>get a new job >company is forcing me to use their laptop

Take the mac

>>52702504
use the rmbp, youll have a pretty decent time.

>>52702504
mac

>>52702504
It's just a pc m8.

>>52702504
Mac.

Worst case scenario you dualboot windows on it.

>>52702504
Since you don't pay it yourself get the Mac.
You can always install Linux (isn't Torvalds doing the same) so OS X isn't problem.

>>52702504
What is it with autists/neckbeards and literally vowing to never use Apple products?

>>52702504
Take the $2500 mac. It's just a work computer, what does it matter? You play games at home and use your work laptop for work.

>>52702504
I would take the spyware box every day

>>52702504
Mac.

>>52702504
stop being autistic and use the mac jesus

>>52702504
>have to pick between $800 shitbox PC with corporate spyware or $2500 maxed out rMBP straight from the Apple store with no restrictions
TOTALLY PLAUSIBLE SCENARIO HERE

I feel like true freedom respecting /g/ users would never settle with the mac.

>>52702698
this

>>52702644
I think its more of an aesthetic thing, a few years ago before windows followed suit, macs were the only mainstream os with bubbly rounded corner design. It looked pretty faggy by comparison

>>52702504
Quit.

>>52702698
I support this because it helps normal well-adjusted people identify who the freetards are if the other indicators aren't enough.

>>52702504
>I told myself I'd never use a single Apple product as long as I live. Do I give in, use the PC and get tracked, or quit?
Yeah this a totally real dilemma and not a bullshit attempt to get yet another Apple hate circlejerk going.

>>52702698
>>52702709
Freedom to compile from sauce.

>>52702694

Actually I lot of companies do this. Its for two reason. First is that enterprise PCs might actually cost more than their consumer counter parts. So the "$800 PC" could have very well cost the company $2000 for the "enterprise" support.

The second reason is that often times a company uses cheap, shitty PCs and are thinking of changing vendors, and a group of managers get together and want to use macs. Then some salesman at Apple convinces them they need the i7 and 16GB ram and they start offering the obscenely expensive macs as a alternative to the crappy PCs for managers and executives who need the extra power for all their spreadsheets and power point presentations.

ITT things that didn't happen.

>>52702694
Happens all the time man

>>52702698
Why? It is basically FreeBSD with XNU kernel.

>>52702799
>has never worked at a tech company

Macbooks are the new chair meme in the tech industry. I couple years back every small tech company bragged about their chairs, and spent obscene money making sure every conference room was filled with $900 chairs. It was how tech companies knew they made it. Now they do it with overpriced laptops.

>>52702504
Ask for a Razer stealth or HP Omen.

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>>52702504
rmbp > windows botnet > corporate botnet

If the worst job related problem you have is being forced to choose between two computers you don't like you have a fucking awesome job.

Use the mac, get homebrew

>>52702698
>implying OS X isn't a million times more free than windows

>>52703068
app store. enough said.

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>>52702504
>I told myself I'd never use a single Apple product as long as I live
Both of you are autistic.

It's a fucking work machine.
If you like your boss, use the cheapy.
If you hate your boss, use the expensive.
Flip a coin for fucks sake.

>>52703126

The other option is getting a less oppressive job.

>>52702504

Mac

>>52702644
People that are not autistic like /g/ use PCs,degenerate weeb.

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>>52702992
mac = apple+windows botnet

>>52702504
This is bait right?

The ONLY reason to EVER pick the PC would be to do Windows specific development like .NET

There's a reason why every professional dev uses Macs (my work machine is a 2014 maxed out rMBP).

Honestly how many children are on this board?

>>52703343
Including you, 1.

>>52703332
>turns off spotlight suggestions
wooooooow

>>52703343
>professional dev
>fart apps

Fuck off mactoddler.

>>52703370
>he thinks he can just turn off the NSA botnet
iDiots are more deluded than microshills.

>>52702504
take the mac, install linux on it

>>52702644
Apfel is blajdt.

>>52702504

Take the Mac and install Linux/BSD or even Windows on it.

Mac OSX is nice, I'm sure, but their key binding are pants on head re-re.

>>52703343
>professional dev

LMAO, only if by "professional dev" you mean web ui designer or other popular meme career you're pursing, because you obviously aren't working in actual industry.

>>52703109
Every Ubuntu distro has an App store you dumb fuck

>>52702504
>company is forcing me to use their laptop
aww it's his first work machine

>has a choice
OP does not like having a choice instead of just being given a shitbox dell or thinkpad with no say whatsoever.

>>52702504
>I told myself I'd never use a single Apple product as long as I live
not sure if troll thread or OP is an edgy dumb kid, either way this thread needs to die.

