>get a new job
>company is forcing me to use their laptop
>have to pick between $800 shitbox PC with corporate spyware or $2500 maxed out rMBP straight from the Apple store with no restrictions
I told myself I'd never use a single Apple product as long as I live. Do I give in, use the PC and get tracked, or quit?
I think its more of an aesthetic thing, a few years ago before windows followed suit, macs were the only mainstream os with bubbly rounded corner design. It looked pretty faggy by comparison
>I told myself I'd never use a single Apple product as long as I live. Do I give in, use the PC and get tracked, or quit?
Yeah this a totally real dilemma and not a bullshit attempt to get yet another Apple hate circlejerk going.
Actually I lot of companies do this. Its for two reason. First is that enterprise PCs might actually cost more than their consumer counter parts. So the "$800 PC" could have very well cost the company $2000 for the "enterprise" support.
The second reason is that often times a company uses cheap, shitty PCs and are thinking of changing vendors, and a group of managers get together and want to use macs. Then some salesman at Apple convinces them they need the i7 and 16GB ram and they start offering the obscenely expensive macs as a alternative to the crappy PCs for managers and executives who need the extra power for all their spreadsheets and power point presentations.
>has never worked at a tech company
Macbooks are the new chair meme in the tech industry. I couple years back every small tech company bragged about their chairs, and spent obscene money making sure every conference room was filled with $900 chairs. It was how tech companies knew they made it. Now they do it with overpriced laptops.
rmbp > windows botnet > corporate botnet
>I told myself I'd never use a single Apple product as long as I live
Both of you are autistic.
This is bait right?
The ONLY reason to EVER pick the PC would be to do Windows specific development like .NET
There's a reason why every professional dev uses Macs (my work machine is a 2014 maxed out rMBP).
Honestly how many children are on this board?
LMAO, only if by "professional dev" you mean web ui designer or other popular meme career you're pursing, because you obviously aren't working in actual industry.
>company is forcing me to use their laptop
aww it's his first work machine
>has a choice
OP does not like having a choice instead of just being given a shitbox dell or thinkpad with no say whatsoever.
>I told myself I'd never use a single Apple product as long as I live
not sure if troll thread or OP is an edgy dumb kid, either way this thread needs to die.
Run through this list (ordered most important to least).
Pick the one that comes out best.
1. If you need something specific, which one has it.
2. What enterprise resources are available on each platform
3. What are you most familiar with
The botnet shit shouldn't bother you. It's a work machine, you aren't watching CP or recruiting for ISIS for your job (and if you are, your boss should be on top of that shit).
I'm talking about "the" app store. The one apple put on iOS and lead to the play store, the windows store, amazon store, and other retarded OS and hardware specific, isolated, locked down, controlled, monopolistic, vertically integrated platforms that has ground technical innovation to a fucking halt and lead to the extreme amounts of tracking, monitoring, and ad revenue farming of consumers we have to deal with today.
Pick whichever you prefer, the Mac or the Windows box. You're not paying for it anyway.
Remember that it's their laptop, not yours.
They're both proprietary OSes. One is nicer hardware than the other.
It's just a Mac dude. I'll never use an iPhone or pay money for Apple products because I don't believe in their business model of locked ecosystems and materialistic attitude enforcement but I won't deny that they are good machines.
question: do you develop stuff for windows specifically?
if the answer to this question is no, take the macbook. it's nice hardware, if you'll be using an IDE that will look the same anyway and if you won't be using one, chances are it doesn't matter either. OS X has the BSD coreutils and much of anything you'll ever need after you've installed Xcode and the cli utilities, so if you're coming from a linux background, it will be reasonably similar to feel comfy.
don't give in to the apple hate. make your own judgement. it's not like anybody is forcing you to spend your own money there; this is not the time for political statements. pick the one that will make your life easier.
>it department so cucked they allow the most attractive users to exploit use macs
See it literally all the time during audits.
>CEO demands to have Mac
>IT can't tell them no
>ends up giving them a Mac and plaintext ldap nat'd into the pdc so they can access "secure" fileshares from home
The special snowflakes are almost always the most privileged users with access to the I do thieves actually want. Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.
>admitting you're literally an iOS "developer"
Yeah, because clicking and dragging UI items in xcode make you a "professional dev." LMAO. And its iOS, no shit you use OS X, you're forced to.
I tried Windows on it. The track pad drivers are really horrible for Windows. Also performance won't matter much if it's just Microsoft Office.
