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>AutismKG vs Snapheiser Edition

--PLEASE USE THIS FORM TO GET PURCHASE ADVICE--
>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

>Previous thread:
>>52686579
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>>52691539
Never change virgins
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>buying any headphone other than audeze lcd 3
>not killed himself yet
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Shills pls go
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Oh baybee I fucking love that Osu beatmap, song isn't bad either, which is more than I can say for most rhythm tap songs
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>>52691568
>buying headphones
Never change virgin
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>>52691590
>poor virgin
Never change virgin
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Reminder to always eq your headphones with a proper equalizer.
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>>52691614
>being so poor you buy shitty headphones instead of proper speakers
Never change you poor virgin fuck
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>>52691539
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>>52691706
Fuck off retard, nobody cares.
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>>52691539
Stupid anime fag op forgot the CG pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/dmyGBAjZ
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o look
another one of these shitty threads again

epic anime
epic OP
cool headphone guys
not chinese scam
much wow

>paying more than 50$ for two tiny 2inch circular speakers
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>>52691625
nice dude. i thought my rocs didnt have enough bass (fucking best buy sales people always lying) so i turned it up a bit. for some reason though i couldnt hear anything else, so turning up the preamp slider seemed to help i think
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>>52691625
Is that the beyerdynamic house sound?
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>>52691743
>being this poor
Never change virgin
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>>52691718
you care enough to reply
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>>52691766
>gets BTFO
>posts memes
Never change virgin
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>>52691752
yes

>>52691625
or you could get AKG and not bother with eq
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>>52691774
can the mods ban this salty faggot for spam
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>>52691782
>or you could get AKG
>being this fucking poor
Never change virgin
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>>52691755

>filling 4chan with generic shit
>seriously keeping anime on your harddrive
>participating in generic shit threads
>the audio world is not a scam
>seriously these two tiny speakers are so rich with neutral tones, i can feel the sound painting a five hundred and ninety nine dollar picture

does /g/ need a containment board?
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>>52691797
>>52691774
>>52691755
Comfygrados has been saming his shit lately since i btfo him yesterday lol
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is there a price point where headphones actually sound as good as a ~100$ IEM?
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>Budget ~$75
>Location ~US
>Source ~ Phone (droid turbo)
>Preferred type of headphone ~ looking for headphones for longboarding use. Blueytooth good or no? IEMS are nice.
>Open or closed IEM preferred
>Comfort level ~ High preference desu
>Preferred tonal balance ~ lol idk
>Preferred music ~ Rap / Heavy Metal
>Past headphones ~ Current is Audio Technica m50x but I want something just for outside use.
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>>52691826
>being this poor and being this virgin
I agree, theres should be a poorfag virgin version of /g/, where you could post your memes freely.
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>>52691846
70 ish.
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>>52691539

anime hasn't been relevant in over 10 years now, right?

i mean, once you hit the age of 25, it becomes virtually impossible to enjoy anime, right?
or maybe age 30 the latest

i mean, 4chan was founded on anime, but thats only because everyone was younger and it was during a time when it was OK to enjoy retarded shit, RIGHT??

nobody seriously watches anime anymore or keeps images of anime on their harddrives RIGHT??
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DAILY REMINDER:
ComfyGrados (CG) is an ex-member of Head-Fi who is now a regular on /g/'s Headphone Generals (/hpg/). He posts as Anonymous and is present on /hpg/ for most hours of the day. He often shitposts, samefags, spams and spreads misinformation for his own amusement. It is recommended to report and ignore his posts as replying to them will only fuel the shitposting that occurs when he is present.
>since it seems no one is reading the pastebin
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>>52691856
ath-im50
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>>52691905
boogie man.
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>Budget
100$

>Location
Europe

>Source
Phone mainly

>Preferred type of headphone
On-ear

>Open or closed
Open

>Comfort level
6/10+

>Preferred music
Jazz, early rock, rock
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Reminder not to respond to AKG shills, report and ignore. To identify an AKG shill, remember to look for these traits:

- is a poorfag
- is unemployed
- is a newfag
- is from Reddit
- knows absolutely nothing about audio
- has cognitive problems
- projecting in every post
- inability to form a valid argument
- considers frequency response graphs from anywhere but innerfidelity to be 'unreliable'
- calls someone a sennshill or comfygrados out of desperation
- incapable of learning anything

We thank you in advance for taking the necessary steps to making better threads.
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>>52691900
i am the op. i will be dead serious with you.
i am 29 and i love anime. i just today finished watching fairy tail s1. wasnt bad.

ama
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>>52691915
you misspelled shitposting faggot
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>>52691936
Rattle me bones
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>>52691917
do you mean over ear? on ears suck
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>>52691936
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What are the signs that CG is present?

-Etymotic bashing (spamming anti-Etymotic images, claiming: no bass, poor durability, poor comfort, poor customer service, etc.)
-Beyerdynamic DT770/DT880/DT990 bashing (claiming: poor durability, ear raping treble, no mids, etc.)
-STAX bashing (claiming: tinny, veiled, no bass, poor durability, etc.)
-Sennheiser shilling (shills the HD558 and HD600 excessively)
-MA900 shilling (claims it's the ComfyGod)
-DT250 shilling
-CD900ST bashing
-Claiming the O2 is a hiss monster
-Claiming the K701 is tinny, bright and has no bass
-Claiming the M50 has nigger bass (often comparing it to Beats) and that it's uncomfortable
-Claiming the K712 has nigger bass (often with a Headroom graph comparing it to a Beats headphone and various racist memes)
-Pretending to be a consumer interested in purchasing headphones to respond to himself and shill certain headphones (samefagging)
-Replying to his own posts with text patterns such as "I agree." and "This." (samefagging)
-Creating fabricated stories to bash/shill certain products
-Quoting posts and replying with nothing but an anime girl reaction image
-Inability to back up his opinions with a picture and timestamp of his headphone collection
-Claiming that the waifus of various posters are whores (often in his image filenames, namely Houki Shinonono and Ritsu Tainaka)
-Samefagging that the "Ety Shill" got rekt/told/owned/etc. (appears to be some sort of damage control from some argument that he lost)
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>>52691917
>>52691960
Well I guess, Ive never used on ear headphones actually
My friends told me these will be better
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>>52691988
but most of those are true/loosely based on fact.
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>>52691896
lel I have owned 8 open and closed headphones that cost 300$ or less and none of them had nearly as much resolution and discernible detail as a non-trash IEM (such as the SE215)

