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>>52656418 here, I think I found the perfect spot for the teensy in this build

>Buyer's Guide:
http://pastebin.com/QJD7fSGU

>Where to Buy:
http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL

>FAQs:
http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp

Old thread >>52651763
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>>52663720
also memed
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>>52663720
top view
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>>52663860
Why is that keyboard unplugged and outside in a pile of stones?

That does not showcase its mechanical prowess in any way, shape, or form.
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>2 new /mkg/ threads
bumping this one because it was first
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>>52663880
its in its natural habitat
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Is there a particularly effective way of cleaning a keyboard that hasn't been maintained well? I have a lot of spare time as of late and I realized my Das Pro 4 is dirty as all fucking hell, but I'm not sure if pulling the caps and using cotton swabs is the best way to go about this.
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>>52663860
dank memes.
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>>52663860
How much would a keyboard like that cost?
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>>52663909
Interesting. My keyboards have always been on my desk. I've never seen one in the wild like that. I guess I'm just not looking in the right places,
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SP (Comptec) legends > Cherry legends
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>>52663945
Cheap 60% = $60-80
Pok3R (good 60%) $120
Custom keycaps: $80

So around $200 if you can find those caps, which would require a bit of hunting since they aren't in stock at any retailer - you'd have to wait for a potential remake or scour forum marketplaces.
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i wish my GANSS would hurry up, i want to know if I got memed or not
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>>52664056
This is what you should be expecting
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>>52664096
those can be replaced later
though they would have to be exceptionally bad
i've seen worse printing on massdrop memeboards.
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>>52663983
>2.25u r-shift
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>>52664096
I dont exactly get what is going on here. Is that a really bad thing on the keycaps or something? I am considering getting myself a brown switch that is ganss. My only concern is people saying that cherry mx are the worst among the brown switch types...
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>>52664399
There is no "good" brown. All nonclicky tactile switches are shit, it's an inherently flawed concept.
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>>52664584
Browns are serviceable, zealios are great. Also Topre is master race.
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>>52664655
>rubberdomes is master race.
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>>52664747
>>rubberdomes is master race.

I'm glad we agree.
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I just ordered a CM Storm Quickfire Rapid-i,
that's decent purchase right?

blue switches of course
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>>52663720
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Anyone know of any good bluetooth, tenkeyless keyboards? I want to use it with my Surface without taking up the USB slot.
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>>52664905
Sorry, if I'm going to spend over $100 on a keyboard, I want one that at least works better than one of the Logitech keyboards from Best Buy
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>>52665425
good thing it does then
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Is pic related true?
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>>52665719
>works well with mac
>no
>topre

????
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>>52665719
Can confirm brown is best of everything.
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>>52665719
No, and anyone who says one kind of switch is better for typing or gaming than another has no clue what they're talking about and you shouldn't listen to their opinion.

Also, anyone who says browns are good has no clue what they're talking about and you shouldn't listen to their opinion.
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>>52665815
That right its my opinion like that's your opinion. C;
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>>52665719
full blown retarded
key switch type and feel are completely separate things
spend time pressing down different membrane keyboards slowly
do you like the more tactile ones? or do you like the more linear ones?
if you like linear then get reds/blacks
if you like the bump, but want it to be quiet get browns
if you like the bump a lot, dont care if its loud, then get blues or greens
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>>52665858
>linear membrane
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>>52665805
That's not clears.

Enjoy your shit "bump".
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>>52665858
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, stop posting.

>linear membrane
Really now
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>>52665881
I bought browns cause I like them over clears. Thanks for your opinion though. Enjoy your clear switches.
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>>52665866
>>52665894
>he doesn't know the difference between membrane and rubberdome
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>>52665948
That's what I was getting at
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>>52665948
>he doesn't know membrane circuits are closed by the contact in the rubberdome

stop and hide yourself.
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>>52665233

In switch diodes?
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>>52665967
>he doesn't know membrane circuits are closed by the contact in the rubberdome
Literally everyone knows that, retard. You seem to be a step behind the rest if the people in the thread.
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>>52665382

Filco Minila Air is perfect size for surface.
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>>52665866
>>52665894
you have obviously never used a lot of non mechanical keyboards
some keyboards are more tactile than others.
im not saying that there are 100% linear keyboards, im saying that some membranes are more tactile
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I want to get the CODE keyboard.
I don't need advice on the switches, i'm going to get a tester for that.
Is it a good choice or am i getting memed?
Does anyone else have it?
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>>52666014
nice backpedaling faggot
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>>52665967
What.

There's no contacts in the rubber dome, membrane circuits are constructed by having two membranes sheets with a plastic sheet between them that has holes at the contact points. The rubber dome collapses and presses the contact of the upper membrane on the contact of the lower membrane.
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>>52666027
code is decent but Just get what ever works for you and don't listen to much to these memes.
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>>52666033
that's literally what he just said
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>>52666014
>still thinking that membranes are the same as rubber domes

First you should stop posting like I told you to. Then you should get your terminology right and last you should stop backpedalling like a faggot.
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>>52666033
>There's no contacts in the rubber dome
seriously go away
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>>52666048
He said that there's a contact in the rubberdome. Sounds quite different from what I said.
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>>52666033
>dubs of dumbness
That's not how a rubberdome works, brah.
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>/mkg/: we're not really sure how keyboards even work.
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>>52666052
Interesting. Every rubber dome + membrane keyboard I disassembled to date used dual membranes for the matrix like in pic related. I've only ever seen that kind of circuitry with a contact embedded in the rubber dome in a calculator.

