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Previously on: >>52634761

Intended for users of all levels, including absolute beginners.

There are four ways to try Linux, you can:

1) Install a Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
2) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full Linux experience".
3) Dual-boot Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about Linux)
4) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with Linux (not recommended)

Before asking, please find the answers to your questions in resources.

Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly Linux Thread.

Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe wine can make up for it.

Resources:
man <insert command here>
your friendly neighborhood search engine
https://www.codecademy.com/en/courses/learn-the-command-line
https://wiki.archlinux.org/
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/
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What is Linux (or GNU/Linux for Stallmanists)?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux

Babby's First Linux (What distro to choose?)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

What software does /g/ recommend? (Please DON'T include the so called infographic [it's reddit-tier] -- refer all your recommended software here.)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software

Ricing on Linux (Make it good and functional or make it worse/puke-inducing like those at desktop threads)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux_ricing

A script designed to ease the transition from Windows to Debian
https://gitgud.io/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript

Check out this page for any updates on the OP
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php//flt/

IRC No one uses:
irc://irc.freenode.org:+7000/FriendlyLinux
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>tfw when you can't decide what you want baby's first distro to be.
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I'm trying to test my RAID pack.

How long should "mdadm --monitor /dev/md0 --test" approximately take?

I read somewhere that it should be "quick" compared to full scan, but has been stuck for about 30 minutes.

Assembling the pack took about 4 hours, two 3TB disks, SATA2.

The last output was
>mdadm: Monitor using email address "[email protected]" from config file
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>>52654323
>1) Install a Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
>2) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full Linux experience".
>3) Dual-boot Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about Linux)
>4) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with Linux (not recommended)

4.5) swap in a spare hard drive and overwrite that instead
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>>52654470
Woo, the kitty method at work! Of course I needed --oneshot

No mail, though.
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>>52654387
i used mint but i think xubuntu would have been better.
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>>52654387
Like it simple ? Mint.
Like constantly updating everything just because ? Antergos.
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>install Linux on Surface Pro 2
>panics when I use wireless due to null pointer de-reference
Nice OS retards.
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>>52654323
Please link new threads to the old ones to prevent 10 new threads. Thanks!
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>>52654387
I've heard arch is great way to really, really learn it.
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>>52654605
Following this infographic may fix your problem.
Enjoy.
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>>52654642
>I've heard
where?
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>>52654666
People who actually use linux and dont use de's
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>install Windows 10
>Just works
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>>52654605
kernel version?
also why would you buy a MS device if you plan on installing GNU/Linux on it?
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>>52654666
To be honest I'm about 6 days in and almost have grub working properly. I got it to the point where it just says grub.
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I've installed fedora for dual boot on my laptop
The problem is wifi doesn't work properly. Websites take forever to load and the speed varies from 1mb/s to around 60 or so when the wired connection speed is just fine at constant 100mb/s and it is stable unlike the wifi. I've tried disabling ipv6 with no luck and everything should be up to date. Yes I have used google and tried editing several config files etc.
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>>52654677
nice meme
>>52654688
i dual-boot and needed to use a driver cd (not kidding) to get basic functionality like my ethernet connection to run on windows 10 while everything i needed ran OOTB on debian.
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>>52654387
Install Manjaro. It helps getting familiar with the linux system and it's base is Arch so you can switch with ease when you feel save enough. Also basically everything in the Arch wiki can help you to understand your system.

If you don't want to go deeper in the future and just want something that feels like windows, get Mint.

If you want something completely free as in freedom go with Trisquel.
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>>52654677
Hey, most casual Arch users are running either Cinnamon or KDE.
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>>52654744
chip?
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>>52654688
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>>52654751
Still using my original install from 2009.
xorg broke one time, and it was like a month ago in the testing repo.
>>52654761
DE's are bloated shit. Openbox/fluxbox/*box is all you need. Chose what software you want, dont be dealt inferior apps cause it's just what is in your de.
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>>52654780
sadly not 1920x1080
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>>52654804
>apps
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>>52654700
Whatever the latest Gentoo kernel is. The hardware is built well.
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>>52654832
>apps=application
>programs you install
>being this new
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>>52654839
>genkernel
so you actually know your shit or are you just memeing? what does uname -v say?
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>>52654773
whats a chip?
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>>52654751
i love these comics
>>52654875
which wifi-chip does your laptop use? because you may need non-free drivers for it or something.
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>>52654832
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>>52654874
I said latest Gentoo kernel, not genkernel.
My server is running hardened, so it's going to be a more updated kernel than that:
gserv tmp # uname -v
#5 SMP Sun Nov 1 14:13:21 EST 2015

