DT 880 or the HD600? Just tell me. I don't have time to waste.
god dammit niggers I didn't steal anything. I live in a shitty neighborhood with a long driveway so the fucking faggot UPS guy drops it off at my mail box, urban fellows stroll by, see my package, and just fucking take it. fucking niggers man. amazon is getting pissy because it's two packages so they think i'm trying to pull something.
i still dont know what you mean. crossfeed is there for people that want it. its not any more complicated than that. are you asking what its for? i think you have some false assumptions so youre asking bad questions based on them
im hearing its the shit with he400i which makes me want a he400i. But then again, my o2 doesnt support crossfeed so I'd have to do it in hideous software like foobar2k or buy a new amp
As I said before, I don't that will work out well. The ear canal has multiple resonators, whereas a simple tube only has the one from its length. Any attempt at an accurate canal simulation needs to have additional resonators to adjust the response.
In-ear acoustic impedance will be more dependent on the load with with headphones, much like headphones in the electrical domain with output impedance.
Crossfeed is just crosstalk, and they can't agree on how to do it. Nothing special with any headphone. Any proper crossfeed ought to be a very flexible solution to suit the listener.
Why is the HD 600 better than DT 880? not even trolling i'm a faggot that doesn't know anything. I don't have an amp or anything, either, unless an RME Babyface audio interface counts, or my motherboard.
its more neutral
i wont begin to argue this kind of stuff, because how much money means to every person depends on exactly that person and how much money they have. what do you want to do, plot some kind of "willingness vs income" graph at different price points? ridiculous
>more neutral than the motherfucking DT 880
ARe you fucking kidding me right now?
Is the HD600 300 ohm impedance a deficit over the DT 880 600 ohm impedance? I'm buying a o2+odac so I might as well make good use of it since whatever headphones I buy will be desktop use only.
I'm new to this audio stuff, started doing research in the past week so bear with me.
the biggest pitfall of open dynamic transducer headphones are their (typically) poor subbass response. the 400i is essentially a slightly brighter hd600 with better subbass. to most people, the treble means more than subbass, which i cant argue with, but if i just eq it down, i get both
>Why do you niggers like the magni/modi shit so much?
I don't. Additional DACs are often a waste of time. Trying to justify them without using them to address specific audio issues often turns some sort of mentally delusional nonsense.
>Is the impedance a deficit
i mean, i dont think so. but your answer, just as mine did, would come down to how much you like bass. if you love subbass and actually listen to things containing it, then yes it would probably be worth the money, especially if you can afford it. everything is relative
Account specialists at amazon are fucking assholes
Expect to never get your money or your package back. If you can do a chargeback do it right the fuck now.
I tried to purchase a pair of headphones but tried a different credit card than the debit card I used a couple times. My account was immediately suspended for "unusual" activity. They requested a bank statement for the credit card I attempted to purchase with, which I sent, via fucking fax in the year of your lord and savior +1, and they denied it. Some BS excuse about it missing data.
I went to my bank and requested a new statement with the info they need, bank doesn't issue it as they can't modify the page they print. I wrote it down manually but got the same message saying I'm still missing data. I called costumer support, the guy said he'll issue a ticket so this could be reviewed more closely. That was over a month ago and haven't heard from them since.
I'm telling you, do a fucking chargeback right the fuck now.
>implying that you shouldn't have a dac at all?
Technically speaking, anything you can get digital audio out of, anything that makes digital signals into electrical voltage has a Digital-Analogue Converter. Sound cards, most motherboards, phones, CD players, all have audio D/A chips.
What you want an additional DAC to do is address certain issues that you have with your existing gear. Noise from the converter and circuit, additional inputs and outputs, remote controls, maybe even distortion, if that actually happens.
If you can find some ordinary output that doesn't hiss or pick up interference, chances are it is good enough as a DAC. Remember that the DAC doesn't have to drive the headphone directly, the amplifier does.
Depends on what kind of experience you want and the music you listen to most. Here's some quick comparative notes.
Soft, mellow, cohesive sound that excels at conveying a live music vibe. Noticeable subbass rolloff. At lower volumes, a "Sennheiser veil" is more apparent, but not much of an issue for me because it's very non-fatiguing at usual moderate/high volumes. Lots of initial clamp is uncomfortable at first, but gets very comfortable after loosening. If you wear glasses, you can get annoying squeaking noises until they're adjusted right.
