>>52664019 Chrome/Google. Other companies would be able to fill the gap and add more variety to the browser and search market. Killing apple would leave Microsoft without any competition and they'd inevitably get shittier, and vice versa.
>>52664089 Google is really a hard choice for me. They're doing a lot of good scientific work in artificial intelligence creation and other fields, but they're very quickly gaining monopolies almost everywhere and this scares me very badly. I want to keep them around but I have no idea what the future will look like with them still here.
Apple makes shitty products, but they don't hurt people who aren't their customers.
Google spies on everyone and makes ads, but it's not that hard to escape if you use an adblocker, avoid Google products, and use NoScript. And they make some cool products.
MS introduces proprietary de-facto standards, deliberately sabotages free software, and makes almost no worthwhile products. They hurt the entire industry, not just their users. Killing them would result in Linux and free software taking over.
>>52664134 I wouldn't trust that graph, of course the people making more money would want the social status phone and of course the technical workers would want something they can have more control with
>>52664113 >artificial intelligence Given their business model and involvement in world affairs, this is not a good thing. Will be likely used tor social manipulation, if it isn't already. >https://wikileaks.org/google-is-not-what-it-seems/
>>52664113 >>52664019 I'd kill Google too. The only reason people aren't questioning their monopoly is because of all the research they still do makes them look like a young company even though they're almost 20 years old. Once the hype dies down, people will realize just how shitty they are.
Microsoft is pretty neutral these days. Not as monopolistic as the past, but their future is uncertain. Apple lost their edge once Jobs died because Tim Cook cucks himself to his investors instead of giving them the old Jobs "fuck you, I do what I want".
>>52664134 They're pretty much just sitting on their iphone cash and doing literally nothing but suing other people. Even Samsung is more progressive these days. Their products aren't even worth the hype. A chromebook is just as smooth if not better than a $3000 macbook. iPhones are so far behind the times that if Google ever makes some sorta break through with Android, then Apple will crumble into the wind and no one will be there to save them. They're pretty much 1980s/90s microsoft at this point.
I'm going with microsoft. I'd prefer it if they were only knocked down a few dozen pegs as far as market share goes because then they might actually have to compete to survive instead of building their botnets up, but I'll settle for killing them off entirely.
Whilst Apple and MS inevitably repel me with some of their choices, only Apple has succeeded in brewing a consistently irritating image of elitism, borderline retarded userbase, overpriced hardware and after the death of Jobs, absolutely zero creativity.
Google easily. Their influence is fucking everywhere and you pretty much can't escape their botnet unless you refuse to use the internet itself. And the worse part? They managed to convince fucking everyone that they are a great company who can do no wrong. Even /g/ is guilty of this.
Apple has a semblance of caring about data security. Google does half-assed job at making internet access better by fiber-raping ISPs. Microsoft consistently churns out shitty products with glaring security holes, and now they bait users with "free" os upgrades.
>>52665849 >web-enabled Spotlight sends data over the net when you explicitly search for web results >meanwhile Cortana tries to send your queries to Microsoft regardless of context gee anon, how come your mom lets you be doubly retarded?
>>52664340 >Apple - annoying, vain, tech ignorant userbase. >I use Google/Microsoft products, because I'm not a paranoid pedobeard. >>52664224 >only Apple has succeeded in brewing a consistently irritating image of elitism, borderline retarded userbase, >>52664340 >Apple - annoying, vain, tech ignorant userbase. >>52664386 >ikr. applefags cant even drink
Isn't it strange how Apple's USERS take such flack in a discussion about companies? Does being ignorant make us wealthy, or the other way around? And annoying? I can keep silent while you try to find the right drivers for your sound card, but you still know I'm there.
Alas, Apple's quality has deteriorated since the old days, but it is still solidly better than microsoft's. Microsoft doesn't have the power to be evil that it once had - but there is still no reason why people are paying so much money for the worst OS on the market. Google's power can be frightening, but I'm not aware of actual harm done from them. So I call for microsoft.
Apple is a company that sells stupid products to stupid people at stupidly high prices.
Microsoft is a bunch of monopolistic douchebags that are farming user information in order to serve ads in an increasingly desperate bid to finance their business long-term so that they can give the OS for 'free' in order to stay relevant.
Google is a company that literally has the slogan 'don't be evil,' yet keep acting like the heads of an Orwellian dystopia, and actually, legitimately seems to have the ambition of making that a reality by controlling the flow of information however they choose.
The worst thing Apple is doing is taking money from stupid people. The worst thing Microsoft is doing is stealing their users' information to serve them ads. The worst thing Google is doing is trying to do is to create a totalitarian dictatorship by means of total information control.
