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Previously on: >>52654323

Intended for users of all levels, including absolute beginners.

There are four ways to try Linux, you can:

1) Install a Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
2) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full Linux experience".
3) Dual-boot Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about Linux)
4) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with Linux (not recommended)

Before asking, please find the answers to your questions in resources.

Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly Linux Thread.

Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe wine can make up for it.

Resources:
man <insert command here>
your friendly neighborhood search engine
https://www.codecademy.com/en/courses/learn-the-command-line
https://wiki.archlinux.org/
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/
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>>52671344
Your picture was true maybe a decade ago
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What is Linux (or GNU/Linux for Stallmanists)?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux

Babby's First Linux (What distro to choose?)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

What software does /g/ recommend? (Please DON'T include the so called infographic [it's reddit-tier] -- refer all your recommended software here.)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software

Ricing on Linux (Make it good and functional or make it worse/puke-inducing like those at desktop threads)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux_ricing

A script designed to ease the transition from Windows to Debian
https://gitgud.io/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript

Check out this page for any updates on the OP
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php//flt/

IRC No one uses:
irc://irc.freenode.org:+7000/FriendlyLinux
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>>52671367
found the newfag
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>>52671369
why I do rsync /* to backup all my files on a separate computer it gets through a lot of the files and then hangs at proc/kcore am I doing something wrong?

the full command i'm using is
rsync -u -v -a -e ssh /* [email protected]:/home/eddy/backups/t420
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I'm looking into GPU Passthrough with VMs, should I choose Exsi or Virt-Manager/Xen/Qemu?
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>>52671445
I'm looking at xen-igvtg in the AUR and it says 4.5, which is the latest version of Xen, but it requires Linux-igvtg which uses the old kernel 3.18
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After running Xubuntu for about a week with no problems, pulseaudio has suddenly started having issues. I don't think it likes my Logitech headset. If I leave pavucontrol alone everything is fine but sometimes I NEED to change the audio source or volume level and doing so causes applications outputting sound to either become slow with extremely choppy audio, or crash completely. The pavucontrol window will also repeatedly blank out with the message "Establishing connection to pavucontrol"

I've deleting ~/.config/pulse and restarting pulseaudio; I don't know what other measure to take to troubleshoot the issue and I don't know what other info would help. Has anyone else had this problem? Also, is there any easy way to wipe all user settings without reinstalling the operating system from flash drive?
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I just installed Debian 8 on my ThinkPad and I am wanting to go full tinfoil. Its all a little overwhelming, though. Where should I start? I already read through a few wiki pages, but I am just interested in encrypting my data. Can I encrypt my current root directory and unlock it from my /boot partition on startup?
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>>52671655
tried
>>52670223
yet?
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>>52671686
yep several times. i'm gonna reboot without the headset plugged in and see if it's any better; even after i restart pulseaudio and close out any programs that caused it to crash, my computer has a bit of choppiness for the rest of my session
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sup /flt/
have a problem with my T61
it's running BunsenLabs (Crunchbang's Successor) and i'm having some problems with alsa

haven't found the same or a very similar problem on the internet so far either

basically, when waking the thinkpad up or unmuting it, it won't output sound anymore

if i go to the console and enter
alsactl init

it will output sound again

anyone got any ideas how to fix this?
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>>52671827
Try to get
alsactl init &

on startup, usually .xinitrc, or $HOME/.config/openbox/autostart or something.
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https://archive.is/6QaFA
You guys should be using arch Linux, it's the most secure on this list
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>>52671681
https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
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>>52671953
i'd prefer to actually fix it instead of working around it

turns out, upon muting, alsa mutes the output device and master.
but upon umuting, just umutes master and not the device

any ideas?
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>>52672029
>the website uses https so it's secure, guys!

Just...no.

And that guy needs to learn English grammar.
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>>52672128
Better than plaintext HTTP, which is what distributions like mint and Slackware only use.
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>>52672029
You should feel ashamed for posting such shit
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>>52672142
A real man always uses plaintext because he has nothing to hide. Do you think Richard Stallman cowers behind HTTPS?
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>>52672214
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>>52672258
>visiting stallman.org 3 times in one day
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Are distros just the process to install, default installs/ programs, and the package manager? Since you can change all the installed stuff, does that mean as distros is just the package manager? Can you change your package manager?
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>>52672302
Regular worship just works.
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>>52672302
prior to today actually.
also
>not visiting stallman.org and rms.sexy everyday
do you hate freedom?
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>>52672335
You can install any package manager you want, but that doesn't strike me as a good idea.

Distros are also about repositories. The stuff in the repos isn't just random vanilla software. For example, Debian's Stable repos are extensively tested and patched and backported. The versions of the software may not be the newest available, but it's stuff that works. So when you install program x on Debian, it's not the exact same copy of the program as it is on some distro unrelated to Debian even if the version number is the same.
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>>52672399
Damn man, they have the same eyes as the "clubbing hard" teenagers
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Installed numix icons from the aur using yaourt. No errors during installation but they dont work.
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>>52671385
>eddy
Low tier name if I ever saw one
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>>52672902
>arch users can't even extract icons into a folder and index them
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>>52672953
Theyre in /usr/share/icons and I rebuilt the font cache index.
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>>52672960
good, are all the icons in there? check the subfolders.
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>>52673029
Folders ranging from 16 to 256 and each has several .svg files inside
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>>52672960
try restarting X/your computer

fonts, themes and icons are one of the things I absolutely hate about linux. They are one of the things that just _never_ works tbqh.
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>>52673093
Restarted multiple times, and uninstalled and reinstalled. Tried faenza and they installed without any issues but both the normal and circle Numix icons just will not work for me.
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Hey guys, I managed to run into a power loss while installing wine. Now when I try to install it again it goes okay until the checking file dependencies and then eats up all the memory and slows everything to the point where mouse pointer barely works.

Any ideas?

My idea is that I should remove the files that wine installed. I found a a wine library in /lib. Where else could I find wine-related files that should be removed?