gserv tmp # uname -a
Linux gserv 4.1.6-hardened #5 SMP Sun Nov 1 14:13:21 EST 2015 x86_64 AMD FX(tm)-8320 Eight-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
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Should I install crunchbang ++?
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>>52654979
meh, I liked archbang better
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>>52654979
bunsenlabs seems to be a more active !# project
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>>52654605
>>52654700
>>52654839
>>52654874
>>52654935
>gentoo
meme greater that even arch ain't got shit on it
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>>52654999
>>52655008
I'll have a look at these then, might try archbang for muh bleeding edge
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>>52654832
These are all Turing Machines anyway, so they're all virtually the same. Just mindless symbolic manipulation creating desired results.
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>>52654935
maybe you need some patches, the surface 2 seems to be running fine even with ubuntu lts
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>>52654773
>>52654891
I found these two
>Dell Wireless 1504 802.11b/ g/n (2.4GHz)
>Intel(R) 82579LM Gigabit Network connection
So I'm guessing there's something wrong with the drivers and the upper dell wireless chip. Now is there a way to get this shit to work properly?
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>>52654979
just install debian testing with openbox or something.
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Using gentoo makes no sense. You can download the source, customize and recompile any package on any system. Forcing you to do this for every package is why it's just a meme.
Please proof me wrong.
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Anyone got a script for simple curling/wgetting song lyrics? Everything I find on git/google are huge ass script, scripts using api keys, etc.
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>>52655060
>emerge <shit you need>
>>you
>hurrr why it take so long to compile this shit, I need to look at my system while things automatically get installed
>>people with more than 2 brain cells
>well that software's installing, time to do other shit
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>>52655060
gentoo runs on every relevant platform with pretty much any package, this only works with source-based distros.
>>52655056
both of those have working drivers, have you tried using a search engine with the search terms: your laptops name+linux+wifi
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>>52655199
>taking 20 hours on a quantum computer to compile firefox/chrome
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>>52655379
>finish compiling
>realize firefox got a new update
>recompile
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>>52655379
quantum computers won't be faster than digital computers for such tasks
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when I'm installing from a tar file, should I be extracting to /usr/bin/ ?
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>>52655379
>using a web browser without fucking stack smashing protection
It's like you like having your shit compromised.
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>>52654642
I am considering it.
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>>52655637
>Not chrooting your browser
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>>52655039
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I want to run 2 seperate backup commands daily via cron, however both directories to be be compressed are fairly large, and would each take quite some time to complete (at least a couple of hours per directory.)
How can I tell cron not to run one job until the other job has already started, without guessing the time it will take to complete? Should I just split the commands on one line with a ';', or is there some cron-specific method of doing this?
Also, can I spread a command over multiple lines using a '\'?
I should also mention that the commands are to be ran from a FreeBSD system, although there doesn't seem to be any major differences apart from a few environment variables, and different handling of MAILTO.
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>>52655741
Have a third command run a script or something.
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>>52655722
Actually made me laugh
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>>52655913
It could probably use Jobs in the middle there. Then - Now - Forever.
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>>52654387
Cub Linux (formerly known as Chromixium).
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>>52655298
>have you tried using a search engine with the search terms: your laptops name+linux+wifi
yes and all I found was solutions for Ubuntu. It's a dell Latitude 3330 with BCM4313 chip
Is it not possible theres just something stupid simple wrong with my settings? The wifi connection does work, its just really laggy and unstable
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>>52654979
Either #!++ or BunsenLabs.

#!++ developer recently posted this tutorial:
https://computermouth.com/tutorials/custom-debian-distro-simple-cdd/
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>start xfce4-power-manager on startup
>does not work at fucking all
i just want tiling that werks god damn, is there anything in i3 that overwrites it?
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>>52655561
no.
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>>52656044
Basic functionality does matter which os its about.
Are you sure your wifi just isnt shit?
How are you setting up your wifi
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>>52654979
CrunchBang++ is pretty much exactly like its predecessor, just with newer packages.

BunsenLabs is a little bit different and will presumably continue to slowly drift away from the original #!.

Also check out TweakOS. Has a similar Openbox setup and arose from the ashes of Crunchbang like the other two mentioned. Really nice look and feel, in my opinion.

There's also Crunchbang Monara, but I haven't tried it so can't comment.
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>>52654979
Just use arch retard
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>>52656649
Arch has no connection to CrunchBang aside from someone making ArchBang. Arch and CrunchBang(++) are based on different foundations and principles. Arch is bleeding edge, CrunchBang based on stable Debian.
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Using manjaro but want to swtich to arch.
How does manjaro's start bar thingy work? like when I install even an .sh it'll appear in the start menu?
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>>52656906
just use antergos, it's basically just an installer for arch, that or use architect
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>>52656921
>following 10 steps on a wiki is hard
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>>52656921
thanks. what are the main differences between the two?

>>52656965
installed arch on VM so I know how to do it, just not into the whole ricing part. and xfcelooked uggo as fuck compared to default manjaro.
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>>52656965
not hard but tedious and pointless when there's an easier way

>>52657018
antergos is a full blown distro with support and customizations, architect is a text based installer for arch
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>>52656174
My wifi should be fine, since it works perfectly good when i boot to windows 7
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>>52657018
Use openbox
Find a gtk theme you like
Find an icon theme you like
Find a cursor pack if you want to
Edit openbox to how you want it.
That easy.If you want to rice you're going to have to do it manually to what you like.If you want to be hand held and have no choice, you're better off getting ubuntu and using gnome
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>>52657138
thanks so much! nah it's just I want the same look as default user account manjaro going on.
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>>52657289
>copy .gtk/2/3 .icons .themes from home folder
>Might have to check /etc if it isnt located in your home folder
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Trying to go into arch forum and asking
whats the result of:
date -u +%V$(uname)|sha256sum|sed 's/\W//g'

I get
e06135132a9bf3778b771cae11f072d7e59cf9d03494e9fb7113c84a1cbd8876

Doesn't work.
What a pretentious community.
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>>52657784
Paste it in a terminal
Press enter
Get result
Post it on idiot check
GG

>you're a retard
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Is there a minimalist distro like arch but that doesn't use systemd?
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>>52658230
I think void doesn't use systemd but it's really new so is likely to have quirks and issues, but if you're considering something archlike then that's probably not a problem for ya
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>want to install linux
>my dell xps 13 9350 has a broadcom wireless card

Looks like I am fucked boys.
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>>52658230
Use arch+openrc
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>>52657289
Yo
Check this
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=208143
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>>52658230
and what's wrong with systemd again?
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>>52658385
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I need some help guys. Recently I've been playing around in the config file for lightdm. Today, when I tried to log in, lightdm wouldn't load. I eventually discovered it was because of a flaw in my typing when I designated the greeter in the config file. Now lightdm seems to be working, but when I try to log in, the screen just flashes and goes back to lightdm. I've tried multiple user accounts and multiple window managers. None of them work. Any help?
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>>52658430
aaand?
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What would you guys pick to be the best distro if I wanted to get a Linux certification/learn general Linux networking?