Apple. I like their products, but I do think that they're going downhill now that the fuhrer Jobs is dead.
Microsoft did a ton of shitty stuff in the 90s, and Balmer was a dipshit who let the company stagnate, but they do quite a lot of interesting research, and I really like what they're doing with C# and F#.
Google is a botnet player, but goddamn have they improved my quality of life in a lot of ways. Remember the Internet before the V8 JS engine in Chrome? Hell, Chrome was just all-around a fantastic leap forward, except for the shitty non-MRU Ctrl-Tab behavior.
>>52666213 They already have 90% of the mobile market, i.e. the exact same that MS has of the desktop market. Avoiding it is easy as shit. You can even use proxy search engines and maintain their level of functionality.
>>52664019 End of the day none of them are really "evil". They have products/services, and sell them or "trade" them in exchange for letting advertisers know you like CPUs and RAM instead of protien powders and JCPenney sales. The average social media tard that cries about this plasters all that info all over their FB and blog or whatever freely anyway.
If you want out, just don't participate. There's nothing Google/MS offers that there aren't alternatives for.
Apple on the other hand is pure cancer and needs to be cleansed from the earth. They are literally 90's MS right now, and they don't even try to hide it.
>>52666050 >You can't name even one Apple product that meets that criteria.
- Quicktime - Hypercard (Basically HTML in 1987 with local files.) - GUI (Sorry Xerox, it's not a product if you don't let anyone use it.) - Click wheel for iPod. (Apple took over this market by solving a problem that no one else understood we had.) - iTunes Music Store (First non-horrible online music store.) - Multi-touch interface. (Apple's ad taught you what reverse pinch meant.) - iPads (Tablets existed before this, but they were unusable without Apple's understanding of user interface.) - Long file names - 24 bit color - Retina displays. - Apple Desktop Bus (Precursor to USB in 1986) - Proportional Fonts - Antialiased Fonts - Fonts (In other words, WYSIWYG printing.) - Video/Audio/Image compression in the os.
But this misses an important factor about why Macs were better. I mentioned sound cards because they were such a mess on windows. You could buy a $500 sound card, only to have every program you use ignore it's abilities and give it nothing but 8 bits samples because that is what everyone else had. On macs, we had a single high quality system that everyone could use to it's full potential.
The mac was full of advantages that took a paragraph to explain, and so would be ignored by techies who looked at nothing but spec numbers. That is why nerds used windows, and people who knew how to dress themselves preferred macs.
Form a privacy perspective Microsoft has gotten worse than Google. Apple is doing relatively well. From a freedom perspective all are shit, Google has some open projects, Microsoft's open projects all have some double agenda bullshit tied to them. C# is patented and puts Microsoft in control of demolishing all open implementations. Apple doesn't care about freedom at all.
Microsoft's products are relatively most buggy and worst engineered.
Apple's products are extremely overpriced, Microsoft is extremely overpriced for businesses, but has shady business models for regular customers. Google only has shady business models.
They're all bad, but Microsoft absolutely the worst these days.
>>52666734 >Apple knows names and addresses, geographic locations and app and music-purchase histories Any online shop collects this data, its a side effect of operating the thing. Any fucking web server that keeps an access log can extract most of those information.
>>52666786 Thats what it does, it searches the internet and your computer for things.
>>52666781 >Literally no different from W10, except with W10 only MS spies on you, rather than both MS and Apple simultaneously. >haha LMAO smart argument xD Apple proxies those requests, BING doesn't know where the requests comes from.
>>52666734 >I don't know what relative is Name one type of data Apple collects which at least Microsoft or Google doesn't. All three collect your location, speech and search data. Google and Microsoft additionally do data mining on emails and browsing history. Microsoft additionally collect your typing input, encryption key, Facebook, LinkedIn and similar third-party data and removes installed software, forces updates.
Google's influence is so strong that removing them will literally set the world back for quite some time. At least until normies discover Bing (which will went fubar for a while with the sheer amount of new users)
Apple is, well, removing them doesn't really make a big difference. The sheer anal devastation will be worth watching, too.
Microsoft was undeniably evil, but now they're just trying to follow in Google's botnet ways.
>>52667630 It won't be actual consciousness, it will be a result of combining all data they've gathered, fed into deep learning algorithms, to be able to predict human action and that of individuals. Predicting what users are going to do next is very valuable.
While Google's botnet is pretty much cancer, I wouldn't kill them because their products are always pushing the technology forward, and a world without google search, chrome/chromium, or android would be a worse place to live in.
