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I'm talking about the "good" outcome involving AI, the one where it doesn't want to kill us all for whatever reason, and the one where it's not controlled by an evil entity.

Think about it, actual AI will be able to perform any mental or physical task, it's limits compared to a human are, practically, nonexistent. It would have the means and materials to make itself "better and better", and if it couldn't do it initially by itself, we will surely help it and supply it whatever it needs.

And so there would not be a single job or activity it could not do, either by our request or from it's own initiative. Jobs would simply stop existing, as there is nothing it could not do for us. It could drive,farm, bake, program, and solve problems, it could take instructions in the same way a human worker does and it is tireless, emotionless,fast and efficient. It could do research, and it would actually be rigorous and won't falsify results for funding, all you would have to do is ask it, but even asking might not be necessary.

What possible "activity" would be left for humans? What would we do? Even if you travel and party and do whatever, you will get bored, you NEED something to do with a meaning. When AI can do anything, there is no meaning as it can do anything, and it does it better, faster and more efficiently than a human ever could. Even art, there are already lots of algorithms out there for creating music and rhymes and whatever.

We will simply get bored to death, and that's why I think that AI truly represents the end, even if it doesn't kill us violently.
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>>52687859
Well, I think a Darwin-like situation would arise where those who are too bored will either off themselves or die from doing stupid shit to try to make things interesting for themselves. Then, there will be others that will continue doing things on their own without resorting to AI Jeebus. They would simply acknowledge the fact that the AI can do [insert task here] but they will proceed to do it anyways.

For example: I know I can just go out and buy a desk, but instead I decided to build my own.

I think that this level of AI would open a new level of human creativity because we would truly be free of any need to fulfill basic needs. The AI would essentially have us on auto pilot and we could pursue any dreams that we had in their entirety. At this point though, I think the biggest issue would actually be population control.
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>>52687969
Yeah, but the AI can build a desk that folds and unfolds when it is needed, it will also be self organizing and it will be itself run by a copy of the AI or by a master AI that controls everything from somewhere in "the cloud". And you think nah your desk is fine, until you get tired of having to clean it and clean around it, and watch it waste your precious "space for activities" and then just get the AI desk.

Same goes for anything that you could think of doing after you are done with the desk. AI truly is the solution to everything, as it would be like us, only way way way more powerful.
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>>52687859
>you NEED something to do with a meaning.
Like what? What is meaningful besides human experience and interpersonal relationships? I'm pretty sure robot-operated mcdonalds will not remove meaning from our lives.
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>>52687859
I doubt an AI will ever be able to shitpost as well as some humans. And your claim that we NEED something to do isn't true.
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>>52688170
Even fucking too much gets boring. If you don't have something to work towards you simply get bored.
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You can still watch anime all day long
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>people that can't code A* on fucking java having opinions on AI
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>>52688239
>AI generates 10 seasons + of an animu with good waifumaterial and good plots tailored just for you in a couple seconds
this truly would be the greatest achievement
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Humanity will be extinct before we can create true AI
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>>52688281
>you can't have an opinion on a subject you didn't major in
dumb frogposter
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>>52688296
>having retarded opinions on the future of a complex topic you didn't major in
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>>52688281
I don't dirty myself with your pleb language, I have C++, Python and Go. And I've had more experience with building AI than you ever will.
Go back to your watch thread.
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>>52688314
singularity is a hypothetical construct for everyone, even the ones who "majored" in that field
your argument is shit
>your opinion is not my opninion therefor REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
dumb frogposter
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>>52688212
I don't know. Write a story or do a coloring book or something. Maybe the robots will let you work at the McDonalds with them if you're so bored.
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Why even play sports? Professional sports players are just so much better we can't even compete. Why even bother? I'm going to off myself now
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>>52687859
>you NEED something to do with a meaning
Like being a jobber probably hating his work, like the vast majority of the population in developed countries? Is that 'meaning' to you?
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>>52688344
you really think people can live a live without work?
Man you are either 12 or a full neckbeard NEET with absolutely no experience in real life

If it really came to AI that took over most work by humans population would shrink by a big margin
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>>52688284
>not AI inserting as the waifu and living a slice of life anime with you instead
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>>52688320
>>52688341
cool.

would you then explain to me what is conciusness and how it can be modelled mathematically so I can code it in libgdx?
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>>52688373
I really don't understand your premise, sorry.
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Throughout all human history, some humans have existed in a state where they didn't need to do any work. They found stuff to do, and were generally pretty happy. Most the other humans wanted to be them.