I have my sights set on Mint, Debian, or Crunchbang, those are the ones my friends have and I could always ask them for help.
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Anyone here use void? Give me your opinions on it? How do you think the project will develop in the future?
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>>52658614
>Linux certification/learn general Linux networking?

>I have my sights set on Mint, Debian, or Crunchbang
Kek forget about those.

If you can afford it - RHEL, if you don't want to spend money on subscription - CentOS (binary compatible with rhel, compiled from the same source).

If you don't want tiny repositories of small packages then Fedora, as an upstream version of RHEL.
What you will learn in Fedora 23/23 will be useful when RHEL8 is released (current RHEL7 is rebranded Fedora 19).
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>>52658664
>Give me your opinions on it?
Honestly from their website it looks "yet another bullshit distro that accomplishes nothing".
Next to (r)edditor's choice like elementary, manjaro, deepin, papyros, solus project etc.

Making a distro with a single "reedemable feature" being "we don't run systemd lol" is not something I'd call "productive".

If you like meme hard and hate systemd you're probably better off running gentoo, at least is has an active community and is a well of great resources (i don't run gentoo but their wiki is absolutely goat)
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>>52658600
Its eating the entire system up. One process dosent need to be responsible for 90% of the system.
It is a boot layer not an entire os
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>>52658762
I see your point and I've kind of noticed this as well, but seeing that it does not have systemd and has runit(?) that seems important to a lot of different people. It also does have it's own package manager, doesn't that count for something? Package managers are usually pretty important to people.
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>>52658557
Update: all features of lightdm work except for logging in (I.e. I can use the shutdown and restart buttons like normal.) And I changed the default dm to slim and can now verify that there is nothing wrong with any of my window managers.
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>>52658664
when it supports wine on x64 with musl then we'll talk
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>>52658772
>Its eating the entire system up.
It doesn't. It was intended and turned out to be a feature creep but it doesn't remove the functionalities you're used to.
It never was intended to be portable and the "muh unix philosophy" fags are the worst fucking cancer of the linux community.
Well integrated system is better than pile of small utilities all with it's own narrowly defined functionalities and each one with different approach to them.

>One process
I'm afraid you know absolute fuck shit about what you're trying to make an opinion on friend.

>It is a boot layer not an entire os
Well yes it is, there's no operating system under the name of systemd.
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>>52658809
>but seeing that it does not have systemd and has runit(?) that seems important to a lot of different people.
It does, when it comes to free software we all have the freedom to choose.

But you asked about the future of it, and I'm fairly sure it has none.

>It also does have it's own package manager, doesn't that count for something? Package managers are usually pretty important to people.
This is actually completely irrelevant.
Reinventing a tool just for the sake of being a special snowflake does not solve any problems at all.
Besides, what reedeming qualities void's package manager has that yum/dnf doesn't?
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>>52658977
>It does, when it comes to free software we all have the freedom to choose.
But you asked about the future of it, and I'm fairly sure it has none.
fair enough
>Reinventing a tool just for the sake of being a special snowflake does not solve any problems at all.
but if you're trying to improve efficiency or expand features to make it an even more useful tool. However I do not know if it does either of those (probably doesn't desu)

Anyways thanks for the replies, I'm not trying to shill void or anything, just bring up a halfwit argument or two
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>>52658933
Now there are up to 3 places to look for a config file, vs one in /etc<name>.conf
Something goes wrong?
Well fuck i have to reinstall because journalctl is useless and basic functions are failing.
Oh you want a stable system and want to constantly use it? Better not update systemd, they fuck each version up with menial changes, and it bricks your init.
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I am replacing my current kernel with the lts version on Arch. Will I have to edit the grub config to boot into it or does it happen automatically?
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>>52659135
Yes
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>>52659088
>Oh you want a stable system and want to constantly use it? Better not update systemd, they fuck each version up with menial changes, and it bricks your init.
Provide sources or fuck off friend.
All commercially supported distributions (ubuntu, RHEL, SLES) use systemd by default.
All remaining popular non-commercially supported distributions use systemd by default.
Arch's update failure rate hit the ground after the adoption of systemd.

Are you trying to imply that all your half-assed neckbeard garbage forks of forks of forks of init systems are better, more stable and better suited for production environment?
If that was true why aren't they in use by anything other than obscure distributions?
I mean - surely the licensing of such software is not an issue, so mind providing ANYTHING to back your words?
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>>52659193
>sources
Check any forum(which ever distro gets you HARD) and look for logind issues. relating to version changes.

Im on stock arch install for the past 6 years. systemd was a good concept when it came out and i updated, now it is cancerous and id have to reinstall to get rid of it.

>support
Because EVERYBODY went to systemd . It was a bandwagon and now everyone regrets it.)

