/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

1st for T601F master-race

This might sound retarded but is there any way to bypass the onboard flashchip that loads boot firmware with an external flash chip??

Is there a release date for the 460s?

>>52676864
Why? you can flash libreboot/coreboot on to certain models if you're a freetard

>>52676892
Probably within the next month

>>52676864
Not trivially. You should go read up on "the stateless laptop". It'll likely amuse you, given your question.

>>52676888
please share since there are about 10,000 chinks on 51nb that would make you their god if you found one

>>52676961
Why? you can flash libreboot/coreboot on to certain models
Yes, I know. I was wondering if you could have libreboot on one flash chip and the original bios on another.
>>52676972
Will look at it now. Don't know too much about the topic.

>>52677021
Probably not without some level of hardware hacking

>>52677032
Interesting. Will do some research and try it if I reach a solution

I'm currently using a t420 and my god, why is the screen such shite? it's too fucking bright

What's the deal with the "trackpad stickers"? Is that really how these things work? The trackpad stays, but you replace the sticker?

I have that not-so-fresh feeling with my current keyboard and trackpad (T420).

>>52677053
it would be way easier just to reflash the chip than try and put a socket in

>>52676820
is this alright? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T420-i5-2520M-4G-320G-WIFI-DVDRW-14-LED-Win-7-Pro-/201410556617?hash=item2ee50132c9:g:0gsAAOSwu4BVp0~t

>>52677108
I'm sure. Was just wondering if there was ever an attempt made at separate flash chips. It doesn't seem ideal but still...

>>52677125

I don't know about Aussiebucks, but that same machine could be found in the US for $150 - $170.

>>52677105
yes, get the one with the yellow backing, they are higher qaulity

Can the X220 hold an SSD and a hardrive?
I'm looking to upgrade from my T410 but I'm not buying it if I'm going to see a downgrade in storage

>>52677125
it will probably be 1366x768, which is borderline torture

if you have an external monitor nbd

>>52677213
msata ssd will be limited to sata 2 speeds

I'm the guy in the last thread who got sent the wrong thinkpad and was waiting for my money to come back. Now it's back, and I can afford to look into getting one again.

I have a couple questions.

Regarding things such as processor. Is an i7 a must?

I compile everything from source, and would prefer not to wait a year when compiling kernel.

It just seems like a full specd T420 with a 1600x900 screen is rare to find.

I'd like to have good battery life, I heard the x series is good for that, but then I also heard that their screens can suffer from ghosting. Also, it seems as though every model with an IPS screen is the tablet version.

Are there not ones with an IPS screen that are not tablets? Or do you have to modify that yourself?

Bonus question.

If I were to go beyond the x220 and the t420 series to 30 or 40, are they decent? Do they have any problems other than the newer keyboards?

>>52677155
Yea that matches up, can you see any problems with it? I don't really know what im meant to be looking for

>>52677225
I'm okay with that, SATA-II speeds on an SSD are still around 200-300mb/s write/read speeds

>>52677227
T440p + 1080p IPS + trackpad mod, you now have the best modern thinkpad

T430 has the shit layout and feel. T440p has a shit layout but the best feel since the T6x.

>>52677227
>compiles everything from source
>worried about battery life

>>52677244

I don't see the screen resolution. It's either 1366x768 or 1600x900. Both are bad TFT screens, but I think 1366x768 would be horrible.

I'm not sure about the processors, but I think that might be the lower one? I thought there was a T420 with a 2540 or something like that. Not that it matters, since the non-S model T420 CPUs can be upgraded.

BTW, my 1600x900 T420 was $159 or so *shipped*.

>>52677299
>T440p
>best thinkpad
It doesn't even have physical trackpoint buttons

>>52677086

So turn it down, you idiot.

>>52677202

I guess my last attempt at a reply failed, so: thanks.

>>52677353
>he didn't swap in the t450 trackpad

>>52677353
>T440p + 1080p IPS + trackpad mod
>trackpad mod

>>52677301
I wouldn't be compiling everything from source while out and about (not connected to a power supply).

Unless you are implying that the batterys long term health in general will be effected negatively from compiling. That wouldn't be a major issue though, would it? I mean I can imagine it will have an impact on the long term health, but it wouldn't be serious enough to warrant any concern, right?

>>52677299
That sounds pretty nice actually. What do you reckon would be a good price for that in total?

>>52677227
If you have a higher-powered workstation, you could set things up so all the compiling occurs there instead of on the laptop. Lets you not worry over getting a strong CPU that would otherwise be unnecessary.

>>52677547
Unfortunately, I don't. I just have a second hand generic Lenovo laptop with some decentish specs

>>52677592
you could also rent a vps

If I were you I'd get a T420 and swap in a quad core and new thermal paste and get a 9-cell battery

The TrackPoint is hard to control accurately. Does it get easier?

>>52677644
You can turn down the sensitivity in options

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Any idea what model this is?

>>52677644
>Does it get easier?
Yes. Practice makes perfect and so on and so forth.

>>52677685
T440. AKA shit

>>52677685
T440. That touchpad is shit.

>>52677644
it was so easy for me, much more natural than using touchpad

>>52677759
I have an x200, I use the trackpoint anyways

Which one?
T500
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JT26RAW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AJTJ4Z0M176OO

T420
http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16834319464&cm_re=ThinkPad-_-34-319-464-_-Product

>>52677685
Yep, its the FagPad

>>52677800
>I use the trackpoint anyways

A lot of us do. Which is why we think that pad is garbage. There are no physical trackpoint oriented buttons.