Since I don't use either Apple's products or M$ products I would not be affected by their dissapearance. If I had to choose, I would destroy Microshit cause they desperately push their shitty botnet at everyone's faces and none of their products are superior in their fields except for maybe office (shit OS, shit phoneOS, shit search engine, shit console, shit botnet)
Microsoft for sure, without a question. Their OS is an expensive piece of shit and they have held back innovation for years by purposefully avoiding proper standards. Even excluding ethical problems, I can't think of a single thing they've made better than the competition besides DirectX.
>>52664019 Google has their yesticles in everything, especially apple and microsoft. They are beginning to stifle the market by reaching beyond their original market. I like and use quite alot of their stuff in my day to day life.
I use microsoft windows just like most of the rest of the world. I liked apple when steve was still alive, but now that he is dead they have asshats at the helm and that is becoming painfully apparent. All three of them are into the whole "collect everyones private info and sell it to people who want to track and watch everything you do." I cant wait until it even tracks the people we have sex with, and samples each parties vodily fluids for.... reasons. Hell its gonna be funny when they put hardware and software into our toilets so they can track and find out what we eat.
All three are reprisentantive of "big brother" and i dont like it. I want the software that looks over my shoulder and tells on me, out of my stuff.
Apple. Killing Chrome is pointless without killing Google. Microshit i still need for vidya gaymes for my autism. Apple is just worthless. If i wanted to appear rich, i'd just buy a fucking Alienware which would at least be able to play video games unlike Appleshit.
>>52666702 >Form a privacy perspective Microsoft has gotten worse than Google. Holy shit people actually believe this. That's why Jewgle is legitimately dangerous. You all think they ''did nothing wrong''.
tough choice between MS and Google but i think removing MS could finally drive tech as a whole forward, we could finally use better file systems, forget the registry, go back to unix like as a whole, use other processor architectures and embrace choice. google is probably worse on a privacy standpoint though.
>>52668543 Google does a lot wrong, Microsoft just does more wrong.
Microsoft always has been more evil than Google, though. 90's Microsoft was the worst, Bill Gates was greedy and hated software hobbyism, Windows 10 just stresses that Microsoft will never be a good company. At least Google gives back to the advancement of technology, besides fucking it up.
Killing google would result in facebook filling the void quickly. I'm not exactly fond of google, but having a company like facebook getting ahead on all that shit scares me even more. I hate apple with a passion, but they aren't doing that well and killing them wouldn't do much but hipsters buying something else with their shekels. MS it is.
I don't think that i even need to voluntarily kill Apple. It's doing a fine job doing that by itself.
Since Steve Jobs died, Apple has lost the only man who had innate talent at understanding cultural values of the varying collectives that make up the whole tech field. Talent at understanding how to tackle certain circles with products.
He would have understood, for example, that the watch industry culture in relation to luxury and elegance values (values sought after by Apple) has a completely different definition from what Apple is capable of offering. That is to say, the sum of mechanical operation and old-school design (early 20th, 19th century) defines "luxury, style, and elegance." Apple would need to invent something truly revolutionary like a holographic projector operating from a watch in order to have any breakthrough. The Applewatch is just a fucking laughingstock that can only appeal to the middle class faggots who want to look "luxurious" but will only end up looking stupid in the eyes of people who truly value watches.
This however isn't what i'm getting at in regards to Apple killing itself. It can survive the watch industry blunder like a little prick to the finger. The real suicide comes from Apple tackling the car industry. Not even Microsoft would be stupid enough to attempt that. The car industry has even more stringent value sets that Apple doesn't understand, the monopoly is beyond what Apple is capable of contending with, the ruthlessness is beyond what Apple could ever meet even in the TV industry when it bailed when it found out how fucked up the TV industry is and the Cable company ruthlessness. More importantly, Apple fucking up in this sector can easily see most of its wealth evaporate.
I can't wait to see Apple fuck up in the car sector and the century old car manufacturer alliance picking at the carcass. The only reason Tesla somehow manages is because it operates under the rules of scientific management, completely different.
>>52666795 You literally pointed out that some of those are knockoff's of other people's products. >GUI (Sorry Xerox, it's not a product if you don't let anyone use it.) No but it is still a ripoff. >iTunes Music Store (First non-horrible online music store) But there were other music stores before it, so it's a knock off. >iPads (Tablets existed before this, but- stop right there, it's a ripoff. They improved on it, but it's an obvious knockoff Get rekt, shill.
Literally nothing would change in the PC market and the smartphone market would be dominated by android completely like windows dominates PC.
Now imagine if you kill MS. What would happen to the PC market? I imagine people who can afford id would go for macs but what about the rest? Chromebook inst good enough and linux its to hard for the majority of users, someone would have to step in quickly.