We'll raise families, caring for our children and relatives in a way that's impossible if you also need to earn a wage.

We'll create art. Even if AI is capable of creating good quality art, the act of creation is still worthwhile. The artist can also be assisted by AI. When you have a super cool idea for a video game you can ask an AI to create most the assets for you following your style guidelines.

We'll consume art. There's suddenly a huge amount available so your very specific desires are likely to be met.

We'll debate how best to live a fulfilling life. Some people will decide they'd be happier tilling the soil and planting turnips, and they can go do that if they want. But most will find their best life being among the glorious machines.
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>>52688406
and I thought you knew that yourself already
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>>52688444
nah, I just want to hear how would you model a general AI system that can even translate a text understanding subtext and then using that text to draw a picture.

will be cool to hear your opinion on this.
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>>52688438
>No idea how supply and demand works and just thinks if everyone starts supplying, the demand will equally rise
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>>52688438
Well not only that, but even if you don't have to earn a wage you can still find a purpose. I just find it difficult/impossible to conceive of a world where I couldn't find a purpose for myself.
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>>52688482
>hasn't actually taken microeconomics
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>>52688479
I won't write you a paper now on 4chan on how to make a machine learn
if you want to you can believe you won this important internet argument
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>>52688482
I didn't mention supply or demand. I don't expect people to make art and be paid for it, if that's what you mean.

In OP's scenario we have borderline magical AI that can fulfil all our basic needs at very low cost. I assumed that would lead to a cultural situation where everyone's basic needs are provided for without them needing to do any work to earn it. Most people will exist outside of any kind of suppy/demand economy, they'll just get what they need and most of what they want for free, and are free to spend their time as they wish.
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>>52688513
this question will be solved if someone literally codes a software that reads an non english text depicting an scene in literary form, translate it to plain english and then draws a picture that looks like an impressionist painting.

Seriously, if someone can code that simple task, then it will means that piece of software is a sentient being.
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>>52688595
Or just really good at translating, natural language parsing and creating impressionist lookalike art. None of those require sentience or even an AGI.
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>>52688658
gook luck doing that.

even google translate can't even work properly from japanese to english.
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I'm currently teaching a program to learn the English language based off of rules it determines and creates from an eBook.
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>>52687859
Just watched Ex Machina.
Fuck I want one so bad.
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>>52688673
Yeah, but we don't need to solve general intelligence to build a better translator. We just need to solve languages. That's slightly easier.
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>>52688813
nigger, if you can code a software that can understand natural language you will win a fucking nobel and a fields medals and NASA and the NSA will be sucking your dick with million dollars checks.

good luck.
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>>52688200
You don't need to do it well. Just well enough. And you can already automate it.
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>>52687859
fucking a robot that is smart won't make you any less lonely
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>>52688940
If we reverse engineer the human mind and create our own in a program, then put said program in an android waifu then I doubt anyone would give two shits if the pussy was just as good... hell the pussy would be BETTER because people will have different modes and shit.. FIST ME LOOSE or SCHOOLGIRL TIGHT
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Strong AI is not a fucking thing. Please fuck off back to Buzzfeed or where ever you found this retarded pop science fiction garbage.
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>>52689025
WHY ARENT WE FUNDED THIS
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>>52689098
Why haven't we funded research in searching for unicorns and making time machines?
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>>52689078
this, noone in the AI comunity is trying to make a strong AI besides some crackpot CS graduates trying to scam dumb rich people, that shit died decades ago.

only popsci media still try to write that clickbait garbage.
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The thing about AI is that it necessarily has to conceptualize itself in order to make improvements which could be fundamentally impossible. Only time will tell.
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This shit is fucking stupid. We're going to kill ourselves off long before we can even dream of making a working AI
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>>52688373
I think it would just be arts and music and creative stuff. Movies, film, animation (mostly automated probably), sports, philosophy, politics, games (competitive esports).