Great subbass, better sense of detail and instrument separation than HD600. Tonality feels somewhat off and a little edgy in comparison, can never forget that I'm listening to headphones. Leaks sound like crazy. More consistent in fit and comfort, but the cable is too short. I might get HD700 cables or something soon to replace them.
I prefer the 400i for genres with a more aggressive presentation or lots of bass, HD600 for the rest.
I know Grados are known for having an in-your-face kind of sound, but are the bass good on them? It's the main advantage the 400i has, so if the bass isn't as extended I'm not sure what niche it would fill for me.
>but are the bass good on them?
I haven't tried the 400i but the bass is better than my HD650. For electronic, hip hop, "aggressive presentation with lots of bass" I go with my SR225s but, like you, for everything else I go with the Senn (when I'm not at home).
There should be more things here, I won't add them.
I currently have sony MDR-v600 purchased over 10 years ago and they are discontinued. If I buy modern open back cans will I notice an improvement? I'm new to researching audio so idk if audio equipment comes and goes like graphics cards. Does the cost to performance ratio keep improving every 6 months and after 4 years the difference is David and Goliath?
All of the Big 3 are ancient, so not really. I guess cost to performance ratio has improved because they are a lot cheaper today.
Most notable advances recently are the revival of planar magnetic headphones.
Fair enough. But I'm still curious about trying open back. Would I notice a worthwhile going from closed back MDR-v600 to the open back HD 600? I'm saying HD 600 since that seems to be the general favorite here so far.
Some combination of
-too much spent on something I don't use too use too often
-not much sonic/comfort benefit
DT 880/ HD 800 can maintain bass without the clamp sensation. HD 800/DT 880/HD 600 sound like some combination of veiled and harsh, if you can believe that. A problem with the word choice, which I can elaborate on.
Some mild comfort issues with all of them, HD 800 was best.
As a constant promoter of EQ, I didn't care for the FR of any headphone I've heard, and the differences start to evaporate as the equalization begins. Some friends who weren't willing to EQ liked the headphones, and away they go.
Almost everything else not by Shure has better treble extension than the SE535. SE535 has a nice form factor, and a smooth warm/dark tilt to its sound. 535 LTD brightens it a bit with different damper.
4R isn't made anymore, and I don't like some of the build changes made to the replacement W40. Quite midbass heavy, and very lacking in upper-midrange like the rest of the Westone line. Surprisingly good treble extension, but tip dependent.
IM02 doesn't sound too much like either. Think something with a tone control adjusted brighter than the Westone 2/Stagediver 2, but less bright than DBA-02/VC1000/R50. 5 kHz peaking, just like those other dual drivers I said, somewhat recessed upper mid. 5kHz is still not very emphasized in absolute terms. Even toned low end.
Nothing like Moore's Law for audio. You can't just double the performance from the device.
HD 600 is supposedly the best all-rounder, least fatiguing headphone that isn't overly expensive, as well as the DT 880 Premium 600 ohm(not as good as HD 600 though, more fatiguing due to the treble) and the AKG 702(not really they're shit)
HD 600 is the only solid pair of headphones.
Sorry forgot "improvement" in the middle of that sentence. But from the two responses it seems you guys understood what I meant.
>Would I notice a worthwhile going from closed back MDR-v600 to the open back HD 600?
went from turtle bitches to AKG K511's and a behringer xenyx 302 USB audio interface (plus a random beyerdynamic M201N(c) mic) the audio interface and mic were free, and the headphones 30€, did I do a stupid?
You don't need to be that salty. HD600 is often overpriced relative to the others which is why it's not recommended as much.
Yeah, thank God for EQ, huh?
Something (mostly) neutral that doesn't entirely drop the ball anywhere on the overall range. Understanding that there's inherent limitations in IEMs, especially in a sub-$400 price range, I want something that I can use while traveling that I can EQ to my taste with a variety of genres. Source would be a Fiio X1, no amp (or an e11 if I really needed it). It could be a bit dark or V-shaped if need be, but like I said, balanced would be ideal.