I guess we should specify what kind of actuaction mechanism we are talking about in the future.

>>52666098
See above
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>>52666148
well maybe you should stop relying on limited experience and start listening to those with Knowledge.

I met TONS of rubberdome keyboards with those contacts.
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I have a Leopold fc660m and I want some new keycaps. I have no idea where to buy keycaps for this board since it has an odd amount of keys. I want letters too. I have blanks right now but I want letters back. Thanks.
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I hesistate between
> barebone tenkeyless WASD + PCB keycaps
> straight outta factory pok3r

Which one should I get if my main preoccupation is built quality and finger comfiness?
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can i take a membrane keyboards' keycaps and put them on a mechanical keyboard?
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>>52666240
no.
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>>52666239
PPPPPP-Pok3r gets my vote
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>>52666165
I've met MEGATONS of rubber domes which used dual membrane circuits.

Your statement that membrane circuits are closed by a contact in the rubber dome is just as invalid as my claim that they aren't. As we have concluded by now, there are various (at least two) types of membrane keyboard circuits. Perhaps we should specify this when talking about membrane circuits from here on.

Or go back to talking about mechanical keyboards in the mechanical keyboard thread.
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>>52666276
>Or go back to talking about mechanical keyboards in the mechanical keyboard thread.

But I use rubberdomes!
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>>52666293
What a coincidence, I too use rubberdomes.
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i heard that 60%'s and miami keycaps were gay
that aint true
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>>52666358
Nice floor fegget. Better have matching socks when they caps come.
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>>52666387
>nice floor
i thought gays were good at housework but my floor is still dirty

and i wish i could find some socks that match
like holy shit i need some
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I hve one of thise controllers. Can I change the one on my Ducky Mini with it since the Ducky is dead now.
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>>52665805

Can confirm this too.
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>>52666397
Ye u do feg
>>52666506
Thank my nigga best for everything.
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>not sporting a stormtrooper SSK
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Are pok3r just toys for gaymen or do you guy manage to be really productive with such minimalist keyboards?
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>>52666694
I make real nigga money with less keys than a pok3r so yes, you can be productive with one.
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>>52666387
not even the person you were replying to but.
literally the only way to have socks that match the miami caps is to have them custom made ;-;
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>>52666709
how do you up down arrow?
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>>52666732
>literally the only way to have socks that match the miami caps is to have them custom made ;-;
why do you spread lies?
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>>52666745
>how do you up down arrow?
this gets asked every thread.

Do you realize 4chan has archives now?
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>>52666745
with a special combination of 4 keys combined of course... like a real pr0 h4ck3r
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>>52666767
so ugly and unpractical it hurts to see... enjoy your 0.5 inch of saved space
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>>52666756
where ? I spent an hour looking for these yesterday.
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>>52666783
>I spent an hour
git fucking gud

I spent 30sec and I am not even a faggot

post photos when you get them
n-no homo

http://www.ebay.com/itm/310390358748?rmvSB=true
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>>52666756
where the fuck do i get them tell me right now
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>>52666825
I posted the goddamn ebay link, you homo
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>>52666793
im gonna get them when i can
tfw no cash atm
will post pics when i get them. along with the keycaps when they come inna mail
>>52666838
i see now
i didn't scroll down cos i was excited
aaaaaaaaaaaaa
socks
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>>52666793
>post photos when you get them
why do you think I'm getting miami caps in the first place.
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>>52666851
I was speaking to the sissy.
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>>52666851
so you can be like me


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>>52666860
this faggot knows
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>>52666871
i am so pissed that i don't have money

motherfugger
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>>52666860
>matching blue and pink cable

daddy's got a reward for you :3
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>>52666890
its all gonna be matching soon
just u fuckin w8
>reward
paypal me all ur life savings
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>>52666896
>paypal me all ur life savings
I was thinking about a good old dicking but I see you're just a greedy whore.

I regret linking you the ebay sale now.
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>>52666912
that's sweet and all but i don't want a dicking
i am in a relationship
so your lifes savings will have to do instead
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>>52663720
The but what do the switches on the bottom of ducky one do
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>>52667582
Fake and gay.
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Needs:
1. Quiet
2. Works well with Mac
3. Preferably 10KL
4. Not a meme board

Any recommendations m8s?
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>>52668346
>1. Quiet
check
>2. Works well with Mac
check
>3. Preferably 10KL
check
>4. Not a meme board
ahahahah go away
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>>52668387
Everyone is recommending this it feels like a pump and dump by shills, are they actually good boards? They seem a little overpriced
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>>52668410
>it feels like a pump and dump by shills
a lot of the photos are amateurish as fuck.