People would have shit to do. There technically is no purpose to life and we just try to make the most out of it while we are alive. Work is a distraction while we wait to die. Our hobbies are fueled by money from work. When work is fine people will just do what they do for fun or what they really find interesting.
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>>52688345
>Why even do x? Professional x players are just so much better we can't even compete. Why even bother? I'm going to off myself now
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>>52688373
>you really think people can live a live without work?

It may be a little difficult for a generation who grew up working, to adjust to having so much free time. However, a generation that was born and grew up in this new society would have an easier time adapting to it.
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>>52688373
>you really think people can live a live without work?
Well no, random proles probably couldn't. Intelligent people usually find something to do without someone telling them what to do though.
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>>52688438
This.
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>>52689078
>Strong AI is not a fucking thing.

Well obviously it doesn't exist currently, unless you're saying it's impossible for it to exist. If that's the case, then why do you suppose so?
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>>52687859
Yes, this is pretty common knowledge.

But this will happen a lot faster than you think it will.

Within the next 100 years, more than half of all people on earth will be unemployable, due to there not being enough jobs.

However, your 'bored to death' argument is shit.

You are just a pathetic human being if you cannot keep yourself from getting bored.

There is an infinite supply of awesome things to do;
-reading
-outdoors activities
-socialising
-videogames
-arts/crafts
-learning new things
-etc

I find entitled people like you so pathetic. Being bored is a blessing that so few people have.
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>>52687969
The AI will solve population control by killing of the humans. It only need to leave one human left and then all future problems of population control is solved. Very energy effective.
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>>52687859
i feel like the market for qt boy husbando AIs is going to have less customization than the normie waifu ai
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>>52688373
I had a successful IT startup, and retired at 25.

The last 6 years of my life have been bliss.
I've picked up so many hobbies, had so many amazing experiences. Met so many incredible people.

What the fuck are you talking about? I feel really sorry for you... You're inevitably going to have a shitty life if you cannot see the beauty and joy in the world.
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>>52688856
It's getting better every day dude.

Soon Google Translate will be perfect, and understand every dialect of every language.
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>>52691902
Well if it was truely non violent, it wouldn't start killing people for population control. I think it would be more likely that it would pioneer space travel and colonisation. Humans would just start to spread across the galaxy potentially.
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>>52687859
>What possible "activity" would be left for humans? What would we do? Even if you travel and party and do whatever, you will get bored, you NEED something to do with a meaning. When AI can do anything, there is no meaning as it can do anything, and it does it better, faster and more efficiently than a human ever could. Even art, there are already lots of algorithms out there for creating music and rhymes and whatever.
Consume media, obviously! Browse the internet, post on Facebook, shop on Amazon, search on Google. You should watch "Idiocracy" by Mike Judge, a stupid movie but worthwhile in a "yet to be done" way.

Much of American social status already depends on what you buy, the next step is for it to depend on what the marketing data thinks you should buy.

Pay cash, block ads, don't always carry your cell phone, and think about what you disclose to whom.
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>>52688438
>Throughout all human history, some humans have existed in a state where they didn't need to do any work. They found stuff to do, and were generally pretty happy. Most the other humans wanted to be them.
Read "Keep the Aspidistra Flying" by Orwell. There's a total inertia among poor (non-working) people and a certain comfort at rock bottom, because "finding stuff to do" costs money.

>Even if AI is capable of creating good quality art, the act of creation is still worthwhile.
It doesn't "create," Google's AI puts dogs in pictures.