If I didn't passionately dislike using IEMs, I would sell all my headphones right now.
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>>52692002
well okay.
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>>52691992
better for what? comfort? cause they suck sound quality wise.
also, if youre going to be mobile with your phone, and other people will be around, you want closed. is this accurate?
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>>52692002
well i mean, what headphones?
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>>52691988
>nerves have been struck this hard
your autism is really flaring up, take your pills
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>>52692022
I have bad experience with closed construction headphones
but if you think some headphones you know would be perfect for portable usage and my music preferences - send them
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>>52692044
watch as he mentions several top of the line headphones and some very popular ones.
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>>52692045
fuck off comfy grados
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>>52692089
>$300 or less
>TOTL
anyway, fundamentally headphones are worse than in-ears/
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>>52692079
alright this is getting too complicated.

if you want portable closed, try 7506 or m40x if you want a detachable cable. 7506 are better though.
if you want open, hd558. the hd558 are definitely the best of the bunch so get those if you really dont mind open. and i apologize if these arent the correct prices over there, im a burger
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>>52692107
not that guy but will you tell us what headphones? it matters
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>>52692124
Thank you anon, appreciate it
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>that image
Fucking christ that song is bitch to play on Osu.
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>>52692140
i'm not >>52692002

either way what headphones doesn't matter because it's a fundamental design issue.
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>>52692154
>playing osu
consider suicide
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>this entire general
Never change virgins
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>>52691752
#burn
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>>52691846
$60 Beyer plastic ones. Honestly, after $150, all headphones are over priced and/or senselessly over engineered to inflate price.
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Well guys, after a week of lurking, internet researching, and deliberating I decided to get my first >$200 headphones and ordered the HE 400S along with focus pads.

Will I be feeling the buyer's remorse?
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>>52692822
>Will I be feeling the buyer's remorse?
yes because you are a poorfag and you bought poorfag headphones
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>>52692822
Not a terrible purchase. They're pretty good with the focus pads.
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is it as simple as this?
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>>52693002
yes
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>>52693002
no, the 5% better thing is highly exaggerated
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>>52693002
This checklist >>52691006 would be more accurate.
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>Budget
less than $50 if you can help it
>Location
USA
>Source
iPhone (something with a volume remote for it would be nice), thinkpad T420
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
IEM
>Comfort level
I don't really care that much desu
>Preferred tonal balance
>Preferred music
Experimental
Rap
A little metal
>Past headphones
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I still can't fucking decice which one to get with pic related
>Sennheiser HD 558
>AKG K612
>Beyerdynamic DT 880
and the constant meme and shitposting doesn't help either
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>that feel when K7xx master race
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>>52693689
The K612 is the best of those 3
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>>52693816
why?
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>>52693689
558 would likely be sensitive enough to not need amplification. Depending on version, DT 880 might as well.

You could pick any one and EQ, that is their main distinguishing feature..
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>>52693924
>Depending on version, DT 880 might as well.
I was thinking about the 250 ohm version
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>>52693832
its more neutral than any of the 3 you mentioned
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What does AKG stands for?
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>>52693938
DT 880/250 ohm sensitivity is not so high, but still more than the K 612. 880 pro?

>>52694026
>Akustische und Kino-Geräte Gesellschaft mbH, shortened to AKG in 1965
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>>52693689
I got the DT880 250 Ohm with the E10K and it sounds great. It would not be able to drive the 600 Ohm version properly, though. It doesn't have the power.
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>Budget
$300 CAD ($214 USD I'm not joking)

>Location
Whiter Toronto Area

>Source
MBP, Xperia Z2, 3DS

>Preferred type of headphone
portable, practical for everyday commuting/walking, good looking (important), inline controls

>Open or closed
See above, but a nice soundstage would be a bonus.

>Comfort level
I've never owned a comfy pair of headphones besides the ATH M35s. Those Panasonic earbuds were fine too.

>Preferred music
'Indie' rock, anime music, Caravan Palace, Florence+the Machine, Drake, Blank Banshee. I'll also be using them for watching anime.

>Past headphones in order of ownership

>Urbanears Plattan
+convenience on 100 (fold up, 1 button remote, looked nice, isolated well)
-really muddy sound, hurt my ears a lot after 5 minutes
>Monoprice 8323
+sounded shockingly good with Random Access Memories, removable cable, isolated well, folded up, $20
-looked goofy, small soundstage, not durable
>harman/kardon CL
+looked so good strangers gave me compliments, good, clear sounding mids was a nice change, instrument separation was OK, removable cable and caring case was nice
-clamped like a torture device, required modding for best sound, soundstage so small it's depressing, remote broke quickly
>Panasonic something-125
+really comfy, not the worst sounding I've ever owned, convenient to carry around, look OK, can lay down in them (unexpected bonus)
-cable noise, sounded dull, build wasn't great, one side is now louder than the other

I bought, and returned the V-moda M-100s because one of the ear cushions was sewn on crooked. I didn't exchange because I wasn't sure if I could handle how recessed the mids were, but I miss everything else about them. Especially the soundstage and bass. If it's worth it and there aren't better alternatives, I may just buy them again.