I am on Arch btw
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>>52673124
install it from github instead.
https://github.com/numixproject/numix-icon-theme
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>numix
>solarized
>pure horror
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>>52673267
Manually downloaded the folders from github, rebuilt font cache, rebooted and same thing
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Sometimes pacaur fails to install AUR packages.
Current issue: firefox-nightly.
It builds the package successfully, but at the end of the AUR part and before the pacman part there is this:
:: Installing firefox-nightly package(s)...

and then nothing. pacman doesn't touch the package, it just doesn't run. I have to manually install the .pkg.tar file.

How do I fix this?
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>>52673212
Corrupt filesystem probably.
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Anybody playing Nethack 3.6.0? I'm running Arch and I'm not getting any coloured or bold characters in the game regardless of my terminal. Is a fix floating around?
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>>52673471
Fuck off tripfag cancer.
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>>52673471
see
>>52673496
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>>52673471
y0 愛してるさわこ, long time no see, what's crackling buddY?
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>>52673401
did you forget to install numix-circle? they are designed to be used together.
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>>52671344
> using an OP image that's been used before

Fuck off, cunt.
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>>52673825
sway
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What're the advantages to Gentoo? I used it for a month and the only change I noticed was it made things more difficult and made everything take longer.

> inb4 n00buntu

I'm a competent Linux user, I can operate a Gentoo install. I just don't see the point in making things take longer for no noticeable benefit.
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>>52674333
Have you tried googling?
I'm willing to bet that with the level of gentoo's documentation there is a page on their wiki explaining why possibly you would want to go through all the hassle.

Or are you just asking this question to get a few archfaggots buttblasted and spawn a shitstorm over a non-issue?
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>>52674333
Yeah, man. The stereotype of "He likes things being easier, therefore he's new" is fucking stupid. Ease of use distro ≠ Lack of experience.
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I have the Xen Kernel installed, if I commit
"systemctl enable whatever$", will that be enabled on my regular kernel too.
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>>52674503
Is this the future we live in? People think that systemd is a kernel.

Of course it will be enabled, because systemd isn't a kernel just yet.
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>>52674579
>systemd isn't a kernel just yet.
Was that a challenge?
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>>52674600
Nope, that's near future.
The real challenge is making it into a full OS.
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>>52674621
>>52674600
>>52674579
Sorry, didn't mean to flame, just trying to setup Xen with VGA
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>>52674621
>mfw systemd desktop will get more adoption than ganoo/loonatix ever hoped to get
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>>52674652
>systemd
Just occured to me that this doesn't actually sound bad as an OS name.
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Any one have any thoughts on ZFS for Linux?
http://zfsonlinux.org/

Does it function just as well?
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I don't understand how do you -not- use a DE?
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>>52674763
By "DE" we all understand "integrated DE" with all common tools from a single vendor/developer group and not a graphical environment you composed yourself from available software (ie WM of choice, panel of choice, managers of choice etc etc etc)

And using it or not is just a matter of preference.

I used to be a strong WM acolyte but recently switched back to a DE. After some time you stop caring about the rice and start appreciating the convenience of a DE.
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Bought an Asus X205TA for light work in my uni and I would like to know if I should install Lubuntu 32bit since it only has 2GB of ram, or should I go for the 64bit version. I know it's a dumb question but the Lubuntu page says "PCs with the Windows 8 logo or UEFI firmware, choose the 64-bit download", so that's why I'm unsure.
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>>52674742
I made a RAIDZ array out of for USB flash drives.
"works for me"/10

>>52674763
You use a WM and do things yourself.
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>>52674835
use the 64bit one. There's no reason to use 32bit if your CPU is 64bit even if you have only 2GB of ram
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>>52671344
Posting again from earlier today:

Can someone list the steps for replacing sysvinit and openrc with runit on gentoo?
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>>52674833
>>52674843

Alright so the DE is like a package deal, but you can just use a window manager and do it piece by piece. So I could start with something like openbox, and go from there.
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>>52674621
>>52674652
>>52674740
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as systemd, is in fact, GNU/systemd, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus systemd.
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>>52674925
I'm also assuming I don't need a display manager for open box either?
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>>52674983
>mfw stallman endorses poettering ware because all he cares about is the license
>and it's LGPL
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>>52675006
If you're desperate to not use one you don't have to.
With proper configuration you can login from the level of tty and start your graphical session from there.
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>>52675159
>stallman endorses poettering ware
source please, i am pretty sure he wants gnu dmd to succeed in the long run.
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>>52675285
http://www.networkworld.com/article/2900305/opensource-subnet/stallman-joins-the-internet-talks-net-neutrality-patents-and-more.html#comments

>The systemd init software has rocked the Linux community, causing forks of popular distributions and sparking heated debate.

>Stallman, however, has long stood apart from the world of open-source and Linux – he regards “open-source” as a weak form of openness, and insists on referring to Linux as GNU/Linux.
>Thus, it wasn’t a surprise that, when asked whether he had an opinion on the systemd controversy, he replied with a flat “no, I don’t.”

>“I’ve never seen it, I’ve never used a system that had it; I know it’s free software, so ethically speaking, it’s not an issue – it’s just a convenience question.” ?

Now I'm aware that I shouldn't use the word "embrace".
But the rest of my post stands true, all he cares about is whether it's free software or not.
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>>52675373
he also cares about the software being ethical as in not spying the user or similar, bot otherwise you are right. i think he believes that it will sort itself out if it's shitty.
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Friendly reminder:
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/r/ing the command that anons use in order to print OS information in the terminal. I don't think it'd matter but I'm running sabayon.

Also if anyone not running Linux wants to have a mild look at why everyone's flogging Gentoo, you'd wanna look at sabayon. I don't think you can streamline it as much as gentoo because you're not building from scratch but it has fairly sensible defaults.
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>>52675647
screenfetch or archie
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I want to install proxmox on my HP server which has dual CPU's.

What architecture to choose? AMD64?
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>>52673439
Wait?
Firefox is a heavy package
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Is Xubuntu the best? It's not only relatively light but also looks pretty.
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>>52675718
It all depends on your preferred DE.
Personally, I really like LXDE. :^)
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>>52675718
what the fuck kind of question is that
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>>52671344
How to delete files at Redhat with ONLY command line. And how can I get information about the disk usage?
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>>52675707
No, pacman doesn't run at all. pacaur finishes without pacman having a chance to do anything, not even to be slow because firefox is "heavy".
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My local primary school got donated about 20 computers with out any OS. I was asked to put linux on it. Seen as the school can't afford 20 windows 7 licences , linux might be a better alternative.