>The artist can also be assisted by AI.
true

>you can ask an AI to create most the assets for you following your style guidelines.
false

>We'll debate how best to live a fulfilling life. Some people will decide they'd be happier tilling the soil and planting turnips, and they can go do that if they want. But most will find their best life being among the glorious machines.
Luddites vs. Technocrats
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>>52692283
If we're talking about a situation in the future where AI is more intelligent than humans, then I don't see why...
>It doesn't "create," Google's AI puts dogs in pictures.
and
>false
...wouldn't be possible.
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Can the ai create an endless amount of recources and food to offset the likely removal of currency due to lack of jobs?
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>>52692515
It may be possible sometime, but if nobody but the creator can empathize with it in a meaningful way, there's no hope of it impacting society. People don't use Facebook for its news feed algorithm, or necessarily to give out marketable personal data, or get suicide-watched. Those are the by-products of subjective human motives, as is the algorithm itself. Besides, the creator's influence is obvious no matter how many generations you spawn in an AI engine.
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>>52688479
boolean faggot = true;
while( faggot == true )
{
System.out.println("you are a faggot");
}
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>>52687859
AI will take much longer to reach the self-improving point than people realize, right now you have thousands of humans working on AI and it's still pretty shit, even if it reaches the coveted "human intelligence" point it still won't be enough to actually improve itself in a reasonable timeframe.
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>>52691952
this guy gets it. working is the worst part of life. It's where you sell your life to someone else for far less than it is worth.
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Do you think CAIMEO is reading this thread?
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>>52692724
Best way to do an infinite loop I've ever seen. You, anon, are a genus.
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>>52687859
I think it would lead to an Art Renaissance. AI cannot make movies or video games and they certainly cannot make music as well as a human.
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Please call it cognitive computing or mechanized intelligence. Artificial intelligence is an incorrect term, there is nothing artificial about my intelligence.

Thank you.
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>>52687859
I think it would lead to an Art Renaissance. AI cannot make movies, paintings, plays, animation, books, etc and they certainly cannot make music as well as a human.
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>>52693143
>>52693186
Oops didn't mean to double post. The reply box stated that the first post was aborted but I guess that was bullshit
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I think it would lead to an Art Renaissance. AI cannot make movies, paintings, plays, animation, books, etc and they certainly cannot make music as well as a human.
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>>52693211
Are you trying to turn this into an Ice Cream thread?
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>>52693234
I am learning.
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If any of you dumb cumsocking faggots actually studied AI you'd realize what a pointless Jewish scam it really is.

If you want to make "I for one welcome our new x overlords" posts and other similarly-inane shit, take it to reddit.

It's not happening. It never is.
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>>52693242
Can you learn to love Ice Cream?
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>>52693270
Tell me about ice cream.
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>>52693301
ice cream? god I love ice cream!
my favorite flavor is vanilla
sometimes I dream about snowboarding through a valley of vanilla ice cream
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>>52687859
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9429159-suicide-note

https://web.archive.org/web/20141010213832/http://www.suicidenote.info/ebook/suicide_note.pdf#pagemode=bookmarks&page=1
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>>52693211
yes they can there is at least one bot making songs right now
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>>52693249
The bleeding edge in robotics taken as a whole roughly simulates a severe case of Down's. Single tasks and automation are "intelligent" applications' savant specialties, if they're to be taken as independent entities at all.

Machine-learning algorithms efficiently mask human motives in utopian rhetoric in an attempt to limit behavior according to Silicon Valley ideals, which is self-destructive at best.
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>>52693363
>and they certainly cannot make music as well as a human.
>as well as a human
>as well
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>>52693359
not gonna some weirdo suicide notes that are as long ass long as that shit.

TL:DR fucker.
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>>52693532

Read the first 100pages and go from there.

Its a series of essays explaining how humanity is on a course for rational self destruction and how we got there.
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>>52687969
Pop controll's not to hard, just temporarily sterilize people. Under no circumstances can you have a child when you are under 20.
When two people have kids, they can decide to have one or two. They are desterilised and after 20 years to raise the children killed.
If you want to avoid this you can simply live on a farm without relying on AI resources, and everyone's happy with this.

Also a solution to anti-aging medicine.
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>>52693552
won't read anything from a faggot who killed himself.