Have you even used a Mac before? You can't open new applications without extra steps because it switches you to another desktop. The finder, system settings, and some other applications have different behaviors than normal applications. Handling multiple windows with a dock is a clusterfuck. No tabs on top because of the menu bar. It's completely retarded.
Windows 10 gives you the option of having truly separate virtual desktops and has a panel instead of a dock. It beats the shit out of OS X.
>You'd get fired the same day.
I've always asked, and they've always said yes, but then again I'm an admin and have the keys to their whole infrastructure.
With that said, you shouldn't use your work equipment for anything but work. When you leave/get fired all your cookies, store passwords, bookmarks, and personal pictures are the companies property now.
Admin too here,
you are right saying that work-computers should be used for work only but nobody does this really. Anyways you seem to assume that one may store cookies, passwords, make bookmarks and so on. Why storing the cookies and passwords?! Holy fucking shit no! Never do this anywhere.
Hah, no kid, you won't. I worked at a company that issues macs once. I put a boot camp partition on it to play video and watch porn while traveling. When they fired me (unrelated to installing windows), I just dunked the laptop in the bathroom sink and said it was an accident in the rain. They eventually sent me a bill for the laptop but I just ignored it, they never sent it to collections or anything. Not sure if they can do that. Funny, cell phone companies constantly badger me about $20 bills, but you can just blow off companies who are too afraid of you suing them for false termination an shit. It pays to have the balls to stand up for yourself.
>Anyways you seem to assume that one may store cookies, passwords, make bookmarks and so on. Why storing the cookies and passwords?! Holy fucking shit no! Never do this anywhere.
Your reading comprehension is as good as your inglish.
>I'd pick the Mac even if you had a $4000 PC
>overheating 800mhz macshitbook
>calls someone else an idiot
what is it with /g/ users not running at least every os in their house on the many machines they have?
are newfags poor or just shills?
2016 and not running a version of linux and osx and win
>what kind of IT professional are you if you don't fucking know how to use them and easily troubleshoot common problems?
>Except on new platforms they're mandatory
well the store application is installed by default but you don't need to ever use it I mean, I use open source for everything and none of it came from the applestore app thing
This was me 5 months ago
>move to the UK because I need fast money
>company provides me with a pc, k, that's normal
>ask them what my choices are
>lowend dell worth 500 quid vs rMBP 2015 15" maxed out
It took me like 2 months to get used to it. OSX sux, the laptop is bretty good 7/10
>actually debating a huge downgrade just because the good laptop has a fruit on it
>overheating 800mhz macshitbook
you're trying too hard
his work machine will have the same intel cpus as everything else buddy and they don't overheat
>it's like you couldn't go with the cost meme because its paid for by his work, so you went full retard
>>overheating 800mhz macshitbook
That was the new MB with a single USB-C connector, not the rMBP that OP was offered.
Honestly, take whatever. You can use a Windows or Linux VM on the Mac if you need software from those systems. I'm pretty freetarded, but even I would probably go with the Mac. Worked with one at my highschool about 6 years ago and it was actually not too bad. I'd only own one if I got it at a good price or given it for free.
Use a Mac , nigga!
This is probably the first and last time you will get paid to use a superior laptop.
It's like using the best laptop specs with the best and most stable Linux distro. (Except the latter doesn't exist, but osx is pretty good)
DESU laptops in generally are real shitty these days. Its like, you can get a shitty, crippled macbook, or a shitty, cripple "ultrabook" with the same limitations you hate about the mac, except even shittier build quality. So when choosing between two difference flavors of dogshit you have to either go with shitty build quality but a usable OS, or an unusable, buggy mess of an OS but at least functional hardware, even if its shit.
This is truly a "post-PC" world.
>It's like using the best laptop specs with the best and most stable Linux distro
Except the laptop is bad, missing basic features like ethernet, requires a $30 adapter for every connection, fragile, the keyboard is terrible, and the OS is buggy, no customization, shitty UI and poor usability, time consuming to use, etc.
>missing basic features like ethernet
come on anon don't be silly, the rMBP that OP was offered had a fucking ethernet port jesus christ
then i read the rest of your post, I should've just ignored you because you take being wrong to new and dizzying heights
>Alt-F4 makes more sense than cmd-q and cmd-w
>F5 makes more sense than cmd-r for reload
>Alt-230 makes more sense than opt-m for µ
Yes, phonetically based key shortcuts are stupid, clearly. The should all be as random and haphazard as Windows shortcuts!
I thought it was LACK of chairs
rMBPs do not have ethernet. You have to buy a $15-30 adapter to convert a thunderbolt port to an ethernet.