I'm also considering the SE215 with the remote cable.
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>>52694026
>Acoustic and cinema devices
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>>52694107
>I got the DT880 250 Ohm
that's what I want to get

what kind of music do you listen to?
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>>52694122
>inline controls
That alone right there severely limits your choices.
Are you 100% positive inlines are a must?
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>>52694128
jcore, melodic electronic music, soundtracks
It does game sounds and VoIP well, too.
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>>52694122
K550
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There should be more old headphones, but I didn't want to spend more time on it.
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>>52694102
That's actually closer to what I expected than I expected, if that makes sense.
>>52694138
Anon, you're worrying me.

Fuck, I mean I *could* continue to be without, but I haven't been able to pause my music or change the song without pulling out my phone in literally a year. I really miss the convenience. Especially on a bike.

Though I could always try my hand at modding.
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>>52694176
>portable
>3m fixed cable
>music
>bright
>portable

I have to admit, it was on the list, as was the 552 and more likely, the 545. Is the treble as grating as they say?
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>>52694217
If you have an iPhone you can set up Activator to play/pause on a command you chose. I have volume up/down held skip/rewind track and double press home button plays/pause. That way I can control my music with the phone still on my pocket
You can do that on Android too but they generally lack a home button.
I'm not sure if buying a pair of headphones with a detachable cable and buying an aftermarket cable with inline controls would work.
The only "high end" portable headphones with inlines I can recall right now are the Sennheiser Momentum/Urbanite series and I've heard they're meh considering they cost over 300 bucks
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>>52694276
The K551 actually has inline controls but the cable is non-removable and feels cheap and flimsy compared to the K551/553 and they're still fucking massive.
I own a pair of K550's and they're great all around. I heard they're even better with a proper EQ bus I can't be arsed to set it up
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>>52694107
>>52693816
>I got the DT880 250 Ohm with the E10K and it sounds great.
>The K612 is the best of those 3
FUCK

I CAN'T DECIDE
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>>52694276
>Is the treble as grating as they say?
Depends on who you've been reading. They are somewhat spiky in the treble.
The pads are crap at fitting, both K 545 and 550 derived headphones. This is my main issue with them.
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>>52694362
Fit issues were also mentioned on two thirds of reviews. It's worrying to say the least.
>>52694293
The Momentum series are absurdly priced, and they have the 'pointlessly upscale' look to them with that stupid headband. Sennheiser cannot into aesthetics. The 650 was a fluke.
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>>52694357
Pick what looks nicer. At this point, it's the only difference you can tell without trying then on.
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>>52694497
Beyerdynamic looks nicer desu senpai
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>>52694506
You've made your decision.

Contrary to popular denial, how a product looks really does matter to the end user.
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>>52694589
You're totally right when it comes to open headphones to take outside but closed, I wouldn't be so sure it matters
People wear the Stax unironically
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>>52694637
You'll look at them every day and every night.
It's up to you. If I knew they sounded similar, and were priced similar with similar build quality, the only thing left to do is pick whichever one looks nicest alongside my setup.
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>Budget
$100

>Location
Freedom Land

>Source
3.5mm jack

>Preferred type of headphone
Full

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Maximum comfy

>Preferred tonal balance
The fuck?

>Preferred music
Classic rock, I'd like a good amount of bass though

>Past headphones
Walmart discount headphones
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>>52694952
nvx xpt100 or takstar pro80 with hm5 pads
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>>52694952
K92
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>>52694198
And I thought I was buying too many headphones/IEMs (have a few more not listed on mine).

Is there a reason you chose the MK5 over ER-4P?
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>>52691827
>lately
CG samefags his shitposting since long before the /hpg/.
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>>52695341
autismkgshill wouldn't know, being a redditor newfag.
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>>52695341
well hes been back lately see the faggot who posted above me its him
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>>52693689
Haven't tested the K612 yet, but i's say DT880 is better than HD558.
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>>52695386
you keep believing what you want you filthy fucking newfag.
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>>52695394
>DT880 > HD558
shh some sennshill might disapprove of this fact
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>>52695408
well back to /int/ i guess since i have a guess whats going to happen next
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>>52695432
remember to leave your trip on this time so you can remain filtered, fuckwit.
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>>52695440
i hardly come here kek, and is usually only to see shitposting to the extreme, /hpg/ has a reputaion outside of /g/ anyways
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>>52695412
Nothing against Senn itself, i just think the HD558 is more in league with V6 and other headphones around 100 bucks, in fact, for the price it's currently going on Amazon i'd say it's a great choice for people looking for open-back on that price range.
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>>52695440
lel hes back
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Reminder not to respond to AKG shills, report and ignore. To identify an AKG shill, remember to look for these traits:

- is a poorfag
- is unemployed
- is a newfag
- is from Reddit
- knows absolutely nothing about audio
- has cognitive problems
- projecting in every post
- inability to form a valid argument
- considers frequency response graphs from anywhere but innerfidelity to be 'unreliable'
- calls someone a sennshill or comfygrados out of desperation
- incapable of learning anything

We thank you in advance for taking the necessary steps to making better threads.
>>
DAILY REMINDER:
ComfyGrados (CG) is an ex-member of Head-Fi who is now a regular on /g/'s Headphone Generals (/hpg/). He posts as Anonymous and is present on /hpg/ for most hours of the day. He often shitposts, samefags, spams and spreads misinformation for his own amusement. It is recommended to report and ignore his posts as replying to them will only fuel the shitposting that occurs when he is present.
>since it seems no one is reading the pastebin
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What are the signs that CG is present?