>>52678101
Well, shit.

>>52676812
>Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/

I got a Tecra M11 for $120. Did I get a good deal?

2.67GHz 2 cores 4 threads i5
4GB 1066MHz DDR3
320GB 7200rpm HDD
14.1" 1600x900 screen
Intel HD Integrated Graphics

Also does anybody know anything about how easy it is to get Linux or OpenBSD running on this laptop? How about VT-d PCI passthrough support? From what I can tell it has a QM57 express mobile chipset. According to Intel that chipset supports VT-d and so does the processor. Does that automatically mean I can do VT-d or does the manufacturer's BIOS have to support it? I can't find any specific information on the Tecra M11's VT-d support.

>>52678448
y? a change to a t450/x250 touchpad is only $32 away

>>52678584
Not bad, but its not as solidly built as a thinkpad
Still for $120 american its a pretty good deal

It's easy to upgrade ram on t hinkpds right?

What ram would I get for a T420?I have 4gb now but I would not mind 8gb

Recommend me some CAD software I can use on a x200 running linux

>>52677888
T500. The T420 is crap

>T61
>fan has death rattle
>remove old fan
>replace with brand new fan
>fan error
FML

Probably put it in a bind somewhere in there. Gotta take it all back apart.

>>52678940
Would I be able to play SC2 on low settings on that Intel HD graphics? How about Rome: Total War? Those are the only two games I own and I only ask because they are old.

>>52679017
I guess it matters what kind of design you're doing. Right now I'm designing a set of FIR filters to put on a FPGA using GNU Octave. It's supposed to be pretty close to MATLAB. I can't comment on MATLAB compatibility but I can say it is very easy to learn and has no problem handling about a GB worth of data at a time. There's a 64 bit index option you can compile it with to increase that.

Eagle printed circuit board CAD software runs on Linux as well.

>>52678965
Crucial 4gb, get the cheapest option that's a single stick
Just take out the battery, unscrew the panel on the back and insert the extra board into the bracket

>>52679201
That is shit luck man. Glad that stuff rarely happens to me. I just bought my first thinkpad and it was a refurb form good ebay seller. been happy with everything

>>52679229
Yeah that's what I saw. I have 4g now. maybe they are 2x2gb's not sure I'll check. thanks for info.but yeah it seems like crucial are the main ones.

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>>52679229Oh BTW. I just checked. I am only using one free slot which means I can just purchase a 4gb. Okay that's cool. I was wondering what you said that heh

>>52679201
Did you connect it? I make that mistake

>>52678584
Nice dealni think
Dunno what that machine looks like but it sounds good sprc wise. (X

>>52676848
Nice! Show pics plz.


So I'm doing the IPS mod on the T430s. Almost a full teardown, bezel and lid need to be removed.

I'm not that far away from the CPU so its probably best to remove some more screws tongrt tonthr bottom side to apply new thermal paste.

T420 for threefiddy dollaridoos:

i5-2520M @ 2,5Ghz underclocked
8 GB RAM
128GB SSD
Res 1600 x 900
New 9 cell battery

That's a good price, right? Am I getting cucked?

What's the best Thinkpad I can buy with $50?

>>52679341
$USD you're reaching into getting cucked
$AUD you're doing alright

>>52679347
T60 if you're lucky

>>52677685
The shitty one

>>52677754
>>52677759
>>52677977
>>52679394
Why so much disapproval? Is Lenovo not good?

>>52679341
No I just bought one on amazon with same specs except without ssd (but you can buy one for 50 bucks) for only 180. You're getting cucked fag.

>>52679412
That model is hated for a few reasons
>Changed keyboard layout
>No physical trackpoint buttons
>No physical volume controls

>>52679432
He said dollaridoos
He's Aus
Or retarded

>>52679412
https://youtu.be/jb7p3VkQCOo
Entertaining video on why it sucks.

>>52679486
>No physical volume controls
lmao

>>52679525
>using linux
>reads slashdot
He already cucked himself before Lenovo did....

>>52679541
What I meant to say was that there are no discrete buttons for volume control, you have to use function and F1 and F2, which is retarded

>>52679334
>Dunno what that machine looks like
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOSHIBA-TECRA-M11-LAPTOP-i5-2-67GHz-4GB-320GB-DVDRW-WIFI-14-1-Win-7-SP1-/231822990331?hash=item35f9ba1bfb:g:eEMAAOSwYshUZoId

What is a good Thinkpad with USB 3.0 ports?

Uh my think T420 is lenovo.. is lenovo bad now?

>>52679341
I got one for 250 other week

350 gb non ssd
4gb ram
1 gb nividia
1600x900

I wouldn't call it a bad deal man desu.

>>52679863
A good Thinkpad, but with USB 3.0 ports

>>52679412

dont listen to these fags. Are they care about is their t420. Damn poor fags never to get experience luxury.

>>52679950
I am confused. I am not him. but i just got my first thinkpad a t420 and it says lenovo on it lol

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>>52677615
i did that

Amazon AGDA 7800mah 9 cell pulls 6+ hours without dimming the screen

2670QM i7 off ebay for $55 shipped, Arctic Silver
runs like a champ, bought the quad core to help with android studio

PS

Q U A D B O Y S
D A N K L I F E
N O S T R I F E

>>52679964

have fun with that brick. Only good about is that it actually works good to build your jerk off muscle since it weights 9000 pounds. Fucking a t450/s phagget

>>52679993
>QM
>on a laptop
Retard alert

>>52680010

get*

>>52680022
>dualcore pussy detected

>>52680010
hmm no idea. works great for me so far. i don't walk around with it all day. I am inetersted in this 9 cell battery thing though. i shall look into it.