Check this out faggot
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/1022
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>>52658933
what the fuck is Lennart Poettering doing on g.

>muh unix philosophy
if you don't like the unix philosophy, use windows. A well integrated system of small, modular utilities was the idea, it's the bloody nih philosophy which fucks everything up again and again.

>there's no operating system under the name of systemd
that would be fun,
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>>52654979
why not just Debian?
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>>52659259
>https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/1022
It will coexist next to su, and it provides extended functionality compared to su, i fail to see the problem
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>>52659272
>if you don't like the unix philosophy, use windows
If you don't like systemd, use BSD.
Oh wait, FreeBSD is on their way to get their systemd equivalent as well, but this time from applel instead of redhat
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>>52659306
>Lennart Poettering's long story short: "`su` is really a broken concept. It will given you kind of a shell, and it's fine to use it for that, but it's not a full login, and shouldn't be mistaken for one.

This man knows nothing and is fucking everything up for the sake of usurping the entire system.
Who has EVER had a problem with su? fucking ever
It gets you extra privs from your current user, it has worked for decades.
su - or su - bash
What the fuck is broken with it?
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>>52659355
>`su` is really a broken concept. It will given you kind of a shell, and it's fine to use it for that, but it's not a full login, and shouldn't be mistaken for one.
You forgot about the large part of the same comment where hitlering explains why su is a broken concept according to him and what machinectl shell is trying to fix
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Who else runs SSH while they're taking a shit?
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>>52659423
>Well, there have been long discussions about
this, but the problem is that what su is supposed to do is very unclear. On one hand it’s supposed to open a new session and change a number of execution context parameters (uid, gid, env, …), and on the other it’s supposed to inherit a lot concepts from the originating session (tty, cgroup, audit, …). Since this is so weakly defined it’s a really weird mix&match of old and new paramters. To keep this somewhat managable we decided to only switch the absolute minimum over, and that excludes XDG_RUNTIME_DIR, specifically because XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is actually bound to the session/audit runtime and those we do not transition. Instead we simply unset it.


Point stands
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>>52659485
I just take a quick shit instead
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>>52659510
But where's the fun in that?
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>>52659306
anyone else?
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When I ip link from the boot-usb I have my wlan, but when I do it from the install I don't have the wlan.

Can someone tell me what I'm missing ? I had to go back in to the boot-usb to get rfkill, iw,wpa supp, and dialog.
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I'm changing NTFS to ext4 and somehow ended up with 1.9TiB on one drive when its capacity in ext4 is 1.8TiB. Fuck.
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>>52659804
Did you remove the space reserved for root when you format?
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>>52659586
same
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>>52659886
I don't have the slightest idea.
I first wiped one of the 4TB drives so that I can transfer both of my 2TB drives to it. Everything went fine. Now I'm copying the contents of that very same drive back to itself, but with ext4.

I did fdisk /dev/sd<letternumber goes here>, deleted the partitions, made a GDT, made a new partition, and closed fdisk. Then I just used mkfs -t ext4 and carried on. Did I do something wrong?
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>>52659963
No thats standard procedure for formatting a disk. You can also use mkfs.ext4 or what ever filesystem you want.

Run this as root.Note choose the partition not the drive its self
tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sdbXY
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>>52660086
I'll give it a shot.
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Does someone have a nice demographic of the different DEs?
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how important is it to keep your os up to date? I have opensuse 13.2 my laptop and I dont want to fuck everything up by upgrading to leap
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>>52660852
OpenSUSE 13.2 has support (updates) until 2017. If everything just works for you, no need to upgrade to Leap.
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Does anyone here use Iridium?
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>>52660929
noice
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>>52660599
Huh.. this sounds like a neat project. Something that you can throw arbitrary DE's at, screenshot them, and generate a webpage.
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>>52660086
It didn't work, I have no idea what's up. I'll update if I figure it out.
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>>52654323
My debian install is complaining that it needs iwlwifi-3160-10, iwlwifi-3160-11 and iwlwifi-3160-12, but I can only find iwlwifi-3160-9

anyone know where to get them?
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>>52661427
Third party repo or package it your self most likely,i dont use debian.
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Well, just got the asus z170a motherboard today.

Old Windows 10 can't boot past MACHINE_EXCEPTION

Old Antergos can't boot past blinking cursor, no ctrl-alt combination can get me into TTY.
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>>52661526
>>52661427
nvm I found -12 and popped it into /lib/firmware and now it works
posting from that machine rn

I have no idea what I'm doing but stuff is still working somehow
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>>52661602

It's weird that Arch Linux is still on kernel 4.4 instead of 4.5, perhaps that's why I can't boot?

I mean, the i915 driver should function without workarounds.
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>>52661637
It's not bleeding edge rape my shit up senpai
Its testing bleeding edge
4.5 is rc1 anyway
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>>52661672
I see, so can I still boot into my old IVYbridge installation or do I need a full reinstall?

Shit even Windows 10 won't load.