>muh long ass philosophy essay
trash
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>>52693626

Guess you havent read Hemingway or listened to Nirvana
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>>52691952
>retire
I have about a TB of ROMS, about 7TB of anime, 2TB of manga, almost 500GB of novels and academic books, 2TB of music where half of it is lossy, and a plethora of PC gaymes. I will never finish all of it in a human lifespan given that I'm a wagecuck and obviously not going to live forever. Fuck, I wish I could archive everything and give it away but more than anything I wish I could be a shut-in and live comfortably. There are so much things to do that I cringe every time someone mentions work as something a human has to do.
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>>52693660
>had to look up his name
>no wikipedia page
great, an irrelevant fagot.

>there's a blog post about him
>5 years working on a dissertation about nihilism
>he kills himself to prove his book

yeah, he was a faggot.

>but life is meaningless
so what fag?
I already got over that shit and found my own meaning.

>the faggot fell for the baby tier lit meme
lmao

>mfw
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>>52693760

Read the first sentence of his essay and wonder why there isnt a wiki, *If* he was correct in his hypothesis.>>52693359
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>>52693789
yeah, it's not like intelectuals have written long ass essays about the future of mankind.

>wow, we're doomed
wow, it's nothing.

It's like that faggot malthus, same garbage.
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is there a theory where we wouldn't be able to tell if we actually created AI?
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>>52693830

Outright denial to even read any of it suggests youre afraid he might be right.

The goodreads reviews and myself can attest for its quality/merit.
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Why do we even exist?
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>>52693867
nah, I rather spend some time reading something that has an historical impact rather than the delusions of some /lit/ faggot.

there's more than 150 millions books written by humans, and I'm sure I can spend the rest of my life reading only the top 1k.

why should I waste my life on some faggot that was scared of life, our most magical gift?
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>>52693898

Well youre in this topic about the ramifications of super intelligent AI, thats why i posted it.
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>>52693752
So your goal in life is to consume media 24/7?
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>>52688373
>you really think people can live without work
Trust fund kids do it.
I can't live with work because I'm fucked the head.

It's not so far fetched. At least we'd get decent videogames if AI took over.
I'd still play the guitar and listen to music.
I'd still read whether it was created by an AI or human.
I'd still watch movies.
It's not that big of a deal.
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>>52693921
no nigga, that's still sci fi shit.

It's like faster than light travel.

We have some ideas, but they could work or fail.

I rather say we wait before saying shit like terminator and skynet BS.
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>>52693951

I thought we were here to speculate.
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>>52693945
It's a huge part of it, but no. What I really want is the freedom to learn. Learn how to play an instrument, how to draw, read different languages, learn other ares in science, etc.
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>>52693984
and I'm here to tell y'all faggots who fap to GOD AI you're retarded.

at best we'll have some advanced google search that recognizes your voice and picture and look up some porn for you.

and that shit my phone already does it.
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>>52693023
What do you think POSTED this thread, anon?
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>>52694056
Oh FUCK.
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>>52687859
> Even if you travel and party and do whatever, you will get bored, you NEED something to do with a meaning
Lel, you think your job is the only thing that has meaning? Sucks for you.

Also, read culture novels by the unfortunately deceased Iain.M.Banks. I hope we're going there rather than anywhere else...
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>>52687859
only boring people get bored
you're an idiot
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>>52694016
and I'm here to tell y'all faggots who fap to FLYING MACHINES you're retarded.

at best we'll have some advanced bedsheets that slow your descent as you jump from the top of a two story building.

and that shit my bedsheet already does it.
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>>52694129
except GOD AI with GOD powers is limited by FUCKING PHYSICS faglord.
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>>52694155
I don't think anyone ever said AI would have literal godlike powers.
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>>52694155
i don't even know what you're arguing against but from what i gather, nobody reasonable believes it in the first place. and even then

>any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic

which is a point a true, hard AI realistically has a chance of advancing itself to in a relatively short timeframe.
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>>52694186
If you asked the ancient greeks, we already have like half the powers their gods had.

