What does /g/ use for their home router and WAP?

ISP issued modem
$20 tplink, works great, it's the best selling router on amazon for a reason

>>52851101
>2016
still not using homemade router

I have the xiaomi one...rly gr8 rly fast, and never needs restart

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pfsense
DIR-655 and a wrt54g for wireless
both of them suck at putting out a reliable signal, but I don't use wifi a lot anyway

>>52852854
>pfSence instead vanilla FreeBSD
Why?
>DIR-655
Good news for you:
https://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/mips

>>52853130
The only thing good about FreeBSD is pfsense.

>>52853188
But it's not true.

ubiquiti edge router lite

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This deeply mediocre, overpriced "Hub"

Getting the new Sky Q hub soon, has wireless AC and built in powerline ethernet. Only 2 gigabit ethernet ports though, so I think it's time to finally get a gigabit switch.

>>52853130
>pfSence instead vanilla FreeBSD
>Why?
because it has a nice webgui and I don't want to fuck with bsd

>>52853741
TL;DR You just noob.

>>52853852
>>52853130
since I _could_ install freebsd onto it, what purpose would it serve?

How much can the router affect download speed anyway? My speeds are shit and I'm using an abolutely ancient router that cooks like an oven.

>>52853906
if your router only has 100mbit instead of 1gbit ports, you could get severely gimped speed

Sonicwall TZ 200, company I work for issues a lot of these for our clients so I wanted more practice.

>>52853885
Speed/Stability/+ Functional(from ssh to xmpp server)

>tfw building your own 10Gb router is expensive
why
All I want is to use my cat 6 cables at maximum speed.

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>>52853644
This tp link gigabit switch was about 25 dollars at frys. The 8 port one was about 5 or 10 dollars more. I like the metal housing.

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>>52851101
good enough for a house full of gaymers and pedofiles, using a UAP-AC for wireless.

>>52853975
all I need it to do is put out a reliable wifi signal and allow me to put wifi clients on the same subnet as wired clients for muh steam streaming

Cheap TP-Link with OpenWRT. Works great. I installed OpenVPN on it.

I also use it to block ads on all my devices via the hosts file.

Edgerouter lite for home IDS sophos UTM home edition

I have shitty centurylink switch and router. The signal is god awful. Is getting another router or access point a viable solution to spreading a 30mb connection throughout a one floor house?

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I need to upgrade to something less power hungry, any ideas? Any cheap router board on aliexpress?

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Works like a dream. Stable as fuck signal ac signal on both 2,4 and 5 gHz.
Plugged in a aging USB HDD and now I have a poor mans NAS.

>>52854009
I have the 8 port one and its great

>>52851101
a 10 year old WRT54G with DDwrt, a tplink gigabit switch, and a shitty linksys n150 AP.

>>52854051
Where did you get these IP Anon ?
Is there a way to auto-update the block list ?

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FRITZ!Box 5490

>>52851101
richfags buying routers for more than 200 $. this is insane

WHY IS "NORMAL" HARDWARE (reliable hardware, as it should be, not the shit consumers (normies) get) SO FUCKING OVERPRICED.
I HATE THE TECH INDUSTRY!
WHY DO THEY SELL ROUTERS THAT BARELY WORK (200 MHz + some wannabe gigabit switch) TO CONSUMERS, ONLY BECAUSE (quoting person from big tech store) "This is not server grade equipment, but you'll need no more than that" -- NO FUCK YOU! I asked for gigabit Ethernet + reliable router that WILL WORK 24/7 (hell I even have an UPS!) and that can be configured for my needs! Apparently EVERYTHING you get in some place like "dat big tech store! -BUY-OUR-SHIT-" is absolute crap that will make you disappointed and angry, because it WILL fail!

>>52854532
Because of capitalism.
I too want good hardware, but you can't have that if CEOs want money.

When designs for open source hardware exist, we'll have routers that are both good and fairly priced.

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>>52854532
forgot image

>>52854015
FreeBSD can do it all and not shitty as original DIR firmware, even more turn it into VPN/SIP/E-mail sever.

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>>52851101
This, pretty much. It runs my home network and doubles as hardware for CCNA training

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>>52851101
IPFire.
It works well and offers quite a few features.
Hardware information:
http://fireinfo.ipfire.org/profile/6dbc822514ac80d7b415c5d93e16609ed8e32bfa

>>52854581
But what will I install FreeBSD on?
Tell me what 10Gb router you use.