What is the most straight forward and less troublesome OS and distro I should put on it? I was thinking about just putting Ubuntu /unity or perhaps linux mint, Thoughts /g/ ?
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>>52672302
> shitty formatting
> http links to sites with https
> bernie sanders
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>>52675769
rm -rf
df -h
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>>52675794
I'd be absolutely fucking ecstatic in your position.
Gentoo.

No, but seriously, Linux Mint.
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>>52675790
Sounds like a bug report for pacaur
Try another aur helper
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>>52675794
Ubuntu LTS (Unity) or Linux Mint.

But I would go for Ubuntu, if any of the school pupils ever gets to look for Linux, Ubuntu will probably be the first result
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>>52675794
>>52675794
Not Ubuntu Amazon Botnet. Mint or Ubuntu MATE would be good, Lubuntu is also pretty nice.

Personally I'd install Fedora Cinnamon or CentOS, but that's just me.

For a computer a bunch of children are going to use, get a distro with the Cinnamon Desktop. Personally I find rpm-based distros easier to use, but I'm sure people here have other opinions.
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>>52675794
Ubuntu Cinnamon
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>>52672935
Real name isn't eddy it Edwin meaning Rich friend or King of Men. pretty sweet name if you ask me.
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>>52675832
I'd love to see a bunch of children try to install Gentoo.

>>52675794

Or install Arch. Teach them how to actually use their computers.
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>>52675794
xubuntu or mint cinnamon are the easiest i guess.
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>>52675943
Sobbing hysterically as they enter the command line.

"WHAT'S AN LS?"
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>>52675734
You're right. There is no question.

Xubuntu is the best.
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>>52676003
What fucking pleb teaches their children to use ls.
Its fucking ls -a. faggot
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>>52676051
why not ls -la?
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>>52676051
Add it to their .bashrc files. :^)
alias ls='ls -a'
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>>52676003
i think children would be fairly good at this because they are not scared of the cli yet.
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>>52676071
babee's cause they dont know what permissions are yet. You teach then after
god
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>>52676083
Hahah.
>yet
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>>52676100
it's actually true, whenever the media speaks about the "evil hacking" they show cli. people had a lot of fun in the terminal in "the talos principle" and that was pretty much *nix.
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>>52676082
No.
No no no no no.

alias la='ls -a'
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So I installed Debian yesterday, but I can't get wifi to work on my computer. I found and installed the firmware I need, but I still can't detect wireless networks. I'm wondering if I should try Trisquel or Mint instead, since I previously tried the former booting from a usb and wifi worked out of the box. I don't mind having to fix things, but when the solutions to the problem have problems, I can't handle that.
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How do I make my cinnamon desktop use the xfce screenshot program?

I installed it and I want to set it up so when I hit print screen it doesn't use cinnamon's screenshooter, it uses xfce's.
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>>52676158
post screenshot of lspci
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>>52676161
You can choose which program to use in the screenshot applet
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>>52676161
install xfce4-screenshooter and change the keyboard shortcut in settings.

Christ people it's like you never actually fucking tried to do it on your own
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When people showcase their setups, what I'm really seeing is their DE right? So if I'm choosing based on aesthetics then really I'm choosing between desktop environments right? The distro is more to do with whats behind the scenes? Am I off?

How much of a difference is their between say XFCE running on Ubuntu and XFCE running on Debian?

Just trying to fully understand, thanks.
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>>52676051
>>52676071
>>52676082
>>52676149
W R O N G
it's
ls -lFh
you faggots
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>>52676219
>When people showcase their setups, what I'm really seeing is their DE right?
You see their graphical environment.
"DE" usually refers to an integrated desktop environment like gnome/kde/mate/xfce/lxde.
Some people compose their own graphical environment.

>How much of a difference is their between say XFCE running on Ubuntu and XFCE running on Debian?
None. The ubuntu one just comes with a pretty theme out of the box.
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>>52676219
DE's or WM's
DE's are a prebuilt package of programs.
You are free to install others, but the main programs will need to be installed for it to function.
A wm is a base of just the core needed to start having a desktop.It has basic files only needed to run it, you expand on this as you install things you need. WM"s are alot more ricer then de's
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>>52674333
I don't know what >>52674409 is talking about, since Arch and Gentoo are very different.

The key is ports.

Gentoo makes it so that everything is installed from source but in a well-organized way. This means you get most of the benefits of source installations (e.g. finetuning for your system) while also getting the benefits of package management.

Gentoo also has USE flags, which means you only have to install the dependencies that are useful to you, rather than installing every possible dependency.
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>>52676174
print screen button says gnome screenshot isn't installed, and X Window Snapshot doesn't seem to do anything when I run it. My network controller is a Centrino 6205 if that helps.
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>>52676259
BABBE DONT KNOW PERMISSIONS YET,THATS LIKE 2 STEPS LATER
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>>52676291
So you've installed iwlwifi?
Have you tried actually enabling wifi in the network-manager applet? Right click on it.
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hi senpaitachi i have this thing called "refit" on my apple that makes me boot into windows or macintosh, can i install linux on it too?

thanks for the help
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>>52676289
>rather than installing every possible dependency
This.
You want Gnome, but not systemd? Gentoo is pretty much the only distro that lets you do this with a single line of config.
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>>52676289
On gentoo right now.

It feels like a PITA to actually do anything _but_ compile from source. Modifying something myself takes a lot of work.
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>>52676158
Enable the non-free package repository and install linux-firmware.
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>>52676289
bash does not in anyway get optimized by your cflags.
Some bigger programs, yes cflags matter. But the base care of linux does not. Gentoo is little more then ricer placebo taking cflags to a paragraph level.

Arch installs pre compile and in some cases binary built. You are free to build from source usiing their pkgbuild system. But again most things do not care what your cflags are, unless its larger programs.
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>>52676291
install scrot
scrot -s lets you choose a window to screenshot, or just run scrot for the whole desktop
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>>52676319
I have installed iwlwifi. Wicd network manager has wifi enabled but doesn't detect any wireless networks, but I know they must exist as I'm using them right now.
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>>52675373
Shut your butthole, you sound like a Microsoft shill.
Even Novell is making business with Microsoft in preparation for a GNU/Linux takeover.

