The Secrets of Joining HDBits: Revealed! Edition.
Old thread: >>52653997
Not sure what private trackers are all about?
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Check out the wiki and update it yourself if you want more instead of complaining like a fucking faggot. https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Private_trackers
How to get into private trackers (and survive): http://pastebin.com/BFQBwQxm
Paths to get into trackers (particularly old and outdated): http://pastebin.com/D74UA1UK
What.CD Interview Notes: http://pastebin.com/Wgz6T7ta
Various tracker IRCs and sites open for signup
Use >>>/g/ptg as a link to find the /ptg/ thread.
Remember the following:
>staff occasionally read these generals and have posted here before.
>staff may pretend to be normal users asking for invites and when you invite them, they ban you for inviting strangers
>people may report emails and other personal info posted here to staff to get you banned.
>most of the invite offers here are people trolling you with false hope - begging for invites is a waste of time and you should just interview
>around 60% of posters here chat shit - don't make any claims about sites based on "something you read here once"
HOW TO JOIN HDBITS THE EASY WAY:
1) GO TO THE CG IRC AND INTERVIEW WITH THEM. THEY TAKE ANYBODY WHO HAS 2 OR MORE RATIO PROOFS.
2) MAKE SUPERFAN ON CG (EASY)
3) GO TO CG INVITE FORUM AND APPLY TO PTP FROM THERE.
4) MAKE ELITE AT PTP AND WAIT 6 MONTHS (HARDER)
5) GO TO ELITE FORUM AND APPLY TO HDBITS AND MAKE SURE ALL YOUR STATS ARE HIGH.
YOU ARE NOW AN HDBITS MEMBER! CONGRATS!
Ok, thanks because in the beginning I thought that it would have to eventually be a goal of mine.
But after lurking /ptg/ it seems I would really be fine once I get into PTP/AHD and MAYBE BTN but MTV is really fulfilling my tv needs so we'll see.
> It's a backup tracker for PTP and BTN all on its own.
>I find it has HD encodes of movies I didn't know existed.
It isn't exclusive to movies?
HDBits Requirements (from the PTP Elite forum):
- Your PTP account is at least half a year old.
- You downloaded at least 750GB of movies from PTP.
- You never owned a HDBits account before (one account per person per lifetime)
- You download stuff because you enjoy watching it not because you can make ratio with it. We much prefer long time seeders over pump and dump seedboxers. Average seedtime should be at least one month. Seeding size should be significant, say at least 750G
- Lower your paranoia to zero.
- Only request an account for yourself... and only do it if you are planning to use it.
- The following countries are banned: China, Egypt, Israel, Latvia, Turkey, Vietnam
- If you are or have ever been a member of any torrent invite/trading site you have to note this in your PM to me.
If you'd like an invite, PM me and I'll get back to you! Don't screw up or you'll end up like the guy below.
- Reqs temporarily lowered to Elite and above!
- DL lowered from 1T to 750G!
- Seeding size specified. Now increased to 750G
Guide to easily get internals from HDB, BTN, AHD etc if you're not in them yet:
- General trackers: TL has quite a few AHD encodes vs IPT. IPT gets some HDB and MTeam, HdArea, and HDT encodes. TSH has some P2P inetrnals from HDB and BTN as well. Ncore and Filelist.ro are top picks for P2P content.
- BitHDTV gets quite a few internals. Hard to seed though.
- NetHD, TorViet, UHDBits get quite a few HDB internals. Tayto's home tracker is UHDbits (currently open)
- MTV (ratioless) and TTN get BTN internals mirrored. Not great retention though. Same with TSH and FL.
- TehC gets HDB, HDT and to a lesser extent AHD internals. Only PU on AB req to get in.
- If bB opens up that is a good way to get P2P albeit quite slower compared to the rest. You can request internals.
- HDT can be bought into and has HDB internals and their own. I wouldn't recommend this though unless as a last resort.
This is only for very new people who want to have backups to get internals without having to worry about ratio, wanting to cross seed or experinece P2P encodes while you are waiting to get into PTP, AHD, HDB, BTN. Feel free to add more familia.
>Most people just buy an account to Mteam.
>$400 USD for a lifetime account
>mfw there's people who actually pays for it
Although, the 30 days trial looks interesting just for the sake of see what's in there.
