This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that is required to make a fine watch.
Required viewing for newbies:
Opinions on one of these? Since original 1920's-30's art-deco watches are expensive as fuck.
How much would a Seiko SQ 100 sell for in yurop?
"C 5Y23 8A50 A4" is the only thing the seller lists.
Where do i get one of these? I have a few automatic and mechanical watches and desu i don't like battery powered watches and would rather just change the strap on my current watch to a smart strap, but i don't know where to get one.
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I have a casio f91 right now, love the watch and size, but the strap is breaking. I don't really want to put a new strap on or get another one. So my question is, what's a watch that's pretty much the same size as the f91-w, and is digital?
Here's somebody's wrist shot. I just hope a 1920's style watch on a young man doesn't have the same effect as a 1920's style hat, if you know what I mean.
Quartz is cheaper and more accurate.
I wish that someone still made tuning fork movements. It is basically an accurate mechanical watch that runs off of a battery. Unlike quartz, which moves the hands with motors, the gear train is directly pushed by the movement of the tuning fork. I think that there would still be a market for tuning fork movements if someone produced them again.
I know that modern Bulovas, which use a high beat quartz movement, eat batteries very quickly, because they have to push a motor ~16 times a second. I do not think that tuning forks do, but I am not sure.
Watches are small enough accessories that you can afford a bit of embarrassment there. Besides not like many people will actually connect that watch to anything in particular.
I fucking well know that deep inside, I'm a dirty fedoraboy; though it mostly comes from my love for old cinema. Actually dressing like it was the 50s would be too much, but I can afford to wear an old-timey watch, it won't ruin my image anywhere.
Spend a couple bucks more and get the F-105W. The backlight on the F-91W is worthless, while the 105 has the comfy illuminator backlight.
Tuning fork watches can be just as accurate (if not more so) than a regular quartz watch (aka not a 9F seiko). An omega f300Hz is more immune to positional variance than an old accutron with a 214 movement, so it'll stay accurate no matter how you place it. The megasonics going at 720Hz should be even more so.
Just searched some and found that Montblanc sell a strap accessory but only with the watch. Don't think anyone else develops these accessories.
I have always read 2 seconds. Maybe some were more accurate.
"A forerunner of modern quartz watches which also keep time with a vibrating resonator, the Accutron was guaranteed to be accurate to a minute per month, or 2 seconds per day, considerably better than mechanical watches of the time."
There are though, the UHF bulovas have a smooth sweep. Although that sweep is only 16Hz (the steps of the hand, not the quartz crystal itself). Meanwhile real tuning fork watches are at least 300Hz.
Looks like even Casio is jumping on the nato bandwagon.
Even though these are just plain one piece nylon, you get what I meant.
I have this watch and a Moto X 2014.
Draw from that whatever conclusion you must.
Clear model paint, like Tamiya or Gunze? They're high quality, believe me scale modelers are way more autistic than watchfags.
The worst are carfags when it comes to paint, gloss and clear lacquer paints have to be PERFECT or they move to another manufacturer.
hm I'm sure I know someone who has some stuff like that. A thinner is sometimes also recommended - is that something that goes hand in hand with that kind of paint?
So far all I did was take a nintendo 3DS and lume the L+R buttons but that's so much more forgiving than a watch. Need far more control and a curing time of much longer than like a minute
X10 Mini Pro for several years now, I absolutely refuse to spend money on another phone. Maybe when physical keyboards become a thing again, along with free as in freedom *nix OS.
My daily watch is a blue Ministry Amphibia. >>52655675
Tamiya clear should have a good enough thickness out of the bottle to paint hands with it. There are thinners for it, but for Jap acrylic I just used alcohol. That might not be a good idea for a watch though, alcohol tends to be very aggressive with paints, you might strip the dial if you try to re-lume it.
>Hey that phone looks neat.
>Look it up
>Three hundred thousand dollarydoos
I'm seconding that post in the previous thread: why aren't there day/date GMTs?
I checked all Seiko 5s already and it seems none has a GMT feature. Also checked all the biggest GMT ranges, including Glycine, and there's no day anywhere.