>pic related
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>>52676422
I just quoted an article, what the fuck are you on about?
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Anyone have the Arch wallpaper that says
"If you're seeing this, it means that you finally got Xorg to work. Feel free to masturbate; you've earned it."? I'm paraphrasing.
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>>52676580
no because im not a newfag loser dweeb nerd faggot, lmfao :)
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>>52671587
So I found a tutorial, but I don't understand all of it.

http://blog.lofyer.org/intel-igvt-g-vgpu-in-xen-howto/
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>>52676396
Probably not going to yet, as if I can't get wifi to work I'm not keeping this OS. I can't really use a laptop with only wired connection, might as well be a desktop.
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Sitting on a linux server _right now_.

I want to test if the two X5680 CPU's are performing well.

How do I do that? What architecture should I have chosen for the linux distro? (ProxMox)

I chose AMD64. That's the right one, right?
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>>52676615
you've successfully completed nothing that has been asked of you

If you can't take a screenshot just pipe the output of lspci to a text file or the clipboard and post it here in code brackets
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>>52676422
> frogposting

go back to r9k.
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>>52676646
mprime
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>>52676646
>I want to test if the two X5680 CPU's are performing well.
any benchmark

>I chose AMD64. That's the right one, right?
yes
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Friendly reminder this is what lennart thinks about linux bricking your motherboard when you use uefi
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2402
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>>52676746
>The ability to hose a system is certainly reason enought to make sure it's well protected and only writable to root.
>But beyond that: root can do anything really.
I fail to see the problem?
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>>52676658
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:16.3 Serial controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family KT Controller (rev 04)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 04)
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 04)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev b4)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev b4)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev b4)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 5 (rev b4)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation QM67 Express Chipset Family LPC Controller (rev 04)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 04)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 04)
03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] (rev 34)
0d:00.0 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd PCIe SDXC/MMC Host Controller (rev 07)
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>>52676772
Read farther down
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Hey guys, you won't believe, but running
rm -r /sys/*/efi-vars

prevents systemd from starting on the next boot. Check it out!
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>>52676772
The only thing I'd remain curious about is how necessary is remounting 'ro'? Is remounting 'ro' a workaround for rare corner cases of severely poorly designed firmwares, or is it a precaution that would be wise for everyone to consider as most consumer hardware/firmware is not desgined robustly enough yet?

I also think that GNU/Linux (I mean the whole system) should do with what they have. I find it a problem that systemd mount such sensitive directory in a hardcoded way. The proper solution would be for systemd not to mount it unless it appears in /etc/fstab. That's what was the traditional way of mounting things. Note that efivars is not at all indispensable to have a running system. To my knowledge it is only needed if you want to modify the efi bootloader; you only want to do it when you install the system. It is not even indispensable because you can name your bootloader /efi/boot/bootx64.efi and the firmware would boot it by default
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>>52676779
have you installed iwlwifi?

Add non-free to your apt sources:

deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free


sudo apt-get update && apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi


sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi ; modprobe iwlwifi


Then make sure you have a wireless network manager installed
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>>52676675
Suggestion noted.

>>52676680
Thanks.
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>>52676844
This is what I got when I searched for it yesterday, but deb gives command not found which I thought was strange.
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>>52676915
no, you have to add that to your apt sources file. I haven't used debian/buntu in like 10 years so I can't remember exactly where it's at, I think it's /etc/apt/sources.list or something like that, i.e.:

sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
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>>52676786
>>52676800
>>52676817
okay this is pure fucking retardedness.

But I read the thread on archforum and didn't find an answer to this question.
Is it a problem with that particular motherboard hardware?
Ie. not having a failsafe system that will restore the firmware?

What would be the reason to actually keep the partition mounted as rw as default? Does any software actually need to write there?
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>>52676963
Ah, I see, that's the right location anon. So I just add that line into this text file? I installed the firmware through Synaptic but should I do it with apt-get afterward anyway?
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>>52677017
You need to just add non-free so you can install the firmware. If you already installed it through synaptic then apparently you've already enabled the non-free repo through some other means

In that case I would try modprobing
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If I dualboot win7+debian, can i easily access files between the 2 and if I install java and python through win7 would it be installed for both?
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>>52677054
no, chirst where the fuck did you get that idea
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>>52677054
>not sure if troll
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>>52677044
I tried apt-get anyway and it looped errors trying to contact security.debian.org and httpredir.debian.org so I just quit it. Trying modprobe now...
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>>52677007
No one is sure and no one is willing to entirely brick their system to find out(not their install their mobo)
When you update the efivars/firmware yes.
But we have dedicated tools for that such as flashrom. It shouldnt be mount without the users input and rw. You should have to mount it when YOU want to change things on it, not by default and bricking your MOBO.
This is potterings vision for systemd, fuck up your hardware by default!!
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>>52677121
You really should get your sources worked out first

You're going to have major problems if you can't get the proper updates and dependencies installed
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>>52677121
Use a better os, that dosent consider basic functionality drivers as a threat to the system
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>>52677054
No. Dual boot is effectively two different computers on the same hard drive.

You can from your debian part mount the windows part and copy shit over, but anything installed to the windows part would be fucking useless; it'd be more for having the same photos and shit.

The windows part can't communicate with the deb part at all.

As a side not, encrypt your deb part; theoretically windows can't read ext4 but don't ever assume you're safe when microsoft software is on your computer.
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>>52677044
>>52677121
Actually I'm just retarded and I think the lan cable I was using doesn't work... I'll go use one that does and try again.
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>>52677126
> accidentally dd'd a large portion of my sda a while back
> came within fucking inches of destroying my computer forever

Holy shit.
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>>52677144
Ah, this is what happened when I tried to run apt-get yesterday. It says "could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: resource temporarily unavailable)" and then "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
Am I running something that shouldn't be running?
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Anyone ever gotten a custom kernel running in Fedora?