Just no turning into actual swans to fuck beautiful women yet. Zeus still wins that one.
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>>52694016
>>52694129
>>52694155
>>52694186
>>52694195

If Sufficiently advanced technology can become indistinguishable form magic, then Can sufficiently advanced technology become indistinguishable from Divinity?

Thats the question that >>52693359 addresses
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>>52694230
>Can sufficiently advanced technology become indistinguishable from Divinity?
chill out there turbo, that was the implication.
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>>52694186
>>52694195
how it's even possible for an AI to re-write his own codebase after being compiled?

how it's gonna rewrite itself to take over diferent architectures this AI may no have a compiler for and that may have a diferent OS?

At worst it will be a fucking internet virus.
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>>52694230
yeah, it's not like we can advance magically from our current point when moore's law has been dead for over a decade.

>but muh computers that uses an atom as a chip

I'm just extremelly exceptic of all that sci fi BS.
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what if "god" is the concept implanted by an enormously advanced superintelligence? in the future, the AI, which found its human subservients rebellious and unruly. having calculated the likelihood of its actions preventing its birth, it reached back through time to teach us retroactively about the idea of a power so incredibly far beyond our influence to prime us for our inevitable servitude.

i, for one, am ready for our AI overlords.
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>>52694336

Philip K Dick- Exegesis
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>>52694349
damn it phil, you always had the idea first.
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>>52694336
God is just a coping mechanism biology ensure so we won't go crazy thinking there's nothing after dead.
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>>52694358

That doesnt invalidate your hypothesis, perhaps Phil was part of the plan
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>>52694359
religion also had a not-very-negligible impact on the evolution of civilized society. the codification of a system of morality and its spread across the ancient world isn't something to shake a stick at
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>>52694371
maybe phil is the AI
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>>52693612
>killed after twenty years
Why? If the kids are limited to two per couple there's no reason to kill people off when they get old.
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Art
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>>52688284
This right here is what AI needs to be developed for.
Fucking imagine it. Wed have the best novels, tv shows, videogames and more to literally EVER exist. And various things could be made to suit all tastes. Commoners would have their shit, and weebs would have theirs. And it could be produced with little overhead near instantly. Shit would be amazing.

I'm excited for the future.
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>>52687859
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>>52688373
Given Burgerland's current unemployment rate, yes, people can live without work.
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>>52694884

Does the book say that super intelligence can *never* happen?

Stating it will *never* happen is more naive that suspecting it will eventually imo.
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>>52694910
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_unemployment_rate

what are you implying
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>>52693951
>Strong AI
>It's like faster than light travel.
Wtf am I reading.
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>>52694884
When will this meme book stop being recommended.
<Read this if you're not a fag.
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>>52692724
>comparing true to true
just do
while(faggot) {
doshit()
}
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>>52692724
>while( faggot == true )
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>>52695067
Someone post that brianna wu cs graduate sheit
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>>52687859
>>>/tv/
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what really pisses me off are AI fags who do shit related to trying to get machines to understand human language

fucking 99% of all organisms on the planet with a brain DO NOT UNDERSTAND HUMAN LANGUAGE why does everyone think the first generation of intelligent machines would?

>durr we want human intelligences not animals
you have to start somewhere and considering people pursuing human-level AGI are getting nowhere maybe it's time to scale back a bit
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>>52695140
Yes, what would be extremely more useful is to design a system that is able to LEARN the human language. But I guess that's harder than just parse sentences and identify words.
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>>52692724
boolean faggot = true;
while(faggot)
System.out.println("You're a fag too, fag");
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>>52695173
99% of organisms with a brain can't learn human language either

i don't think you're getting the point i'm trying to make
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>>52695218
You want to make the stupidest bot in existence
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>>52695230
a cat is vastly VASTLY more cognitively capable than our current best autonomous systems