T430 vs. T440 vs. T530 vs. T540?

>>52679993
you put your own cpu in it? how hard is that to do?

>>52680061
if you can do it on a desktop you can do it on a T420. They're very easy to service

>>52680030
Dual core with hyper threading nigger

>>52680076
hmm awesome to hear. i'll look into it.
not sure if very needed though the 2.5 sandy bridge does me well enough and I am using windows 10

>>52680081
that's cute senpai i'm glad it's good enough for you :^)

>>52679993

>muh 850 evo

what a fag

>>52680098
tbqfh smfh imo desu senpai baka

>>52680116
>he fell for the "SSDs are a meme" meme

>>52680169
>he still calls meme's meme's.
baka senpai

What's the difference between T4xx models and T5xx models?

>>52680240
14.1" vs 15.4" screens

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sorry for the inc. blog post
I have an i5 x220t (wacom) with an ips screen, and it's had slight bleed (proper terminology? patches of discoloration easily noticeable on a black screen) for a while, but I recently noticed a burn-in analogue (if I leave something bright on the screen for a while, it'll be briefly faintly visible). there's also a tiny (~2 mm x 1mm) chip in the glass before the screen which I don't think merits response
it doesn't make the computer unusable, but I'd rather replace it now rather than having it gradually degrade further
my questions are:
>have any of you experienced something like this before/replaced your screens, and how did it go, in either respect?
>is http://www.laptopscreen.com/English/model/IBM-Lenovo/THINKPAD~X220~TABLET/ reputable/the best value I'll find (and for that matter, will just replacing the screen solve my screen issues, or are they just symptomatic of something else)
>is it more cost-effective to just stalk ebay for another x220t - or just an x220 - given I got this for ~250 and swapping in my hdd, factoring in likelihood of entirely fucking my computer?

>>52680254
Is the larger screen better?

>>52680169
seriously. first thing i didnt when i got my first thinkpad was take the wd blue hd out lol. and tossed in a brand new ssd. . fuck a computer without an ssd.

>>52680284
it's a different size?
it's going to be different resolution/panel type depending on the generation anyway
look up what's available on thinkwiki, and gauge what you want

>>52680290

yup, never again. the old WD blue is in an hdd caddy in my ultrabay slot

Got a t61 widescreen with a newer nvidia chip, manufactured 09/2008. How much could I resell it on eBay? how much on thinkpad forums?

>>52680283
read the op

Is this a good deal?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3TX39N6551

>/g/ tells me to buy decades old bricktops
http://the-digital-reader.com/2015/01/17/dont-buy-laptop-older-two-years-crazy-ideas/
>actual reviewers suggest to not buy past 2 years

>>52680352
I read the op and have the hardware maintenance manual, I was more interested in the anecdotal shit that'd aggregate here (people having done analogous repairs outside safe conditions, people knowing the vendor/marketplace for replacement screens, etc.)

>>52680383
That's true of consumer grade junk
thinkpads are designed with repair-ability and life span in mind, and most are ex-corporate machines so they have been used in a clean environment and well maintained

Also
>Didn't actually read the article

For T430, does using ddr3l result in observable improved battery life?

>>52680394
That just means you can't think for yourself.

>>52680365
Look at the top critical review. I think buying that would be playing Russian roulette with 5 bullets.

>>52676812
I work at a Business laptop refurb place.

Lately I have been dealing with T410's coming back with fan errors. These were bought from a client who couldn't figure it out. I haven't seen any guides on the wiki but I want to make sure it is said somewhere and I give back to the community in some form.

There is a common fan error that prevents the whole OS from booting. It is worth considering when buying a T410. You open up under the keyboard and unscrew the fan, re-screw it back on. Apparently it is a bug with the screw sending a signal to the board that it is loose. Now is also a good time to also clean out the fan and check that the heatsync is properly seated. Look for signs of deterioration in the heatsync. Put everything back on and you should be set to turn on without a fan error.

Also update your BIOS if you are in a position to do so with your selected OS and bootloader.

>>52680567
>t430

>>52680820
Thanks mate!
There were some people with a similar problem a few days back and their solution was to take the fan out and clean it. Now there is actually a reason behind why this worked.

>>52676812
What's the most modern thinkpad that still has acceptable build quality? X250?

Anyone have experience installing Android x86 on an X220t? Worth it for kicks, or don't bother?

Relatedly, if my X220t is heating up a lot when I do art streams, should I see about reapplying the thermal paste?

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>>52679334
T9500, integrated graphics, 6GB RAM (for now), SXGA+ IPS, SSD, HDD in caddy, FPR, BT, WWAN

Playing around in gqrx-sdr.

I got a thinkpad a while ago and it has an intel graphics card and whenever I use photoshop cs6 for more than a few minutes it crashes. I couldn't find any solutions online so does anyone know how to fix it?

It always says that the display driver has crashed

>>52679233
>>52679334
I fixed it. Had to tweak the metal housing a little to let it spin freely.

Lesson learned, buy genuine.

>>52681175
What model of Thinkpad?

My X220t runs Photoshop CS5 no problem, and that's also hardware accelerated.

Reminder. It's 2016.