We are all happy (lol) owners.
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>>52668428
fuck it, hold my hair mom i'm going memeing
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should i fall for the topre meme?
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>>52668410
they do feel like shit, but i guess what they feel like is personal.
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>>52668483
>should i fall for the topre meme?
they hold 99% resale value, so it's a pretty safe try even if you end up not liking the meme.
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>>52668483
Gateron/zealios meme is the best tbf
with clipped cherry stabs
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>>52665805
> wolf

"In this version of the Overgrowth demo 197 we are going to talk about..."
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Whatsup/mkb/
Im looking to buy a new keyboard to replace my 7 yearold $5 logitech. My only rewuest is that its backlit, preferably orange to match my build but that doesnt really matter. I dont care about mechanical keyboards so anything will do in the $30 range. Just want something that looks good and is reliable, the only reason im replacing my current keyboard is because i dont want to work with a lamp on at night all the time.
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>>52668346
>Not a meme board

Just give up and get a HHKB type s
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>>52668594
>type s
now that's a meme.

regular one sounds better and it's already quiet.
type-s sounds too muffled
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>>52668592
>$30 range
You're a funny guy.
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>>52668609
>regular one sounds better
I don't think that's a popular opinion.
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>>52668592
You're in a thread where 50$ keycaps are considered a poorfag choice.
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>>52668649
I can only judge this halfway since I have the regular one and my experience with the type-s stems from typing test videos, but I prefer the regular one.

Especially the thock on the upstroke. It sounds so fulfilling.
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>>52668592
get some membrane shit from china.

Decent mechanical keyboards start in the 70 bucks range, 50 bucks if you're lucky or go the absolutely cheapest shit.

And you should learn to touch type.
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could anyone point me to where i can purchase some keycaps for my hhkb
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>>52668919
ebay.

not joking.
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hey /mkg/, I have a question here. I need quieter typing but still love my Blacks, so I plan to get O-rings. But I might also consider a desk mat. Should I do both, or is one more effective than the other?
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>>52668934
okay. thanks
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>>52668935
put a towel under it and be the judge of the difference.

if massive, buy pad.
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>>52668502
Where do you resell them ?
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this just arrived in the post

mx clears are perfect <3
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people that buy artisan keys are stupid and gay
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>>52669018
>Where do you resell them ?
here
ebay
local classifieds
deskthority
geekhack
reddit

just be sure to mention they are perfect for gaming
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>>52669066
>just be sure to mention they are perfect for gaming
This. Nothing I buy has this but everything I sell does. Things cost less and are able to resell for more than they would otherwise.
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>>52668944
Alright, just tried it. It made a difference. I wonder if mine was a question frequently asked. Good advice regardless, ty.
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>>52663870
Looks like the old radioshack keyboard.
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I need a suggestion /g/:
>I'm looking for a keyboard without a numpad or smaller
>It doesn't really matter if it's mechanical or not
>It needs to be black anf have blue leds
>prefferably under 100$ if possible

Its not for me, I wouldn't swap my model m for any keyboard right now, but a friend of mine has a real nice all blue themed setup and is looking for a keyboard.

Anyone?
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>>52666397
i love u
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>>52669585
Gee, if only there were some kind of keyboard with blue lights. I mean, blue lights are so unpopular.

Here you go
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=883
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>>52669585
I've got a few suggestions, but they usually only have green LEDs kappa
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>>52669716
wait... so does this keyboard have green leds on the left and blue ones on the right or can you control the color?
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>>52669686
#gay
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>>52669947
You can switch between the two. I don't know what other backlight features it has, I just picked something with blue backlight out of which I heard good things.
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>>52669546
Its from a TRS-80 model 100
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>>52669985
Wow, nice! The price is ok as well.
Thanks based anon
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Having a nice keyboard is nice and all, but having a good connection is important, too.
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>>52670190
what are you on about
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>>52670281
Oh you know. 230 down.
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>>52666240
Maybe on a HHKB
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ayyyyyyyy
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granite elven kit for ergodox
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>>52670393
Stay strong brother
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Friendly reminder that topre users are cucks.
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>>52670477
>>52670393

why do you guys need so many sets?
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are those granite sets made out of actual metal
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>>52670513
The actual kit + text modifiers
ISO Enter
International kit
To that I added Bonus, Blank, Mono and color text modifiers for flexibility
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>>52670484
>I am so poor and jelly I need to post this EVERY THREAD to try and find some solace

what's your paypal m8, I'll send you some $10


>>52670513
>why do you guys need so many sets?
I don't even have a cherry board.
this is the last granite run, I will sell them for 150$ a set in 2017
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>>52670546
oh i thought you guys were gonna resell them on ebay or something for a profit
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>>52670551
>this is the last granite run
there's no guarantee of that
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>>52670554
I could resell many parts of the international pack to other nationalities I guess. But no I want to use them
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>>52670556
>there's no guarantee of that

oi vey!!!
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Why don't companies mass produce these popular kits and just sell them regularly?
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>>52670600
because it won't be a meme anymore bro
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>>52670600
your customers are limited to the amount of people who:
>own mechanical keyboards
>are not 12 year old gamer faggots
>browse reddit/deskauthority/geekhack/etc.
it's such an incredibly niche market that most of their stock would gather dust because most people have no interest for high quality keycap sets
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>>52670600
>massproducing niche items with low demand
it's like you want to lose all your money
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>>52670600
>mass produce
literally not enough buyers.