I do have a gtx 750 ti attached so maybe if I disable it?
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>>52661605
So I updated the kernel to 4.2.8 because some random site said that would fix my sound and somehow it did

probably a dumb question but why are a whole bunch of distros still using version 3.whatever when version 4.whatever exists?
Is there something about linux version numbers I don't know?
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>>52661691
I would say boot in to a live cd and see what information you can get from it. If it posted and booted you might have some logs that will be helpful. If anything you can chroot and reinstall the kernel, or compile one if you need to, to have driver support
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>>52661753
okay.
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>>52654521
>4.5

Thanks for providing this option for me.
I just installed Mint Linux on my old 256 gig ssd. After updating the drivers for the 970m everything is running smooooth as fuck. Mounted my NAS shares already in fstab, so fuck yeah everything available.
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>>52661703
Some are long-term support kernels.
https://www.kernel.org/
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>>52661766
journalctl was empty
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I accidentally hit some hotkey in i3 and now applications that should be opening in fullscreen aren't automatically opening in fullscreen. Persisted through a reboot. Anyone have and idea what I did?
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https://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html

mod + f

>>52662115
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>>52662181
That just toggles a window. I'm talking applications that should be opening in fullscreen not starting in fullscreen. I can toggle them after they're open, but before I broke something they would start in fullscreen like they're supposed to.
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The Arc dark themes are nice, but goddammit does the dark theme look awful on Iceweasel and Icedove. The darker theme looks really good, but then both Thunar and the xfce4 terminal don't feel right.
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Okay now I can get into Windows but all my drivers are for my old z77 gigabyte mobo.

So, I'll update from inside safe mode
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I just made a digital ocean VPS, and I am having some trouble with SSH and logging in.

I set it up using my desktop, and did the whole ssh key thing described here: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-ssh-keys-with-digitalocean-droplets

So, when I am using my desktop and SSH to the server it connects without asking for a password.

However, I wanted to do the same thing with my laptop. But I can't add the SSH key from there because no matter what I do I cannot log in as root.

I thought for some reason it did Step 6 automatically. But I checked, and PermitRootLogin is still set to 'yes.'

So, why can't I log in on another computer?
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>>52662373
I've been using EndofLight forever but cant find it online anymore
See if you like this
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Hi /flt/, I just purchased a Thinkpad X220 and I'm looking forward to installing Linux on it. I'm thinking of going with Debian first, and the fact that the pasta now includes a ricing script for Debian is only cementing my decision. My question is, what version of Debian should I use? Does it matter? I'd prefer if it didn't require a network connection to install, but I can do it if it's necessary. Or should I write the OS to a USB and boot from that first? My understanding is that Debian can't fully boot from USB and needs to download software from the internet first, or at least, that's what I remember happening when I tried to boot from USB on a different computer.
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>>52662567
Debian has both a small netinstall iso, aswell as a larger install with more packages.
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>>52662600
So if I use the larger installer, will it be able to install wireless network card drivers so I can complete the installation wirelessly? Also, what's the best way to backup windows on the machine in case it all goes tits up? Should I partition the hard drive and install on the partition? If so, can I then remove the Windows partition when I'm done installing?
I'm just worried I'll brick my machine and have wasted a couple hundred dollars.
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Using arch and trying to get the numix icon theme. I installed it from the aur using yaourt and it's installed, but when I go to settings appearance (using xfce) its in the list, but its like the theme isnt installed. It's jsut the generic icons. I rebuilt the font cache and restarted but no dice. Any ideas?
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>>52662678
Is xfce looking in the install path?
I think it installs it to /usr. Make sure xfce is using that path.
Otherwise just download the theme and put it in .themes and point xfce there
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>>52662678
Did you install numix-icon-theme-git?
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>>52654323
Is there any simple guides or videos that goes through the selection of distros and desktop environments for comparison?
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>>52662712
It's install in /usr/share/icons/ with the rest of the system icons
>>52662713
Yes
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>>52662655
I would imagine so, but youll have to see what they include on the larger iso.

You could get an imaging program and have it image your windows machine and store it in a container then you'd just have to reimage it back
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how do I get clementine to show my library by folder structure?
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>>52655176

I'm new to bash scripting but the following bash script prompts you for Artist and Song name. Then it checks Google, fetches the first URL it finds, removes HTML tags (using code from sed1line.txt), replaces &quot; with ", and saves the page as a text file, and displays it in a terminal with the less switch (page up, page down, q to exit).

More editing would be needed to the saved text file to show just the lyrics and not other crap on the page (although some site-specific rules could be made, using grep to identify a site, and sed to remove stuff).

Save as something like lyrics.sh and run with bash lyrics.sh. It uses read, sed, wget, head, grep, cat, less.

#!/bin/bash
read -p "Artist: " artist
artist=$(echo $artist | sed "s/ /+/g")
read -p "Song name: " title
title=$(echo $title | sed "s/ /+/g")
wget -U "" -T 10 --no-check-certificate https://www.google.com/search?q=$artist+$title+lyrics -O lyricspage1.htm
url1=$(grep -o "<h3.*h3>" lyricspage1.htm | head -1 | grep -o "<a href.*\">" | sed -e "s/<a href=..url.q=//" -e "s/\">//" -e "s/\&amp\;rct=.*$//" -e "s/\&amp\;sa=.*$//" -e "s/\&amp\;ei=.*$//")
if [[ -n $url1 ]]; then wget -U "" -T 10 --no-check-certificate $url1 -O lyricsurl1.htm; fi
artist=$(echo $artist | sed "s/+/_/g")
title=$(echo $title | sed "s/+/_/g")
cat lyricsurl1.htm | sed -e :a -e 's/<[^>]*>//g;/</N;//ba' -e "s/&quot;/\"/g">${artist}_${title}_lyrics.txt
echo "saved ${artist}_${title}_lyrics.txt"
cat "${artist}_${title}_lyrics.txt" | less
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>>52662474
why are you trying to login as root? that's retarded
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>>52663005
Looks interesting, thanks for posting!
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Why does this happen on my computer?