Do you have an account in there? If so, how "rare" is the JAV content?
How to upload on PTP without getting cucked by TM's and desis: A guide for non-retards.
The 1st most important aspect is to focus on obscure movies. Forget about shit like Transformers, you fucking retards. You have to think in terms of foreign, classic, indie, arthouse, horror, and other niche subgenres. If you are too fucking stupid or uninterested in looking into these types of movies, you will never be able to upload lots of movies to PTP so just stop reading this and go back to shitposting on /ptg/ you worthless loser NEET.
The 2nd most important aspect is to ignore scene releases unless they fall into the above genres. The more obscure the scene release, the less likely it will be uploaded quickly. Your primary focus should be p2p releases: stuff that people randomly upload to torrent trackers or DDL.
The 3rd most important aspect is to focus on DVD or VHS releases. Three reasons why: People focus more on Bluray or HD these days, they will almost never be trumped, and they are small enough to download and upload easily.
1) Get on KG, CG, TIK, Secret Cinema, or Gorgomon. They have all of these types of films and you can easily find thousands of movies to upload to PTP from here.
2) Public trackers. Anybody can upload to these, so there's a lot of people who will upload foreign, horror, indie and classic movies here. Sort by seeders, browse by genre and go for the movies that don't get a lot of downloaders. There's always plenty of movies that go almost completely unnoticed here, especially European and Asian DVDs.
3) Release blogs. There's hundreds of blogs all over the internet that race to give you the news about new scene and p2p releases so they can offer you monetized DDL links in the comments section of each post. Try Sceper, Rlsbb, TwoDDL, TV-Release, Rapidmoviez, etc, Protip: Get a RealDebrid account and use the happy hours from 6am-12pm GMT+1 to download DDL links as a premium user.
4) Release forums. There's dozens of forums where people post links to movies and many of them are inhabited by foreigners that will often dip into the obscure genres you want to look at. Get an account at Warez-BB or TehParadox for free and you will find links being posted 24/7. RealDedrid will also work here, but users will also provide services to convert links for you to fast download links for free.
5) Libraries. You will actually have to go outside, you fat fuck, so this will be the least used option. Visit your local libraries for DVDs and rip them with your laptop.
I am not on there but I found about all this from an anon here who shared info about Chinese trackers on IRC. Apparently Chinese social network sites have a /ptg/ equivalent (pt baidu I think) where people often give out invites but I assume you need to be able to read and write Chinese.
Oh and I forgot to say that they have a lottery system as well that is open sometimes. Monitor this site: https://opentrackers.org/m-team-tp/
Thank you for posting this anon but this is my second /ptg/ thread. I use to be on CG years ago and just used Avistaz a little bit.
What do you mean by 'scene' release, is that the same as a 'p2p' release?
>If I'm already on PTP, what would I gain out of being on HDBits?
- a reliable backup for new and old movies in HD
- more freeleechable HD movies
- HD encodes that haven't or can't be uploaded to PTP (exclusivity)
You have to love HD content though or you will just consider it redundant.
He used to be a pretty hardcore druggie in his mid/late teens, but has been sober for a few years now and much more reliable overall. Now we just torrent shit, smoke weed, play games, sleep, go to work, repeat.
Its not perfect but it's decent for this part of my life.
>people with jobs can afford trios offered by any ISP provider and have no need to pay for torrents
Fix'd that for you niggers.
Not everyone is as privileged/lucky as you, double nigger.
I'd rather spend my income owning the hardware and having a fast home connection than renting space on a server somewhere. Even if i am paying for a dedicated server, i'd rather just build the same or better at home and run it myself.
Is there anything to do differently if you are uploading a new torrent on your home PC vs uploading that new torrent from your seedbox?
So, would, and will I I but that isn't till at least another few months so seeding from home/using a seedbox just recently.
>He's so addicted to porn he actually needs a private tracker to satisfy his addiction
>I got into this porn tracker mommy look
>lol these guys didn't get into muh sekret klub nya nya!
>i'm gonna pos ont he internet mom looka t me!
>implying you have a dedicated server that gives you any of this.
Seriously though, just build a desktop at home and get a decent internet connection.