Really seems to be a crown issue. There are some day/date worldtime quartz though, but even those only have one hour hand, and you need to switch in-between timezones with buttons. If feature is key, Casio has all that's required, otherwise that might just be something smartwatches can do better.
Just got this today, I instantly swapped the shitty strap and the ugly bezel for a dots & dashes one.
They look good. Buy them and enjoy.
I never liked the JLC reverso.
I never cared about the hourology behind it. No amount of history can make that ugly watch look good especially for that price.
Post your watch then, pussy boy. I bet you have not a single watch at all.
Maybe you should consider killing yourself.
This is the best watch I think I've seen in this thread so far. Get it fixed. I thought I could get a vintage chrono like that from a lesser known brand for cheap but they are all around ~$1800 in decent condition.
What's a cheap-ass watch I can wear that won't make me look like a tool, I mean $50-100 range. Mechanical or digital doesn't matter to me as long as it can tell time.
Honestly I see no functional difference between a $15,000 fine luxury watch and a cheap shit spongebob kids watch but I at least watch something that won't break for a good few years.
>Mechanical or digital doesn't matter to me as long as it can tell time.
you better care, we can't decide what you prefer for you
but if you just want a tool to tell the time, check timex, casio, citizen and seiko quartz watches. lots of different decent designs to choose from.
Is the anon who Is selling this watch here?
Alternatively you can go on WUS /f29/ and look for not-really used watches, you get a lot of watch for your money that way.
Never posted on /g/ before, so I don't know about memes and stuff here.
Just had a quick question since I was told you're the 4chan watch authorities.
I'm in the military and require a rugged and durable watch.
How are G-Shocks? Do they live up to the hype? Or would something be better?
I would be looking to spend at maximum, 200USD
One armyfag to another, they're fine for your job. They won't look as cool but fuck it.
Other things in your price range that are good are Timex, especially the Expedition series, and your lower end Suunto (not the Core, that's just a tacticool oversize watch that compiles useless features from their cheaper watches into a single model. You can get the same quality from the same brand for only 80 freedom dollars on Amazon.Com)
You'll still have change to be a watch nerd and buy a Vostok Komandirskie with that and thus wear glorious socialist engineering as you give the Muslims and Mexicans freedom 5.56mm at a time
Thinking of picking up a Hamilton Titanium Auto. What do you think, /g/?
68W. I'm a platoon medic in an infantry platoon, so everything they're out there doing, I'm out there with them doing it.
Never heard of them before so I looked it up and it's 50 bucks on Amazon. I'm getting one right now.
I've been liking the G Shock Mudmen series, but there's just so much extra shit I simply wouldn't need.
I require a backlight, not that worthless light that shines and you still can't read shit. Solar powered, and then all the usual helpful stuff.
Stuff like knowing the cycles of the moon just aren't useful to me personally in a watch
>that cut off 3
Fucking garbage get the 38mm or whatever size it is that doesn't have the awful cut off number, and get a normal plain steel one. PVD is tacticool and not durable at all, titanium is worse than steel for watches in my opinion because it's easier to scratch.
I like the Khaki line though, they're pretty nice. If you want to look into another alternative the Seiko SARG007 is a slightly different style field watch and it's around the same price and stuff, it's automatic though and I don't know if maybe you specifically want a handwinding movement for authenticity or thinness. There's also the Marathon General Purpose Mechanical if you want something more military and with tritium tubes, but I think it costs more than it should and it's pretty ugly.
>Mechanical or digital doesn't matter to me as long as it can tell time.
You can always recommend some digital mechanical like the A. Lange & Söhne Zeitwerk :^)
G-Shock, a square one please.
I hope that's a fake and that they never got so down to the point of making that
>MFW the vintage Seiko I was waiting for shows up and all it needs is a new crystal and a service.
Hint: It is the single greatest pre-quartz crisis Seiko automatic and I got it for 170 Canuckistan maple syrup dollaroos.
Guangzhou fakes will not keep time for long. I could see the appeal if you were cosplaying as an arab street merchant. You've just got a bunch of shit watches.