$ sudo apt-get install lockout
[sudo] password for momf:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
lockout is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
2 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Setting up g15daemon (1.9.5.3-8.3) ...
Job for g15daemon.service failed. See 'systemctl status g15daemon.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript g15daemon, action "start" failed.
dpkg: error processing package g15daemon (--configure):
subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of g15macro:
g15macro depends on g15daemon; however:
Package g15daemon is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package g15macro (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
g15daemon
g15macro
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


I ran a few commands that are supposed to fix this:

sudo apt-get -f install
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get autoclean
sudo apt-get clean
sudo apt-get autoremove
sudo dpkg --remove -force --force-remove-reinstreq package name

But it didn't help.
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faggots posting:
>apt
>using a shitty package manager
in 3.. 2.. 1...
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>>52663359
>dependency problems
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I am trying to install ubuntu on my dell xps 13 (9350). The trackpad doesn't work. however it worked the last time I boot into the live usb. What do
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>>52654323
i got GCC all set up on my debian virtual machine, and compiled and successfully executed hello world despite not knowing how to program in C and just knowing C++. now i have to make a sum calculator in C with just system calls by march 3. wish me luck
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>>52663508
google is your friend.
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How the heck do you add artwiz pcf fonts to debian? I've enable bitmap fonts, made the folder a font directory, refreshed and reconfigured the font cache, restarted x, tried every local and root directory for fonts but they aren't getting detected at all.
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>>52663425
How do I fix it?
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>>52663359
>>52664071

What distro are you using?

If you Google this you can find all kinds of stuff:
dpkg: error processing package g15daemon (--configure):


Maybe try this:
sudo rm -f /var/cache/apt/archives/*; sudo apt-get update; sudo dpkg --configure -a; sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo apt-get upgrade -y

via
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1830518.html
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How to have the window control button (minimize, maximize, close) embeded to the topbar when maximized on DE other than Unity? i want to use it on xfce
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>>52664362
I don't know about XFCE, but if you're ever on GNOME 3 there's an extension called Pixel Saver that does exactly that.
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>>52654737
i really hope youre joking
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>GNOME
>2016
>segfaults on wifi
>wifi auto connects on boot
>luckily had cinnamon installed
thanks gnome
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>>52664629
He must be installing gentoo.
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I made a user with useradd, but when I log in with ssh there's no bash promt, just sh
I tried copying root's .bashrc and setting the permissions correctly, but it didn't change anything
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Is there a way to capture the output or *open* an already running process in a terminal?

What I mean is; if I was to open something directly from a terminal, it would give me any errors that occur while it's running. But If I was to open that same thing using some other sort of launcher, I wouldn't be able to see jack without digging through logs.
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>>52665188
Gee, Anon. That's certainly a strange request. Any reason you can't just launch from the terminal like you usually would?
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>pacman gives keyring errors
>fix problem by disabling the key checking entirely

Meme OS 2bqh
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>>52662567
Hello again /flt/, I'm this anon. I successfully installed Debian on my new Thinkpad and I like it. However, when I ran the Chocolate Chip script, nothing changed after I rebooted my computer. This is slightly irritating, but not a huge problem.
What is an issue is that wifi is not functional. How do I check if drivers for my wifi card are installed, and if they aren't, how do I install them?
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I'm installing gentoo this morning, which filesystem should I choose?
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>>52665188
>>52665345
I'm sure he could set up a script with .desktop files to run a terminal silently or in the background and echo it to a text file
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Using Ubuntu 14.04 on X230 here.

What's the least painful way to make i3wm lock the screen automatically when lid is closed?

Writing systemd hooks doesn't seem to do anything (it doesn't lock the screen, just goes straight to sleep) and nothing of note shows up on dmesg.

I *can* manually lock and sleep by running "i3lock & sleep" but I'd rather have it triggered automatically by lidclose.

How do I make it happen?
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>>52665603
I think he wants the output to be printed directly to his terminal's screen.
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>>52654666
I feel really bad for people trying to gdt into Arch. This image is so true, luckily it's only like 75% of the userbase.

It's so good for resource limited systems.
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>>52665345
No reason. Just curious as to whether it's possible. I remember trying to find a way to do it at some point because it would have been useful.

>>52665655
Yeah
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>xen kernel doesn't boot because peculiar kernel modules error
>delete xen
>try normal kernel, still won't work perfectly
>spend 2 hours trying to figure out why I can't launch quite a few applications with no specific error
>figure out I accidentally set the process limit too low
>stupid people problems

Well, time to spend the rest of the day compiling chromium-gtk.
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So I started off with Xubuntu 14.04 LTS and redshift didn't work but when I installed the newest version 15.10, it did. My video card is radeon r9 380 and when I checked what cards it supported on 14.04 Hawaii was on there which means it should work, so why wouldn't redshift or f.lux work?
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I just switched from MATE to xfce on Debian

How do I remove all the packages related to MATE?
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So what is the BEST linux?
I can't decide, send help.
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you all use linux and say oh it's open source i can do this i can do that i can contribute

but you fucking don't so shut up and just use windows you goddamn failures at life.

you've disappointed your parents to the point where they wont even attempt to help you any more, they consider their own flesh and blood a lost cause. you are their ultimate failure and for that you should feel shame beyond anything else you've ever experienced. you were brought in to this world to contribute to society and look after your parents when their time is up but instead you complain about how windows users are the devil and non freedom is horrific

you are the ones without freedom. you're locked in your room or basement, it confines you, clouding your view of the world and what could be possible for you

you are a failure. change it. start right now and you can redeem yourself.
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>>52667236
take a deep breath, anon
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>>52667236
>>but you fucking don't so shut up and just use windows you goddamn failures at life.
Go to github.com and count how many linux related shit contributed compared to windows shit.
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I'm trying to rice xterm by just changing the font
I put
xterm*faceName: Lucida Console:size=10:antialias=false
xterm*font: 7x13
xterm*borderWidth: 0

into ~/.Xresources and have its permissions set to -rw-r--r--, but when I open a xterm window, it just uses the ugly default font
Am I doing something simple wrong?
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>>52667236
The only thing your doing is shitposting, anon.
Windows users are not the devil.