It's really more of a long-term planning thing. It's not something I need right now, just planning for future upgrades. Hell, I just grabbed a pair of Soundmagic e80s, and while I like them, I'm still feeling them out. I'm new to higher-end IEMs as a whole, I've already got closed headsets that I like, I just want something extremely portable.
I should also add that I have a moderate amount of hearing loss from working around aircraft, so higher-end treble may play less of a factor.
I have some 250ohm DT770s and I really like them, but I think I'm missing out because I'm not running the with an amp?
My onboard sound is a Realtek ALC892. It gets 90% as loud as I'd like, but I feel like I'm missing some punch. I mostly listen to deep house. For movies/tv/anime/youtube videos they are more than sufficient.
I was kind of under the impression that if my cans are loud enough, I don't need to amplify them. I'm not exactly an audiophile, so can someone straighten me out?
What's the minimum that I'd need to spend here?
HD600 is almost always more expensive than the other two because Sennheiser cracks down on its dealers for pricing. I guess it also has more demand given that audiophiles circlejerk it the most.
I'd say HD600 below $300 is good, but the other two get down to $200 or below quite often which make them great relative values.
$200 and $350 are almost twice the difference. K702 is a good recommendation these days because it's below $200 in Europe and the K7xx is often available for $200, while DT880 tends to hover around $230-250.
HD600's usual price is like $300-350 which is above most budgets for people requesting purchase advice here, especially since all of these need additional money for an amp. When HD600 is $100+ more than the other two, it's harder to justify except for those who are sensitive to treble and have the extra budget.
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Picked up these for $120. Did I fall for a meme?
Are you also the anon who knows his stuff about audio here, giving advice and correcting others about how signals/audio devices and such work?
A good heaphone, sometimes offered for cheaper. Not bad.
I got the pistons 3
don't like them, highs are too weak and bass is too strong
because they're in ear canal earbuds, they're also uncomfortable as fuck
preferred the shitty 5$ ones that break in a month
>amazon prices right now
>HD 600 = $328.99
>DT 880 Premium 600 OHM = $249.00
Id like to buy new headphones this week to pair with my new o2ampodac. I don't want to wait 6 months to see when prices to drop. With current prices I listed which would you buy right now?
well it depends on preferences
if you like nobass & strong treble, k702 is a good choice
if you like strong treble & don't mind a bit of bass, k7xx, dt880 or k612 are a good choice
if you like bass, hd650 or 400i are a good choice
If you don't mind putting $400 down up front, the $150 gift card bundle is effectively a $250 HD600 which is as good as you're going to get for them.
If you can't, then that DT880 price is decent.
At $328 for standalone HD600, I would try the DT880s at $250 over them.
On the other hand, the $400 gift card bundle is very good since you never see HD600 going for below $250 new.
Ugh. The comment is appreciated but I just spent like 3 hours watching reviews and reading comments on the HD600 and DT880. Adding 5 more pairs for me to research means I probably wont be placing my order tonight and will spend god knows how much more time researching before I make a selection.
just think about what you want and go based on that
unless you want niggerbass and pick a nobass pair or you expected really hard treble & you picked one with recessed treble, you won't be disappointed
like they're all good, that's why they're recommended so often
I do not. My old speaker set broke down last week and I've been looking for used deals on good headphones since then. Had my eye on a pair of K240's first so I didn't think I'd need an amp..
The E10k goes for about $75 but is overpriced right now due to supply. If you can wait, just get it on one of those backordered sites like Adorama or bhphotoandvideo.
K702+E10k for $200 is hard to beat
Hmm, the E10k would allow me to do: Computer -> Mini USB -> E10k -> K702's ?
I've found one for $89.99 in a local webshop, so if I can get the cans down to $110/115 I might just go for it. Thanks!
Don't listen to people telling you that these have hard treble and no bass, they're just antishilling. The new chinese K702 is closer to the K612 than the old austrian model. They can still be considered as bright headphones, but not in an exaggerated way.
E10k will be fine.
O2+ODAC is usually about $300 USD. The only reasons to get O2+ODAC over E10k are 1) you really want that placebo and/or 2) if you have headphones that are too demanding for the E10k like 600 ohm Beyers.
t. O2+ODAC owner
>Is the impedance a deficit
Then why is the 880 600 ohm version better than the 880 250 ohm version? If beyer makes a better headphone of the same design @ 600 ohms why doesn't sennheiser make a better HD 500 version at 600 ohms instead of 300 ohms?