I can get 500/500 here if I want. A full tower desktop with an i5, 16GB RAM, 6x4TB HDDs in RAID 6, and a SSD for the OS and programs is going to be better than most seedboxes out there, and now you have a solid desktop as well.
If you have the money to waste on $50+ a month on a dedicated seedbox, you can save up a bit for a good desktop and just do it yourself.
>implying inaccurate statements
>implying I didn't transcend from the human mind into another level of consciousness by doing a 2 month no fap
>implying that your tricks at mockery will even faze someone as intellectually evolved as me
Nigga fuck off and go read the seedbox's wiki
I decided I'm just doing it for the bounty and won't capitalize on the upload credit. Other seedbox anons can capitalize on that.
And I think you are just trying to get me banned having the same torrents on two clients.
How fucking dare you use my uncle to insult me you little shit.
>good seedbox = 12-14$ a month
We were specifically talking about dedicated server level of stuff, which goes for closer to 35-100+ a month depending on what you're doing.
>People with jobs can afford seedboxes and dedicated servers
Like I said here >>52661110
I'd rather own the equipment and do it myself if possible.
If you dont have access to decent data connection then obviously you simply cant do this due to your physical location, but that's your issue not mine.
The fact is you should already have a decent desktop at home that is at least as powerful any seedbox being offered and probably more powerful than most dedicated seedboxes out there. Throwing more HDDs into your desktop is overall far better than paying for a seedbox/dedicated server.
And for the record, shop around a bit, I got a server quality 4TB drive for $110 on black friday, but could probably find similar today for $140-150, not $170.
If I was in your position, what I'd do is get a modest seedbox and seed from home. The stuff you put on your seedbox is what you want to get ratio off of, the stuff at home you want to mine bp off of.
You're arguing for something that no one here does or almost no one. Everyone here is on a shared server, it's cheap and it's worth the money. Who the fuck gets a dedi and for what reason other than wasting money?
>Who the fuck gets a dedi and for what reason other than wasting money?
Read the fucking comment chain then instead of replying to a post you obviously have no context on.
Seriously faggot, the conversation was specifically about if you have a good job you can afford a dedicated server instead of a shitty cheap seedbox or being too poor to afford a decent home setup.
I countered saying anyone with a good job would already have a decent desktop and can just throw more hard drives in their desktop, and as long as they have a decent home data connection, it makes a LOT more sense to do that than to pay for a dedicated server.
Mine BP off at home? The only reason I see for this is having the personal assurance of the safety of your drives and being in control.
I got seedbox a few days ago from Feral and I'm technically already doing what you said. My desktop crapped out and ended up using my laptop to seed with 2 external HDD's connected. Most of my BP comes from what I seed from home atm.
>I countered saying anyone with a good job would already have a decent desktop and can just throw more hard drives in their desktop, and as long as they have a decent home data connection, it makes a LOT more sense to do that than to pay for a dedicated server.
How about people are different and make decisions according to how they want to live their life and not according to 'woulds' made by some random neet on /ptg/
Yeah, most the better trackers reward seeding lots of not-as-popular torrents through bonus points/bp. So you can seed a large sum of low seeded torrents home and make a bunch of points doing that (and do a good deed for providing people who want less popular stuff someone to grab it from), and then when you want the latest stuff that lots of people will be snatching or want to use autodl-irssi then you can use your seedbox for the best ratio/buffer gains.
Wow, thanks. I appreciate the info as I didn't really think of it from that perspective but when you mention seeding a large sum of low seeded at home and then using seedbox for latest stuff, I get it.
Thanks, anon. Also I'll feel good because you mentioned it being a good deed.
>be on hdb
>don't have a seedbox
Enjoy your cuckbox
How long did the PTP recruiter on AB take to respond? It's been 3 weeks lads I can't take it.
Are you on the true top 4 of the pyramid /ptg/?
i did. it just says to upload them untouched. i wouldn't think that pre-approval is required but when i go to upload there is no option for "boxset". you can't link more than one IMDB page. or i can't see how.
yeah ill probably do that.
Hey friends, if I may interrupt your shitposting edition for a moment, you should check out the upgrades to HDBits (courtesy I guess of the enabled bitcoin donations) it's crazy fast.
I wish BTN would put gazelle in the bin.
>Can you give complete screenshot of invite rule?