All thinkpads that are below the x,t,w, 30 are now deprecated. X220 and t420 should not be recommended in the OP

>>52681206
I got the E550

I could run CS5 without any issues but I'd rather use CS6

>>52681323
Sounds like a problem either with CS6 or the driver specifically, if CS5, which also uses acceleration, crashes while CS6 works fine.

Also obligatory reee at thinkpad edge, etc.

>>52681374
I haven't tried CS5 yet that's just what I read online when I looked for solutions

I've seen a lot of posts about the same problem and theres still no solution :^(

>>52681403
>I could run CS5 without issues
>I haven't tried CS5 yet

Try reinstalling Intel's graphics drivers, if that doesn't work try installing CS5

>>52681425
Well I've used CS5 on a friend's computer but when in my old photography classes we used CS6 and I liked it way more so I'd rather use it even if it makes my computer shit itself sometimes

I'll look into that, if it doesnt work CS5 isn't that shitty

>>52681460
If the drivers work and it works on CS5, you know it's an error with CS6, and you can reinstall CS6 to fix it. If not, it might be some kind of hardware issue, but who knows, because Edge thinkpads are filled with cheap components.

Can someone give me their opinion on the X250? I've read reviews but I'm not convinced.

>Bought W520 and new battery
>1080p, Quadcore, Quadro 2000M, 32GB RAM
>Disabled Turbo Boost
>8+ hours of battery life, temps at 45-50Cº

Feels good man. Definitively not a meme.

>tfw everyone else at my dorm has garbage tier national laptops that are thin and light and have like 3-4 hours tops

>>52681496
I like it. They brought back the good touchpad.

Deploying it to corporate was p. good. Would buy for myself.

>>52681614

If I was a girl I would suck you off if I saw you with that.

>>52680283
>have any of you experienced something like this before/replaced your screens, and how did it go, in either respect?
I've replaced countless T and X series screens along with a few X tablets, always have ordered and replaced the screen and backlight as one unit, along with the X tablets always have ordered the digitizer and screen as one as well. Best part about this is you don't have to worry about gpu/inverter/anything, as long as it fits it will work. There are also countless interchangeable parts between models for example the screen from a T60 will work all the way up to a T500 I believe as long as they're both widescreen. This is that "frankenpad" shit you hear about.

>is http://www.laptopscreen.com/English/model/IBM-Lenovo/THINKPAD~X220~TABLET/ reputable/the best value I'll find (and for that matter, will just replacing the screen solve my screen issues, or are they just symptomatic of something else)
I've always used ebay, business I used to work with used laptopscreen.com, never heard any complaints. Make sure it isn't the graphics card, plug into an external monitor and put it under load with benchmark software. And make sure it isn't the inverter, you'll know this if the screen turns on but is incredibly dark, use a flashlight.

>is it more cost-effective to just stalk ebay for another x220t
Most people on ebay are smart enough to know there's value in part of it by looking up other listings that did the same thing. You could get a screen cheaper than on its own by buying one with a dead motherboard, or bios locked board, I've done this before just to loot it for the screen and it was cheaper than buying the screen itself. Of course this relies 100% on someone else selling a broken one and not knowing what the fuck they have but it can happen

>>52680351
Anyone like to comment?

>>52682225

Search eBay for "completed listings".

>>52682225
C2Ds have fallen in value hard, even if it is the good batch, I stopped reselling C2Ds except locally as facebook machines for cheap alternatives. You will get more attention and more money out of it if you can put a modern windows OS on it for the sale. 7 is still desired by many businesses

>>52681481
Even when I'd use the demo it'd freeze after a few simple actions

I think it's just the hardware or how the drivers work with CS6, at least from what I can tell. It's the only program that does this and causes my computer to crash or restart. I use FL studio a lot cus I'm a pleb and I've had it running for days without anything like that happening so I really don't know what to think. I'll just suck it up and use CS5

> 2016
> 1600x900 pixels

enjoy your peasant tier laptop

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Is the X301 the best form factor ever made?

>perfect screen size of 13.3 inches
>glorious 16:10 aspect ratio, actually good for reading and shitposting
>thin, light (<4 lbs)
>old keyboard
>high build quality

What's not to like?

>>52682451

I have to say, aside from the terrible view angles, I'm not too disappointed with 1600x900.

I'd prefer 1600x1200, but let's face it, that's never coming back. :-(

>>52682559

The thing is, once you've worked on a high-dpi screen for a while, there's no going back. You start to notice how text just looks like ass at 133 dpi.

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I do not recommend carbon fiber wrapping a T430, it comes out ugly in the finer details...
Not even gonna deal with the speakers yet.

>>52682538
It is, too bad it's successor is shit
>sealed in battery
>soldered on ram
>no ultrabay

>>52682538
It is, just got a T430s to be its 'successor', disappointed with the X1C3 overall, I liked the ChromeBook Pixel much better.

>>52682323
I think 1st and 2nd gen Core systems are really cheap.
They are risky to buy and resell right now.

>>52682225
Depends on condition.
TPF will probably pay more than eBay if you're not wishing to be patient, though some forum members might call you out if you're new to the forums/ not transact with ya.
>people are asking $125+ in Sam Diego.

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Hey lads, just got my x201, bout to install Windows 7 with Arch Linux

>>52681148
Wow good shit!

>>52682646
Why thermal paste?

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Company I work for got us the Latitude E5550, it's actually nice rather have ThinkPad though

If I can't afford a X250, should I get a X220 or X230?

>>52683123
read op

>>52683101
Holy shit, clean your screen and never ever touch it again.
You disgusting pig.