-Etymotic bashing (spamming anti-Etymotic images, claiming: no bass, poor durability, poor comfort, poor customer service, etc.)
-Beyerdynamic DT770/DT880/DT990 bashing (claiming: poor durability, ear raping treble, no mids, etc.)
-STAX bashing (claiming: tinny, veiled, no bass, poor durability, etc.)
-Sennheiser shilling (shills the HD558 and HD600 excessively)
-MA900 shilling (claims it's the ComfyGod)
-DT250 shilling
-CD900ST bashing
-Claiming the O2 is a hiss monster
-Claiming the K701 is tinny, bright and has no bass
-Claiming the M50 has nigger bass (often comparing it to Beats) and that it's uncomfortable
-Claiming the K712 has nigger bass (often with a Headroom graph comparing it to a Beats headphone and various racist memes)
-Pretending to be a consumer interested in purchasing headphones to respond to himself and shill certain headphones (samefagging)
-Replying to his own posts with text patterns such as "I agree." and "This." (samefagging)
-Creating fabricated stories to bash/shill certain products
-Quoting posts and replying with nothing but an anime girl reaction image
-Inability to back up his opinions with a picture and timestamp of his headphone collection
-Claiming that the waifus of various posters are whores (often in his image filenames, namely Houki Shinonono and Ritsu Tainaka)
-Samefagging that the "Ety Shill" got rekt/told/owned/etc. (appears to be some sort of damage control from some argument that he lost)
-calling out "akg shills"
-spam
-/tv/ teir reddit posting
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>>52695593
Nobody reads it because everybody knows it isn't CG.
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>>52695625
it is or its a impersonator/someone who fits the same profile
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>>52695647
How do you even know what CG is like when you weren't here when he was posting?
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>>52695654
top kek i was here before that faggot even left headfi to shitpost here
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>>52695681
You're the only one who thinks it could be him because you have no idea what he was like. Just stop.
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>>52695689
what ever you say buddy
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>>52695197
>I thought I was buying too many headphones/IEMs
Someone had to have written the guides.

>Is there a reason you chose the MK5 over ER-4P?
Don't like any IEM as is. 4S is pretty insensitive, and I equalize it already. It's not like MK5 lacks treble extension in comparison, and it is cheaper.
I had the ER-4 first, but I sent it away since I already had another passable IEM after EQ. That fell apart, so I picked up MK5.

Other comments on ER-4:
>Actually, the peaks and dips drove me insane. Audiophile neurosis at its worst.
>Whatever, more resistive dampers should solve some problems of ER-4S or 4B. I've ordered some, and will eventually have a proper listen to modified 4B this time. Not doing 4S again...again.
I thought I had ordered more dampers than what I actually got. Not that I am in any hurry to get another IEM.
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Just bought this headset. (Hyperx Cloud2 gayman headset) how fucked am I?
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>>52695551
What headphones do you have
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>>52695734
One of the best headsets for gaming, but that doesn't really mean much
A rebranded Takstar PRO 80, so you got a good pair of headphones albeit a bit more expensive because of all the gayming blows and whistles.
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>>52694991
this
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just bought pic related, thanks for the advice /g/
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>>52695764
>rebranded Takstar PRO 80
For real? does it measures the same?
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>>52695795
>>52695827
fuck off comfygrados
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>tfw your beyershit flagship are built worse than chinese headphones
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>>52695837
Literally the same in every aspect. They only modified the earcup a bit to allow the mic jack and repainted it black/red to appeal to teenagers.
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>yfw AKG masterrace
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i seriously hope this akg shilling shitposter is just one person.
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>>52695872
everyone on /hpg/ has AKGs newfag, if you dont already know that you need to leave
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>>52695869
i know this feel
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>>52695891
so nobody in /hpg/ has good headphones? that explains why the opinions expressed are so shitty.
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does /g/ know why hd600 break so easily, i want to get one but im put off by the apparent build quality.
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>>52695926
>sennheiser
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>>52695926
>sennheiser
m80 dont beyer and AKG are better
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>>52695926
Get a k702 then
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>>52695551
buttblasted sennfag
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Looking for COMFY headphones under 200 euros. Problem is I wear glasses (blind without them), can you recommend me something with comfy earpads?
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>>52696636
AKG K612
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Got a LG Tone bluetooth and I like them well enough overall but can't stand the in ear earbunds they come with. I already tried googling but but not having any luck. Anyone know of a replacement bud I can use on this to make it more like the bose in ear with the winglets that does not go into the ear canal.
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>>52695622
Half of this board does at least one of this things, your quest to hunt down one hypothetical person isn't very convincing.
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When did the k612 and k702 become the new fidelio x2 meme? Was there a discount recently?
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In general how are the Sennheiser HD 280 PRO?

I'm not that bright in the "headphone world" so I'm just asking are these any good for general usage. Like are they too bassy or is it a ok-ish/good amount off bass? Hows the build quality?

Any other recommendations on closed back headphone for general usage that's under $200?