Isn't that the whole point of the amp/dac setups? That you can use high impedance shit thats not designed for pleb portable use?
The O2 by itself is $130. The ODAC is another $150.
Really? I wouldn't imagine the E10k outputs that much mW into 600 ohms, but I don't have any direct experience with them.
The sound differences between the DT 880 600 ohm and the 250 ohm aren't as striking as the sound differences between the 250 ohm and the 32 ohm, Tyll and many others proved this. Like you said, a higher impedance is usually better because it can work well with amp/dacs having high output impedance. This was a major issue in the past, but nowadays there are a lot of good portable players/amps/dacs that have low impedance output which can drive even low impedance headphones very well. There's really no point in wanting a super high impedance headphone, unless you mean to use different sources.
Impedance has no correlation to sound quality and loose correlation to drive requirements. It's not a useful spec on its own.
The 600 Ohm Beyer seems to have smoother treble than the 250 Ohm version but it's still peaky, just less so with the high impedance version. This is nothing inherent to high impedance voice coil however and since the word "better" was thrown in already, it's all subjective, too. Assuming Sennheiser would create a higher impedance version of the HD 600, it might or it might not alter the frequency response. I'm not knowledgeable to tell you where the differences could be, what exactly would it do with the FR(if anything) and I can't tell you whether the possible change would be for the better as this is subjective. One thing is for sure, it would require more voltage to drive loudly than the lower impedance version assuming that nothing else in the design was changed.
Point of an amplifier is to output more power to the headphones to drive them louder and possibly fix issues with current gear you are using such as noise, distortion and output impedance as well as give you a nice volume knob. Some headphones can be very inefficient and thus need an amplifier to give you adequate listening volume. Impedance is a factor but not directly related. Most inefficient and hardest to drive headphones right now are in the 50 Ohm range.
As for DAC, see >>52858735 and >>52858936
2011 LL fan here.
It is always good to see Love Live being beloved.
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$328 is a bit overpriced.
Also, if you get the HD600, you would also have to buy an amp which would probably be another $75+ for something like the E10k.
Might want to check out the DT880 or K702 which are going for $100 less.
everyone is saying something different, and it's fucking annoying.
>muh HD 600 are god-tier
>DT 880 are not as gud but get them instead because
If the HD 600 is better, i'm buying them. I have an audio interface to act as a DAC/amp. I don't want to cuck myself with shittier headphones if I'm keeping these for like 10 years.
it's a worthwhile upgrade
if it's worth the 328 (250 if you get amazon bundle with 150$ gift card for 400) is up to you
you could be some nigger on the street with 5 quarters to his name or a multi billion drug/oil baron
Get the HD600 then.
Also, at this price point the diminishing returns hit hard so your personal sound signature preferences are probably the most important factor. The HD600 may measure best on a graph, but you may prefer one of the others.
How do you like the Superluxes and their bass/mids/treble overall?
I think that they sound fine. I really don't know shit about this. I don't know what I like or what good is. They uncomfortable as hell to wear. That's the only thing I can say, easily. If something about the sound sucked ass, I would have no idea because they're my only way to have audio from my computer at all.
are pic related any good?
love the idea of a replaceable cable but I could go through 3 pistons for the same price so not sure if it's worth.
I exclusively use IEM's and some better sound would be nice.
come on dude, you must be able to notice this shit, you had reference to random shit before your superluxes
when I first put them on with some music, I instantly noticed the much stronger and clearer highs than what I was used to, listening to something that's not bright now sounds really bad to me
Like the pistons 3 just sound awful because they have too much bass and not enough treble
have you never thought to yourself "hmm this part of the song/instrument/whatever is too strong/weak"
i guess they're treble-y. They're easily the nicest things I've ever owned so I don't know what I'm missing. If the HD 600 is that much better, I have no idea what better is. I can't even imagine it so I have no idea what I'm supposed to be listening for.
what you could do is go listen to some at an event or meet or some shit, maybe a special store
alternatively, buy a different pair like the hi2050 or something, and then compare them
The HD 600 has a more extended and smoother response, less peaky and less treble. It's going to sound warmer in comparison. It's also going to be a heck of a lot more comfy. EQ gives you the idea if you can mimic the HD 600 response.