Run through this list (ordered most important to least).
Pick the one that comes out best.

1. If you need something specific, which one has it.
2. What enterprise resources are available on each platform
3. What are you most familiar with

The botnet shit shouldn't bother you. It's a work machine, you aren't watching CP or recruiting for ISIS for your job (and if you are, your boss should be on top of that shit).

>>52702504
Dualboot

>>52703428

I'm talking about "the" app store. The one apple put on iOS and lead to the play store, the windows store, amazon store, and other retarded OS and hardware specific, isolated, locked down, controlled, monopolistic, vertically integrated platforms that has ground technical innovation to a fucking halt and lead to the extreme amounts of tracking, monitoring, and ad revenue farming of consumers we have to deal with today.

Choose the Windows computer and ask for Windows 10. OS X is garbage for usability. Especially so if you use more than one virtual desktop.

Source: used a mac for work for 6 months

>>52703512
That has nothing to do with OS X. Fuck off back to r/pcmasterrace or /v/ or where ever the fuck you came from.

>>52703644
Maybe you should fuck off back to >>>/lgbt/ or >>>/fa/ where you belong, tech illiterate mactards aren't welcome here.

>>52703644

OS X comes from the same company, and when they spread the app store cancer to OS X, windows and ubuntu followed suit.

>>52703600

You can install windows on the Apple computer. The windows box they are offering him is probably underpowered (600 bucks windows bucks).

>>52702504
take the pc, really. I would take the pc.

>>52702504
Pick whichever you prefer, the Mac or the Windows box. You're not paying for it anyway.

>>52703126
This.

Remember that it's their laptop, not yours.

>>52702698
They're both proprietary OSes. One is nicer hardware than the other.

>>52703600
>OS X is garbage for usability
>choose win10 instead
>using virtual desktops somehow makes a difference
i can't even

please go and stay go

>>52703682

Oh, you'll be paying for it, trust me, I had a similar choice. OS X is horrid.

>>52703679
why?

>>52703512
>implying valve didn't start the concept of a digital store for software

It's just a Mac dude. I'll never use an iPhone or pay money for Apple products because I don't believe in their business model of locked ecosystems and materialistic attitude enforcement but I won't deny that they are good machines.

>>52703702
Because apple is way more botnet and not intuitive for a winbaby like me. But don't use win10.

>>52703671
>when they spread the app store cancer to OS X, windows and ubuntu followed suit
u know what u have to do~
u fuckin poo in loo~
install gentoo~

>>52703126

>If you like your boss, use the cheapy.
>If you hate your boss, use the expensive.

Not like either is tax deductible.

Aren't macs just x86 PCs? Why couldn't you just dual boot it?

>>52703512
those stores are really just for users who don't know where to get the software they want, lots of people would never have installed an app from those stores.

>>52703743
Except on new platforms they're mandatory. They're trying to make it like that on desktop OSs as well. If normies let them they'll do it.

>>52703423
Been a dev for 10 years. From z/os assembly and JCL to iOS and OSX development.

Go outside kid, get some sun.

>>52702504
question: do you develop stuff for windows specifically?
if the answer to this question is no, take the macbook. it's nice hardware, if you'll be using an IDE that will look the same anyway and if you won't be using one, chances are it doesn't matter either. OS X has the BSD coreutils and much of anything you'll ever need after you've installed Xcode and the cli utilities, so if you're coming from a linux background, it will be reasonably similar to feel comfy.

don't give in to the apple hate. make your own judgement. it's not like anybody is forcing you to spend your own money there; this is not the time for political statements. pick the one that will make your life easier.

>>52702504
Take MBP and put linux on it.

>it department so cucked they allow the most attractive users to exploit use macs
See it literally all the time during audits.
>CEO demands to have Mac
>IT can't tell them no
>ends up giving them a Mac and plaintext ldap nat'd into the pdc so they can access "secure" fileshares from home
The special snowflakes are almost always the most privileged users with access to the I do thieves actually want. Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.

>>52703803
>admitting you're literally an iOS "developer"

Yeah, because clicking and dragging UI items in xcode make you a "professional dev." LMAO. And its iOS, no shit you use OS X, you're forced to.

>>52703678
>>52702613
>>52702637
>>52703416
>>52703502
>>52703739


You can't just wipe the fucking OS on a company laptop. You'd get fired the same day.

>>52703678
I tried Windows on it. The track pad drivers are really horrible for Windows. Also performance won't matter much if it's just Microsoft Office.