I like the price on them and my other option was the meme50s but the price is a tidbit too much for me.
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>>52696782
>hypothetical person
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>>52696867
if your from burgerland get a AKG K553 pro
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>>52696700
okey, ordering them today, hope they are gud
also dubs checked
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>>52696828
Fuck off sennshill, maybe you should try it sometime
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>>52696886
>burgerland

Wat?
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>>52695720
Damn ive tried writing reviews for music players
>fiio tours
And i have a hard time reviewing the audio quality...
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>>52696919
america
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>>52696828
They're just relatively cheap, somewhat because AKG has been putting pressure on the price ever since the K7xx was released.
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>>52696935
fuck off newshit
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>>52696828
Some retard started bashing them. The K702 at least is actually a good headphone. Since the retards bashing them look so dumb ( I mean really fucking dumb) suddenly K702 is meme status.

Kinda wonder if it was some viral shilling?
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>>52697017
It's more of a shitposter backlash to recent K702 popularity which also escalated into shitposting.

If I recall, the K702 was barely mentioned or recommended before January and then got popular after several people bought them around the same time. That anon's right in that the X2 was basically shilled to the same extent that K702 is right now, but then the X2 glued earpads shit went down and no one likes Fidelios anymore.
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>>52697066
It also helps that they're just a bit over $200 but outperform almost everything under $1000.

Not too sure when they dropped to that price but I don't think it was too recent.
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>akg shill replying to himself because nobody will reply to his blatant shillposting
how pathetic
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>>52697125
>triggered
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>>52697125
>Since the retards bashing them look so dumb ( I mean really fucking dumb)
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>>52697136
>>52697137
>within thew same second
>samefaging
ok kid
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>>52697106
It feels like whatever's a good value or sale around that 200 dollar or euro sweet spot gets popular since that's one of the most popular budgets to get asked about.

I wouldn't say the headphones at that tier outperform the usual recommended stuff near $1k though. Most people would probably prefer something like the HE-560 or LCD-2 if budget is not an issue.
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>>52697179
>LCD-2
Bit more than or at $1000 new from most places.

I didn't say it outperforms everything just almost everything. Those two examples you gave are really the only ones that I think would be "better". And they cost a lot more.

The K702s weren't always cheap either.
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hey guyz what to buy K612 or K702? Price does not matter.
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>Budget
$50-100
>Location
US
>Source
Phone/ipod
>IEMs
With mic
>Closed*
*some sort of noise cancelation
>Comfort level
1-2 hours at a time
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy
>Preferred music
Everything/electronic
>Past headphones
Some $20 skull candy shit
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>>52697242
I thought it's not uncommon to get the LCD-2 new around $900.

Anyway, I've always been averse to saying a certain headphone outperforms most other headphones above it, since the only ones that we care about are the top performing headphones.

The $200-300 tier is just the big diminishing returns area with lots of good competition, so naturally it gets the most shitposting. Maybe it'll be DT880's turn again to be the popular recommendation, we had the HD600 recently and K702 now.
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>>52697356
>I thought it's not uncommon to get the LCD-2 new around $900.
Is it now under $1000? I may have to pick one up then.

The HD600 posting comes and goes. Never lasts long. I doubt anything from Beyerdynamics will get popular. Shitposing will either be "nigger bass" or "ear rape treble".
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>>52697297
k702
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>>52697407
Quick search yielded http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-FACTORY-WARRANTY-AUDEZE-LCD-2-Planar-Magnetic-Headphones-/231812571468?hash=item35f91b214c:g:rPwAAOSwHaBWlhj9

The main problem with HD600 is that Sennheiser are jews about pricing, so it's rare for them to get extended low prices or sales. I think it's been a while but DT880 gets more popular every now and then, usually when people ask for more bass in that range.
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>>52697538
Ya I think I may have to get a pair by the end of the year if they're at $900 now. Maybe they'll drop a bit more?

The whole Sennheiser line is stupid overpriced considering the build of their headphones and age.
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>>52697568
The HD600 and HD650 are pretty much coasting on their reputation as "classics," but yeah I never understood why Senn can't update the build quality from the cheap tacky 90s marble stuff.

On the other hand, HD800 is pretty much the only recent flagship success out of the big three manufacturers, and it's had pretty good pricing whenever it's gone near ~$1000 recently. Of course for the new HD800S you would probably have to wait years for a similar good discount.
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>>52697650
>HD800 is pretty much the only recent flagship success out of the big three manufacturers, and it's had pretty good pricing whenever it's gone near ~$1000 recently. Of course for the new HD800S you would probably have to wait years for a similar good discount.
I'm not saying they're bad but lets be honest. The popularity has more to do with who's wearing them and not so much the quality of it.

They're like $1300 low end. Not like they're using that great of materials in the build. When I first saw them I thought "cool a $700-$800 headphone to beat everything". And then I saw the price.
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I have akg k7XX's
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>>52693999
It's not.
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>>52697694
>The popularity has more to do with who's wearing them

Wait, are they shilled by some celebrities unbeknownst to me?

I don't own the HD800 myself, but I haven't heard many complaints about the build quality aside from maybe the paint. It's the only dynamic headphone over $1000 that is commonly recommended now, while the Tesla headphones and K812 flopped, so by that measure I think it's a success.

Everyone can blame Sennheiser for starting the overpriced flagship trend, but at $1000-1100 street price these days the HD800 is good relative to the absurd $2000-$4000 stuff being released.
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Scarlel rose
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>>52697791
The Senn team brings that headphone to a lot of places. Not sure of any specific celebrity who wears them though.

Just about every eceleb on youtube has been seen with them since they're at a ton of shows.
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>>52697727
you are part of the master race
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>>52697766
fucking beyerfag
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>>52697791
>but at $1000-1100 street price these days the HD800 is good relative to the absurd $2000-$4000 stuff being released.
Lots of SR007/009 owners tend to come back to them, says a lot about them.
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>>52695926
They really don't break that easily... I wouldn't want to throw them around but I don't see how you can break break them in use.
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>>52697897
I'm not a brandfag but the DT880 isn't it either.
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>>52697989
It comes from people stretching the headband to reduce clamp. There are lots of people with 10+ year old HD600s, so it's not typical wear and tear.