Weird watch. No crown on crown and polished center links?
>pre-quartz crisis Seiko
It was a crisis for everybody else, it was a fucking golden age for Seiko. I doubt you got a GS or anything for $17 USD, so what is it?
>mfw waiting for my new watch in the mail
>mfw haven't heard anything in 3 weeks
Obviously, but I was using pre-quartz crises to mean from before Seiko ceased making high-end mechanicals in the mid 1970s.
And no, the greatest automatic Seiko produced before the late 1970s was *not* a Grand Seiko.
Well I would think the best would be a 44GS or 44KS or something like that but I'm curious to see what yours is then. Is it hi-beat?
Is this the only Panerai worth acquiring?
In the early 1970s, Suwa Seikosha had already ceased producing high end mechanical watches, and Daini Seikosha realized they would have one last stab at created an automatic movement to leave for posterity's sake.
This led to the development of Daini's 52xx caliber, featuring 28,800 bph, quickset day/date using the crown, instantaneous day/date change at midnight, adjustable beat corrector, rack and pinion micro-adjuster, bi-directional winding, etc.
For their last hurrah they created a final variant of this movement for the final King Seiko model, and then adjusted it to GS standards in the form of the 1975 King Seiko 5256-8010.
And I found it for 170 maple syrup bux!
>tfw your dad gives you a patek but your taste is so shit that you're selling it to buy a hublot
Neat, I like it. Sounds like a really good find too at that price. I hope that bracelet isn't original and you aren't planning on keeping it, though.
Here's a King Penis made around the same time.
Maybe Tissel? I only found out the brand recently but they offer a 9015 diver for 195. Has anyone actually bought one before? Would be interested to see pics/review of one. Other than that I know of Tiger Concept that also offers a 9015 for a little over 200.
A cheap 9015 watch might be nicer due to 28800bps and hacking/handwind.
Man that dial is nice. I always tend to prefer Daini styling.
And no, the bracelet is going to be put away and replaced by a black Horween shell Cordovan leather strap and/or the Staib Milanese mesh I've got coming for it.
>Has anyone actually bought one before?
I was the first, spammed pics and trolled the fuck out a dead /wtg/ with it.
Build quality is good, cyclops has good magnification (have since bought a Steinhart and those have shit magnification by comparison, ended up selling it because I don't need two Submariner homages), only downside is the kerning, but it'snot noticeable unless you hold your watch six inches away from your face.
Someone wanted pictures of the movement. So this is the 6S37B movement, mostly the same as the 6S37A you find lots of pictures of online. Main difference is the quality of finishing, the type of finishing (tokyo stripes instead of colimaconnage) and the rhodium plating.
From this image you can see the adjustment screw. This is something we haven't talked about much. Low end watches tend to use a small arm that you can poke with something like a match stick back and forth to help adjust the watch on the most basic level and that's mostly all you can do. We have guys using apps like wildspectra to see how their watch is running in different positions and making small adjustments to see if they can improve the timing by making it more accurate and by making sure whatever bias does exist tends towards running fast (better to be early than late.)
On this particular movement you can see an etachron-style fine adjustment screw (not sure if they have a particular name for it, other than etachron for Seiko).
If you're interested in watch regulation you could google a couple things including etachron, watch regulation, microstella (rolex patent) and gyromax (patek patent.)
Also this is the only decent picture I got, the rest were fuzzy.
Neat, definitely looks better from the back than from the front. But also:
>Bragging about regulators
>Bitch aint even a swan-neck
I really need to reshoot this photo actually in focus some time but I don't want to pop open my caseback again just for the purposes of shitposting on a malaysian child slave breakroom.
>Buy nice watch
>It stops working
>no watch repair shops near me that don't just replace batteries
>tfw when you're also waiting for such a watch in the mail
>tfw when you're waiting for mr. Aussie to send it
Plus another Raketa in the mail.
You're taking these threads too seriously.
Many times this.
There's a watch shop down the street from me. One day a manual wind watch I own jams up and refuses to wind. I bring it to them to see what they can do. 2 weeks later I get it back but it's gaining time like mad, minutes a day. I take it back and they give it another go. This time I get it back and it seems better, but a few days later it jams up again. Not taking the chance on letting them touch it a 3rd time. Gotta find somebody else.