>>52683123
I meant to say, they are around the same price over here, not in the US, but I'm not sure if there's some major design differences that I should note.
>>52683128
I read the OP, and the X230 seems good but I'm not completely sure.

>>52683101
>pubic hair all over keyboard and palm rest
god were you born in a barn?

>>52683131
That's the flash ..../ it's touch screen prints happen

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Hi /g/ I bought this thinkpad in a flea market for 10 bucks but as you can see the lower part of the screen come off, should I replace the whole screen? Or the aluminium parts?

>>52683136
>not sure if there's some major design differences that I should note
wow how new are you

please dont verbally abuse me, but for $400 is a dell 15r 7520 in 8.5/10 condition a good deal?

its 1080p, i7 3632qm, 8gb, 7730m. Its a beast but should I buy it?

>>52683149
Very new to thinkpads, sadly.

>>52683146
Just the hinge it seems...
Get the proper hinges (14" or 15") and you should be fine.

>>52683166
>it's a beast
>Inspiron anything
Fuck you, buy it and buy another $400 shittop in a year.

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>>52683168
Your welcome

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How do I even get a ThinkPad in Israel
>mfw

>>52683275
Do you have something more up to date?

>>52683123
>>52683168
>>52683136
X220 vs X230 depends entirely on what you want, they're both good machines.
Go look up the differences, they're very significant.

>>52683292
Just buy one from the local terrorist group.

why recommend all of the T series when the T440s is the most meme unusable touchpad of all time?

>>52683136
>I meant to say, they are around the same price over here, not in the US, but I'm not sure if there's some major design differences that I should note.
they have completely different keyboards
if that's not major what is?

>>52683333
Because we implicitly except anything after *20

>>52683333
Because you're smart enough to figure this out on your own.

>>52683417
I like both, but I think I'll get the X230 just because of the backlit, shame it has less keys.

>>52683522
tke x220 has a keyboard lamp, you don't need backlight

>>52683544
They did think of everything.

>>52683570
Until *30

>>52683584
Is there a cupholder addon for the X220's docking station?

>>52683615
Find a CD drive, and possibly hack it.

>>52683615
>>52683642
Though the HDD Ultrabay thing doubles as a portable drawer if you don't have a drive in it

I store crap like memory cards and flash drives in it, maybe some spare change.

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>>52683325
Honestly, though?
I really need one for school, but I'm not sure on how to get it.
Ebay is apparently not an option, and I don't want to get stuck with a shitty overpriced laptop

>>52682646
Disgusting

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just came in the mail but fuck those temps how can i reduce them?

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I'm trying to run GZDOOM on my t420 (ibtel graphics only) under xubuntu.

Now, these modern sourceports have all sorts of shit for fucking up the textures and blurring sprites (bilinear all the way up to H2QX fuckery), and under Windows I have all that off (except anisotrophic and nearest to mipmap)

I've tried both GZDoom from ppa as well as compiling it natively, but I still get bilinear filtering on enemy sprites and wall textures, even when I have it all disabled.

Is there some xorg shit that I have to do to make sure bilinear texture filtering is off by default?

Also should I be using "tearfree" when I'm already using Compton?

>>52684588
By replacing the thermal paste..

Guys!Guys! Would u recommend to get a cheap x230 and swap the keyboard with the older series or just get the x220?
Switching from Surface Pro 3, 'cause it's easy to break and I can't really repair/upgrade the system.. Oh yeah and throttling fucks me up.
I need good battery perfomance(5hours atleast) and a really good keyboard.The newer models are not worth the price for me.
What u think?

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I have a x220 laptop and I need more disk space.
I can see that I can replace the 3g modem with a m.2 ssd.
What model am I looking for, and how do I find out what it is I am looking for?
I have these options but I don't know what difference and such is.

>>52684768
You're looking for mSATA.
m.2 is not for the connector in the x220.

>>52684791
okay.
So the one with 82 results or would the mini work as well?

>>52684588
oh god when i was watching a youtube video the temps went up to 94 degrees celcius

>>52684819
"mSATA mini" should be a mSATA SSD with half the length.
Just search for the normal ones, it should be safer.

>>52683615
yes.
The docking station is usually places on top of a table or desk which has large surfaces suitable for holding cups.

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Was reading the arstechnica review of the T450s when I saw this. Why didn't they let it bulge out to the back? I don't have books or notepads that fit with that bulge. The fuck?

>>52684923
The problem is the new hinges.
If the battery bulged to the back the screen wouldn't be able to be opened.

Anything comparable to classic thinkpad for keyboard/build quality but with modern parts? I'm happily using a T410 (though I prefer the original-sized escape/delete keys) but would like to have a ready successor someday. Is anyone picking up the slack or are we forever chicletized and hating it? Bad enough they're all 16:9 displays too.

>>52684935
>new hinges
lel they're going from the high quality hinges to consumer shit now?

>>52685038
you will have to wait and see what comes out of the retro thinkpad project. Everything else is chicklet now and the only 16:10 stuff is macbooks.

>>52684923
Seriously?
That is disappointing.

>>52684758
Don't get it.

>>52683302
No, but anyone else can feel free to add to it.

>>52685051
No, they're still reinforced hinges, but they've changed the design for some reason

>>52685135
Somehow I know it will be half-assed.

A 1600p screen would be choice though, fully see two webpages at once. Only laptop I know of with that is Samsung ativ book 9.

>>52684039
move out of your shit tier country, and be less of a kike
(seriously though, idk, im very sorry that you live in israel -- what's it like over there?)

