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Why isn't the trackball meme gaining as much traction as the mechanical keyboard meme?

They are also much cheaper to fall for, since a good one is $60 while a good mkb is at least $150
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DJ khaled fell for the trackball meme
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>>52684539
>no scrollwheel
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>>52684539
They're pretty good for production a lot of desks have built-in ones. It's because there isn't enough space for a mouse on some of them
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>>52684404
My guess is there's a lot more variety with mechanical keyboards for people to customize and show off.
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>>52684404
All the best trackballs are no longer produced.
I think we'll have to wait until the next generation starts getting RSI and the media make a huge scare out of it before we'll see any rise in trackball popularity.
Also, woot.com had kensington expert on sale for $39 twice in a row and probably will have it again pretty soon, so it's even less than $60 for a good trackball.
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>>52684559
honestly /comfy/est trackball ive used >>52684404
and honestly it's probably because they cant market it to the gaymen people
mechanical keyboards can be sold with all kinds of rice lights, but trackballs are useless for gaming

that said, i do really like them for web browsing etc
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I want the old ergonomic trackball designs back
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>>52684620
is a wrist rest almost mandatory for that one?

I bet it gets really uncomfortable very fast with the ball raised like that, without wrist rest
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>>52684639
>trackballs are useless for gaming
some people manage fine enough.
I know this guy uses a thumb trackball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LO1NU_4rKE
But you're right, trackballs are a lot harder to market than mechanical keyboards/
Gaymen will prefer mice and casuals do not care and, unless they have a medical condition, will pick the cheapest and/or default option.
The good thing is, as of late the "default" option is often the Apple® Magic Mouse™ so a lot of people WILL have a medical condition in a few years.
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>>52684658
if your chair has arm rests at desk height, then no, you don't need a wrist rest.
If it doesn't then a wrist rest is pretty much mandatory - you'd have to hover your hand above the trackball when not in use.
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>>52684680
i might try it one day, it would be an interesting change of pace

until they get popular again, i'll stick with old ones, theyre arent bad just beacause theyre old
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yes
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>>52684779
>mfw I have that ikea lamp
holy this these fuckers are HUGE
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>get trackball for dat dere comfort
>stretch arm like a mothefucker
>leave desk half empty anyway
>use rsi inducing apple keyboard
wow
gg no re amazon
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pic related is cheap and looks comfy but how the fuck would you scroll with such a thing?
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>>52685253
>how the fuck would you scroll with such a thing?

left+right click = middle click = that autoscroll thing
then you use the ball

quite cumbersome if you ask me, but works left and right as well
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>>52685268
So I'd have to tweak to emulate a middle click and use it to scroll.

Now that I think, I use the middle click quite often. I guess trackballs are not for me, at least the cheap ones.
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>>52685268
>left+right click = middle click
or just set one of the useless tiny buttons to middle click and the other one to scrolling lock.
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>>52685378
hard as fuck to reach

at least according to youtube
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>>52684404
mechanical keyboards are actually meme tier
trackballs are actually god tier
>i own an expert mouse and it's perfect
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>>52685392
the left one (assuming you're right-handed) is quite easy to reach. The right one is hard as fuck
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anyway I'm reading on amazon that these logitech trackballs have 1 year of life before the mouse buttons start shitting themselves.
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>>52685485
Thats every mouse nowadays
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>>52685534
>Thats every mouse nowadays
which is why I now only use $5 mice.
they are all the same and I don't game.

anyway, thoughts about vertical mice?
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>>52684539
i don't understand that trackballs allow you to not have to have a lot of space on your desk: the post
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Posting endgame
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>>52685584
i have a trackball and a trackpad. the pad is just for gestures and scrolling. it's a godly combo.
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>>52685548
I've tried several and, while they're not really ,y thing, I've found the cheapest chinese one to be the most comfortable. (It's sold under different names, around $5-10 with shipping on aliexpress)
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This and Microsoft trackball explorer
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>>52685964
I heard these japanese elecoms were full of defects?
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>>52686063
just bad QC.
You can get a perfect one or you can get a not-so-perfect one and will have to exchange it.
It's getting better with each new generation though, they're getting their shit together.
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>>52686063
Bought it on Amazon, no problems yet
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Wish these were a bit better built. I'm on my second.. After about a year the scroll wheel middle click becomes really temperamental. I used it a lot for manipulating 3D models in Solidworks. The rest of the mouse is fine however but the dodgy scroll wheels a deal breaker for me.