Where can I buy legit fake watches?
I just want something simple with a metal band. The case should be also preferably thin.
Pic related. Citizen eco drive.
The first dive watch my father gave me would be something I would like. He actually took me diving and taught me how to use a driver's bezel and how important a watch is to a diver (dive computers were not in significant use for recreational diving yet.)
I believe that watch got lost during a move when I still lived with my parents. It was not a watch of significant cost or quality, but I would get get a lot out of having it again.
Other than that there's a number if pieces I would love to own, and it would be extremely hard to pick just one. Not only would it be hard to pick one because then I'd be giving up other watches, but I'd be stuck with just that. Something like a Zeitwerk minute repeater would be amazing, but is actually pretty large and heavy to have as an only watch.
Immediately the patek 5396 comes to mind, one of my favorite pateks, and one of my favorite annual calendars. A complicated piece with a shockingly uncomplicated dial. But could I only wear just that? I think I might actually be more comfortable in something like a 15202, a two hander with date, but in an angular steel case and bracelet with blue dial making it sporty, but has a touch of elegance.
Or dare I say it, if I had my choice of any watch to be my one watch, it might be.. Another Grand Seiko.
>5396 and 15202
Your taste in Credors may be questionable but at least you can pick good Pateks to lust over.
I really like the Nautilus and yet I just fucking hate the RO and I don't know why. I guess maybe just the bad association with the ROO line and my general dislike for AP or something.
It's got a pretty amazing and historically interesting movement. That rotor, which so very thin, is held against that rail and then much of the weight loaded all at the very end, which allows it to so darn thin. You would expect this sort of thin movement to normally only be attempted as manual wind or with a micro-rotor. This is some really well done stuff here.
I think it's a fantastic watch. And if I got a couple weeks wrist time with it, I might be willing to say if I could have it as an only watch (not that I would ever really want to have an only watch.)
Where did you order the lume powder from?
I remember years ago when lum-tech was still selling their supposedly superduper bright long lasting shit aftermarket.
Knew I should have bought some of that shit then.
>people keep saying it's the best dive watch under $300
are there other watches that can prove this wrong?
I could use some advice, /g/ watch fans.
>23, just got a job at AT&T as a digital customer service guy
>not actually AT&T but close enough
>mom offers a pretty dinged-up rolex for finishing my BA in music appreciation, sure thanks
>mfw I realize it's a Submariner
Am I too young to make this my 'everyday'? My supervisor wears a Casio, I feel like there's a good chance this wouldn't be smart in the workplace. I'm hoping for an internal transfer into the IT department when one's available.
That's a good idea, thanks. it's going to be tough to shake off the NEET lifestyle, but hopefully I can afford a 4chan Pass to shitpost some more.
>BA in music appreciation
Did you ACTUALLY do a BA in "music appreciation" (whatever the fuck that is) or are you just memeing?
BA philosophy here, and I'm not memeing. If I hadn't dropped sciences at school I would have done something sciency but hey ho, too late for that now.
Guys, what's a /g/-tier watch with tritium lume?
A rack and pinion micro-adjuster as used by some Seikos accomplishes precisely the same goal as a swan neck regulator. I see no technical justification to act like one type is superior to the other.
The LM Special is a very nice and underrated watch, and it shares the 52xx movement family, but it isn't quite equivalent to Daini's last automatic hurrah.
The 5256 version of the 52KS was only produced for one year and was literally intended from the ground up as Daini's final statement of mechanical watchmaking ability for the ages.
It was manufactured and factory adjusted to GS+ levels by the same people at Daini who had worked on the Daini produced GS models (e.g. 45GS)
Yeah i'm here anon, i'll put up the listing in the next few minutes.
It's a great movement on it's own, and i like the looks of the original bracelet.
Imo trying to get a 5256 KS will be a quite a brand special of butthurt, but this is also fine even if it's not adjusted to Chronometer levels.
They're supposedly legit military watches. Also tritium tubes aren't cheap to begin with.