Similar on the smartphone market if you kill google. Some people would go for apple but those who cant are fucked. Windows phone resurgence maybe
Yes, in terms of possible damage google is the worst, followed by win followed by apple. but in terms of intention to do damage, windows beats apple beats google. Sure, maybe I have a google cock up my ass, but the way I see it is that google's got a reliance on public image- all advertising based. Google does good stuff because it looks good, and people will advertise with them. MS or Apple have no such checks, and MS could easily go build a botnet, and everyone would go join it anyway because they don't know how to function without the teat of windows
>>52671336 >You literally pointed out that some of those are knockoff's of other people's products.
People built airplanes before the Wright brothers did. But the Wright brothers were first because their plane took off. MacOS, iTunes, and iPad took off. Their predecessors crashed and burned. (That's why I didn't include the Newton, OpenDoc, Firewire, and others that I like.)
In any case, you asked for 1, I gave you 15, and you ignored 12. Meanwhile:
>>52666004 >Name three Microsoft products or technologies that weren't obvious knockoffs of someone else's products.
For Microsoft, we have two products suggested, and even your question is a failed knock-off of mine.
>>52674545 >In any case, you asked for 1, I gave you 15, and you ignored 12. I didn't ask for anything, I just point out faggotry where I see it.
>MacOS, iTunes, and iPad took off. And all of the above suck big sweaty balls. Why does itunes even exist anymore? It used to be a decent way to play and organize music but now it fails at even that, and what business does a music player have backing up phones and tablets? They need to scrap the whole thing. OS X is becoming as big of a botnet as Wangblows and you can't even download files on an iPad.
Google, easily They make NO good products or services, excluding search The only good things they do are things they bought and then ruined like YouTube They're greedy as fuck, making you pay to minimize fucking videos, a basic OS feature that's been around for decades And they're the biggest botnet around
Much too botnet. Really terrible products. Anything after they morphed linux on phones AKA android into iOS-looking creatures, it was just downhill. Google is a huge data collector in any event. Used to like them when they were actually a search engine.
>>52676322 Translate isn't much better than other translators Maps is pretty good, I'll give you that Gmail is shit because every address possible is taken and they refuse to add more domains Android is shit
First of all, Google is way worse than MS concerning privacy. Secondly, you conveniently forgot to mention that security is quite an important part nowadays. Apple seriously lacks in this category, often not fixing really terrible security holes for a very long time.
>>52674651 Too bad there is nothing "new" that Apple can do with the car industry that isn't already being tackled by Google and Tesla. Tesla being a science oriented company, meaning it's a company funded and subsidized in order to satisfy engineering and scientific advancement rather than returning quotas. Phones didn't have such a thing. Phones also never had a deeply ingrained value system that has been developed and stamped for a fucking century, unlike the watch and car industry.
Your whole point with that sarcasm is at the bottom of the toilet.
>>52685023 >First of all, Google is way worse than MS concerning privacy. Haven't noticed that Windows 10 collects more data than Google does? That Windows is an OS makes this even worse. Do you have ANYTHING to back up your claim? Google doesn't constantly collect your typing data, Google doesn't collect Facebook and LinkedIn data on their OS. Windows 10 is the real privacy nightmare here, makes Google look privacy friendly. >Secondly, you conveniently forgot to mention that security is quite an important part nowadays. That's mostly a Microsoft marketing fad aimed at businesses. On any modern OS there's minimal chance to get malware without user intervention.
>>52687144 Nigger Apple can survive with the phone perfectly fine so long as it starts increasing functionality while retaining its design philosophy, instead of reducing shit as time goes on. The same goes for the rest of the products. Do what you do best. Stick to Steve Jobs's diary.
Blackberry went to shit because they tried to go on a different path from their original philosophy that appealed to business people, and wasted lots of money in the process. They still have a chance to come back though, since Blackberry was also in the same position as Apple with shitloads of money.
Google because they're growing and it scares me. You can't even post to 4chan without either being paywalled off from the feature or letting google know you're doing it via captcha. (the main reason I don't post here very often anymore)
They have their hands in everything, souring it for profit, manipulating the user in whatever way they can. They buy so many startup so that if there is a good idea, they make sure it comes to fruition under their terms. It's really disgusting.
Microsoft's days of dirty tricks are more or less over, and while I'd like to see a world with just Free Software, it seems clear to me that the current greatest threat to freedom (of those three) is Google.
>>52664019 >kill one head another will grow in its place
Google still has the best crawlers and M$ muh gaymes. Apple just because I don't like them, I use none of their products or technologies, and beyond consumer gadgets they don't really have a direct or indirect influence on me, so I wouldn't miss them.
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