Trying to change the configuration but I can't work out how Fedora handles Kernel stuff.
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>>52677184
>they didnt use dd
>they used rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
>systemd mounted without the users consent, in rw mode
>deleted motherboard firmware from within linux using a normal command , rm , instead of a specialized command such as flashrom.
Yeah no not a users case here, this is a broken system that is supported by lennert
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>>52676259
You were so close

alias la='ls -lAhF'


I can't remember the last time I actually read the . or .. lines.
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>>52677159
>Dual boot is effectively two different computers on the same hard drive.
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>>52677121
So aside from the errors I'm seeing here: >>52677224
sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi gives "FATAL: Module iwlwifi is in use"
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>>52677224
Close synaptic and stop using it forever
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>>52677342
Two separate partitions with seperate operating systems more or less unable to communicate with each other.
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>>52677356
Closed synaptic and error remains.
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>>52677381
>i can mount ntfs with ntfs-3g
>i can go to the drive and execute any program i want, provided it isnt a windows system
>mfw im listening to my music on my windows folder with foobar2000 when booted in to linux

>mfw windows can read ext
>mfw i can use scripts or other shit i made in my home folder and execute them in windows
>mfw then program i wrote in perl works from my linux disk to my windows enviornment
Shut up kid
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>>52677356
>>52677401
Or rather, the modprobe error remains. apt-get worked but it still says iwlwifi is in use.
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>>52677414


Are you sure you don't have a hardware button or switch for the wifi?

Try: sudo rfkill list
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>>52677446
I think there is a switch. I turned it off but the problem remained.
0: tpacpi_bluetooth_sw: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: yes
Hard blocked: yes
1: phy0: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: yes
Hard blocked: yes
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>>52677483
Well turn it back on and then do: sudo rfkill unblock all
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>>52677511
Done. List is all "no" now, but modprobe still fails.
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>>52677535
modprobe isn't failing, its already loaded (like it should be)

What network manager are you using?
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>>52677545
Wicd. It's not detecting any wireless networks but the wired network works fine.
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>>52677637
Have you chosen the correct wireless interface in wicd?

Could you also try looking for errors in dmesg:

dmesg | grep iwlwifi


Try bringing up the wifi interface manually:

ip link set wlan0 up


you can find the correct interface using:

iw dev
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There was a linux zero-day discovered recently, I can't remember exactly what it did, but I remember a bunch of LINFAGS BTFO threads.

It was like in the last two weeks. It was something pretty bad.

Was it patched? What kernel version is it fixed in?
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>>52677711
http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/canonical-patches-the-zero-day-linux-kernel-vulnerability-in-all-supported-ubuntu-oses-499134.shtml
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Does Arch Linux have a Tech Support IRC.
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>>52677711
It was patched in the various versions of the kernel.

You have to remember that a bunch of versions of the kernel are out at any given time, so if it's been recently updated, it's gotten the patch.

https://www.kernel.org/
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>>52677708
There doesn't appear to be an option for choosing a wireless interface in wicd. Just wifi on or off, connecting to hidden or ad hoc networks, disconnect or refresh.
dmesg just looks like the errors are to do with when I toggled the manual switch, I can post a full log when I get back from going out in about 2 or 2.5 hours. iw dev gives
phy#0
Interface wlan0
ifindex 3
wdev 0x1
addr a0:88:b4:97:8d:b8 (i assume this is a MAC address but I don't know what to do with it)
type managed

ip link set wlan0 up hasn't changed anything that I can see.
Sorry anon but I have to go for now. Thanks so much for your help, I'm sure someone else will be able to help if you aren't still here.
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>>52677744
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IRC_channels
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>>52677774
Thanks.
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>>52677727
>>52677760
Fuckin' A, thanks guys.
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Has anybody here used NetRunner 17? How would you rate it?

Thinking of moving to Linux full time and I think KDE Plasma 5 is my DE and NetRunner seems to get a good rap.

I'd install it in a VM to try it but it doesn't start in VMware
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>>52677744
They do, but dont bother going in to it. Its just elitists asshole who want you to do things THEIR way instead of how you doing it. Arch is great but their dev base is full of autistic spergs who may know their shit, but they are horrible c support beyond going it their way in their niche in their network
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>>52677898
>They do, but dont bother going in to it. Its just elitists asshole who want you to do things THEIR way instead of how you doing it. Arch is great but their dev base is full of autistic spergs who may know their shit, but they are horrible c support beyond going it their way in their niche in their network

I see, I'm doing something fairly complicated for me so ANY help is appreciated. Even from assholes lol
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>>52677922
>not asking in thread
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>>52677931
>not asking in thread

I don't think this is for beginners but here is an idea of what I'm trying to use

http://blog.lofyer.org/intel-igvt-g-vgpu-in-xen-howto/

https://github.com/01org/XenGT-Preview-kernel/blob/master/XenGT_Setup_Guide.pdf
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>>52677955
What do you want to do?
If you're using consumer hardware, you most likely will need a dedicated GPU to pass to a guest.
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>>52677997
This specifically requires an Intel iGPU, this isn't passthrough in the traditional sense because the Host still maintains use of the iGPU.
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>>52678023
Seems simple enough.
Build a custom kernel with support for the feature.
Build Xen and Qemu with support.
Modify your bootloader to tell Linux to load support.
Make sure the Xen service starts automatically.
Compile your graphics stack with support.
Configure Xen and Guest OS to use the feature.
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>>52678116
Continuing,
It has been developed for Ubuntu, so you'll need to get the sources for the compatible libraries and customize the shit out of your Arch install to make it work.
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>>52671681

Were you given an option to encrypt your disk when you installed Debian? Ubuntu asks that.
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>>52678116

Well I already have the AUR packages installed, they add their own defaults and grub modifications.

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xen-igvtg/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/linux-igvtg/
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>>52678175
That should leave just the graphics stack to worry about.
You should be able to use the upstream mesa libs from Intel.
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>>52678219
>That should leave just the graphics stack to worry about.
>You should be able to use the upstream mesa libs from Intel.