an ISO mold for pbt is $5000.
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>>52670648
The producers should get together and have a Massdrop for ISO molds
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>>52670004
Figured as much. I donated my old Model-III to my local uni a few years ago. It still cracks me up when I look at old pictures of the thing.
Honestly, I'm not a fan of the keyboard. It had issues with sticking and seemed impossible to fix. It really didn't seem to age well.
The keycaps themselves are T-mount alps compatible. I'd just use a separate plate/switch and wire up the teensy to that. You won't have to deal with any of the issues of the old pcb, nor bypass the onboard controller. Additionally, you could add keys from the Model-4, like the arrow cluster.
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>>52670551
Matt3o specifically said that this won't be a guaranteed "final run". Each of his other GBs were stated that it was the final run, so I sincerely doubt that this is the last Granite run.
Additionally, you'll have an easier time buying R3 sets around the beginning of April, as people start selling their older sets more often because they're worried about the resale price dropping.
More or less, Granite's not going to maintain the same price. I bought one of everything specifically to sell on April 18th (or whenever MD decides to ship it) to the people who missed it, but by the time Batch #2 ships, the price isn't going to hold.

Frankly, I think the only set from the most recent Granite drop that will hold any value is the Sindarin set, since less than 300 were sold.
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>>52670632
>high quality keycap sets
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>>52666732
you must look harder bb <3
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>>52670569
>round 4 of a one-and-done set
>already hinted at a round 5
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>>52671110
there's an anon that literally posted an ebay link so.
now we just wait for the keyboard caps and socks so that I can be a huge meme too just like the other bst shitposters :^)
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>>52671133
oh noes im going to have more competition!
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>tfw you will never buy a hhkb because you can't pick a fucking color.
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>>52671305
>not buying all of them
what are you poor?
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Buying my first mechanical, should I get a CM Storm QuickFire XT or spend an extra $50 on a WASD V2 104-Key?
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>>52671441
do you need the numpad?
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>>52671305
White. Blank.
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>>52671477
yeah, i find it very useful.
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>>52671514
why are you buying a gamer keyboard if you're an accountant?
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>>52671533
*economist

>gamer keyboard
don't imply.
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>>52671575
do your fellow "economists" also have gamer keyboards at their desks?
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>>52671598
no, everyone uses the stock keyboard that comes with the pc.
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>>52671687
i hope you're not actually buying your own work equipment
ask your company to buy you a mechanical for work
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>>52671734
they'll pay for it, i just want to know which one i should go for. besides, i also want one for home use.
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>>52671748
then I suggest you aim a little higher
get a filco
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>>52671766
which one would you recommend? mx blue switches, us layout, full size?
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>>52671305
Black. Blank.
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>>52671826
ok, this makes things more difficult
I highly recommend you visit a store that has mechanical keyboards, go out of your way if you have to.

Most people seem to like browns/blues, but I personally hate tactile bumps and went with reds.

Don't fall for the switch tester thing, it's not a good representation of what a keyboard will actually feel like.
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Postan my cheap Topre with cheap but thick PBT. Still waiting for some group buys to ship.
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>>52672248
i really really like your filco tkl
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>>52672248
What caps are those?
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>>52672248
How do you like it m8?
Are you the one who got it recently and said it felt mushy?

- typed on my memekb
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>>52672293
>filco
>Topre

>>52672311
Vortex keycaps. Not perfect but still thicker than most.

>>52672449
Pretty good. The price of the ISO Novatouch really dropped where I am so I snagged it new for about $110.
Feels awesome, has all the keys I need at home, makes little noise and still lets me use normal keycap sets. It's what Cherry Browns should be but aren't.
I'm sure 1st party Topre might feel slightly better but I'm satisfied for now.
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anybody know how to fight wrist strain? i switched to my apple alum. keyboard (chiclet) and realized that i get it bad on my mechs. i dont bottom out at all when i type and im using really light switches. is it the key travel that causes this strain?
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What's the cheapest blue switch keyboard I can get without sacrificing quality? Don't need extra bells or whistles and I do not want a TKL keyboard. I have a budget of $150 and ideally I would like to buy two keyboards (one for work and one for home)
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>>52672764
I bottom out 100% of the time and have never used a wrist rest or pad or whatever they're called.
I do the same on my laptop and experience no fatigue whatsoever.
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>>52672764
If the key travel is causing it you would probably feel something in your fingers/hand too.

Think about your posture and how you've placed your keyboard. You shouldn't have to angle your wrists much at all when typing.
Your hands should be pretty straight in relation to your arm, just move your arm instead. Full size keyboards require more extreme angles because of the added distance to the mouse.
Resting your wrists while typing is really bad.
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Do keycap sets usually come with a couple of keys that have the bumps/indentations on F and J? Even blank sets?
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>>52663910
I use a paint brush. If you have crusty or stick stuff, you'll have to get in there with some cleanser probably on a q-tip. Cleaning the caps is tedious no matter what, though.
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>>52673118
Yes, just about every set of keycaps I've had my fingers under so far, be it on a membrane keyboard, stock keycaps of a mech or aftermarket keycaps, had those markings on F and J.