Alright, autismo-kun. What I mean is that they're meant for military use, Marathons conform to the US Army spec. Same way as the Speedy Pro is a legit space watch, Russians, ESA and others might wear better watches, but the Speedy Pro is NASA certified for spaceflight and EVA-s.
They're some kind of fiber composite that Marathon calls "fibreshell". I assume it's fiberglass and resin, which is pretty tough, the Soviets used to make tank armor out of that stuff.
Just took the BOCTOK for its inaugural shower dive now that it's off the leather strap
Now I just gotta wait for roommates to realize 65 degrees is actually warm and we can head down to the beach to really test out the WR
>Alright, autismo-kun. What I mean is that they're meant for military use
>wearing a watch with glowing tritium tubes you can't turn off
lol good job giving away your position and getting shot "commando"
>assuming tritium would be noticeable over a few meters, even with night-vision
>calling others "commando"
Ok operator-kun. Electroluminescent backlights are probably way more visible though, so operate a tactical bungee cord around your neck and rappel off a stool.
It means he takes this way too seriously.
>implying you operate
>implying anyone cares
>implying your opinion is well though out and matters at all
It's a watch. Calm down!
well, luminoxes at the very least have been used by military people. they also have glowing tritium.
seriously though, in what kind of a situation do you think a small, faint glowing stick on your arm will give away your position?
SKX009, Citizen eco drive, kommie watch, white F-91W, sea master in pic and some old omega in 14k.
Moto X 2014
Think I'll give away the one in pic in the future it's super small on my wrists.
Well it is mil-spec. And also used by the IDF.
Also some faint tritium is the LAST thing that would give away an infantry team or an SF unit.
I say again, calm down and stop couch operating, your embarrassing you're self.
>makes a thousand slashes a seconds into the darkness
>ninja shinobi appears
>starts to sheath back katana
>"nothing personnel kid..."
>as the tsuba hits the says and makes a noise the shinobi falls apart into a million pieces
>"...but the glow of your Luminox gave you away"
>very small minority use it
face it. it's not practical (taking extra time to read fucking analog watches, lume, $800 mechanical in rough environment etc). most prefer to use casios and gshocks for good reason.
it's just a watch mostly marketed to idiots who want to feel like they're operator like you retards
In the dark, quartz/mechanical aside, tritium worn on the underside of the wrist would be easily visible without touching to the wearer while holding the weapon, while not being outwardly visible to anyone else.
>taking extra time to read fucking analog watches
Holy shit, are you fucking five? Analogs are even faster to read, unless you're a total invalid.
>$800 mechanical in rough environment
The Navigator is quartz, besides, no one complained about the Seikos in Nam or the Komandirskies in Afghanistan.
>most prefer to use casios and gshocks for good reason.
True, but that still doesn't mean these wouldn't work.
>it's just a watch mostly marketed to idiots who want to feel like they're operator like you retards
So far you're the biggest tryhard mall ninja here, going on a crusade against something you don't like and no one forces to buy. For the last time, calm down!
in reality I'm pretty sure soldiers and whatnot wear rather random watches, with g-shocks and such being popular. but I do believe that luminox has confirmedly supplied watches to soldiers before.
>taking extra time to read fucking analog watches
this depends on your position though
most digital watches need a button press of a flick of your wrist to trigger the backlight, etc.
>$800 mechanical in rough environment
oh, I thought we were talking about quartz watches
Funny you should mention the Seikos in Nam, considering they became so popular with soldiers because the field watches they were issued were shit and would get flooded and seize up in the jungle. Seiko was a pretty unknown brand to Americans but watches like the 6105 were cheap and worked well so they threw away their OFFICIAL US ARMY MILITARY GRADE WATCH and wore Seikos instead.
Archie's having a meetup
Post good ways to shitpost IRL
Chink Explorer II polar on nato showing the wrong time
Asking about his opinion on Dufour and case materials for minute repeaters etc while wearing a f91w
So is there any other good GMT Diver than Steiny? In the same price range or cheaper.