Yes, Skylake is supported on Linux 4.3 and up. My problem is that whenever I load the Xen Kernel, it just freezes at "inital ramdisk"
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would anyone happen to know if there's a package that would let me put a applet in the tray for monitoring power draw?
powertop provides that information, but I'm not sure how I'd get it besides for having a terminal open with it running all the time
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>>52678311
Get rid of the AUR kernel and configure your own using the Intel guide.
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>>52676158
Rfkill unblock all
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>>52676746
>quality technical advise
>quality product overall
>coming from someone suspected of facilitating the Microsoft undertaking of Linux
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>>52678793
>>52676800
>>52676817
>>52677007
>>52677126
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>>52678793
> microsoft undertaking of Linux

What?
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aticonfig --initial fucked up xorg

startx gives me a fucking segmentation fault
what do I do to start figuring out what the fuck is wrong with it?
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>>52677744
Gentoo is friendlier, better, stronger.
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>>52677744
Freenode,
#archlinux, if I recall correctly.
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>>52678858
>>52678844
Got that memo earlier lol
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>>52671367
still true
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>>52678882
Will you stay true?
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Maybe you guys can give me some advice.

I used to run an Openbox/Tint2 panel when I last used linux. I'm not a fan of DEs, so what WM would you guys recommend? I'm thinking about using a dock instead of a panel, so what dock software is good?
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>>52678843
never mind I just uninstalled the proprietary driver and reinstalled / reconfigured xserver-xorg with the free one

I think from now on I'm going to pretend that I care about muh freedom more than I care about the performance of my card
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>>52678338
>Get rid of the AUR kernel and configure your own using the Intel guide.

Fucking takes to long, I'll just use regular xen or esxi!
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>>52678961
>I used to run an Openbox/Tint2 panel when I last used linux. I'm not a fan of DEs, so what WM would you guys recommend? I'm thinking about using a dock instead of a panel, so what dock software is good?

Docky (mono)
or
Plank
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>>52679095
>localmodconfig && make && make modules_install && make install
Yeah takes forever.
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https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Encrypting_an_entire_system#LVM_on_LUKS
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/System_configuration#Boot_loader
Okay so I'm trying to full disk encrypt a debian install, with encrypted root partition that is inside lvm, and I don't really get this.
Should I add something like this to /etc/default/grub:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="cryptdevice=device:dmname root=/dev/mapper/volumegroup-logicalvolume crypto=sha512:twofish-xts-plain64:512:0:
?
Do I also need cryptkey=device:fstype:path? I have not specified a keyfile when I encrypted the partition.
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>>52679107

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll try them out.
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>>52679343
Use the UUID instead of direct file names
use blkid to find the device/partition use that uuid in the
cryptdevice=UUID=<uuid>
And yes root= is the mounted root path
So in the case of root being the vol group and rootpart being the mounted name
root=/dev/mapper/root/rootpart
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>>52678961
I really recommend I3. Works out of the box with default config files, all easy to understand. For example, to execute Firefox via keybindings, in your .i3/config file, just add

$bindsym+shift+f exec firefox

Where $bindsym means whatever your 'super key' is; as expected, holding your super key + shift + f would launch Firefox. It's really fucking easy and works well.
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>>52679107
I've used fluxbox for 8 years its an openbox derivative with plaintext config, not in xml like shitbox. I tried tiling but having to have to remember 100 keybinds to do basic window movement that would take me all of 0.00001cm to do with a mouse, is asinine.

I dont use a dock but plank is what i've been seeing everywhere
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Gonna be honest, I wish to dual boot windows and Linux just to rice an desktop and watch anime. What's the smallest partition that I can safely give Linux? I'll probably install something meme-tier like Arch or Gentoo
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>>52679095
Have you ever installed Gentoo?
I advise doing that, then coming back to Xen.
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>>52679601
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/partitioning#How_big_should_my_partitions_be.3F


Have fun.
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>>52673212
try --force, should ignore conflicting files
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>>52679601
Arch: 4GB
Gentoo 8GB
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>>52679629
I'm gonna be squeezing it in and storing all media on a separate drive, so Arch sounds good ty
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>>52675006
no, you could throw
exec /usr/bin/openbox-session

into ~/.xinitrc
and then just launch it with startx from a tty
same as any WM/DE though

there's no standard DM for openbox, but any of them can be used, lightdm probably being the most popular at the moment
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>>52679629
>Gentoo 8GB
heh yeah good luck with that.
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>>52679679
it makes it a challenge.
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>>52676219
more or less, DE's usually include many non-visible tools and applications as well, that make up a functional system (web browser, calculator, calendar, mail program, etc, etc)
though which components you use it entirely up to you

you don't have to use all of one DE's programs, you can mix & match what you please

XFCE on ubuntu and and debian is the same thing, just with different default configurations
if you're looking to customize it, then look at what the program *can* do, rather than what they look like by default or in a particular distribution (though looking at what others have done with it will give you a good idea of what can be done)
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>>52674122
>muh edgy new pic
Fuck off you piece of shit. You never contribute to /flt/.
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Can I change the string for the kernel version like

>Linux 4.3.0-1-KAWAII

how do I do it? I'm on antergos.
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>>52679920
it's an option you set before compiling
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>>52679944
How do I edit it out?
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Is there any way to get a font that's selectable in xfontsel also selectable for gui applications?
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>>52679944
there should be a setting in I think the software and updates dialog that lets you see which kernel you have installed and has a list of alternatives you can choose from
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>>52679976
make nconfig, change it at the appropriate option and then rebuilt your kernel.

You could (technically) change the name of the kernel by renaming and updating the grub and modules directory. But these are presumably packaged files so your package manager should moan if you do this.

>>52679990
Like terminus? Of course, put them in a place where fonts are read, like ~/.fonts.
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>>52680124
>Like terminus? Of course, put them in a place where fonts are read, like ~/.fonts
I have them in /.fonts, but fc-cache doesn't cache them. The only way the system recognizes them is with 'xset fp rehash' which has to be run every time X is restarted. And then that only makes the fonts available in xfontsel, not any applications.
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>>52680172
let me guess, arch?
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>>52680235
no
>>
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF#Binding_to_VFIO

I'm stuck at this part, Arch Linux does not have an
/etc/sysconfig
directory.
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>>52680247
haha sure.
It's possible, read a wiki to set up your fonts properly.
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>>52680276
it's debian
if you know where there's information on how to add pcf fonts to gui applications I would appreciate a link
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>>52680235
What does arch have to do with this issue?
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>>52679976
i wouldn't recommend it, the version string is used in several places, including the kernel image itself (really should not be touching this once it's compiled)