Then again, Sennheiser was retarded for not testing this before production. I mean you have to expect people will try to actively bend your headphones.
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>>52698011
>he thinks veil in neutral
lol
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>>52694122
How about this? Buy the K553 Pro, a 3.5mm f to f connector, and some third party headphone cable w/remote, and kijigger them together in such a way that the entire length of the original cable is neatly coiled and zip-tied to the headband, leaving essentially just the cable with the remote?

There are several places this setup may be too goofy looking for. I may also need the pair of SE215s or a comparable IEM.
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>>52698184
why would you need a remote?
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>>52695858
This is bad build quality, it's just an invisible fault in the material, in this a 2mm aluminium sheet.
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>>52698991
Its a beyerdynamic flagship, besides yo wont find a broken K812 or HD800
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>>52698954
because that was the requirement of the person asking?
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>>52691583
>tfw i can't pass the map for shit
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>>52693689
HD558 is only $90 and doesn't need an amp. It sounds excellent.

Watch out for it potentially breaking though.
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>>52699489
fuck off sennshill it sounds like shit
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UrKy1EuO0k

M50x BTFO xDDD
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>>52691539
h a r d e s t m a p
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>>52699912
>not for anything on analysis
what the fuck
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IEM

>Budget
$50
>Location
Sweden
>Source
Just my edge + and soon buying easy amp/dac.
>Preferred type of headphone
Idk, never owned IEM before
>Open or closed
-
>Comfort level
100%,
>Preferred tonal balance
I like mids and bass.
>Preferred music
Hip hop, cloud rap
>Past headphones
Fidelio X2, M50x, DT770
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>>52700214
e10
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>>52700229

Full name please sir!
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>>52693807
if theyre so great why do you look for confirmation in EVERY thread?
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>>52700033
It's not even close. Like it's not even within the tier.

I had no idea we had so many osu! players.
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>>52700234
if you couldn't find them easily, I'd give the full name
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>>52700263
newfag
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>>52700263
>so many
I'm sure there's a few but not that many
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>>52698954
Because having to take off your hood/hat and headphones, and unplug them AND take your phone out of your pocket just to answer a call shouldn't be something I have to do in (current year) in sub zero temperatures.

What about the Bowers & Wilkins series? I've heard good things about the P5/P7.
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>>52697791
The only complaint about the 800s' quality is the paint apparently gets chipped easily.
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>>52700973
>Because having to take off your hood/hat and headphones, and unplug them AND take your phone out of your pocket just to answer a call shouldn't be something I have to do in (current year) in sub zero temperatures.

just buy anything with a remote, you won't find anything decent
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anything that sounds somewhat like the HD600 (especially the mids) but isn't a ugly plasticy piece of shit?
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>>52691539
what's a good pair of reference headphones?

im thinking shure srh840
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I got the ATH-M50s this weekend. Like them, but they're very heavy on mids and treble. Kind of giving me a headache right now. Hopefully my ears adjust to it though.
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>>52701426
well im thinking arbys
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>>52701429
why would you buy those?
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>Budget
Below ¥5000
>Location
Japan
amazon.co.jp
>Source
Nexus 6P
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Comfortable, I guess...
>Preferred music
Lots of podcasts/audiobooks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-pfLbrbb2Q [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLUX0y4EptA [Embed]

I've posted the other day and you guys gave a couple nice suggestions. I was going to proceed with the buy today but I realized that there are a bunch of discounts on some more expensive (~¥15000) IEMs amazon.co.jp today for some reason. Could you have a look at it again?
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>>52701328
SRH1840 in a way. It's brighter and has less bass.
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>>52701457
Because they have a good reputation, and a lot of people I know have them and like them.
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Why are Headsets considered as bad choice?
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>>52701496
we would have told you that was going to happen. and no, it's not going to get better. you will have to always listen at a lower volume, lest you get destroyed by the treble. why didnt you just come here and fill out the form? theyre just a hyped headphone, nothing special
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>>52701429
Umm it's a bassy headphone with uneven response in mids and treble. EQ.
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>>52701519
Because, for some odd reason or the other, no one seems to like to make models of high end headphones with built-in microphones.
Almost all headsets are either cheap low-end gear, or 'gaming gear', which sound terrible with music.
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>>52701519
Because most of them suck, almost none have any documented and measured performance available and they are generally very pricy for the product you get. Microphones used in them is often terrible and build quality is plastic with styling trying to appeal for kids.
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>>52701554
not even this guy, but to add on to this, somehow the mics are always trash as well. and a lot of them have problems transporting the different audio streams through 1 line.

seriously. a 2 dollar chink mic glued on to a 40 dollar pair of super are better than any headset on the market, except maybe a hyper x cloud 1. but thats not saying much about gaming headsets in general, just because one set is just okay
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>>52701577
superlux*
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>>52701480
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0183PYMES
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00UR5BPAC
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B018IET0U0

Some of the discounted IEMs that I've seen, but I have 0 idea if they're any good.
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>>52701652
I've never heard of the first two. But the last one is okay, I never tried it myself. I'd still suggest stick to suggestion in the last thread though.
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>>52701193
Decent is subjective.
I've heard good things about the P5. Apart from being on-ear, they're physically ideal for me. It's now on the list.
>>52701541
>Umm
Kill yourself.
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>>52701917
>decent is subjective
youre not here to get help, youre here to say what you want. fuck off you little shitstain, grab your little POS bt mic phones
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>>52701917
>Decent is subjective.
well yes, some people think gamer headsets are decent, some think 30$ headphones like superlux are decent & some think 200$ headphones are decent

but I'm talking LITERALLY decent, as in you'll be ripping your ears off if you listen to anything worse
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>>52693398
I still need help anyone
are xiaomi pistons any good
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>>52702429
e10

I got pistons & they're pretty bassy & uncomfortable IMO

but they're my first in ear canal earbuds
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How many times does the ATH-M50s need to be BTFO by reddit before /g/ learns it's lesson?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I03zd2H-Fno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnOlHAfHfQE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UrKy1EuO0k

GARBAGE
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>>52703489
I've never had them and have moved beyond that price range, but I hear the M50X is fairly okay at least.
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I'm not a cuck/autist.