If you have no restrictions, then obviously get the rMBP. Your company is offering you the choice, so it obviously means that the company isn't locked to specific software. You can do whatever the fuck you want with the Mac on your downtime, and just store it on an external drive in case the company pulls a "everything you do on this computer is ours". Dualboot windows, triple boot linux.
>what is it with /g/ users not running at least every os in their house on the many machines they have?
Because my employer has enterprise grade IT support and I expect my shit to just work. If it doesn't people in third world countries like Ramesh in India or Bob in USA will remotely fix my computer. If they can't because it's outside their pay grade then the product owner is responsible for fixing the software.
But then I only install and use approved software and don't use my work computer for personal shit so I kind of never have IT issues outside the domain fucking up access rights.
I worked at Xerox back in the 2000s and my chair was £1300 as was pretty much every other chair. Good chairs are expensive but still much less than physiotherapy for people who get back or neck problems from them sitting in shitty £100 chairs. Almost every job needs certain tools. A plumber needs a good set of wrenches for example. An office working needs a good desk and chair. They work sitting in that chair at that desk doing whatever it is they do for around 90% of the time they are working.
It is funny because I remember companies getting all weird about shit like yoga ball chairs, etc. but they were CHEAP compared to a decent but normal chair. It was just a business workplace meme that everyone fell for. Fuck sitting on some stupid rubber ball or just having a standing desk. All that shit is just as bad for you as a cheap chair.
>this is what appletard shills actually shill
my point was using only a standing desk isn't any better than only a sitting desk. Mixing between the two is by far the best setup. I have a desk I can adjust between several heights depending on what I need it for or how I want to work. I tried using it as a standing desk only for a couple of weeks and I got terrible shoulder and upper back pain. Turns out our bodies are designed to work best with a good balance between standing and sitting. Forcing on or the other just leads to problems.
>benchmarks are not an accurate representation of real-world work and throttling.
Furthermore, downloading utilities to permanently turn on the fan remedy this issue. The throttling only triggers at a specific temp which is due to the fans coming in at a later time than necessary. Once this is fixed, it runs smoothly.
>downloading utilities to permanently turn on the fan remedy this issue
>i-it just werks! really! it does!
They didn't want to burn down the building by trying to run them in the inefficient pile of shit that is OSX. :^)
Give us the specs of the windows laptop, faggot.
>being so petty that you won't use a piece of good tech
The common complaint is that Apple products are extremely expensive for their hardware. But if you can get it for free or a discount, it is 100% worth it. That's why I use a MacBook air that I got for $600 off.
I bought it in 2012 and it ended up being 400 after everything. Find me another laptop that has
>good battery life
>4 gigabytes of ram
From that time period for that price.
You wouldn't need admin privileges to install a VM or partition the drive?
Who the fuck uses Ethernet on a laptop these days?
>requires a $30 adapter for every connection
What part of "company" you don't understand idiot? If he needs one (most likely for plugging a non HDMI monitor) he will request one and get it for FREE
To what? Your fat fingers? A fucking rock?
>the keyboard is terrible
So terrible every laptop now days wants to imitate it
>inb4 implying you can't plug in an external keyboard
> and the OS is buggy, blablablabla
> time consuming to use, etc.
Nigga you just went full retard
Hahaha. Dude everything you do on your corporate network will be monitored so it makes no difference between mac and pc.
Go with the mac tho and throw linux on it. Portable trumps desktop in most cases for work.
The chief complaint about Apple products is that they're shitty. Period. The higher price relative to comparable hardware is just icing on the top of a laundry list of list of issues. The hardware is limited, there's overheating problems, limited ports, limited performance, poor durability, and OS X is riddled with bugs and plagued with problems relating to the fact the core of the OS is essentially 15 year old components tied together with rudimentary hacks to get it to work with newer hardware and tacked on gimmicky UI features. There's limited customization options, and the UI layout (dock + top bar) is space wasting with long, superfluous animations. Windows management in OS X with multiple monitors is so buggy Mavericks and Yosemite were unusable for me. El Capitan has gotten a little better but I'm still struggling with constant bluetooth and usb issues, and its very unreliable when waking up from sleep: opening the lid means about a 25% chance of crashing or some other issue requiring a reboot.
Mine is a 2014 15'' rMBP with the gt750m. After I stupidly "upgraded" to mavericks I actually asked IT for an old windows desktop to use at my desk I hated OS X that much. Its slightly better now, usable at least.