[email protected] ~ % hexdump -C /boot/vmlinuz-linux-ck | grep '4.3.4-1-ck' 
000038a0 34 2e 33 2e 34 2d 31 2d 63 6b 20 28 6d 69 6b 75 |4.3.4-1-ck (miku|
^C
130 [email protected] ~ % uname -r
4.3.4-1-ck


the proper way to do it in arch would be to grab the PKGBUILD for the linux package, edit it, and build it
https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/snapshot/packages-956d137535
249157f7faadd75e4c2
db37ad6816f.tar.gz
(extract to a folder, edit PKGBUILD, then run "makepkg" from that folder in a terminal, install the built package with pacman -U <pkg>)

>>52680121
meant to quote someone else? this is not related
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>>52679521

Yeah I just got done messing with i3 and it was pretty easy and straightforward. Documentation is pretty thorough too.
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>>52680121
yeah, meant to quote >>52679920
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>>52679916
> people actually remember shit I post

I've used an original image every time I've OP'd one of these threads. It's pretty much the only requirement apart from knowing how to copy and paste.
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>>52679920
If you mean like when loading I think it's just a matter of adjusting the values in your bootloader, and in your /boot changing the vmlinuz-(version) to whatever the fuck you like.
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>>52680393
he asking a different question
he wants to change the text "ARCH" in "4.3.0-1-ARCH" to "KAWAII", not switch to using an existing kernel named "4.3.0-1-KAWAII"
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>>52680426
Not quite that simple
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>>52680387
What're you going to try next?
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>>52680268
>Binding to VFIO

#!/bin/bash

modprobe vfio-pci

for dev in "$@"; do
vendor=$(cat /sys/bus/pci/devices/$dev/vendor)
device=$(cat /sys/bus/pci/devices/$dev/device)
if [ -e /sys/bus/pci/devices/$dev/driver ]; then
echo $dev > /sys/bus/pci/devices/$dev/driver/unbind
fi
echo $vendor $device > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/vfio-pci/new_id
done


for $, do I fill in the blanks myself?
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>>52677708
Okay, I'm this >>52677764 anon, and I'm still having difficulty with my wifi. So far we've established that I have installed iwlwifi drivers and they're activated (checked with modprobe). iw dev gives same thing as linked. I found the option for wireless interface in wicd but it's empty and I'm not sure what I should put in it (not a dropdown, it's a text box). Finally, ip link set wlan0 up still seems to do nothing.
Could some kind anon please help me finish this off? I'm sure I'm close now.
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>>52680459

I think I'm going to stick with i3. It was a pretty solid experience.

Plank was nice, but I think putting in my own shortcuts and ricing out the i3 config will be best.

Going to nuke my old chroot and set a new one up tomorrow.
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>>52680498
Nice. Good luck.

Also, you probably already know this by now, but I3-gaps is a ricer's best friend. I've never tried it because I don't feel the need to rice my setup, but I've heard nothing but good things.
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>>52680482
>
for dev in "$@"

$@ refers to all arguments given on the command line

$ cat script.sh
#!/bin/bash
echo parameters: $@
$ ./script.sh one two three
parameters: one two three
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>>52680559

Thanks for the help
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>>52680596
$* makes more sense than $@
Why is $@ more common?
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>>52680596
a couple others for reference
% cat script.sh 
#!/bin/bash
echo parameters: $@
echo self: $0
echo first: $1
echo second: $2
% ./script.sh first second third
parameters: first second third
self: ./script.sh
first: first
second: second
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>>52680490
So I'm retarded. As soon as I put wlan0 into the wireless interface section of wicd, everything magically worked. Thanks to all the anons who helped me with this.

Incidentally, does anyone know of a good laptop battery monitoring program? I'd like something with a system tray icon, if possible.
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>>52680634
>>52680596

Okay, it wnats the output of
lspci -nn |grep -i nvidia
?
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>>52680636
tint2
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>>52680630
haven't looked into it, likely a very old desision, though
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>>52680636
upower -i $(upower -e | grep BAT) | grep percentage | sed 's/.*:\s*//'
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>>52680709
1 useless grep spotted
upower -i $(upower -e | grep BAT) | sed '/perc/!d; s/.*:\s*//'
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looks like it wants the pci device ID as see in /sys/bus/pci/devices/* that you want to use
>>
Why can't I install new software?

http://pastebin.com/3bUiju8X
http://pastebin.com/eaPu7VSz
http://pastebin.com/7nKKtaS7
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>>52680790
Okay, so since my devices are:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti] [10de:1380] (rev a2)
01:00.1 Audio device [0403]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:0fbc] (rev a1)

then;

#!/bin/bash

modprobe vfio-pci

for dev in "$@"; do
vendor=$(cat /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:01:00.1/vendor)
device=$(cat /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:01:00.0/device)
if [ -e /sys/bus/pci/devices/$dev/driver ]; then
echo $dev > /sys/bus/pci/devices/$dev/driver/unbind
fi
echo $vendor $device > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/vfio-pci/new_id
done


Is correct?
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>>52680829
looks like it's trying to install g15macro, but can't because g15daemon isn't configured
>>
>>52680867
>looks like it's trying to install g15macro, but can't because g15daemon isn't configured
How do I fix that?
>>
>>52680829
did you check the Ubuntu Wiki?
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>>52680865
it takes those numbers as command line arguments, like;
./script.sh 0000:01:00.0
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>>52680829
>dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
The same reason we told you last time you posted this
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>>52680894
...OH...