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>>52854564
>>52854532
>>52854553
I know them feels

>>52853484

samesies

>>52854609
It's pretty fucking robust for it's price.
Running iBGP on my home network because I can.

>>52854302
https://gist.github.com/OnlyInAmerica/75e200886e02e7562fa

I used this simple script. Keep in mind it generates a ~20 MB file which is huge for a router. I store it on a usb drive on my router. I then point to this file from the dnsmasq config so it loads to RAM after booting.

I haven't done auto update yet but that should be easy since openwrt supports crobjobs / scheduled tasks

Asus RT-AC66U running Tomato, Shibby's builds.

Been working flawlessly for over 2 years now and is plenty fast for anything I can do with my poor 30/5mbps connection. With it running OpenVPN and acting as a poor mans NAS its pretty handy.

>>52854599
>But what will I install FreeBSD on?
You has DIR-655, so here is old instruction:
https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-wifi-build/wiki/DLink-DIR655A1
DIR-655 now in head:
https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/sys/mips/conf/
https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/sys/mips/conf/DIR-655A1?view=markup
Package should work out of box:
https://wiki.freebsd.org/PackagesOnMIPS
>Tell me what 10Gb router you use.
Only 10?
We are 40/100Gb now!
https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-10-2015-12.html#Mellanox-Drivers

>>52854591
Fuck that Catalyst is huge. Too used to our little 3560s in class. How old is it?

Anyone know if theres any firmwares for the EA6400 from Linksys?

>>52852854
I was thinking of getting a J1900 and putting pfSense or OpenBSD on it.

I have fiber at home, 1gbps. Have you tested the maximum strength over LAN? I'd love to know if this can handle a whole 1gbps pipe.

>>52852854

What router do you recommend I buy for PF sense?

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Would this make a good PFSense router and FreeNAS in one system?
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/D/X10SDV-TLN4F.cfm
>eight cores, 16 threads
>2 Gigabit ethernet ports
>2 10Gigabit ethernet ports
>6 SATA ports for NAS
>M.2 drive for off-site caching when rendering

>>52855507
IIRC you want to aim for best per processor performance with pfSense, not maximum core count.

Too lazy to research, but maybe you'll get better results anon. I could be completely wrong. It would just be a shame to get 2 10gbit ports w/o being able to saturate them.

>>52855633
I won't just be running pfSense on it, I'll also be running FreeNAS, if possible. But I have no idea how to make all of FreeNAS's feature work in a virtualized environment.
What I wanted to do is run FreeBSD as the base operating system, with FreeNAS on one VM and pfSense in another.

If not, I could just run them both without virtualizing them, but I want to know if there is a way to isolate FreeNAS in a DMZ while running on the same machine as pfSense.

>>52855739
then run a KVM debian/fedora machine.
BSD IMO should not be used as a hypervisor.

>>52855739
What about using FreeBSD with jails?

Just have 1 jail for firewall, the other jail for nas.

>>52855804
Somewhat agree but jails would be a better compromise.

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>pfSense
literally why when VyOS exists?

>>52855739
>run them both without virtualizing them, but I want to know if there is a way to isolate FreeNAS in a DMZ while running on the same machine as pfSense.
Jail without(bhyve with) visualization but who you need literally two freebsd with webui instead just 2 freebsd or single one?

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Currently just a dual-Xeon FreeNAS server, but converting it to a type 1 hypervisor (ESXi?) running a firewall (OpnSense?) + FreeNAS this week, unless /g/ has better recommendations. Needing a Windows machine for the ESXi client isn't an issue for me.

>>52854591
you don't need all those switches to pass ccna..

>>52855814
>>52855829
>What about using FreeBSD with jails?
I completely forgot about jails. I think I'll do that. I've never gotten FreeNAS to work properly in a virtual machine anyway.

>>52854591
>CCNA training
>Home network rack


Lmao bitch, PTracer is MORE than enough for ccna exam training. Even for my ccnp (R&S) i barely used hardware (aside from fucking around with juni R's at work).