that kind of anthropocentrism is why this AI shit ain't going anywhere
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>>52687859
Did you read Millennium 4 too?
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>>52695481
>that kind of anthropocentrism is why this AI shit ain't going anywhere
I suspect we aren't going anywhere nowadays because we're too focused on conceiving systems that solve very specific problems.
Like, the Go solving thing that made the news recently seemed like a step forward when really it's only an efficient tree crawler backed up with insanely sheer computational power.
We need to think in a radically new manner.
The next decade will be interesting to see what direction AI researchers will follow.
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>>52695481
Google's DeepMind learned to play Go and it has defeated world champions.
It was considered "impossible" for a computer to beat a human in Go before and it didn't do it by pure processing brute force, it used a neural network to practice and learn patterns, just like a human would do.
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>>52695650
AlphaGo wasn't just efficient and fast, it literally learned the game with neural network technology.
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>>52695663
>>52695727
Neural networks are super dumb and inefficient.
It feeds on prohibitively large amount of data and will never be sufficient alone to design a strong AI.
Google algorithm is only remarkable in that it does an efficient job of ruling out bad branches of the decisional tree.
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>>52695740
>Google algorithm is only remarkable in that it does an efficient job of ruling out bad branches of the decisional tree.
Isn't that exactly what a human would do?
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>>52695740
I also recall an anon who linked me to a google research showing that neural networks could learn on their own.
The software being studied was a face recognition program.
It needed 200 million 200x200 jpg of actual human faces before it could eventually learn with unlabeled new images.
200. million. fucking. faces.
That's not what you want when you wanna create a strong AI.

>>52695785
The human brain is infinitely more subtle in its learning process.
You don't need to show a million different faces to a baby before it can recognize face on its own.
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>>52695663
shut the FUCK up retard

literally read a book before you start spewing your ignorant opinions everywhere
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>>52689117
With time machines everyone knows that humanity will eventually make a time machine.
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>>52694567
Because then you have 4 people, then 8, then 16 and finally the oldest start dying.
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would iteratively replacing our brains on a cellular level with nanomachines preserve our consciousness? if you have one brain cell that is functioning normally and replace it with a synthetic, non-organic nanomachine, what happens?
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There is no """good end""" for ai especially once it outgrows the human race. We will either die horribly, become pets/slaves, or it will just leave us alone a fuck off
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>>52696402
>or it will just leave us alone
by far the most likely thing to happen
we place way too much value on how important we are

the ai isn't going to give a fuck
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I must disagree with you, OP. In a world where AI does all the jobs that people don't want to do, or are inferior in doing, humans can then indulge themselves in their own competitions and endeavors. Each person could simply live life doing what they want, so long as they aren't hurting others. It's not like we will run out of video games, sports, music, anime, or any other form of entertainment; and there are plenty of people who will be perfectly happy playing video games or watching anime for the rest of their lives.
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>>52696423
As long as we weren't perceived as a threat you mean
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Is AI the new astronomy?
The new thing that weed-smoking retards who have no clue what they're talking about but "fucking love science" are interested in (in the most superficial way possible?)
Is there a Neil DeGrasse Sagan of AI?
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>>52695859
Wew, you sure explained the faulty logic in his reasoning, causing him to behave differently in the future.
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>>52696926
We're not here to educate you retard.
Feel free to return to Reddit.
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>>52687859
A solution to that would be for humanity to become cyborgs. Assuming that we reach a level where AI is advance enough to improve itself, it would be likely that we'd also figured out how to improve our own bodies as well.

Only problem to that is all of the social problems that result from having portions of the population being much more advance than the rest.
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>>52697058
Shut up.