No thanks. I can invite friends if I want to and in fact I was about to invite three people very recently. Funnily enough they all got recruited officially that same week before I could.
I've come to realise that by the time I've vetted someone adequately enough to trust them on my invite tree they've already made their own way there.
That's how it works. If HDBits suits you you'll get there easily without breaking a sweat thinking about it.
HDB is a classic case of function well before form. The site just werkz and the staff are all ridiculously competent.
No, the feel of your posts is off and I get the feeling you don't belong here. If you want HDBits, get recruited, I just told you that.
Why would anyone actually want to join IPT? The owner is a scam artist and plasters ads on his site, constantly begs for donations, sells fucking invites, and is a general fucking scum bag who attacks other trackers. Not to mention the site layout is fucking awful.
Haven't been asked yet. I'd want them to do the WCD interview and prove they can handle PTs first before I invite. Most of them are used to removing torrents immediately after the download finishes because public trackers
I guess I could try harder to watch how people post but he just seems to get them in the feels somehow. A few threads ago he made this guy admit to be being an underage shitposter from reddit and then have a complete spergout and I swear to god he didn't drop a single insult. I'd just love to know the secret to it.
Next OP image right here, boys.
Probably some room for compression in this as well.
On the off chance that you're not a troll, if you want an uploader at a small niche tracker, give me a way to contact you if you want a decent user.
But I'd want to know if it's worth joining first, like their stats, how many torrents, what types, quality, etc.
Sickrage has no problem finding web-dls of everything I watch. I've never had problems finding decent encodes of movies with lossless audio. Why would I ever want to bother sweating ratio and pleasing elitist communities?
I do use jpopsuki, avistaz, BCG and XWT though because they have exclusive content that I want.
>encodes with lossless audio
It's good that you're happy anon, but your problem is that you have really low standards.
>Lossless audio is a low standard
As has been explained many times in these threads, lossless audio in ENCODES is both counterproductive and redundant as encodes by definition are a size/quality compromise with which you aim to remove data that cannot be perceived by humans.
>Web-DLs are the highest quality available for newly released TV episodes in most cases.
P2P caps of netflix, hulu and amazon streams are superior to webdl in almost every case that they're available.
Hulu, Netflix and Amazon have been bitrate starved in my experience. Hulu is 2.0 AAC. Amazon is hit and miss. iTunes AC3 sounds better than Netflix DD+ no question. Not even getting into HDX web-dl.
I agree the difference between DTS core and DTS-HD MA isn't something most people can pick up on, but critiquing me for having "low standards" for literally seeking the highest quality audio is nonsensical.
My guess is that Emp, like a lot of major trackers, has the plurality of its staff in the USA, particularly the east coast. Here, it's still "Wednesday night." Combining with how lazy some PT staff can be, I'd hazard a guess that it might take another 24-48 hours for everything to be official, and even if they do set up recruitment, they're going to get a flood of requests, so it's gonna be a few days.
tl;dr relax, snatch some movies/TV/books, get comfy and don't worry about it for a few days
>running out of hard drive space
>looking for a new drive
>remember I am seeding 500gb of word at war
4tb buffer on ptp. I've been a member for 3 years and have yet to download 3tb. I can relax for a while.
>but critiquing me for having "low standards" for literally seeking the highest quality audio is nonsensical.
Sorry, I think there's a misunderstanding here due to lack of explanation on my part.
Take the legi0n (a notoriously mediocre group) encodes for example. They like to use lossless audio and their 24bit DTSHD-MA tracks are generally 3 or 4GB larger than their lossy counterparts. Because of this and because they also need the gross size of their encodes to be competitive with other releases they have to use settings such as mbtree, dct_decimate and direct to compromise on on video bitrate and quality.
If you need lossless audio with good video you need to download the remux or mux lossless audio in to an encode yourself. Except for rare cases where an encoder has opted for FLAC because it's filesize is similar or less than it's DTS equivalent, lossless audio is generally a sign of a poor encode.
>Hulu, Netflix and Amazon have been bitrate starved in my experience. Hulu is 2.0 AAC. Amazon is hit and miss. iTunes AC3 sounds better than Netflix DD+ no question
This is completely false and I'll prove it to you all day if you like.
Ntb Netflix WEBRIP (5.8mbps)
iTunes 1080p WEB-DL (4.9mbps)
iTunes WEB-DL's are so agressively DNR'd that it's like watching TV through vaseline.