Except for this old apple extended keyboard. That one has bumps on D and K. Literally what the fuck apple.
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>>52673172
>D and K
I mean, I could see it if the index wasn't the standard since typewriter days. Middle fingers are significantly longer and hit the keys first.
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>>52669018
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/
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>Do keycap sets usually come with a couple of keys that have the bumps/indentations on F and J? Even blank sets?
Yes except dsa sets that just have deeper concavity on them.
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About to pull the trigger on a Poker 3 with MX Green switches and nordic layout.

Is that /mkg/ approved?
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>>52673284
This is the hhkb thread.

Are you lost?
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>>52673284
poker3 is reddit's mascot kb it seems like.
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>>52673284
>he wants to pay extra for a keyboard with fewer buttons
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>>52673284
I don't know why you'd ever get some niche layout like that, but if you do, a pok3r is a good choice since it comes with good keycaps right off the bat.

Greens are very nice switches. I'd have gotten my keyboard prior to this with greens weren't they so loud.
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>>52673101
i dont rest my wrists on anything but i usually type sitting up in my bed with my keyboard on the mattress. ive been doing that a lot this semester. i try and keep my wrists straight but it always feels like i need to find a way to angle my keyboard. i guess i should start using my desk more often.

i might grab that ergodox if it makes a big enough difference but ill see if using the desk helps.
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Are switch testers worth it or should i directly get the keyboard i want
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>>52673661
just buy a bunch of different keyboards with every switch type from amazon and return all the ones you don't like
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>>52673605
That sound very wrong.

Post picture of you typing on mattress with stockings and panties
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>>52673688
well i only need to know the difference between mx browns, reds and clears since they're the only kind of switch i can get in my country.
Maybe i should just buy 3 separate switches?
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>>52673661
Depends on how certain you are about your choice of switches and on how much the keyboard costs.

I'd say if it's your first keyboard and an investment over 100 bucks, get a switch tester. If it's less than a hundred bucks and you're certain, just get it. Chances are you'll like your first mechanical keyboard a whole lot more than whatever you had before. I liked browns for quite some time before they started annoying me, by the time of which I was ready to move on to my next keyboard (about three month).

If you want your first keyboard to be a long term investment, get a switch tester, or do what anon said and get all three through amazon and return the ones you don't like.

Since your choices are browns, reds and clears, that just leaves you with two keyboards to order. You can skip the browns, clears are the superior version thereof.
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>>52673725
You're lucky since 2 out of those 3 are complete and utter shit.

Get clears.
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>no arrow keys
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>>52673763
what's the difference between clears and browns? I just need something lighter than a shissor switch
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>>52673763
I beg to disagree.

My second keyboard was a keyboard with clears and they're certainly my favorite mx switch to date. I tried reds on the switch tester and I hated them.

And then I tried them on a friends pok3r and they actually felt damn nice on a proper keyboard. I'd have to try them more to deliver a proper judgement, but I think linears are actually quite nice if you have them on an actual keyboard.

That being said, browns do indeed feel like shit.

>>52673815
Browns have a weak tactile bump and feel like reds with dirt in them.

Clears have a long and far more pronounced tactile bump. After the bump they become a whole lot heavier. I really like the way this feels, but if you want something light you should go for reds. Clears are the very opposite of "light".
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>>52673769
most 60% keyboards have them through a function key. I got used to it pretty quick

I would argue it's more efficient since you don't need to move your fingers from the home row
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>>52663989
i think the caps would cost a lot more due to them not being anywhere except for from people selling them at super high prices
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>>52673898
I love having the arrow keys on home row. It's so much faster for when I only need to move a couple spaces.

I've gotten too used to it though and when I move to my laptop I forget and keep toggling caps-lock.
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>>52665425
all topre keyboards have a pcb. it will be as good as literally any other mechanical keyboard. the only difference is that the "switch" is not literally mechanical.
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>>52673661
The only two cherry switch types worth owning are red and blue, and since you don't want blue, you have to get red. Brown and clears fucking such. Clears are slightly better than browns but still worse than every single other switch. Clear is like a circumcised blue. It's basically the same thing but not as satisfying and you'll always feel like something's missing.
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>>52673973
>is not literally mechanical
technically, every switch that you press is mechanical.

Though we've had this discussion at least five times by now.
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>>52674017
well i know that. thats why i didnt use the word technically. also why i quoted the word switch
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>>52673725
My local NCIX has a free to use switch tester. You should see if any computer enthusiast stores have some.
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>>52673314
probably the result of hanging around /r/MechanicalKeyboards for too long, desu. Their search is comfy.

>>52673407
Nordic is the standard where I live. It's actually not very handy in general, but all computers have it, and I like not having to peck when using any other computer.

>>52673306
>topre

>>52673380
yes

Thanks guise.
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>I hate when the discussion becomes completely abstract and metaphorical.