Also
>Faggs with avg tier ISP's using overkill routers

I need to start my own network device selling company so it's me who's ripping asses out here

>>52851101
quad core atom linux router/firewall with poe access points on a separate vlan

>>52855925
You need to tell me more about usage/risk/reliabilty needed with that setup.


Also

CCNP Cert holder here, senior netw eng and will be replying questions for network faggs.

DO NOT ASK ME ANYTHING ABOUT HOW TO STAY ANON ON THE INTERNET NOR US ISPS

>>52856146
How long did you study for your CCNP? What do you do? Was CCNA hard? What can you advice noobs who are going for CCNA?

>>52854591
Nice, dude. I really like your setup. Did you buy the 4006 or get lucky from a friend at work/etc that was getting rid of it? Either way, a nice setup to practice on. +1 :)

>>52854169

Is that thing legit? I'm about to throw my wrt54gl in the DUMP, MA, IN THE DUMP

>>52855925
>Currently just a dual-Xeon FreeNAS server,
>but converting it to a type 1 hypervisor
Why you need it? Virtualized firewall... Do you like pain?
> (ESXi?)
>FreeNAS
Wat?!
>running a firewall (OpnSense?) + FreeNAS this week, unless /g/ has better recommendations.
FreeBSD with enabled PF + ZFS all what you need and of course if you really want visualization: Jail(chroot) or hypervisor XEN/BHyve/Docker(Jail).

>>52856101
Do a bit more research imo. I don't know how much of a pain in the ass it would be to forward routing interfaces over jails.

I tried making a jail use a VPN once and couldn't do it -- I think the only solution was to:
1) basically kiss security goodbye with the jail
2) or rebuild the kernel

Using the firewall in the bsd "jailvisor" would eliminate a few points of using a jail mind you.

Again, some things may have changed or maybe I'm too nooby. Don't take my word entirely for it without some googlin'.

>>52856112
>hiding behind anonymous name
>judging people
you don't have to be mean like that to him..

>>52856191
>How long did you study for your CCNP?
5-6 months (4-6 hours a day)

> What do you do?
I am currently a network engineer for government services aka I get questions from local high network engineers that work in gov services and need to implement/rebuild their nw architecture.

Example:
The sys admin of a university called me today for asking adv for their security plan. I then went there since I got a cool ass car and love to drive it even tho I only had to say things that werent even 5 mins long. Helped the fucker, checked out their uni, had free lunch and by the time I was back my day already ended.

I do however use all this free time now to study for my CCIE that I want to get in 2017.

>Was CCNA hard?
Hmm I would say kinda. I already saw the submodules of ccna in college (bach comp science) but I did a good 3 month of studying since i didnt want to fail cuz of the high cost of taking an exam. I did succeed with 940 tho.

>What can you advice noobs who are going for CCNA?
Study hard, and by hard, i mean real hard. Do not skip chapters, dont b lazy. I'd say 3 months is needed if you have bachelors degree in comp science. Or else 6-9 months if u start from the bottom.

>>52856293
I thought the anon name was to judge people.

I was being honest tho, maybe i helped the mfer to let him sell the stuff and buy shit with that money that will actually really help him to prepare his cccna

>>52855341
I built my own
basically anything you can install bsd onto

>>52856378
Hmm what books do you recommend for CCNA and why don't you want to be asked anon-questions on the internet? Did I miss a meme or something?

Is FreeBSD usable on the DIR655? Package manager come with it?

>>52856566
>Is FreeBSD usable on the DIR655?
Try it >>52854972
>Package manager come with it?
Yes. >>52854972
https://wiki.freebsd.org/PackagesOnMIPS

>>52856547
I would buy all the module books + cisco ccna 200-120 book at ciscopress. Do know however that the MINIMUM score u need to get is 825/1000 (was in 2010). You really need to study this shit.

>why not anon-questions
Because there are a lot of sneaky shits here who would love to know the true guidance for anon internet access but at the same time, these empty heads don't even know what you can find in tcp/eth/ip packets. They just connect to a vpn and think they go insta hackboy 3000 anon mode while in fact, a vpn is useless for anon netting

>>52856592
Don't have a DIR-655, debating on buying one now. Need the right model ofc.

>>52855925
So I did a ESXi Hypervisor with a IPFIRE VM for my routing. Worked great, however--I just got gigabit internet (ATT 1000/1000) and the VM router would only do 650Mbits of throughput. I had to go baremetal to get gigabit routing.