Dear Lenovo engineers,

Make the retro thinkpad's mobo fit into a 15" T60. This is my only request.

>>52685135
So far classic keyboard seems to be leading the polls
They're taking a massive amount of survery data in from our fellow sweaty nerds

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Found a W520 for 350€
i7-2760QM
12Gb RAM
128Gb ssd
15.6" Hd+
NVIDIA Quadro 1000M
is it worth it or should I just keep on looking?

>>52685835
DO IT

>>52685742
That would be choice but it's never gonna happen.

Though realtalk, I would buy a thinkpad that was just a T60 with modern resolution and hardware.

In fact, why doesn't some company make a serious enthusiast's laptop where you buy a base kit at 12", 15", etc. screen sizes, and to upgrade you just buy a new mobo/screen and put it in there? And throw in a service where businesses/consumers can ship their laptop in to get upgraded for a nominal upcharge if they think it's too hard to do themselves.

I'm thinking about buying a elitebook 8460p or a thinkpad t420.

Why do you guys prefer the t420? Specs looks simular, but the elitebook looks more sturdy with the metal body, instead of plastic.

>>52685742
why the fuck would they do that

>>52686077
Thinkpad's are plastic covering a metal frame
Elite book isn't as easy to upgrade, nor as easy to repair, elite book has no ultrabay capability

>>52686197
thanks, ultrabay can be handy.
But the elitbook has one plate you can remove then you access the ram, processor and hdd, so upgrading is easy.

If for some reason there's a guy that's selling a X220 and a X230 at basically the same price, but the X230 has better specifications, would you still buy the X220?

What's the difference between Elitebook and Elitebook Folio?

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>>52686197
>Elite book isn't as easy to upgrade, nor as easy to repair, elite book has no ultrabay capability

You're literally talking total fucking shit now and could not be more incorrect about everything you said in that post.

>>52686308
I might be wrong about upgrades and repair, but I'm guessing you don't know what an ultrabay is?

Do any of you play games on your ThinkPad? Looking for ones to put on my new T420 with integrated video

>>52681068
Yes, don't bother. Get a Chromebook instead.

Yes.

>>52686394
>but I'm guessing you don't know what an ultrabay is
your mom's dick

>>52686394
It seems like you don't either.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2nd-Second-HDD-Hard-Drive-Caddy-For-HP-Elitebook-8460p-8470p-8560p-8570p-8760p-/290683124901

>>52686197
>Elite book isn't as easy to upgrade, nor as easy to repair, elite book has no ultrabay capability

Shitpost.

Source: typing on one right now.

>>52686394
ultrabay is just another name for a hotswapable optical bay you knob jockey.

>>52686394
your dumb ass just got btfo'd

>>52686432
1. Get DOSBox
2. Get a bunch of emulators (retroarch if you want the easy way)
3. Dual-boot XP or put up with incompatibles on 7 (assuming you are on windows of course)

That should cover you for a good 30 years worth of great games.

Just brought a x201 home, in great condition, as an upgrade to my x61. What distro should I start out with? Used Lubuntu on my x61 but thinking of going full paranoia with Tails on this one. Got Windows 7 at the moment

>>52686721
Debian is the only correct answer

how about t430 with 240g SSD, i5 vpro, intel HD and 8tb ram for 300? how's the quality on t430 compared to older ones?

>>52686824
chiclet keyboard

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>>52685309
Not that bad, usually.
Other than the occasional shitskin stabbings, we're a pretty modern country, and the culture is fine.
I'd just hope for some cheaper technology to be available around here...

One of the x220s I'm going to try is coming in the mail (FedEx) today! :D

It's from eBay with i5-2520M 2.5 GHz with 8 GB RAM, an IPS, and a 320 GB HDD. It cost me $315. I'll likely be returning it because...

The other one I'm going to try is one from Craig's List and it has an i7-2640M 2.8 GHz with 8 GB RAM, 256 GB SSD, Intel AC WiFi card, and an IPS screen. It's $325.

Just going to make sure the Craig's List one is in great condition before returning the eBay one just in case the CL one is in crap condition (I assume it's not because it's owned by an old man) or somehow the deal doesn't go down.

Stoked brohs. :3

If I install a mSATA in a X220, I won't have to take the wireless card, correct? Sorry for the dumb question but I need confirmation.

>>52686855
And?

>>52686910
>Craig's List
You about to get raped.

>>52686904
good taste in comics anon

>>52686932
If this applies to the x220 I would like conformation on this as well, an msata ssd running the OS would be great.

>>52687048
H-heh funny one anon.

I'm 6'4" 175 and I'll bring a knife so I should be fine. :3

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>>52686432
I got the dedicated card so I have a much wider selection available, but a few of these should run playably on HD 3000.

Is a T530 brand new good?

>>52687178
> mgs rising

>eye

You sure these run OK? Can you test

I'm upgrading the screen on my T530.

Right now, I have a 1366x768 garbage screen.

This is the right screen upgrade right?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/15-6-1920x1080-LED-Screen-for-LENOVO-42T0765-LCD-LAPTOP-B156HW01-V-4-/310306369916?hash=item483fb3717c:g:ztgAAOSwJkJWlWJ~

I couldn't find anything about mods or converter boards for T530s to get an IPS screen, but if there is something like that out there, please share.

Additionally, should I get the above? I'm concerned that it might be a glossy finish screen, but I'm not sure how much I care about that given that it is the exact model that ships with the T530s that came with that screen, and has the gamut labeled right in the picture. Is this a good choice, or should I keep looking?