>>52703694
Have you even used a Mac before? You can't open new applications without extra steps because it switches you to another desktop. The finder, system settings, and some other applications have different behaviors than normal applications. Handling multiple windows with a dock is a clusterfuck. No tabs on top because of the menu bar. It's completely retarded.

Windows 10 gives you the option of having truly separate virtual desktops and has a panel instead of a dock. It beats the shit out of OS X.

>>52703803
>iOS and OSX development.
>literally visual basic toddler coding for mactards who can't into real code

Ok, kid.

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>>52703900
Found the high schooler

>>52703926

>You'd get fired the same day.

I've always asked, and they've always said yes, but then again I'm an admin and have the keys to their whole infrastructure.

With that said, you shouldn't use your work equipment for anything but work. When you leave/get fired all your cookies, store passwords, bookmarks, and personal pictures are the companies property now.

>>52702504
>worrying about being tracked
you shouldn't be planning to use the company computer for personal use, that's how security breaches happen

>>52703068
this.

>>52703964
>I just finished coding my 10th version of Fizzbuzz in C! I will do Fizzbuzz in x86 assembly next! I'm so much smarter than those hipster web devs who sit in Starbucks all day!

>>52702542
this.

don't take the windows one with the spyware shit, dude. that's fucking retarded.

>>52703975
Admin too here,
you are right saying that work-computers should be used for work only but nobody does this really. Anyways you seem to assume that one may store cookies, passwords, make bookmarks and so on. Why storing the cookies and passwords?! Holy fucking shit no! Never do this anywhere.

>>52702644
What is it with pajeet/homosexuals literally shilling apple products by creating these thinly veiled scenarios?

>>52703926

Hah, no kid, you won't. I worked at a company that issues macs once. I put a boot camp partition on it to play video and watch porn while traveling. When they fired me (unrelated to installing windows), I just dunked the laptop in the bathroom sink and said it was an accident in the rain. They eventually sent me a bill for the laptop but I just ignored it, they never sent it to collections or anything. Not sure if they can do that. Funny, cell phone companies constantly badger me about $20 bills, but you can just blow off companies who are too afraid of you suing them for false termination an shit. It pays to have the balls to stand up for yourself.

>>52702504
The Mac you idiot. I'd pick the Mac even if you had a $4000 PC as a choice.

>>52704131
You sound like you're a douchebag Anon.

>>52703975
It was always the company's property.

>>52704089

>Anyways you seem to assume that one may store cookies, passwords, make bookmarks and so on. Why storing the cookies and passwords?! Holy fucking shit no! Never do this anywhere.

Your reading comprehension is as good as your inglish.

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>>52704158
>I'd pick the Mac even if you had a $4000 PC

>$4000 desktop
>vs
>overheating 800mhz macshitbook

>calls someone else an idiot

>>52703512
The argument was about free OS. You argued Mac made up for its free OS by creating app store. Now you're arguing everyone has an app store. Pick a side.

>>52704092
what is it with /g/ users not running at least every os in their house on the many machines they have?
are newfags poor or just shills?
2016 and not running a version of linux and osx and win
>what kind of IT professional are you if you don't fucking know how to use them and easily troubleshoot common problems?

>>52704131

>play video and watch porn while traveling

I'm surprised someone of your calibre would have their employment terminated.

>>52704251
>everyone has to be a mindless fanboy for a specific side in an idiotic platform war.

>>52702504
Take the mac, put Windows on it

>>52702504
I'll swallow my pride here especially if i can keep the assbook after and sell it

Take the company bait

>>52703756
>Except on new platforms they're mandatory
well the store application is installed by default but you don't need to ever use it I mean, I use open source for everything and none of it came from the applestore app thing

>>52702504
This was me 5 months ago
>move to the UK because I need fast money
>company provides me with a pc, k, that's normal
>ask them what my choices are
>lowend dell worth 500 quid vs rMBP 2015 15" maxed out
>k
It took me like 2 months to get used to it. OSX sux, the laptop is bretty good 7/10

>>52704131
This. If you don't back down you can do almost anything

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>>52702504
>actually debating a huge downgrade just because the good laptop has a fruit on it

>>52703899
imagine the IT employees having to do what the CEO tells them, what a crazy world.

>>52704244
>overheating 800mhz macshitbook
you're trying too hard
his work machine will have the same intel cpus as everything else buddy and they don't overheat

>it's like you couldn't go with the cost meme because its paid for by his work, so you went full retard

>>52704244
>>overheating 800mhz macshitbook
That was the new MB with a single USB-C connector, not the rMBP that OP was offered.

>>52702504
Honestly, take whatever. You can use a Windows or Linux VM on the Mac if you need software from those systems. I'm pretty freetarded, but even I would probably go with the Mac. Worked with one at my highschool about 6 years ago and it was actually not too bad. I'd only own one if I got it at a good price or given it for free.