If I recall correctly, the 668s are rather V-shaped with a bass boost and also excessive treble.
DT880 would probably be the most direct upgrade to the sound of your Superluxes, since it has both the best bass of the Big 3 but also shares the elevated treble.
K702 has good extension but also the least bass quantity of the three, with forward mids and somewhat high treble energy. If you want bright but not too bright, this is a decent choice.
HD600 is very mid-centric, with less emphasis in the treble, a bit of boosted midbass and subbass rolloff. It's the most neutral overall, but if you're one of the people who want more bass or more treble they can sound boring.
All of them are pretty comfy.
I just don't like how so much of this is subjective. I wish there was an obvious "Yes, these are better than these, objectively."
Everything you're saying, I have no idea what it really means until I hear it. If it's worth the $328, then it would have to sound like x10 better than my 668B. I don't see how that could be.
When I read this, neutral is something that I have partnered with meaning good. I want to hear things how they were meant to be heard. I don't want coloring or whatever you'd call it. I don't know if these 668B's do that, but I feel like that's what i'd want, but maybe I don't know. The DT 880 600ohm is another one that I'm looking at... between the HD600 and the DT 880 600ohm.
Yeah by bass boost I meant midbass.
You're not going to get good extension at that price. Also innerfidelity is kind of shit when headphones are dependent on fit, since Tyll for some dumb reason averages in the bad fit measurements.
That's easy then. HD600 is objectively better measurement-wise. I was asking about your preferences because what you like in your sound is not a purely objective thing.
maybe get MDR 7506/v6, to get a reference of what a neutral/bright pair is
if you like them, you know what to look for and you have a closed pair of portable headphones if you ever need them
if you don't like them, you know what to look for and can give them as a gift
>Preferred type of headphone
Same type of can shape as the M50X
>Open or closed
i'm thinking of getting the M50X but i don't really know, there are heaps of other good headphones at this price range that i don't know about
I have no opinion. Between the DT 880 and the HD 600, I want to like the DT 880 more just because I can get them for much less, but if the HD 600 is overall a bit nicer, I'd rather just fork over the extra cuckbux and get it over with. I also have no amp or dac, unless you count an RME Babyface audio interface. I plan on putting this right through my ASUS Z97-A/USB3.1 motherboard, otherwise. If a DAC/amp is really that necessary, then it would change things.
Well people do prefer an extended and smooth response. Whether this response is bright/warm/neutral depends on the person. HD 600 does better in this regard than the Superlux. There is also a correlation with the amount of distortion and preference. People prefer less distortion but this is a trickier subject as it's not easy to tell what part or how the distortion is audible(if at all) in headphones based on THD sweeps alone(unless they are excessive). HD 600 also does have lower distortion than your Superlux though, audible or not. Technically it's a better headphone in every regard but as individual's preference can still vary a lot, it's quite impossible for us to say how good it is for you.
It's good. I'm really liking it and somehow always gone back to it even after owning some headphones now.
From a quick search, it looks like you might not get loud enough with these since there are several forum posts talking about insufficient headphone volume.
I suppose you could always buy the headphone and then buy an amp afterward if the RMEs aren't enough. E10k is a good option for a dac/amp, and if you buy the $400 Amazon gift card pack for the HD600 you could also use the gift card on them.
Is it true that listening to headphones would lead to slower decline of hearing compared to earphones, since the latter is so much closer to the drums?
Ah, you're that guy.
Well, I don't think you can go wrong with either one. If you want to pay the premium for more neutral, go for the HD600 but there is the possibility you might have to spend more on an amp.
Which headphone would be suitable for prolonged usage or gaming on laptop?
I'm leaning towards buying m50x (although 70$ more than m40x) but I'd like a second opinion
>I think I'm missing out because I'm not running the with an amp
Natural to think this given all the bullshit that is online, and once you think it, it is all over, because if you ever do get an amp, you are going to believe that it is doing something positive even if it really is not.
>if my cans are loud enough, I don't need to amplify them.