Recommend me some good over the ear headphones /hpg/ in the $50-100 range please.
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3 of my last headphones had one side die after a year.

Is there a durable headphone that doesn't break after a year?
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Going to paint my dt770, which color should i pick?
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>>52691539
I bought sennheiser HD180
Did I do good? I'm a poorfag
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>>52702044
I'm so sorry my interest in mobile convenience™ has offended your entire bloodline. Enjoy your Stax.
>>52702192
Fine. What's the bar for headphone decency, where it is still possible to leave the house with them on?
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>>52704231
What price range were you buying in? I haven't had that happen.
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>>52704369
indoor, outdoor, class or work
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>>52704411
no
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>>52704546
$30-$40

I guess that's pretty cheap. But I have possibly higher budget now. Maybe up to $100
Also, I travel with them from time to time and don't really bother being nice to them.
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>>52704369
Pink.
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>>52704603
That's probably why. Anything in that $50-100 price range shouldn't break so easily as long as it's of decent quality. With that said maybe someone can recommend something cheaper, too.
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>>52704603
>>52704642
>poorfag life
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>>52699912
>16 minutes long rant
>All that shit in his room

Are all audiophiles like that? Does he even listen to music?
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>>52704642
I'm unironically suggesting the Skullcandy Grind. I got a chance to try on a pair at Bestbuy, and they were kinda nice. $55, and built surprisingly sturdy despite being so light on the head. Earpads were nice and cool, though they didn't block out that much noise. They sounded better than I remember any Skullcandy sounding before, including the old Lowrider.

+sound pretty good
+light, comfy for an on-ear
+removable cable, control button and mic built into ear cup
-poor isolation
-doesn't fold up
-mic built into ear cup
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>>52704983
>+sound pretty good

yeeeeaaaaaaaah
I doubt that
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dead thread
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>>52705089
Your doubt means nothing. I heard them with my ears. What have you got?
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>>52706030
oh it's the kanye poster nvm
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>>52706030
measurements. pic related, i measured my headphones just now.
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what are some better but not expensive earbuds for a phone? around 50usd +-
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>>52706223
e10
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>>52706075
but thats drake
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>>52706075
>the
>kanye
Wew.

At least it isn't smug anime boys.

I gave a suggestion. You shitposted. Now you see the difference between you and I. >>52706184
Yeah, that line was a great suggestion between $50 and 100 USD. That anon will be pleased with your advice of a line on a graph.

Posts like this highlight the problem with both /g/ and the """ audiophile """ community.
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>>52706322
He knows. He was just shitposting.
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>>52706361
no posts like this highlight the problem with the mentality of the general public
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>>52706387
>>52706361
>>52705089
>>52704983
I think "Hey I like it" is a valid point to make to be honest. There's at least a bit of value in it, though not all that much unless you can compare it to some other competitors at the same time.
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>>52706361
>advice
that wasnt supposed to be advice, that was me being better than him
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Does anyone know where I can get a coiled cord for 598s?
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>>52706387
*tips*
That they're willing to at least try to help someone? It's unfortunate that a brand name hurts your feelings so much.
That they're not dumb enough to spend an ungodly amount of time and money just to listen to music?
It's a shame your priorities are so fucked up.
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>>52706557
except they cost more than things significantly better
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Anyone owned a pair of NVX XPT100s?
I'm looking for closed back headphones with mostly neutral sound response and I almost bought MDR V6 but I've read about these and they look pretty interesting.
Quick note, I'll be using them to play games as well so if anyone has any insight on which would be a better pick for that I'll be sure to respond with lewd reaction images
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>>52706631
the v6/7506 would be more neutral. xpt100 is going to have more bass and less treble.
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>>52706577
That's more like it. We may actually help someone after all.
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>>52706697
making sure he doesnt buy the skullcandies is helping him more than giving him a rec at this point
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>>52706675
Yeah I know that much since I read most of the reviews for both of these, but my main questions are how they compare to each other and which one would be better for games (for example from what I've read XPT100s have a wider soundstage which would make finding targets easier)
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Anyone have any experience with the AKG K240 Studio (the gold version)? Anything else I should consider around the 80€ price point?
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>>52706631
Deliver.
>>52706718
It's something instead of nothing.
Do better.
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Can't wait to get my a900x's. I've never owned a decent pair of headphones. It's taken 5 weeks to have them shipped properly and have a tracking #.

Always double check the shipping destination.
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>>52706748
>80€ price point
what
where the fuck you getting them from?

I think things that are open around that pricepoint are either the hi2050 or the 558
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>>52706532
Dumb frogposting sennfag
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>>52706762
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>>52706764
why did you buy those instead of consulting us?

>>52706762
>Do better.
no, not unless he fills out the form properly
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>>52706725
People overexaggerate the soundstage stuff. The main Sennheiser lineup is supposed to have a great gaming soundstage. The Hifiman line is supposed to have a poor soundstage period. I've found them both to be pretty much the same.