>>52704131
Glad they fire assholes like you

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>>52702504
Use a Mac , nigga!

This is probably the first and last time you will get paid to use a superior laptop.

It's like using the best laptop specs with the best and most stable Linux distro. (Except the latter doesn't exist, but osx is pretty good)

DESU laptops in generally are real shitty these days. Its like, you can get a shitty, crippled macbook, or a shitty, cripple "ultrabook" with the same limitations you hate about the mac, except even shittier build quality. So when choosing between two difference flavors of dogshit you have to either go with shitty build quality but a usable OS, or an unusable, buggy mess of an OS but at least functional hardware, even if its shit.

This is truly a "post-PC" world.

>>52702504
Use the Mac, install Fedora.

>>52704538
>It's like using the best laptop specs with the best and most stable Linux distro

Except the laptop is bad, missing basic features like ethernet, requires a $30 adapter for every connection, fragile, the keyboard is terrible, and the OS is buggy, no customization, shitty UI and poor usability, time consuming to use, etc.

>>52702504
Doesn't really matter. Never use company property for personal stuff.

take the mac and put linux on it, duh

>>52702694
Shitbox PC have enterprise support costing anywhere in the range of $10000 to $20000 a year. The Mac probably has no support contract at all attached to it.

>>52702613
Who said anything about wiping? Dual boot you idiot.

>>52704791
meant for >>52703926

>>52704617
>missing basic features like ethernet
come on anon don't be silly, the rMBP that OP was offered had a fucking ethernet port jesus christ

then i read the rest of your post, I should've just ignored you because you take being wrong to new and dizzying heights

>>52704573
best advice
/thread

>>52704617
>ethernet port
>feature

>>52703416
>Alt-F4 makes more sense than cmd-q and cmd-w
>F5 makes more sense than cmd-r for reload
>Alt-230 makes more sense than opt-m for µ
Yes, phonetically based key shortcuts are stupid, clearly. The should all be as random and haphazard as Windows shortcuts!

>>52702504
confirmed retard
>>52695246
RHEL

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>>52702850
I thought it was LACK of chairs

>>52704256
>An IT professional should be able to troubleshoot any OS.
Yeah, just like a bus drivers should be able to fly a plane, amirite?

>>52704256
as if it means being able to troubleshoot OS, go back to your consumerism threads retard

>>52705228
that's not what was said, stop being stupid.

using everything isn't special, the anon is right that petty arguing about your personal favourite is what edgy kids from /v/ do

>>52705280
he literally asked what kind of it professional are you if you don't use any OS and aren't able to troubleshoot it, as if it professional means this shit

>>52704819
No Apple laptop has Ethernet.

>>52705202
no, that's why he is called a bus driver, he drives busses you colossal faggot

>>52704819
rMBPs do not have ethernet. You have to buy a $15-30 adapter to convert a thunderbolt port to an ethernet.

>>52702504
If you have no restrictions, then obviously get the rMBP. Your company is offering you the choice, so it obviously means that the company isn't locked to specific software. You can do whatever the fuck you want with the Mac on your downtime, and just store it on an external drive in case the company pulls a "everything you do on this computer is ours". Dualboot windows, triple boot linux.

>>52702850
The eames chair is the rolls royce of chairs. If you can afford them after you've handled all other expenses, you've made it.

>>52703926
>dual boot
>don't use the company os
>when you leave the company, use Disk Utility to delete the other partition and zero it out

>>52704256
>what is it with /g/ users not running at least every os in their house on the many machines they have?
Because my employer has enterprise grade IT support and I expect my shit to just work. If it doesn't people in third world countries like Ramesh in India or Bob in USA will remotely fix my computer. If they can't because it's outside their pay grade then the product owner is responsible for fixing the software.

But then I only install and use approved software and don't use my work computer for personal shit so I kind of never have IT issues outside the domain fucking up access rights.

>>52702850
I worked at Xerox back in the 2000s and my chair was £1300 as was pretty much every other chair. Good chairs are expensive but still much less than physiotherapy for people who get back or neck problems from them sitting in shitty £100 chairs. Almost every job needs certain tools. A plumber needs a good set of wrenches for example. An office working needs a good desk and chair. They work sitting in that chair at that desk doing whatever it is they do for around 90% of the time they are working.

It is funny because I remember companies getting all weird about shit like yoga ball chairs, etc. but they were CHEAP compared to a decent but normal chair. It was just a business workplace meme that everyone fell for. Fuck sitting on some stupid rubber ball or just having a standing desk. All that shit is just as bad for you as a cheap chair.