>>52687301
They do with the dedicated card. You can probably run EYE on integrated on lower settings. Wouldn't bet on MGR.

>>52687320
What video card and how do you use a video card on a thinkpad senpai

>>52687320
MGR runs on anything if it's all on low, just like DMC4

W520/30 vs W550, latter is going to be more expensive but god that battery life looks amazing. Is the 50's CPU really THAT much weaker than the 20 and 30?
I'll be using it for CAD/Maya/PS/etc.. and multi-tasking under medium load, this would be my first TP so I don't really care for KB layout

How do you fags search on eBay? The sellers are too retarded to fill the Brand, Memory, CPU, etc. fields, and some put 8GB RAM or 8G RAM.

>>52687333
I'm not using an external GPU, the T420 can come with a dedicated internal card. It's nothing special, an Nvidia NVS 4200m, but it really increases your vidya options compared to the integrated HD 3000. To upgrade yours to a dedicated model you'd have to buy a new motherboard and cooler, which is probably not worth the money compared to an external GPU solution.

>>52687389
Type in different variations on the model you want.

I looked up x220 tablet on eBay and couldn't find much, then I typed in x220t tablet and got a 8gb i5 one with everything for like $80 because no one bid on it.

t450 or t550 /g/entoomen ?

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>>52687384
>That track pad
>Those up/down arrow keys
Good lord almighty I didn't look closely at that 550, guess it's between 530 and 520 then.

>>52687470
Is there anyway to find listings with typos? I want to find deals.

I just got a x230 for $200:
>i5 3320
>4gb ram
>128gb ssd

I plan on getting a 1tb hdd and an msata ssd. Is a Crucial MX200 a good choice? And do I really need a recovery disk?

>>52686932
correct

>>52687506
Cheers, I'll just stick with the 7mm SDD then.

Ram vs ssd

Which one should I get next to speed up my tp

>>52687525
SSD will make the bigger difference unless you're running some anemic amount of RAM like <4GB.

>>52687538
It's 4 GB.

>>52687555
Get an SSD, then. Unless you're actually running out of RAM, you won't notice any real speed increase by having more.

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What screws are needed for the msata ssd? Not sure if my thinkpad will come with them

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bongs pls

>>52687640
>pakis pls
FTFY

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Scared desu. The eeprom chip is on the under side of the mother board. Can I short it by holding pins on the sda & scl connectors on the top side of the motherboard? Or do I actually have to get underneath this shit.

>>52681614
How much did you get it for? I'm looking to get a strong W-series but a they're all $500+ I can honestly pay up to 1000 if it's gonna last me at least 6 years though.

Does anyone have experience with the 19+6 Cell Slice Battery on a X230? Does it add too much weight? I like the design a lot, in fact I think it's brilliant but with that much battery life added I want to know how heavy it feels in your backpack/carry bag. I know the weight, I just want to know your personal experience with it.

W500 or T500? I'm honestly just in need of a computer and I'll save for @ desktop later. Comfy web browsing and screenwriting. Maybe even a t60 for value SBD comfy level? Might watch /TV/ occasionally

will taking out a WAN card when I already have one for wifi significantly effect power use, or should I just leave it in? also, any recommendations for APUs? trying to get the max performance/battery life out of this thing.

>>52688273
>screenwriting
Get a chromebook because it's a cheap Facebook machine.

I want to buy a dock for my T420 mostly so I can run CAD software. Are there any docks that come with a dedicated graphics card?

is there any more info on the new thinkpads, like specs and such?

I really want an x260, but they probably won't put in the nice i5/i7s with iris graphics.

>>52688412
But my keyboard and price points

>>52688273
go for x200, they comfy as fuck, no memepad also quite cheap. they're perfect for just browsing and can play 720p no stutter

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DAILY REMINDER THAT IF YOU USE A THINKPAD THAT HAS A RESOLUTION OF 1366 x 768 YOU WILL FOREVER BE KNOWN AS A

DESIGNATED THINK-KEKLET

Giving my new T420 a test to se ehow long full battery lasts. Got the timer on. Any ideas as to normal time should be? Just stock battery I guess

>>52688662
says 6 hours and 37 mins now. lets see if it truly is. never had a laptop make it over 3 hrs.

$380 for an used X230 with 8GB ram, 128GB SSD, docking station and slice battery, has W7 installed, will probably install Lubuntu on it. I'm not in the US, but how does this deal sound? I could get a lower price somewhere else without the accessories.

>>52683146
where did you buy this specifically?

>>52688524
I don't know why I've been focused on a 15 inch screen..
How's this one:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=252260897717&alt=web

got my 'new' x200 battery.

hope it at least lasts double what my current batt lasts. which is like an hour or two.

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>>52688748
Please respond, I'm about to go for it.

>>52683584
>>52683570
>>52683544
x230 has both the thinklight and the backlit keyboard, though most configurations only have one.

I have an x230 and love it, but then I'm fine with the new keyboard as long as the layout isn't terribad like the one on that x1

>>52688834
Go for it.

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>>52688524
Meh. I find mine is getting a bit slow for browsing. But I'll stick with it for at least another year.

> That 1440x900 screen.

>>52687318
Yes. Go for it.

>>52686432
look up any of the "netbook" games lists, you can run any of those. you should be able to run any 2d game. as for modern (ish) games think around HL2/CSGO level.