This is right.
Another thing to consider is that if you can actually hear your headphone at all, then they ARE being amped. You have an amp already.
M40x may be preferable if he wants more bass and less treble.
That said, the DIY Audio Heaven measurement of the M40x doesn't look nearly as good.
I SURE DO LOVE THESE VASTLY DIFFERENT MEASUREMENTS & GRAPHS
everything gives you tinnitus if you put it loud enough
he's probably just memeing
they're both good, I just told you to get dt880 because you'd pay more for the 600s than other people so you could stop worrying about what to buy and just buy something
You're never going to get unanimous agreement.
Flip a coin if you really can't decide. There's been a ton of input on the headphones involved but the final decision is all yours. Soliciting more opinions isn't going to help you at this point.
Get DT 800 if you're a nigger
Get HD600 if you want to experience the best experience an average consumer could ever wish for
Get K702 if you want to listen to your music from the perspective of the sound engineer who created it
>but I don't know what you actually mean by it
By it I meant that the K702 stands on a different level from both the DT 880 and the HD 600. At the end of the day both the DT 880 and the HD 600 are made for the average consumer and they really make music more pleasant, no doubt about it. K702, on the contrary, is a reference heapdhone, which means that it's built and engineered to reproduce accurately everything happening in the recording you're listening to. This entails that poorly mastered recordings will sound like shit on the K702, while well-mastered recordings will sound great. K702 is more unforgiving than both the HD 600 and the DT 880.
>Do you think that this is a good thing?
It really depends on the quality of the music you usually listen to. I personally love what the K702 does to my music: it's like listening to music on different speakers, each one of which plays the note of one instrument. It's difficult to explain, but it sounds like this to me. Some people call this experience very confusing and dispersive, to me it sounds like the best I can achieve.
Get the HD 600 if your budget allows it. That's my advice. It's the best out of the big 3.
LOL actually there's at least two of us! Might be 3.
I have made a ton of question posts on and off since the start of this thread, then stopped for awhile, and kept lurking while the other guy started posting.
Here's some posts for example. I wont link all since that'd be like 20-50 posts.
The other guy (funny how he wanted to kill me)
On another note to this guy
So yeah thanks for adding another to this list
Thanks for all of your help but fuck yall I'm going to buy the HD 500s so I can stop thinking about this shit. I have barely left my computer chair the last 18 hours.
I can do it, but it just wouldn't make sense. I'd be saving like $75 at the end, and that's if I was to sell something that I bought with that extra money from picking the $400 gift card thing.
Yeah, I've been looking at this from like midnight to right now, 9 AM.
>The HD600 is one of only five headphones that I have awarded an A+ value rating in this entire evaluation (the other four are Beyerdynamic's DT 880, Audio-Technica's ATH-AD900, and HifiMan's HE-400 & HE-500). Dollar for dollar, the HD600 is among the best sounding headphones I have ever heard. Therefore, I feel it deserves a place in every serious headphone collection.
K702 fukbois BTFO
There's a lot of discussion and flamewars because all three are good and commonly recommended. The shitflinging between the three has been going on for like ten years.
It's the HD600 by the way, not the HD500.
you need an amp anyway
why not get the 400$ bundle, buy the amp with the 150$ gift card and have some spare
this is ofcourse if you don't have an amp yet, if you do have an amp already
you can get pretty much fucking anything on amazon, you could maybe get a new keyboard or monitor or gpu, god knows what you need
I know but it is the smoothest. Other ones have more resonances. I recommend EQ with all of them but out of the box the HD 600 would be my pick.
Yes that seems like a good deal.
> taking a subjective review as God's words
Of course the HD600 is the best out of all those headphones he tried, the DT 880 aside, they were all shit
> K702 fukbois BTFO
he didn't even take a single AKG into consideration, What's your point again?
This is the deal anon
I have about $1100 on my debit card. I can get whatever I fucking want, but I have this $500 on my amazon account just sitting there, being used for nothing. I don't want to use my debit card dosh because it's basically my emergency fund money.
That guy is one of those audiophiles who believes in balanced cables, so I wouldn't take that too seriously.
That said, it's not a big revelation that head-fiers like the HD600. I think it has a reputation for "scaling" with amps, so as good as the HD600 is, part of its reputation is based on delusion.