How do you know who contributes to Git repos here?

I Do not live in my mothers basement.

My parents love me very much. (My parents also use Linux w/ out problems. Facebook games etc)
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>>52667387
>
xterm*font: 7x13

remove that line
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>>52654908
Nice!
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>>52667387
Also use URxvt like everyon else!
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>>52667455
thanks
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>>52667495
Just fyi, .font is used to set non XFT font strings (the stuff you get when you use xfontsel).
If you want to use a bitmap font like lemon, tewi, etc, you must use .font instead of .fontName to set that font.

Your issue was: .font was set after .fontName so .fontName was ignored.
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is there way to install linux in 4gb usb flash drive without live booting
> everything that happens in usb stays in usb without erashing it in every shutdown
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>>52667608
Instead of selecting the HD, select the USB flash drive when installing.
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>>52667626
basicly my hdd shit itself
i'm now posting from pc which is hooked to usb than has slitaz on it my problem is that everytime i log out or shutdown pc evything in usb get erashed is there any way to fix that before hdd get delivered to me
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Is it possible to use grsec's RBAC to limit only some applications? with apparmor I can simply profile the applications I want to restrain and simply leave everything else "not profiled" working normally.
Is possible to do the same with grsec or am I forced to set rules for the entire system?
>>
What's an easy cli way to remove id3 tags from music files?
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>>52667626
Won't that destroy the content of the flash drive unless you use a separate partition?
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>>52667968
yes, you should choose/create an empty partition
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Debian with xfce here, what bloat do I need to make things look neat? The arc theme had me install gtk murrane and it seriously helped out, but things like Clementine till look like trash.
>>
I've learned more about my computer in one month with Linux than 15 years in Windows. Ignorance is bliss, but knowing is fine too.
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>>52668610
Also, I'm a huge weaboo with a few hundred gigs of chinese cartoon porn, which image viewer can you recommend that looks in compression archives as well?
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How big should my /boot partition be? 100 megabytes seem enough, but I've seen as much as a gigabyte recommended (I've tested it in a vm btw, and 100MB was enough).
Would 200 megabytes be future proof? Should I go with 500?
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>>52658296
>dell xps 13 9350
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dell_XPS_13_%282016%29
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>>52658230
https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Installing_without_systemd
debian minimal testing
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>>52668653
how big is your drive? i use 25% for / and the rest for /home
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>>52668826
1TB. My / is 80 gigs, I don't have a separate /home, but I have a 920 GB data partition. I want to move /boot to a separate partition, so that I can do a full disk encryption.
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>>52668879
my /boot is only 33mb so 100 should be plenty. i recommend using a separate /home just in case you ever change distro or fuck something up.
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>>52667968
fuck off tripfag, nobody cares who you are
>>52668646
ahoviewer
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>>52668610
>clementine
install deadbeef or mpd+ncmpcpcpcppcpcpcpcpcpcp
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>>52668905
Ok thanks. A separate home would be too much hassle for me btw, because I'd either end up wasting gigabytes of space, if I make the home partition too big, or it fills up and I have to shrink other partitions. I make backups regularly anyway.
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>linux
>cant even do basic things
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>>52669090
"basic things"
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>>52669159
""basic things""
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>>52669090
>NT
>can't even do basic things
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Someone knows a friendly but complete rTorrent guide? I put it everything up but I can't get normal trackers, I got only DHT nodes.
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>>52667236
windows shilling is getting heavy lately lmao
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>>52669259
>lmao
lmao
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>>52669235
https://github.com/rakshasa/rtorrent/wiki/User-Guide
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/RTorrent
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>>52669201
i dont get it , its the same with compiz.
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>>52669494
I already checked that 2 to configure it up. I was wondering if they were other links who says more things about it.
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>>52669525
compiz is not a web browser and not an OS
>>52669539
i don't think there are any more extensive guides sorry.
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>>52664629
I did get it to work, i wasn't partitioning the drive properly.

Now I'm working on the login manager/ greeter.