>>52688457
No docks come with graphics card.
It has been out of commissioned since the T61, and they won't allow powerful graphics for your needs.

>>52688319
Someone said removing the dialup modem helped.

>>52687640
God, the U.K. are such cucks

>>52686498
Elitebooks hold like no value unless they are dream color or workstation models.

>>52687502
if you want to find cheap stuff use generic search terms like "thinkpad" and "x" for say an x-series. and disable filters like ram amount, size, etc. to get more results. sort by cheapest for buy it now or ending soon for auction, and just search through it all. it definitely takes more time but you'll find some stuff that a seller has mislabeled or underdescribed and is selling for cheap out of ignorance, or auctions that no one has looked at so you're like the only bidder. for example I just got a thinkpad that was labeled 2gb ram but it had 4 shown in the BIOS pic, and 4gb when it arrived. most of the mass resellers and recycle places don't investigate each laptop that much, so learn each model and what to look for.

>>52689619
Can you file a partial refund if it wasn't as described

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holy shit, this is so based.

>>52688657
Good thing I swapped the 1400x1050 display into my X60.

>>52689878
think so but I have never done it. if there is a mismatch between pics and the item, or something important missing in the description you can usually argue for a refund. exception being if in the description it explicitly states that the pic is not representative of the product. this is how people can use stock photos and sell things like boxes/manuals and sometimes people think they bought the real item or whatever.

>>52690001
> picture shows i5 sandybridge
>description says i5 ivy bridge

I don't know if I should try asking for partial refund.

>>52686432
I have a T530 with the HD4000 Ivy Bridge integrated graphics.

After upgrading my memory to 16GB (this improved performance in most games by around 7-10%, since the integrated graphics rely on the system memory), I'm able to play FFXIV (lowest settings) at ~30FPS, Deus Ex (original) with graphics mods at highest resolution and settings at close to 40, Dolphin running SSBM near 30fps, and a bunch of stuff from n64 and psp and older on retroarch at 60fps. I tried running SSBB in dolphin, but I was getting under 10FPS, and it was unplayable.

Since your T420 has a generation older integrated graphics, I wouldn't expect better than this. The jump from HD3000 to HD4000 was a significant one.

For reference, my processor is a i5-3320m, and I'm using an SSD, which will marginally improve performance on disk-IO heavy games like FFXIV.

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>>52690035

Been using my T450s for two days now, mainly for working on a pretty intense programming project.

I'm really glad I didn't get a MBP or something, senpaitachi.

>>52690178
> they said it was an ivy bridge CPU
> get thinkpad and it's a Sandy bridge

It's misleading anon. Now I'm going to have to spend extra for the ivy bridge.

>>52690190
fizzbuzz shouldn't be taking you more than a few minutes m8

>>52690230

It didn't.

>>52690227
x220 never came with ivy bridge

You want to buy my rwd civic?

>>52690302
I never said it was an x220 anon, why do you have to make things up

I must be blind. I only just noticed my T420 came with a WWAN card. I can replace this with a mSATA drive, am I correct? I'll never need to use the wireless network, but I have a lot of uses for a 3rd storage space.

>>52690347
because you're the same semite from the last thread

>>52690607
Nope

Are Lenovo ThinkServers good as a desktop?

>>52685742
Also, make an optional Trackpad-delete palmrest.

trackpoint 4lyfe

Yes to W500 2.53ghz, 320 GB HDD, 4gb ram, and port replicator/dock thing for 150 USD?

>>52690991
no

you could get a t520 for that price

>>52691019
I'll admit I'm totally shite at finding deals. I should probably keep researching and looking. I'm antsy to use a PC again, I've been without anything but my phone for months now.

>>52690073
>upgrading my memory to 16GB
>improved performance in most games by around 7-10%
It was the dual channel, not the extra memory

Hey /g/uys, I have an ancient R40 IBM thinkpad, what should I do with it? Its not worth selling, since its not in good condition.

>>52689322
Link to your eBay? I want to see the W520 you have. Hopefully not overpriced

My thinkpad can get hot when I play games etc

Is it hard to change fans or upgrade fans on these?

Are there any worthwhile upgrade possible for my x200? Can I put an SSD in there?

>>52689322
I have 1 GB Nivdia . isn't that a graphic card

>>52692242
affs screen
bios whitelist for wireless card
yes

A few years back, maybe 3, I bought a t420 after coming here asking for advice
I paid 190 not including s&h
Fucker still works, easily double the life-span of every other laptop I've bought. Thanks guys.
What's something to upgrade to, same price range, maybe a better monitor?

>>52692242
libreboot biggest plus. why wouldn't you be able to put a ssd in it?

Joined the meme pad master race.

T550
2.60gigglehertz i7 vPro , 8GB DDR3
1080p TN is the only thing that pissed me off.
I use it for VMWARE on the move for work.

>>>52692242 (You)
>libreboot biggest plus. why wouldn't you be able to put a ssd in it?
Hm what does libreboot change?
It accepts any SSD? I should search a bit, I dont even know where it goes

>>52692526
what do you mean where it goes? it accepts a 2.5 inch drive, which is the same as almost every other fucking laptop.

>tfw I suck at buying thinkpads.

Any veterans care to share your tips?

New thread:
>>52692628

I joined the meme and spent $200 on a T420 (i5 2.5Ghz 1600x900 8GB Ram 320GB), installed Linux Mint on this bitch and it is fucking. glorious.

I have since been taking it to my mediocre, college part-time job to learn web development so that I may get an actual job. Thanks for the suggestions senpai