>I am okay at offering the Granite indefinitely, there are simply no viable ways! I do not like Massdrop model and TMK is even a worse option.

>. 7bit offered his help once, but with all the love I have for the guy, I don't want Granite to sink into the temporal vacuum of his group buys.

>So, as of now, it's not that I don't want to run Granite again, it's just that I can't.

>Apart from that. Organizing the GB, designing new kits (do you think the Elven kit was easy to design?!), synching with SP, replying to questions on 3 forums takes out a lot of time. And if I do that for Granite, I cannot do that for new projects. So yes, of course I think we should move on.

- sent from my Matt3o
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>>52666031
>>52666051
>do you like the more tactile ones? or do you like the more linear ones?
>more tactile ones
>more linear ones
how is that back pedaling you fucking autists?
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>>52674127
>11 hours later still mad he got told
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>>52665985
nope, you can see the diodes have separate solder points and are labeled.

after getting some sleep I realized I wasn't happy with the wiring job I did. The wiring is redone now and it definitely wasn't a waste of time. Looks much neater and the pin numbers on the pcb match up with the pin numbers on the teensy now
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>>52674304
im sorry I went to sleep
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>>52663979
>this guy doesn't know keyboards are hunted in the wild by chinese workers before being packaged for use
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>>52674421
Damn dude, your hauling ass on this thing.
I'm really wanting to do this once I find one of these boards.
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Going through TaoBao for a new case and stumbled upon this bizarre plate. If I had to guess, it allows you to PCB-mount your alphas while simultaneously plate-mounting your mods. Pretty strange looking plate.

Does anyone have any experience using one of these, or is it just some manufacturer trying to sell a defective plate?
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Has anyone ever seen a cable that goes directly from USB A to PS/2? as in, no adapter required? My CM mech has a USB A for some dumb reason...not that any other USB would be easier to find.

How hard would it be to roll my own?
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Hiya, want to buy a mechanical keyboard, interested in buying a unicomp keyboard.

Are unicomp keyboards a meme?
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>>52674564
Any keyboard that costs more than 30 bucks is a meme.

Go type on your laptop keyboard or get some logitech rubber dome if you want to evade memes.
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My work has given me a budget to buy a meme keyboard for myself.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vortex-KBC-poker-Mechanical-Backlight/dp/B00TIM6AW8/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1454015429&sr=1-1&keywords=KBC+poker

Anyone got on views on this?
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>>52663983
nice keycaps.
where can I get them?
just got into mechanical keyboards :3
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>>52672798
Would this suit my needs?

http://www.amazon.com/Tt-eSPORTS-Poseidon-Illuminated-KB-PIZ-KLBLUS-01/dp/B00HZE2PJS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1454010316&sr=8-1&keywords=mechanical+keyboard+blue+switch
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>>52674590
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>>52674564
Unicomp is kind of shitty in terms of materials.
You're better off to just find a real model M in good shape.
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>>52674500
I believe that the model 100s are fairly common. I got one for 60 Canadian pesos shipped in leather case with manual, in non working condition due to lower supply issues. At one point someone modified it to use 256k of memory and put a new rom in it. Fixed it, runs great as a terminal though serial. As for the teensy code for the keyboard, someone already has it online.
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>>52674647
That's good, but do yourself a favor and get something else than browns.

>>52672798
Get two cooler master keyboards. And I'm quite sure you don't want a keyboard with blues for work unless you want to fear getting poisoned every time you drink a coffee.
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What's the hivemind opinion on WASD keyboard w/ mx clears?
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>>52674777

I'm in IT management and do a lot of typing for my job so not really a code monkey, what do you suggest?
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>>52674970
Depends on what your needs are.

Which parts of your current keyboard do you use? Do you use the numpad? If yes, get a fullsize.

Do you use the function row and the arrow keys a lot? Get a TKL.

Do you use the function row and the arrow keys semi-frequently? Get an HHKB (Or any other 60%).

Cooler master has a good lineup of entry level keyboard which don't cost too much. Take a look at that if you want to keep your budget within 150 bucks while buying two keyboards.

mechanicalkeyboards.com is also a good place to look around, they don't have everything in stock, but their catalog is huge and they have a good search function too.
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>>52675027

Thanks for that, after looking I think the TKL ones look the best.

I do like the HHKB and Vortex 60% ones but I have a massive desk and do use the function and arrow keys quite a bit.
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>>52668630
>>52668685
>>52668745
Im not asking for a mechanical keyboard, i only want some keyboard that has a backlight and looks good for ~$30. I dont see a reason for owning a mechanical keyboard and there is no subreddit on this board dedicated to just keyboards.
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>>52675246
This thread isn't dedicated to membrane based keyboards either. I could recommend you mechanical keyboards, but those all start at 70 bucks.
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Where can you buy PCBs and cases? 60 or TKL
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>>52675407
Geekhack groupbuys, mechanicalkeyboards.com and massdrop. Perhaps some other places that I'm not aware of.
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I love my T420's keyboard and I'm looking for a desktop keyboard, are there any mechanical switches with such feel or I'm better off getting one of those standalone Thinkpad keyboards?
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>>52675421
Thonks will search
I just bought some Zealios and would be cool to build a board from "scratch"
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Man, keyboard autism has come a long way since I bought my Filco Majestouch.
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>>52675468
Tell me about it anon.