>>52856620
D-Link hardware isn't perfect itself better look at some cheap ARM boards or even better x86(use powerd and cpufreq), current RISC isn't best in performance/watt last hope for OpenPower and SPARC.

>>52856468
I would like to use an old intel dual-core, what about power consumption using an old pc? This is a serious question.

>>52856726
Interesting, what kind of hardware were you running it on? I'm not getting gigabit speeds anytime soon though, too busy getting cucked by TWC at 300/20, and only within the last year or two.

>>52856799
the system I run it on barely draws 30w, but with something like a core2 duo, you're probably looking at 100-150w for the whole system

>>52856754
Don't think you can get a ARM board with multiple ethernet ports and FreeBSD support without spending a pretty penny. Same for OpenBSD.

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>>52856841
go for an intel atom with my pfsense box

>>52856726
>Don't think you can get a ARM board with multiple ethernet ports and FreeBSD support without spending a pretty penny
Buy 4-5 boards build cluster, use as router but easy just buy ordinary x86 PC or embedded x86 router.

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>>52856938
ubiquiti, the apple of routing gear.

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>>52852854
if anyone was wondering what the hardware looked like
>gigabyte celeron j1900 soc board
>2gb of some random sodimm
>cheap 350w micro atx psu
>random 500gb hdd I had laying around
>ark 1.5u rackmount case
>startech pci riser card incase I need it

>>52856829
Shuttle DS81, i3 with 16GB of RAM and 256GB Samsung SSD

It was only running a few VMs, I have a couple of ESXi boxes at home for my lab. Now it's just running IPFIRE. Debating on getting something else, seems like a waste.

Asus AC 68-U w/ Advanced Tomato firmware

>>52857286
Oh, Ok, yeah, I don't think I'll get bottlenecked anytime soon. 12 cores/24 threads and 32GB RAM.

$6 router and $5 modem from goodwill
wireless is fine and i enjoy gigabit

>>52857261
Can you answer my question about maximum network throughput?

>>52851130
I have that 20 dollar one. Pretty shit against neighborhood interference tho

>>52852754
>>52851101
i have a niggerslave literally carry the data from the copper directly to me

Would it be possible to get wireless on a pfSense router through PCI without spending serious change?

Not serious about this, just a general curiosity.

>>52854169
does it also function as a trackpad?

>>52857318
It wasn't the CPU, it was the virtual NIC. ESXi can't do gigabit with the native adapters in Linux, at least with the Realtek layer I had.

>>52856726
Oh, sorry >>52857003 for >>52856851

>>52856726
You probably need FreeBSD 11 due new sendfile realization and you will get gigabit on baremetal.

>>52856938
I have the same setup. I recommend Ubiquiti to anyone!

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>He didn't preorder the omnia
Way better bang for $200 than any consumer router

>>52857659
How's the interface and firewall?

>>52857261
What's the power consumption like? Intel SoC as routers are cool but I feel that they generate too much heat and use too much power compared to just getting a router.

If the difference is not too much I would do it though.

Still waiting on a decently powerful consumer ARM chip and board from AMD.

>>52857626
I get gigabit throughput just fine in IPFIRE on this I3. My issue was purely a virtualization issue due to ESXi. Most routers won't route gigabit. Check this out: http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/tools/charts/router/view -- you really need to build something or pay some money to route gigabit. Shitty consumer routers can't do it.

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>>52857735
>generate too much heat and use too much power compared to just getting a router
Where do people live that the power consumption of a small x86 board amounts to anything non-negligible on a power bill?
Heat doesn't seem to be an issue with mine even though it's fanless.

>>52857680
>omnia
>armada 385
>99$
>32bit RISC in 2016
No, thank you.

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>>52857767
I like that celeron solution, I've been looking at replacing my I3 setup with that. People are stupid to bitch about that using 30Watts. I make 145k a year, I have a fucking lab at home with 3 ESXi servers, and 4 desktops. All top tier shit all on 24x7. My electric bill is 100-180 a month and I have central air. Fuck the police.

>>52857778
There is literally nothing wrong with 32 bit on a device with 2GB ram tops.
Also you're still not going to get a device, dual wifi interfaces, SFP, good OS support, mSATA, and hardware crypto accel with case and PSU included for less than $200 (it was $180 plus $20 shipping from EU to burgerland).