Which release is objectively the best for Interstellar? It's one of my most favorite movies and I want the best quality possible. I downloaded this a while ago:
>Interstellar 2014 REPACK IMAX Edition 1080p BluRay DTS x264-TayTO
Is there better? The sound/music is the most important part imo and I wanted lossless sound with IMAX scenes.
Interstellar 2014 REPACK 1080p BluRay DTS x264-TayTO
Is the copy I have as it looks better than the remux in my humble opinion. I also personally think the sound is fine as it was only 5.1 to begin with but if you want lossless you should grab the remux or mux the track in yourself.
nolan isn't very liked around these parts
also stop trying to force your taste on others, interstellar is a movie to see stoned out of your mind with your bros in an imax theater, not with a girl
>Are you a female?
Why are you assuming things anon? I've never said that. I'm into all sorts of stuff.
Some people however are into all sorts of things, except fantasy/sci-fi stuff.
>I've found that people who aren't into space or sci-fi related media are very boring people to hang around with.
probably because you have autism and they don't want to be around you.
Enjoying being with similar people and disliking being with dissimilar people aren't equivalent.
I like film, and if I meet someone who's also into film, I'll be happy to know them. But that doesn't mean I'm going to find a person boring because they're into cooking and I'm not. People have qualities beyond their interests.
Well I'm sure only the recruiter or someone who got rejected knows that. I'm sure you'll be fine though anon. As long as you meet the criteria they set out and you're generally in good standing on all your trackers, then I don't see a reason why you would be rejected. Just take your time, be patient and maybe in future try and achieve your stats more naturally. They're looking for useful users who can contribute so make sure you're polite and formal in your dealings with the recruiter.
Are there any quality scene groups or ones in particular to avoid? I already to know to stay away from FLEET, BRISK, EXCELLENCE, REMARKABLE & IMMERSE because I can see for myself their shit has always been awful.
Some tv shows I can only find scene bluray rips for.
You guys should make a list and post it on OP's pastebin.
Like a list of what scene/p2p groups to download from (ntb/DON/ctrhd)
And a list of shit people never to download from (DRACULA)
I was under the impression DRACULA was making good encodes. I asked someone to post a mediainfo the other day because I'm not on MTV and I was impressed by it. Full placebo-autism settings.
They are fine for the most part, it's just ntb always waits to use a better source than them.
And really ptp has quite an extensive list of this (but not for scene groups or tv obviously) which is why I'm asking about them in particular.
If you really want to know, I think our (or mine at least) brains are wired to recognise faces. Obviously 4chan's anonymous and it can't do this naturally. When you spend time lurking in one place with the same posters your brain compensates and subconsciously create 'faces' out of peoples posting patterns. Their interests, their punctuation, their temperament, the way thay name their files.etc It becomes easy to recognise regulars and you can even spot regulars from here on other boards. Especially /tv/. When someone doesn't fit your brain picks it up intuitively without you having to consciously analyze there posts.
At least, that's the best answer I have to give.
Noi, there is no internal nor do I think there ar eplans for one in the forseeable future, you'll have to be a bar cuck.
Really though it dissapoints me that you'd watch Casino Royale in a fucking window.
>Really though it dissapoints me that you'd watch Casino Royale in a fucking window.
I'm not going to senpai. Nor have I.
Btw what's your argument for black bars on 21:9 screens. That would completely fuck everything desu.
>Btw what's your argument for black bars on 21:9 screens. That would completely fuck everything desu.
Oh jesus, this is fucking my brain. I'm really bad at spatial problems and I'm trying to work out how the cropping/scaling would work in my head without googling it
>If you are an encoder it's essential and if you really are you most probably can get an invite without doing these stupid games.
Is this really the case. I've encoded 100s of rare movies for a tracker. Whom should i be contacting? If I have to upload 50 or w/e movies to ptp that's dumb easy, tedious but easier than whatcuck imo. Thing is I haven't been on ptp too long and don't have the same stats as I do on ahd.
Well to stretch out to better fit the screen it'd have to stretch down, but it can't, because of cuntbars. So you'd end up with bars on the top,bottom left and right.
Not that I'd ever buy a 21:9 screen.