I easily spent more than 500 bucks on keyboards and keyboard related goods in what is less than a year ever since I got my first keyboard.

It feels strange to think back and realize that I once thought that spending 70 bucks on a keyboard already overdoing it.

>>52675439
Building a keyboard is a lot of fun. Though it's unfortunately often more expensive than just buying a fully assembled one.
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>>52675551
I already have 7. The money train has already sailed :3
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>>52675560
post pictures please
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>>52675573
7th at work
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>>52675681
>ISO

I feel for you.
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>>52675698
what's wrong with ISO?
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>>52675714
Much of the market is ANSI-centric
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>>52674777
>Guy who sits behind me uses a Ducky Shine 4. >Guy next to him uses a Cherry G80-3000.
>Guy on other side of him uses a Razor Blackwidow
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>>52675714
Nothing wrong with ISO, I just feel for you because my first board was also ISO. Then I noticed how ANSI centric the market is and switched to ANSI. There are so little nice keycap sets in ISO.
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>>52675766
>Guy who sits behind me uses a Ducky Shine 4
Does that guy browse the /mkg/ too by any chance?

I recall someone here talking about his colleagues love his Shine 4 and that one of his colleagues had a razer blackwidow.
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>>52675796
I'm the same guy. I let him type out an email using my ducky and now he wants a mechanical but 1) We don't really have time to shop at work and 2) He's kind of a cheap skate
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>>52675771
I have no big problem with ANSI (as you can see I have one ANSI)

The biggest thing is that the meme-button (>) disappears so I have to rebind it to another button (also keycaps)

The fucker who decided that "no we shall not have ONE international standard" should be shot imo
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>>52675908
I see.

Cooler master is about as cheap as it gets with good entry level keyboards.

>>52675940
Why didn't you switch to ANSI earlier on though?

A friend of mine is a programmer and once tried ANSI only to find that he's going to stick with ISO since it's in his muscle memory and learning to use ANSI would be crippling. But if you don't have a problem with ANSI I'd just switch to that completely. Looks more aesthetic and your options for aftermarket keycaps and keyboard building stuff become so much larger than if you're restricted to ISO.
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>>52676118
Well I like ISO better and yes muscle memory is still ISO
and if I buy keyboards from the store they're gonna be ISO

I'm just gonna learn to use both
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>>52675367
You can recommend me some mec keyboards. Let's say around 100 dollars.
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>>52676166
Take a look at the cooler master lineup of mechanical keyboards. They have a good selection of entry level boards. You can get LED color changers (small pieces of plastic that clip over the LED under the keycap) to change a keyboard with white LEDs to orange too.
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>>52676204
>http://pastebin.com/QJD7fSGU
Interesting, scrolling through the guide now too. Mechanical, from what I read, sounds nice and most are pretty to look at. Thanks!
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>>52676268
The guide is a bit outdated so you may want to ask here before fixating yourself on any of the stuff there.

Enjoy your new obsession, it's a fun one.
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>>52676318
Thank you, when I find something to my liking, I'll ask.
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>>52663880
A E S T H E T I C S
but really what >>52674497 said

>>52663924
same senpai

>>52663945
Poker2(80 on sale)
metal case(70 on massdrop)
caps(79 on PMK)
sold them off already though for how much I paid for them. I'm not an asshole like most people.
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>>52665719

Don't listen to all the spergs out there saying it's incorrect.

Apart from the Matias/Topre choice I'd agree with most of what is said there.

>>52665793
For the simple purposes of the flowchart it's saying that the Matias Quiet would be better with a Topre board, I'm assuming for the keymappings.

AFAIK a HHKB works as well on a Mac as it does any other computer

>>52665805

Browns are a good starting point but they're just not tactile enough.

>>52665815

I disagree. You wouldn't game with buckling springs. Topre is exceptional for typing but feel a bit disjointed while gaming.
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>>52676479
I was worried clears would be TOO tactile, but they're just right for me. I can't imagine what browns are like
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>>52676479
you don't game with BS because 2nkro silly. CS 1.6 and CSGO with blues and its fine. people are crazy.
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>>52676532

Clears are really nice apart from the fact that a) they fit too tightly on keycaps and b) they feel scratchy.

I'm hoping a set of Zealios will fix that problem.

Going to be building a board with them; will be my first MX in a while. Been using a HHKB for the past few years at work, and a FC660C at home.
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>>52676571

>2kro

Fixed.

Blues are fine for gaming, agreed. I'd rather have clears/Zealios though.
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>>52675681
Aye, it's carpet-bro! Digging your collection man. I could've sworn you had 2 HHKBs total, and that you received your 2nd a few weeks ago.
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A friend offered to sell me his mechanical keyboard for $70. I told him I'd think about it; not sure if I can haggle, but I'm going to try.

I tried it out and it felt great. Apparently the switches are Cherry MX Blue. He said it was a Ducky Shine 2 and didn't say anything else about the model. He said he bought it for $120. It has some neat light-up features for the keys but other than that it's nothing special; it connects via USB(unsurprisingly). He said it's been used for almost a year.