>>52857794
Atom, actually. But it still routes at gigabit speeds fine, you only need more CPU power if you're doing some tunneling or using it for non-router things.

>>52857767
Power isn't, but heat is. It's a very sensitive issue to me because I live in the South and it can get very hot. I don't want something that runs 24/7 to fry itself whenever summer rolls around.

>>52857725
For the edgerouter, it's a vyatta fork. basically all the power is in the command line but they made a very good WebUI over it.

for the unifi wifi, I know theres also a command line but it's mainly managed by the WebUI. very well made also.

I've tried pfsense and tomato/ddwrt/etc but I really prefer the Ubiquiti stuff so far.

I've also deployed Ubiquiti stuff for contracts and it's been flawless so far.

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>>52857833
Heat shouldn't be a huge issue. Mine sits at about 20c above ambient tops.

I don't get it
Don't ameritards get a router from their ISPs?
I've never had any problems with them, WLAN or LAN, slowdowns etc etc
what are you achieving with getting one for 200$?
I'd rather just use the free one from my ISP

>>52857378
Get a chinkslave, they work faster and more efficiently.

>>52857885
>not getting it
If you do get a router from your ISP for free, it's almost always a piece of shit. Not that hard anon.

>>52857885
They're almost always shit and offer very little customizability.
Not to mention the ISP might have it backdoored for all you know.

>>52857913
yeah apparently
but how are they shit?
I always had multiple devices connected, WLAN and LAN at the same time, from the time I had ISDN to DSL 50k+, they were always enough and had the newest WPA protocols
never had problems
one broke and it got replaced in two days
but how are they shit?
Are you running server farms on them?
How can they not be enough?
>>52857931
well that I get
you are a tinfoil fedora wearing faggot
case closed

>>52857958
Gee, wonder what country he's from.

>>52857735
it's on a rack with it, 2 wifi ap's and a 24 port managed switch, total power draw is around 100w
>>52857354
>>52855294
it can handle a full 140mbit/s of torrenting, and I've done quite a lot of lan transfers maxing out at around 100-120mbyte/s
I wouldn't say it could handle 100+ users on a 1gbit downlink, but in that case you would be spending more than $200 on a router, mostly due to the NIC's, which I think are realtek and not intel

>>52854591
CCNA is EZ, what are you doing with your life?

>>52857078
the router can be had for less than $100. And you're going to spend as much for any other wifi AP that can do > 1 mbps

>>52858223
Interesting. I wonder how the load would fair on some midrange hardware with a standard dual port Intel nic. Thanks anon.

>>52857958
Some people want more than basic routing done on their network. Being able to set up a VPN, plug in a drive for NAS use, and even doing things like ad blocking on the router are something no ISP provided router is going to be capable of.

>>52851101
netgear n600

>>52854839
Thanks.

Rt-n16 running shibby tomato.

There's nothing shibby can't do.

>>52858071
what would be your guess?

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>>52854135
I was thinking about this one. If you just want the board it named nano-j1900.

mini pc Bay Trail-D quad-core J1900 BAREBONE mini computer 2LAN usb3.0 htpc hdmi 1080p a SIM GSM card slot RJ45-COM
http://s.aliexpress.com/R36ba22U
(from AliExpress Android)

>>52851101
Custom-built PFSense router
Two enterprise-class APs I got for free (Meraki and Aerohive)

>>52855294
Yes, it can handle gigabit.
https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=87074.0

The J1900 is no joke when it comes to diy routers.

>>52858837
Late-posted but see:
>>52861564

Intel NICs are the way to go, Unix has better support for them and they tend to perform better. Get a J1900 board with a pcie slot and install one.

>>52861068
Check NIC brand compatibility.

>>52856101
NAS4Free runs better in a jail.

That board will be heaps to run what you want. Just be sure to get enough RAM for your zfs and do get ECC.

Currently: A WRT54GL running one of the tomato firmwares. It's standing in for my ESXi hypervisor which I stupidly decided to investigate Linux KVM with. IOMMU is shit to deal with in KVM compared to ESXi.

Normally it runs pfsense. Hail to the pfsense gods, you beautiful bastards.