Fine thank you. I will do it again:
>If you are an encoder it's essential and if you really are you most probably can get an invite without doing these stupid games.
Is this really the case. I've encoded 100s of rare movies for a tracker. Whom should i be contacting? If I have to upload 50 or w/e movies to ptp that's dumb easy, tedious but easier than whatcuck imo. Thing is I haven't been on ptp too long and don't have the same stats as I do on ahd. I have 300 uploaded on a smaller but legit tracker, 1tb average seeding size for ahd with 7 weeks (should be 9 if ahd wasn't down so much) good ratios on ahd and ptp and of course the site i encode for. Missed btn recruitment honestly feel like I can make hdb before I get a crack at btn. Shame because I just want sources to encode stuff.
Yeah it is a bit weird, I've personally never used one though, is it supposedly closer to replicating human field of view or something though or is it just ayylmao wiiiiiiidescreeeen.
open mattes on a 16:9 screen is where it's at for me right now.
Have you seen
>making a whore your waifu
she's literally jerked dicks on cam
I see some SHIT handbrake encodes on ptp that got the the green check mark. Anyone know off the top of their head if I can upload a much better encode and trump it? I know the rules are buried in the forums but some of you know it faster than I can look it up. Like what do I need to do? Upload my encode first or do I first need "approval" or report the existing encode?
Just upload your new torrent with comparison screenshots and a few details on why it's better. Report the old encode as trumped. Ezypzy.
Don't do it unless you encode is significantly better though or you're just hurting swarms and Voltaire wil put you in the timeout corner.
>s this really the case. I've encoded 100s of rare movies for a tracker.
People like you that say shit like this and don't actually specify the tracker give everyone else a fucking headache.
Nobody can answer your question if we don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
I'm PU on wcd. There's no active invite thread on the invite forums. I want to get into 'geddon because the actual content interests me, not because of some stupid e-peen reasons.
Miight just do that, although I'm already on AHD and frankly don't really see the need for an extra movie tracker. Although I guess I can use it as a primary account and keep the AHD one as a backup. Welp, I'm practically elite already, IIRC I just need the uploads.
>although I'm already on AHD and frankly don't really see the need for an extra movie tracker
PTP is great even with AHD, I regularly use both. You'll find it has quite a lot og CG's content as well.
>Welp, I'm practically elite already, IIRC I just need the uploads.
Cheers, mate. I'll probably get around doing that real soon. Am I right in assuming that a transcode counts as one upload? Ie. I don't have to upload separate new album releases or anything?
You mean shit like this? They made a 714x368 using handbrake. Terrible shit mate. It's a 3 part (episode) doc with shitty vhs transfers. I encoded each segment individually (not for ptp's sake) but I'm planning on merging them (each cropped accordingly and resized to 640x360). Fuck non conform resolution. If it looks significantly better than source, which is pillar&letter boxed, then it's a quality encode. I also literally have 30 full DVDs on my HDD. None of which are on ptp
Thanks man, I'll get around hammering away at the uploads soon.
I've been a bit out of the game (and what.cd) for a while, registered my account originally some 6 or 7 years or so but got disabled for a couple of years so I'm not all that familiar with all the workings anymore.
I used to hang out with the devs on IRC. The devs hated private trackers, they implemented the private flag only when it was obvious private trackers are not going anywhere. They did not work on bugs reported by private tracker staff that the stats reporting is buggy. When private trackers banned tixati as a result, they responded with allowing spoofing the client name. Devs being dicks is why it is banned.
It used to report falsely on seeding ratios but that got fixed. There is no reason to ban Tixati these days.
If you message your private tracker and ask them to white list it there's no reason they shouldn't.
If they don't whitelist it or you can't be assed there are ways to spoof tixati's profile so it appears like another torrent program that's allowed.
That's another reason it's banned. It has easy spoofing.
Is anyone else tired of the PT RPG grind? When does it end?
No fucking clue it's up to each individual. But if you're PU on WCD there's a chance you'll see a couple. Not many sextremes though, even less that are gonna actually give them away. Good luck.
Stats show otherwise fa.m, cant blame them. https://www.reddit.com/r/trackers/comments/1wu57k/whatcd_has_banned_all_indian_users_for_appearing/cf5ejvc
Israeli internet speeds do duck.