I'm supposed to run the script against the device IDs...?
>>
>>52680893
But I use Debian, I wouldn't know how to search my error on the wiki anyway. It's too big too google.
>>52680898
>The same reason we told you last time you posted this
Yeah, but what I do to configure it?
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>>52680907
from the looks of it

the idea behind arguments is that they are used as substitutes in programs/scripts

maybe this will help you understand more about what the script is doing;
% cat script.sh 
#!/bin/bash
for whatever in "$@"; do
echo hurr $whatever
echo durr $whatever
done
% ./script.sh thing other_thing
hurr thing
durr thing
hurr other_thing
durr other_thing


the script is clearly not designed to be edited, it takes its variables as command line arguments
>>
>>52680928
You learn what dependencies are and then try again
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>>52680951
Okay, got it

so I'll run
/usr/bin/vfio-bind 0000:01:00.0 0000:01:00.1
to bind them to Vfio!
>>
>>52680992
that looks about right
not sure if you need to bind the audio part seperately, but that's a question of how vfio works, not so much how the script works
>>
>>52681014
>not sure if you need to bind the audio part seperately
Well, okay, will the graphic portion still work?
>>
>>52681027
i'm not that familiar with vfio
>>
>>52681048
>i'm not that familiar with vfio
Alright, thanks.
>>
I use jpegoptim an optipng, now I need something for animated gifs.
>>
>>52681027
The GPU and audio controller are treated as separate devices on the same PCIe bus.
The audio device is a sub-device to the GPU and won't work without passing both through, but the GPU on its own will work fine.
Make sure you bind both devices to the vfio driver so they don't get hooked by the main graphics driver in your system.
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>>52681164
gifsicle?
>>
>>52681237
Will look into that, thanks.
>>
>>52681168
I mean, bind them at boot. If the main driver gets a hold of the device, there's a good chance it won't work.
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>>52681302
>I mean, bind them at boot. If the main driver gets a hold of the device, there's a good chance it won't work.
Okay. Also do you know if the default way of giving Qemu permissions is safe?

From the Wiki:

QEMU permissions

Give QEMU access to hardware (there may be safer ways of doing this):
/etc/libvirt/qemu.conf
...
user = "root"
group = "root"
clear_emulator_capabilities = 0
>>
I've currently got nvidia proprietary drivers with a nvidia card installed on arch, how much of a pain would it be to switch to a AMD card?
>>
>>52681401
For a home-gamer, root is fine.
Permission safety is more for a professional setup.
You can add specific permissions depending on what distro you are using.

>>52681465
Almost none at all. You just need to install the drivers for the AMD card. the nvidia drivers won't bind to an AMD card, so there won't be any conflicts.
>>
>>52681493
>Almost none at all
that's what I thought, I would just install the amd packages and leave the nvidia ones alone
>>
>>52680630
There is a difference.
$*    $1 $2 $3 … ${N}
$@ $1 $2 $3 … ${N}
"$*" "$1IFS$2IFS$3IFS…IFS${N}"
"$@" "$1" "$2" "$3" … "${N}"

Without quotes they are equal, but as you see "$*" expands to a _single_ word with IFS added as delim between parameters.
While "$@" quotes each individual parameter and keeps them separate.
Since you almost always want to quote your variables, especially positional variables, it's just better to always use "$@".
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>>52681493
>For a home-gamer, root is fine.
>Permission safety is more for a professional setup.
>You can add specific permissions depending on what distro you are using.

Great, I guess a simple firewall should be safe.

Qemu says "CPUs" as in Cores or Sockets?
>>
>>52681465
Why would you want an amd card?
Their support is fucking disgusting
>>
>>52681648
Both, as well as threads.

Read the documentation for it, it's quite good.
>>
>>52671385
several folders from / shouldn't be backed up, as they are simply mountpoints for other things
/proc for example, is empty on disk, and a virtual filesystem is mounted onto it during boot, its contents only exist while the kernel is running

use the -x argument to ensure rsync will only see files on the source filesystem (ignoring things mounted under it)


this was recommended to me last FLT but when I run rsync with the -x command it still tries to sync the poc and hangs. anyone else have any ideas I relay want to learn the ins and outs of making backups
>>
>>52681714
update as of now i'm just backing up the /home and /etc of my files system as that seem to me (a total noob) the only places i really need to back up I dont think this will back up all my programs but i can just install them back after a back up i guess.
>>
I'm thinking about using a USB stick to run Arch to learn linux. Is 16GB enough for a small setup?
>>
>>52681671
I thought that AMD had much better linux support
or at least that they actually cared
>>
>>52681758
AMD is contributing to a FOSS graphics driver stack.
>>
>>52681758
>>52681805
They contribute thats about all. Check the forums about the closed and open source driver issues.The only reason to go to ati open source is if you have absolutly no reason to do 3d rendering, at all.
How old is your nvidia?
Why are you getting rid of it?
>>
hey linux friends, newfag here, i am wanting to make a live usb distro of crunchbang but i cant seem to figure out how to do this, the only downloads on the crunchbangplusplus site use the debian installer AND require internet connection, which is not really an option for me since i am trying to use it on an old dell d6000

what do
>>
>>52681840
dell latitude d600*
>>
>>52681825
660ti, switching to a 5770
performance isn't as much of an issue compared to stability, I've had a lot of problems with nvidia's drivers
>>
I read this
https://github.com/seebi/dircolors-solarized
And i have absolutly no idea of how to proceed.
I need a db file for eval which i put in my sh file for loading.
Where the hell is the database
>>
>>52681865
you'll be dealing with radeon or fglrx.
Neither are very good.
R9 285/380/X
R9 Fury/Nano
are the only cards getting a FOSS stack.
>>
>>52681898
That said, I never had any problems on my HD4670 with fglrx legacy.
>>
http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/01/high-severity-bug-in-openssl-allows-attackers-to-decrypt-https-traffic/
>>
>>52681840
>crunchbangplusplus

Use BunsenLabs.
>>
>>52681570
Thanks, didnt know that.
>>
>>52682014
>OpenSSL maintainers release update that fixes key-recovery bug. Patch now.
>>
New thread:
>>52682246
>>52682246
>>52682246
>>
>>52682092
>BunsenLabs
tyty this is so good!!
>>
>>52681758
the free amd drivers are really solid

just uninstall the proprietary nvidia driver, and install xf86-video-ati
>>
so, whats the deal with linux and fonts? how the fuck i install TT fonts without doing the shitty double round of copying them to /usr/share/fonts and reassign permission with chmod?

i tried copy them to ~/.fonts/ as suggested by google but thats a no-no
>>
>>52683334
why is that a no-no?

if it doesn't need to be available to other users, then ~/.fonts/ is where they should be put
>>
>>52683369
because any font on ~/.fonts/ DOES NOT GETS PICKED BY ANY APP. its like is not even installed
>>
>>52683381
works for me
>>
>>52683431
oh i found this on the archlinux wiki.

"To install fonts for only a single user, use ~/.local/share/fonts (~/.fonts/ is now deprecated)."

works for my distro
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>>52683470
that's new, i still use ~/.fonts (also on arch)
guess i should move it over to ~/.local/share
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