>>52705402
An IT professional is called an IT professional because he is an IT professional, not a general OS troubleshooter.

>>52705807
>tech support
>useful

all they have is access. they don't fix shit.

>>52705821
>standing desk

Standing desks are godly. Standing desks that have the module to switch between heights are godtier.

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>>52704479
>this is what appletard shills actually shill

>>52706027
my point was using only a standing desk isn't any better than only a sitting desk. Mixing between the two is by far the best setup. I have a desk I can adjust between several heights depending on what I need it for or how I want to work. I tried using it as a standing desk only for a couple of weeks and I got terrible shoulder and upper back pain. Turns out our bodies are designed to work best with a good balance between standing and sitting. Forcing on or the other just leads to problems.

>>52706051
>benchmarks are not an accurate representation of real-world work and throttling.

Furthermore, downloading utilities to permanently turn on the fan remedy this issue. The throttling only triggers at a specific temp which is due to the fans coming in at a later time than necessary. Once this is fixed, it runs smoothly.

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>>52706137
>downloading utilities to permanently turn on the fan remedy this issue

>i-it just werks! really! it does!

lmao

>>52706051
>>52706156
>happens on (Windows)
lel

>>52702694
It's plausible. I worked for a fortune 50 company that gave Macs to employees where our software support required it. The Windows systems were tracked, but the Macs were not.

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>>52706203
They didn't want to burn down the building by trying to run them in the inefficient pile of shit that is OSX. :^)

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>>52702504
Give us the specs of the windows laptop, faggot.

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>141 replies
>to obvious bait

>>52702504
>being so petty that you won't use a piece of good tech
The common complaint is that Apple products are extremely expensive for their hardware. But if you can get it for free or a discount, it is 100% worth it. That's why I use a MacBook air that I got for $600 off.

>>52706289
>macshit
>1366x768 TN screen
>for $2000

>>52706304
>MacBook air
>2000
I bought it in 2012 and it ended up being 400 after everything. Find me another laptop that has
>good battery life
>lightweight
>4 gigabytes of ram
>128gb ssd
From that time period for that price.

>>52706363
>Find me another laptop that has

>literally admitting you're a brain dead retard that's too stupid to type a few words into google

Just kill yourself you piece of shit.

>>52704256
I study OSX and Windows. Had ubuntu stored but deleted it. I think windows and mac operating systems should be standard knowledge at least for a "professional".

>>52704289
Completely missed my point. He/you chose a side then threw the side he chose under the bus along with the side he was arguing against.

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>>52704791
You wouldn't need admin privileges to install a VM or partition the drive?

>>52705161
This is a classic example of trying to be too different and throwing logic out of the window in order to accomplish it.

>>52706425
I can't find anything from 2012. Did you even read the post?

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>>52704617
>missing ethernet
Who the fuck uses Ethernet on a laptop these days?

>requires a $30 adapter for every connection
What part of "company" you don't understand idiot? If he needs one (most likely for plugging a non HDMI monitor) he will request one and get it for FREE

>fragile
To what? Your fat fingers? A fucking rock?

>the keyboard is terrible
So terrible every laptop now days wants to imitate it
>inb4 implying you can't plug in an external keyboard

> and the OS is buggy, blablablabla
> time consuming to use, etc.
Nigga you just went full retard

Hahaha. Dude everything you do on your corporate network will be monitored so it makes no difference between mac and pc.

Go with the mac tho and throw linux on it. Portable trumps desktop in most cases for work.

>>52706289

The chief complaint about Apple products is that they're shitty. Period. The higher price relative to comparable hardware is just icing on the top of a laundry list of list of issues. The hardware is limited, there's overheating problems, limited ports, limited performance, poor durability, and OS X is riddled with bugs and plagued with problems relating to the fact the core of the OS is essentially 15 year old components tied together with rudimentary hacks to get it to work with newer hardware and tacked on gimmicky UI features. There's limited customization options, and the UI layout (dock + top bar) is space wasting with long, superfluous animations. Windows management in OS X with multiple monitors is so buggy Mavericks and Yosemite were unusable for me. El Capitan has gotten a little better but I'm still struggling with constant bluetooth and usb issues, and its very unreliable when waking up from sleep: opening the lid means about a 25% chance of crashing or some other issue requiring a reboot.

Mine is a 2014 15'' rMBP with the gt750m. After I stupidly "upgraded" to mavericks I actually asked IT for an old windows desktop to use at my desk I hated OS X that much. Its slightly better now, usable at least.

>>52702504
Holy fuck, you're a loser. Please quit.