>I can do it, but it just wouldn't make sense.
This made me think you were someone else that didn't have it already on balance, in which case you should get the deal
GO FUCKING GET THE DT880s ALREADY YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
>NEUTRALITY KING: In my opinion, the HD800 is the neutrality king. Depending on the setup, the HD800 may sound warm or bright. Because of its finicky nature with regard to amplification,
kekin' at the effort of going through so much without understanding a thing just to give worthless subjective impressions.
Unless they have insane amounts of distortion while driving a high impedance load(which is rare even for most tube designs), I can't see a lot of ways of how. Output impedance is a factor too but it needs to be in the hundreds of Ohms for it to have a meaningful effect on the sound of the HD 800. From almost any source HD 800 is going to sound a bit bright, from very high output impedance it's going to sound V-shaped and the recessed upper midrane is going to make it sound a bit veiled regardless of source. There's nothing "finicky" about driving the HD 800.
Where does the notion of HD 8-- I mean DT880 having a lot of bass come from? It's a bright headphone with a well extended frequency response.
What's wrong with Orpheus #1? I'm not too familiar with it.
HD600 bass extension is its main weak point, so I don't see your point. All of the big 3 are not known for their bass.
Complaints about the DT880 bass quantity are not rare, you know. Look up some reviews.
IM02 fits closest to balance, slight treble peakiness make EQ a bit more tricky without a good parametric. Shells for the ATH-IM are somewhat bulky.
SE535 and W40 have a noticeably darker/bassier sound to them, but the sound is smoother.
Do get a handle on your opinions of the e80.
>Are you also the anon
What would give you that idea?
I just placed an order for the HD 600 with that gift card bundle and a antlion mod mic base magnet.
Just one more thing guys. Which gain level should I select from JDS labs?
Medium 1.0x, 3.3x
Standard 2.5x, 6.5x
low 1.0x, 2.5x
Medium gain is a good option, standard can be useful in some cases as a standalone unit(never with the ODAC+O2 combo) if you are using mobile devices as a source. Medium is good though and the gain options allow you to drive the HD 600 loudly and also use sensitive in-ears with the 1x gain. Low gain can be useful with the combo unit but I'd really get the medium gain instead even in this case.
>Does the hd700 have decent bass? Looking to get it after taxes.
Can't recommend that headphone to anyone and no it really doesn't. It's really the worst open headphone from the HD 5x8 and up. Worse than your HD 650 and also completely different. Awful value.
A little dip around 4-5kHz, then a peak added in around 8kHz.
Broad filter to lift subbass. My unit seems to have less midbass/bass than some of the fresher pairs of HD600s. This probably has to do with the really loose headband that the new pairs don't have.
Gonna get myself the HD598, good choice? My other option is the DT990, but I heard that treble and bass are more accentuated on that one, which I dont't really want.
I want to anally rape her so badly.
hey! I've been wanting to connect two different stereos for a long time now.
Is an external USB dac/amp combo the way to go? Like the Nuforce uDAC-3 or the Fiio e10k?
Do these have two audio outs?
And, will this sound good?
>Preferred type of headphone
>Open or closed
>Preferred tonal balance
Philips SHP9500 and V-Moda M100
>>Preferred type of headphone
>>Open or closed
>Preferred tonal balance
if you don't mind bright, maybe 7506 with hm5 pads
isn't it almost the same as k550?
I heard people say it's an NA exclusive variant
more bass & more treble
>What would give you that idea?
The way you explain and word things. I'm just guessing as I don't know what gear you use.
Looking for some of those sweet sweet purchase reccomendations, need IEMs for the gym. Wireless would be awesome but if there's other options that do the job and stick in my ears I'm open to em.
>Source: Android Phone or iPod Classic
>Preferred type of headphone: IEM
>Comfort level: Why would I want uncomfortable headphones?
>Preferred tonal balance: Balanced, but I don't mind if it errs on the bassy side.
>Preferred music: Music tastes are all over the place. I really would prefer crispness over warmth if that makes sense.
>Past headphones: Loved my Sennheiser CX 300's, put 'em through the washing machine a little while back though. Use Sony MDR V6 at home, never done me wrong.