Trust me, unless you get something really awful, you're not going to lose out on clear positional audio.
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I haven't checked up on you guys for a few months. Looks like this place hasn't changed much, i.e. not much new going on. Keep it up.
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>>52706904
thanks for taking over helping him for me. i dont deal with memers
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>>52706631
>Quick note, I'll be using them to play games
most people won't like neutral, especially for games
warmer sound is better for that purpose because it'll give a lot more OOMPH to explosions and the sort
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>>52706748
I have a friend with them and he says they sound great. Haven't heard them myself. I doubt you'll be disappointed for that price.
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>>52706904
Thanks man, the audio tech scene is pretty new to me so it's hard to tell the difference between audiophile memes and advice
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>>52706947
Hey the lewd pictures were the only thing I could come up with to give in return, I don't expect free advice
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>>52706980
i was referring to your belief in soundstage. im done arguing with people over whether soundstage exists outside of closed vs open. if you really want it, get open headphones. otherwise just get something neutral, or something warm if you want this >>52706951
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>>52706958
It's not really a meme. In some ways everything from the angle of the drivers to the shape and material of the earcups (and how they sit on your ears/head) can alter how sound reaches you, and thus change the perception of depth. However, people act like it's this tremendous difference and it's not. Unless you're deaf you can still hear where things are coming from in an FPS.
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>>52706951
I just don't want bassy headphones and loud explosions and gunfire are extremely distracting. I'll go see if any stores have neutral headphones I can try though.

>>52707009
Fuck man, every guide and review talks about soundstage what do you want me to think.
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>>52707049
Okay I see what you mean, I just wanted I wider soundstage because I'm getting closed-back headphones when open-back are supposedly better for that.
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>>52707062
well there's varying amounts of bass, 7506/v6 is about as low as it goes for closed headphones and still low compared to open headphones
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>>52706786
http://www.thomann.de/gb/akg_k_240_studio_kopfhoerer.htm
Checked a couple of other sites and they all are at that price point.

Open/Closed/Semi-open doesn't really matter much to me. I'm mainly interested in a fairly balanced frequency response.
I'm coming from a HD 681 Evo, but I'm looking for something a bit more sturdy this time
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>>52707138
I don't mind low frequencies, I just don't want them boosted because it fucks with my music and it means that any FPS I play just sounds like the Chinese New Year
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>>52707209
balanced or neutral?
they're not the same thing
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>>52707209
http://www.head-fi.org/a/headphone-buying-guide
here you go buddy :)
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>>52707245
go for the xpt100s then, not becuase of the "soundstage" but because they're more "fun"

unless ofcourse you've used neutral headphones before, where nothing compares to 7506 nearby the budget
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>>52707341
I'm open to both, maybe I worded it badly but something like a v-shaped response doesn't bother me.
I don't want headphones where a part of the spectrum stands out (e.g. massive bass, piercing highs, etc.)
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Is there Fiio E10K knob size that is much longer than original?

See on picture
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>>52707411
Nah the only headphones I used in my life are V-Moda Crossfade LP which a friend had and JVC HA-RX700 which are my sister's. I've only used earphones before.
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>>52707458

From ebay
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>>52707478
IIRC vmoda is pretty bass heavy, might just be the one/two models people usually talk about though

>>52707455
yeah, they should be good then, maybe treble will be a bit too strong for your taste but you should be able to slightly tune it down if it's too much
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>>52707478
>>52707528
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/VModaCrossfadeLP.pdf
less bass than expected, still a lot more than 7506
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SonyMDRV6.pdf

if you found the bass on the LP too much you could go for the 7506, wouldn't do it otherwise though
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Why if Sienna Shills likes Sennshills?

But so for away in build quality
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>>52707555
As far as I remember the LPs were pretty muddy, so I'll just use that chart as reference, thanks!
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>Budget
$60-100, will spend more if there's a price-quality plateau up to maybe 150
>Location
USA
>Source
phone - GS5
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
minimal leakage preferred so i can listen to loudish music at work
>Comfort level
high, equally as important as sound quality
>Preferred music
electronic, heavier rock genres.
>Past headphones
ath m50 is what i have for home use

i'm looking for a sound-comfort-reliability balance. "good" sound is good enough, i'm not a connoiseur. if one of the earbuds dies in 3 months though i'm going on a shooting spree.

thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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How much improvement in sound quality will I notice if I go from ~40$ headphones to ~150$ headphones? I seriously find it hard to imagine how what I am listening to right now can sound better.
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>>52708182
its like going from 1080p to 1440p
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>>52708179
ATH-IM50 to go with that m50. Bass boost as well as nice build, even if the earpieces are kinda large.
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>>52708182
This >>52708209 is a pretty good explanation.

I'd say they're between half and three quarters of the way there at least.
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Also if you enjoy your current ones then don't upgrade. You're wasting your money and gambling on a sound signature you might hate. What works now is almost always what's best.
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>>52708182
>>52708209
>>52708480
i mean... it depends what those headphones are, both at 40 and 150, duh?
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>>52708179
Etymotic Research MK5 is the only answer
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>>52708849
Ety shill
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>>52708497
I'm estimating the comparison is between the best at both budgets
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>>52708861
They're a meme for a reason
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>Budget
$50
>Location
USA
>Source
Laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
Comfy but would sacrifice for better quality
>Preferred music
Hip hop, lots of classic rock, salsa music, jazz, got a lot of variety
>Past headphones
kek
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>>52708849
Certainly the best sounding pair in the price range but far from comfy.
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