I have a keyboard that connects via PS/2 connected to my computer right now. It's a regular rubber dome keyboard and there's nothing wrong with it. If I had the choice, I would prefer a keyboard that connects via PS/2 in comparison to USB, because the PS/2 one functions without drivers, and is more reliable, and I figure it reduces input lag very slightly.

What do you think? What is it worth? Should I buy it?
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I'm thinking about getting a coolermaster rapidfire and then some colored keycaps

thoughts? are aftermarket keys generally shit?
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>>52676591
>i'd rather have clears
me too anon, me too.
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Been using a Model M for quite sometime, is it worth it to replace the springs with new ones?
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>>52677066
No, there's no benefit.
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>>52677432
Someone is gonna say you should have gotten ganss
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>>52674501
That's super odd.

What does a machine translation of the page say?
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>>52676673
Bit high. You can get a new QFR for that price.

>>52676713
>thoughts?
It's generally a good way to go. The QFR is made by a good OEM and is fine aside from the legend font.

>are aftermarket keys generally shit?
Depends on what you get. WASD is shit, for example. You can get in on the enjoypbt GB now on geekhack - $35 for a set of blanks. Some of the best caps out there.
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>>52677673
>Bit high. You can get a new QFR for that price.

Maybe I'll offer him 60 then. I don't want to go above 65 though. I don't know much about mechanical keyboards, but QFRs don't seem like they even offer a number pad or the fancy light up keys; that mechanical keyboard lets you change what keys light up, what colors, how fast they change color, if they change color, all that jazz.

It makes sense that it'd be expensive.
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>>52676620
u must be thiking of someone else, only memebrane I have is the Novatouch
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>>52676402
how dank are you though?
>>52676479
They are more quiet then rubberdomes at my school lel.
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>>52663870
Badass dude.
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To anyone with a bunch of keyboards:

How do you justify having so many? Do you use them all/swap them around?

I just bought a HHKB Pro 2 to take to work when I graduate this April - I already own a quickfire rapid w/ browns and a pok3r II with blues that I haven't used much in like the 2 years I've had it.

I really like all sorts of switches and typing on them, but I can't really imagine having more then 2 or 3 keyboards as it's really annoying switching between keyboards constantly.
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>>52678355
I have one mech that's it. The res are either rubber dome or a k120. Just have them for extra computers.
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Looking for a new Keyboard:
Full size
Brown Switches
Leds cool, but not needed
Would prefer build quality and feel over flashy features?

Best option?

Ducky One?
Ducky Zero?
MK 2016?
CODE?
WASD V2?
Quickfire XT?

I don't know if there is a stand out option at the 100-120 range.
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>>52678006
>QFRs don't seem like they even offer a number pad or the fancy light up keys
Both detriments to my mind, but whatever.
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>>52678221

Browns are silent, but you haven't experienced silent until you use Topre with silencing rings.

I'm talking the Type-S rings or the clones that Hypersphere made.

Other than my space bar (whose stabiliser desperately needs a lube and re-alignment) the board is dead quiet.

Other than actually purchasing the HHKB it's the best mech keyboard purchase I've made so far.
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So I'm waiting for all of the following:

- Round 5/6
- Green Jelly POM
- DSA POS keys
- Salmon Alps

And I'm looking at ordering half a dox from falbatech. Somebody please send help.
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>>52678355
You don't really have to justify it, if you're spending your own money.
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>>52678547
No number pad? I guess you've never had to type in a lot of numbers. It's super useful when you're working with a lot of numbers
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>>52678755
I have an external numpad at home and an 1800 at work.
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>>52664905
That looks atrocious
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>>52665816
theme name?
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>>52677432
You should've gotten ganss
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So what do the switches under a ducky one do?
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>>52678771
So why is having a numb pad on the keyboard bad?
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>>52679016
They switch.
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>>52679195
Makes the keyboard too wide.
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>>52679275
>I spend $400 a year on keyboards so I can buy a $60 desk
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>>52679305
Desk size is irrelevant to what I am talking about.
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what keycaps should i grab for my cm storm quickfire rapid-i?

it's the black TKL one with backlights.


is banggood reliable?
also wtf is POM? i understand PBT and abs but i have no idea about pom
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>>52679317
So, what...you're only 4 foot tall and your hands can't spread wide enough to use a full size keyboard AND a mouse? Or simply your opinion on aesthetic appeal says wide keyboards are ugly? Sounds like you just don't like that you got suckered into purchasing a 60%/TKL and you're in denial about how much you dislike it, and you're overcompensating.
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>>52679445
>your hands can't spread wide enough to use a full size keyboard AND a mouse?
It's more ergonomic to have your forearms parallel and your elbows at your sides.

>Sounds like you just don't like that you got suckered into purchasing a 60%/TKL and you're in denial about how much you dislike it, and you're overcompensating.
That's quite the assumption.
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>>52666860
keyboard name senpai please ? :3
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>>52668387
i need that calvin & hobbes wallpaper
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>>52679203
But what do they switch?
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