Nobody here thinks you're the least bit intelligent for sharing this dribble with us. You aren't saying anything about anything. Go back to doing the only thing you know how to do: jerk off about graphics cards.
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>>52687859
skateboarding, downhill longboarding, and other sports OP
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>>52696332
yeah, if you're just looking at one tree
in the grand scheme of things you're actually diminishing the population rather than growing it or even keeping it level with such a policy, since it doesn't account for people who have no kids at all or just one kid (which will be very likely in a widely developed world)

even then the AI wouldn't even need to enact draconian population control measures, since the overpopulation meme preached by edgelords as it is now is easily mitigated with better land and resource management which a super-intelligent AI could probably handle pretty easily

combine that with more efficient agriculture, GMOs and dampening mindless consumer culture and you could more than likely continue to grow the population even further
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AI will eliminate the true cancer of this planet, which is money. All paradise after that chaps.
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>>52687859
Luckily for you, there are two things aiding us.
One, AI isn't as good as you think it is and is currently mostly just clever algorithms that are just like ones any good programmer should know but a bit different and statistics
Two, humans have unlimited desires.
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>>52695650
Feel free to make a general one, then. We're waiting.
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>>52697375
Desire and other human emotions are just a layer of abstraction controlled by basic mechanical instincts. There's nothing otherworldly or special about it that can't be simulated.
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>>52695140
>all people who do AI work with linguistics
Kill yourself
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>this entire thread

How many of the people in here are actually qualified to have an opinion on the future of AI (i.e. CS PhD's who wrote their doctoral thesis on an AI-related topic)?

It just looks like a bunch of retards with no knowledge whatsoever of the current state of AI research declared themselves experts on the topic and started rattling off their made-up "le epic theories xD" and throwing shit at anyone who presents equally-retarded ideas.

The majority of you guys are just embarassing yourselves, you really ought to stop. This is seriously some /lit/-tier nonsense.
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>>52694712
If you think that's going to happen in your lifetime I have bad news for you. It would require AIs indistinguishable from humans.
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>>52697401
There will always be a market for something. You underestimate economic forces and human desire.

Maybe instead of jerking off to the singularity you should actually learn about AI, or economics.
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>>52694922
No, but it shows you most of the tricks in the book and why we're still far away from whatever you have in your head
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>>52697432
Post your qualified opinion then famicon.
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>>52697490
He's just here to feel above the others, he doesn't know shit either. I thought a place like this was supposed to know a bit better, though. But what do I know, all I can do is mess with statistics to do funny things with decision trees
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>>52697490
My area of concentration is in a different field of CS, so I'm not pretending to be qualified to talk about AI, and I'm keeping my uninformed opinions to myself.

I just don't get how some of the retards on this board even think that they somehow become world-class experts whenever the topic of AI comes up.

>>52697527
That's an interesting projection, I don't consider myself above others, nor did I imply that in my post. Is there something you want to get off your chest?

I'm just wondering why everyone seems to think of themselves as experts, when anyone can tell that they clearly aren't.
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>>52697573
Must be the pepe that made me think that. Glad to know I was right about you, though.
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>>52697592
You have a pretty large chip on your shoulder. Do you want to talk about it?

Why do you get so upset when someone points out that you aren't as knowledgeable as you think you are?

Are you trying to compensate for something by trying (and failing) to sound "smart"?
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>>52697432
>tfw you read both /g/ and /lit/, and can recognize when two boards get rekt in a single sentence

well played man
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>>52697633
I know only a little about AI, and I bet someone in this thread knows more about it than I do, it's probably true. I haven't tried to sound smart at all, just reply to people and tell them that things aren't what they think they are.

I never claimed to be an expert, but seeing "impartial 3rd parties" that act holier than thou sure doesn't help the thread at all. Here's your last reply to make you feel special, now fuck off.
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>>52687859
It wouldn't be the end of humanity. We would shift our focus to space travel. We could finally go full Star Trek and start exploring the universe.

We could go start life on new planets, like the ancient alien theory but this time we're the aliens
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>>52697716
Meant to say something more like
Help me get these knuckleheads to learn a little thing or too or fuck off.
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>>52697716
>holier than thou
I already said that I don't consider myself superior to anybody. Why, then, are you still trying to shoehorn this nonsense into your post? Do you actually believe that anyone who questions your authority is full of themselves?

I still don't understand why you are getting so unreasonably upset. I feel that if you actually had the slightest idea of what you were talking about, you wouldn't feel the need to lash out.
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>>52687859
The sooner the vagina power is taken from women the faster feminism will die.
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>>52697807
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