Annoyingly the 12 year old at least (the mouse was second hand to me) beat up logitech trackball I use in work thats been dropped, had coffee spilt on it, is literally the colour of shit from years of my grimey palm is still working flawlessly. Only bad thing is it melts through batteries like a whore.
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CST master race
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>>52684539
I have a (piano)keyboard workstation and a trackball works perfectly for it because there isn't enough room to move around a normal mouse.

obviously thats why dj khaled uses it too
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>>52685253
I use 3rd party software to fix scrolling.
its called Marble Mouse Scroll Wheel
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>>52686156
Same here, the switches went bananas after a year, it was firmware related and the logitech support is useless.
I bought a kensington now but it's not the same, left click with your thumb and manipulate the ball with you index fingers and no third button, modeling with this is pain.
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I would try to play some csgo with it. What's one that tracks the best?
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>>52687124
elecom m-xt3urbk with the default ball swapped for the blue one from Logitech M570
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>>52687635
so you need to buy two devices?
that's expensive
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>>52686156
I wonder why that is (I haven't done any research on the differences, only stumbled upon this thread). I have a super old logitech wireless laptop mouse. It's lasted since 2002, I've never had a single problem with double-clicking, bad scrolling, anything of the sort. It's discoloured to all hell now, but it works like a champ. LIke you said, the downside is that I'm spending way too much on batteries.

I've considered getting that new Logitech MX Master, but it sounds like Amazon's going through hell because of those. They even stopped selling them for a while because of all of the defects they had. Logitech must be cheaping out on the switches or something, every new logitech mouse that I buy lasts barely a single year, which isn't great considering the price. I think this laptop mouse cost me something like 20 or 30 bucks, yet it's outlasted many near-hundred dollar mice that I've purchased.

None of my old Kensington trackballs have had any problems, but I haven't pulled them out of the closet in a while, so I couldn't say how they compare quality-wise.

If I were only looking for a mouse that's going to last, without question, which mouse would you guys recommend? I don't game, I don't mind if it's wireless, as long as it has a charger (can't stand rechargeable AA/AAAs anymore), and I'd like it to have a simple scroll ring if it's a trackball. Ideally it would have back/forward buttons, but that's really the only additional function I need from it.
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>>52688392
M570 itself is fine and many people use it for gaming.
The elecom has more buttons and better DPI but poor quality control, so their default black ball often doesn't roll smoothly and/or has problems with tracking.
But the elecom only when you already have an old M570 that stopped working. That's what most people who used trackballs for years are doing
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>>52689737
I don't want to pay $60 for mouse that will shit itself in a year.
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>>52689795
I paid $20 for my M570 and I've had it for 3 years
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>>52689852
Well it's 57€ on amazon and similar sites, also i think finger trackballs are easier to use than thumb? Or am i wrong
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>>52689883
I got it for $20 on amazon. (+$10 shipping to yurop)
Personally I prefer finger trackballs as I think they offer more precision - and I use a slimblade on my desktop, but I keep the M570 in a laptop bag, as it's a lot more portable.
If you're used to playing games on a gamepad, then a thumb trackball might be a bit more comfortable - your thumbs are already used to fast movements and you click with your fingers like on a normal mouse. If your thumbs aren't very dexterous (like mine) then a finger trackball will be probably more comfortable, but for the first few days you'll fight your muscle memory - because on finger balls you click with your thumb.
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>>52685548

>vertical mouse

You still need to move your wrist.

>>52685584

>trackpads

No thanks.

>>52686156

That mouse would be mouse to beat, were it not for the cheap parts Logitech used on that model.

I've been happy with my Elecom EX-G, one year and counting.
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Posting my trackball keyboard.
I use it for my htpc.
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>>52684680
i used a M570 for FPSes for a while.

in games like Battlefield/CoD/TF2 i was able to hold my own, but it felt kinda like using a controller since i was limited to my sensitivity and how fast i could move my thumb.

That being said, i've seen quite a few old CS/Quake/UT players absolutely dominate with OG trackballs back in the day, but i'm sure it takes way more practice to get good with them than a traditional mouse.
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>>52684404
Will trackballs be the /g/ meme of 2016?
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>>52686063
I have the OG one that's supposed to be bad M-XT1 I think? And I've had absolutely no problems with it other than to clean it every week or so.
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>>52692169
Where have you been in 2015?
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>>52692459
Not using a trackball mouse from the looks of it.
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>>52684779
I've got the top right
And I have an old serial version of the 4 button expert mouse
I honestly will never use a mouse again
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I'm always thinking about what cool mouse I should get next when my old one breaks down.
But I have one of these so it will take atleast another 10 years until I get a new one.

Sorry guys I can't join the memes.
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>>52684620
Damn you have the picture setup there
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>>52691663
gay
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how is eye tracking tech? I figured in a few years we'd be able to move the mouse around to wherever we wanted
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I like my trackball but I need to pop the ball out and clean the little balls too often.
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