I'm not the anon arguing anything, I just like watch history and was reminded of that story. Keep arguing about whatever you were arguing about, I don't care.
Vostok Amphibia. Keep shilling it to him.
Fakes and homages are both pretty shitty. The latter is used as an excuse for the company being incapable of making an original design, so they ape another and save time and money. Unfortunately both fakes and homages are kept going by idiot consumers who cannot aim any higher or think to get something with an original design in their price range.
there are good clothes, but indeed price is no guarantee
anyway, go buy a tailor-made suit or anything from a good place and tell me that shit ain't high quality (and it'll actually fit ya)
for ready-made clothes, one just needs to try different ones and research them to find something that is good. generally speaking, this "good" is priced somewhere between "cheap" and "high fashion" - that is, indeed it ain't the most expensive stuff you can buy, but neither is it cheap.
>something with an original design in their price range
Not much with an original design in the <$300 price range.
I like the Rolex sub design. I got an Orient Ray. It looks good and is different enough that nobody would take it for a Sub. That's all fine by me.
$10 ones will be better, but not ten times better. My British Monkeyswag Bond is a year old now, wore it daily for quite a while and still no sign that it'll eventually give out. Also it's noticeably tougher, comfier and better made than $1 ones.
Still 1$ ones work for your cheapshit watches, but maybe a Ray deserves something better.
Any multitude of microbrands that use the 9015.
top kek, I stalk wt a lot but I still missed it sadly. But yeah wear in good lulz since Tissell is actually a great watch for the price, and steinhart at 2x the price is its closest competitor...
>But yeah wear in good lulz since Tissell is actually a great watch for the price, and steinhart at 2x the price is its closest competitor...
The Steinhart is nice, but it's bigger (not an issue for me), pricier and the Cyclops isn't as good.
I ended up selling mine about 2-3 weeks after buying it, I didn't dislike it, I just din't want it.
But it comes down to this:
If Kerning is a MASSIVE issue for you, buy the Steinhart.
If the Cyclops/Size is a MASSIVE issue for you, buy the Tisell.
If both are massive issues for you, save up and get a Rolex.
The best shitpost that has ever happened in these threads was the "photonharvesting", "memenicals" and "Lolex" from the Eco-shill.
I hope not, even if the 5007 rep is interesting he only shitposted.
Pic related, other movement there's a good rep of.
I find it really funny how Richemont is getting completely BTFO by the chinks who make reps with the same materials and functionalities for literally ~5% of the price.
You could've at least waited until we were a bit closer to the bump limit, but you're sure to get help since there's several accutron owner regulars here.
Yeah, Steinhart makes blatant copies.
I like where they're going with the hands and blue details of their Ocean Titanium, but the case and bezel are still just a submariner rip-off.
But if someone likes a design a lot, and doesn't have the kind of money it takes to buy the original, I won't hold it against them if they choose to get an homage.
Fakes are another story.
>I find it really funny how Richemont is getting completely BTFO by the chinks who make reps with the same materials and functionalities for literally ~5% of the price.
And no quality control, warranty, or possibility of service.
If the chinks put the same kind of effort in making original designs... Well actually they wouldn't make anything good, because all they know is to copy.
Still, it's a shame.
I just got an old Rolex Submariner, but I'm only 23, so I'm thinking of getting a NATO strap before I make it my everyday, to dress it down. Only problem is, where should I get one?
Dollar stores don't seem appropriate, somehow. Canada has a shit dollar right now, so I'd prefer somewhere without a retarded shipping cost. Any help would be /g/.
>tfw my rolex rep without a crown was keeping time as good as my seiko for about a month
>its 18 years old
if these people made real quality watches, they would be competing with rolex.
sadly i dont know anyone who would work on a rep, i'd love to service it and put in a sterile dial.
The Chinese only make quality products for the Chinese. The cheap shit is because the masses want it, same as American fast food.
That said, if you're buying a fake and expect it to act like the real deal, I've got some bad news for you.
Wear it on the bracelet you enormous pussy. Get a nato if you want it too but don't just get rid of the bracelet for no reason. I like natos from Crown and Buckle personally, no idea about shipping to Canada though.