I just bought pic related a few days ago and holy fuck it feels so good to finally have a grown up phone again.
No more fat fingering soft keys while smudging up my screen, no more meme devices that only differentiate themselves with thumbprint readers, 3d touch, and other garbage "features", and no more having to root and sideload neckbeard roms just to get rid of touch wiz.
This is the return of physical keyboards. It's about fucking time!
What was the last smartphone that had a physical keyboard after the Droid phones? Besides phones that were exclusive to Japan, I can't think of any. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just haven't seen nearly as many physical keyboards on flagship devices in recent memory.
>buying a RIM phone
Jesus, op, buy the only decent phone out right now (Samsung galaxy) and just get the physical keyboard accessory if you're really so shit at typing.
The Droid phones were so good, I loved my original Droid, but they stopped making them, then Google hollowed out Motorola. I think you'd like the priv if you liked the Droid. The physical keyboard doubles as a touch surface for gestures (swipe left erases word, down for alt symbols, double tap to enter cursor mode and drag in any direction to place cursor, etc) it also runs android now so no more app gap.
I assume there are localized versions of it but idk for sure.
There's no way that's real.
too expensive for me, and i don't like phisical keyboards, but other than this it actually look amazing, and specs are not bad at all. plus it is elegant looking as fucking in a jacuzzi
Does anyone know if this phone is selling well compared to RIM's other BlackBerry handsets? I'd love to see RIM getting back on their feet again. Modern cellphones have become extremely bland in the past decade. Everything wants to be the next best knock-off iPhone, even though the new iPhones are uninspired pieces of utter shit.
i'm in the market for a new phone and the Priv looks the most appealing to me by a mile, BUT does it have an IR blaster?
i use the IR blaster on my M8 every single day so it's an important feature for me
I'm considering getting it when Sprint offers them.
I want to use the physical keyboard to play DS games.
The keyboard is sturdy right?
sliders are gay, and the only reason i havent bought a bb classic is im not sure if i like that the keyboard rows are straight lines instead of curved like they used to be.
but if the classic ran android i would buy it regardless.
their last earnings report only covered the first couple weeks of priv sales but they just announced the total number of devices sold. that total number was very low but John Chen has been making very optimistic statements lately on the priv sales. he also talked about a second android phone and speculated that if enough android bb phones were sold, they could make a new BB10 device.
>and speculated that if enough android bb phones were sold, they could make a new BB10 device.
I know this is bullshit, but i want to believe it.
he is just trying to rev up hype among bb purists who don't want to buy the priv and stay with the passport. he tries to imply that "you want BB10? here android, fuck you; first buy this one to get a new BB10"
I won't be buying Chen's overprice android, I am a fan on BB10 not BlackBerry. Still it's kinda fucked up how they threw their hardcore fans under the bus like that just to become another Google OEM.
Well to be fair to Chang, he kind of had to make the switch. BB10 wasn't going anywhere, and Investors/main consumers were begging for an Android BB.
Kind of unfortunate that a lot of smaller OSs aren't realizing they really need to stop fragmenting themselves and just stick behind one.
>Investors/main consumers were begging for an Android BB.
>a company that's suppose to be all about mobile security
>ditches in house OS and switch to the least secure OS available
>an OS known to be overly intrusive
>an OS that on one company make a profit from and only by flooding the market with variants
I hope they enjoy their money
Now you know the mind of an investor - the drive towards money at any cost, even if it means losing everything else.
I did enjoy how they basically whipped the market into believing the priv could actually 'secure' android.
It's called BB10 because they couldn't use BBX with the X being from QNX, it has nothing to do with the BBOS series which was built using Java. Calling it BBOS 10 is wrong, and you really shouldn't be so proud to sound like a fucking idiot on a Mongolian tapestry board.
Form factor. Easier to decrease size when the battery is integrated with and around the hardware. If this truely has to be the case is another factor as there are some pretty thin, stand-alone batteries.
Exactly, Chen knows what he's doing, he is a turn around expert after all. Unfortunately that means BB will end up like all his other turnarounds, i.e. sold to the highest bidder once profitable again.
Small one: the bloody calculator is upside-down from the buttons you need to press on the keyboard.
Big one: there is no cursor, despite cursors being a superior method of interacting with media.