>>52851101
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Home_Router
There isn't any better way to secure your router by hardening it yourself

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Issued by ISP

>>52862813
>pedo router

>>52855236
Yeah, and blows air like crazy. Sucks 500W on idle

>>52856033
>>52856112
Yeah, sure it is unnecessary, but it is also fuckton of fun, while emulators are not.

>>52856192
Bought it for 50$ shipped :")

>>52858354
Mostly hobby programming and electronics engineering.

Over the years my parents have amassed a little collection of ISP issued routers, so our whole home network runs on those

>>52854135

compulab has plenty of tiny, low-power systems, many of which have 2 or more ethernet ports. they're not exactly cheap, but they all have intel NICs which is good for both compatibility and performance.

>>52862871
i have 2621xm and 2950..
me 2501 is unused and just collecting dust.
2950 itself is really loud when it's turned on, i can't imagine yours

>>52863153
Yeah, that's why I have two power strips, top one is for quiet hardware and bottom for mini vacuum cleaners.
Also, I've modded the gbit AT switch to be fanless, stays at 45C so it's great.

>>52854591
>CCNA training
>i need training to install backdoors for the USG

>>52862871
>500w idle

Oh dear lord. You don't run that thing all the time do you?

I was thinking of getting a tp_link archer d7. Is it a good modem? Its just for a home with 4people

>>52854135
95 days on a p4? Damn your energy bill must be higher than snoop dog.

>>52865242
Nah, only occasionally.
The loudest is the Cisco content switch 11501 tho.

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>>52851101
Netgate RCC-DFF 2220 on pfsense as router/firewall(pic related)

HP 1920-8G for managed switch

Ubiquiti UAP-PRO AC for wifi AP

I like it. A lot.

>>52861068
If you are sticking with pfsense get a rcc-(dff|ve) from netgate/pfsense store.

I imagine nearly all of the chink shit off aliexpress is realtek, and you definitely want intel for pfsense/bsd.

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Juniper NFX250

I have an Asus AC68U running an older version of Merlin. I was tempted to slap together a pfsense machine, but couldn't find an actual reason to do it.

This thing does 1Gbps NAT on its own and is rock solid. I restarted it after 6 months of uninterrupted uptime only because I was fucking with other FW versions. Probably cheaper and uses less power than a custom build too.

>>52861564
>mfw I have a J1900 board with 2 network ports
sweet

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Bought pic related today for 120 euros, since it was on sale and I needed a better router. Very impressed with the wireless performance, I desperately needed better wifi since the router/modem my isp provided had shit wifi, and this house isn't wired with ethernet amd it would be a lot of effort to wire every room. My cable is only 50/5 though, but the shitty isp provided routers wifi couldn't even transfer 50 down.

>>52861544
>meraki
This guy knows. I have two. Air marshal is lulzworthy

>>52862871
Here's a guy who literally does nothing with this equipment.

I bet a whole nickel that he bought it just to show it off to people who have no idea what any of it is.

It sits there on its pedestal, collecting dust and wasting power.

So, in like a month or so, I'm getting a gigabit fiber line. I'm considering picking up a(n) Ubiquiti Network EdgeRouter PoE and a UniFi AP AC Lite. I'll have three machines wired, and all the other consumer stuff off of the WiFi.

But right now, got an old NetGear WNDR3700v2 with DDWRT running. S'alright for my current garbage internet through AT&T.

what does /g/ think about using a RasPi (or other single-board computer) with Pfsense for a SoHo router?

>>52869160
For a pet project, just do it.

For an actual appliance you want to work, seriously consider the cost-benefit. Many homebrew copy-paste cheap hardware shitboxes have a legitimately good consumer grade counterpart that costs a fair price without all the fuck hassle.

> /g/
> owning a router

need a new wifi router, must be good bang for the bucks, i dont need top of the line alien technology shit

>>52856112

>implying PTracer is better than the real thing

>implying that PTracer doesn't have problems of it's own, such as accepting etherchannel via LACP when both sides are passive.

>implying PTracer is not missing features that would be needed to cover all the curriculum of other CCNA exams, for example, the ASA simulator doesn't have PVLANS.

Do you even know what you're talking about?

>>52869549
where do i find this magical ptracer other then cisco jew courses?

>>52869836

torrents

>>52869836
you might as well get cisco IOS on Unix while you're at it.

>>52869940
Thanks this looks intresting actually :)
>>52869900