There are countless groups that could band together and actually work on BB10 to fix it up, while BB maintains """""security""""" rights. Unfortunately, won't happen. These same groups have too much pride in their own OS.
So many little things too, like the inability to swipe from your hub to the home screen/apps screens through the physical keyboard, even though you can swipe through the rest of your screens with it just fine. Things like not being able to opt for more detailed volume controls upon pressing them.
The whole amazon situation is also a mess, there's no reason for it to be a completely separate app, one that runs shit might I add.
>The whole amazon situation is also a mess, there's no reason for it to be a completely separate app, one that runs shit might I add.
Honestly when I heard that Chen struck a deal with Amazon I was expect a much tighter integration with BB10, especially since Amazon already had some experience in the mobile from Fire Phone. Sadly, all it did was give us a port of their app store and put the final nail in BB10 native development.
BB10 users got slapped in the face, TWICE.
1. Amazon AppStore is completely separate, at least a fucking webpage on the BB World app would have been a step up.
2. The Amazon web marketplace is also a separate app, mandatory.
Seriously, the partnership between amazon and blackberry must have been made by two retarded interns at both companies.
>brb, trying to connect to a strongly-secured VPN
BB10 is where the playbook was in 2012-2013
Amazon exists to fuck around with new technologies. They half ass most of their ventures, even their main e-commerce business.
I've got one, its a pleasure to use. Wouldn't trade it for the world.
They are indeed financed in this way. People still pay full retail price at launch through this financing, but gives them a longer period to accumulate this wealth.
>They half ass most of their ventures, even their main e-commerce business.
And it shows, even a shitty chink e-commerce site started by a starving chink is somehow outpacing amazon.
>oh noes noone will ever buy a $700 phone
Alibaba is a success for similar reasons, aided by the fact that they made themselves the gatekeepers and have been successfully dragging Chinese business into the present. They've mostly done the same experimentation but had a role model to help them out.
Sad but true. They can't even afford to maintain their lives Facebook app. A single SE Asian dev had to pick up their slack.
apple won't fall that fast, but they indeed reached their saturation point and will face some downfall. Speculators gonna speculate about apple's downfall all day errday. blackberry can sell a phone or two and reach a sustainable point in terms of hardware while microsoft continues to release lumia shit.
things won't change for microsoft unless they make the surface phone which might be a huge unexpected success.
I wish I could but in Wyoming my options are Verizon or AT&T. From my testing AT&T has about 75-80% of the coverage and 1/3 the speed of Verizon where I live so I can't say they are really an option for me.
I am trying to decide between this and surface phone or whatever Microsoft does where Window 10 mobile os is fixed by fall hopefully.
The only thing with this phone is it could easily be lagdroid like my m8 is with lollipop.
>friend bought blackberry priv
>he uses touchscreen keyboard all the time
>ask him why he doesn't just use the physical keyboard
>"i want to, but it's just quicker to type on screen than to slide the thing out and two hand it"
WHY EVEN BUY IT HOLY SHIT
>not buying a superior form factor
>not enjoying android apps at the same time
Japanese, import only, can be sim-unlocked. Called the SH-06G. You'll want to check the bands it supports, since (in the U.S., at least) 4G only works with AT&T. Doesn't have the google play store, but apps can be manually installed by hooking it to your computer.
This site has pretty much any jap import phone you could want, flip phones included. Non-Jap android flip phones are the LG Gentle/Wine Smart, and the Samsung Galaxy Golden. Those can't be found on the site.
>enjoy you're 21gb soft cap faggot
No thanks. Not even the person you replied to, but I'm on Sprint, which also has a soft cap, but it's based by tower. After 21gb you'd be flat throttled for the month. After 23gb I'm throttled ONLY if there's low usage customers on my tower currently using data, and every 5ms it prioritizes. Been tethering and using upwards of 300GB/month without ever being throttled.
At least it doesn't use Google services framework, so that's one less hole. The priv is about as secure as the kindle fire Android fork which hasn't had many issues (in fact, the security is so good that you literally have to nuke a whole partition to get it to panic and allow you fastboot access as a repair method, then you can actually flash a new bootloader and flash new ROMs and root it)
>Dat ultimate /g/ phone