Its arch.
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Is there a way to completely disable my GPU from drawing power on my laptop? It's eating up a huge portion of my battery life and I need the most out of it. Running Arch btw
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>>52669750
care to post relevant data?
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>>52669750
maybe look into this:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Hybrid_graphics
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how do I replace sysvinit and openrc with runit on gentoo?

what the fuck is a getty

I'm scared anon
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>install mint in virtualbox
>in some applications, i.e. dosbox, cursor doesn't work properly, just sticks to the edges of the screen
what do?
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>>52669803
install gentoo
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>>52669834
man dosbox
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>>52669837
gentoo is already installed what next?
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>>52669872
reinstall gentoo
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>>52669854
I guess it's more of a virtualbox issue, because it also happens in other applications, especially in full screen. Even tuxracer has this problem.
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>>52669897
Then I'm sorry, no idea. Maybe check the Virtualbox options, afaik there's something cursor related.
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>>52669915
I'll try. It msut be deeper, because I had the same problem in a winxp virtual machine.
>>
Am I the only linuxfag who enjoys old microsoft systems? windows was pretty nice till win 2000.
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>>52670054
XP was the first Windows phoning home.
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Exactly what is the difference between xfce and mate? as far as i can understand...
>mate is "uglier" tha xfce
>xfce is less developed than mate
>mate is more stable than xfce
>both are light on system resources
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>>52670089
everything, just look at the settings and default programs.
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>>52670089
DE's suck. Go the unix way and install a simple WM.
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so i switched between alsa and pulseaudio in one program and now alsa works fine on that program but everything else is silent even after setting it back to pulseaudio. how do i reset pulseaudio?
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I want to get into disk encryption but I'm lost into the sheer amount of technical info right now.

I don't think I need block device encryption, I just want to restrict access to one directory on my storage hard drives. For example I have Folder/Documents, Folder/ImportantStuff etc.
-> Restrict access to Folder/
What's the easiest way to achieve this?

I also don't understand why anyone would encrypt their whole system, can anyone care to explain?
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>>52670132
pavucontrol
alsamixer
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>>52670132
Check the Configuration tab in pavucontrol, and make sure it's pointing to an analog device and not a digital stream.
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>>52669566
well i guessed that it was a vsync thing , same thing happens to me on firefox/unity to be precise
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>>52670154
> Restrict access to Folder
Take a look into basic permissions.
>chmod
>chown
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>>52670159
yeah i know, i set everything in there so that it should theoretically work, but pulseaudio refuses to work like it did before. it even shows the audio streams but i don't get any output, everything works in the program i set to use alsa.
>>52670171
the configuration worked before. i didn't actually change anything in there.
>>52670192
werks on compton/xfce
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>>52670209
try
pulseaudio -k 
just to strike that
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>>52670223
thanks, that fixed it. any idea what happened or why?
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>>52670204
I'm sorry I'll be more specific: I meant the government taking my laptop away to use my stuff against me. The only thing I can do to prevent that is encryption.

I don't think I have any sensitive data in my system partition but I do in my several storage hard drives that's why I'm looking into encrypting some folders instead of everything.
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>>52670154
>I also don't understand why anyone would encrypt their whole system, can anyone care to explain?

Tinfoil-hattedness, basically.

You'd encrypt the entire system so that if you lose access to your device, the data is completely unavailable.

If you didn't encrypt the entire system, you might for example encrypt some of the tmp directories and other such things so that no one could glean any data from them.

But yeah, encrypting a folder is the most logical thing for most people. Look into EncFS or eCryptFS.
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>>52655537
Qautnum computers are able to analyze a situation, not answer a very narrow question. You'd have to feed it information about the subject until it held enough of that data.
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>>52669770
Tried the one with acpi_call and turn_off_gpu.sh

battery life is the same
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>>52670262
I don't mind the tinfoilhattery I'm just wondering if there's any real life use for this. What kind of important data can be found in /tmp?
I don't have much there myself except the "trash" content.

>EncFS or eCryptFS

I'll look into that thanks.
>>
Linux beginner here.


What is the difference between Debian and Fedora? And which distro would you recommend?
>>
I put xubuntu on a HP netbook, pretty slow still. I haven't done much to it, any idea of what themes that provide space and make it a little faster?
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>>52670348
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>>52670348
Fedora users wear silly hats.
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What the fuck Skylake? I give you
i915.preliminary_hw_support=1
and you still freeze half way through installation.

Then Windows 10 gives me "MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION".

I can't tell if its the DDR4 2133 or the default Asus z170-a Settings...
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>>52670348
Debian has lots of packages but they're old. Fedora doesn't have a lot of packages but they're new. Just use Ubuntu.
>>
Now using the Antergos testing iso... maybe this will work
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>>52667151
install gentoo
>>
What's antegros like? How's the installer? how much bloatware is there? Any other differences from arch?

I've used arch for a while so I'll probably just end up putting that on my new laptop anyway
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>>52670889
>How's the installer?
shitty, i've never sen an installer break so much
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>>52670348
I'd recommend debian sid (unstable). I have apt-listchanges and apt-listbugs installed, and I don't update when there are bugs or when apt says that a bunch of packages are not needed anymore. I usually wait a day or two until they fix their shit and update then.
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>>52670889
>Any other differences from arch?
Except for an extra repo and defaults, no, it's essentially vanilla arch
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>>52670923
>>52670907
Interesting, does it come with yaourt by default?
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>>52670889
Manjaro is probably easier to maintain since they do a bit of hand-holding.
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>>52670956
yes, you need to select "AUR support" inside the installer
>>
>all these fags too lazy following the simple arch wiki install guide
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Antergos has the option of installing Steam and PlayonLiinux, extra fonts, firefox, LTS kernel
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>>52671001
wow ...
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>>52670981
Cool, I'll check it out
>>52670965
I've heard of this, doesn't it use a separate repo for some reason?
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OH MY FUCKING GOSH IT WORKED AFTER ONE DAY OF TRYING, JUST USING THE FUCKING TESTING ISO WORKS

muhahahahahaha
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Is there an alternative to Resources Monitor from Windows on Linux? It was very useful to know where your data is being sent.
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>>52670985
>there are several ways to achieve the same rsult
and you're all over here like
>hurr you didn't choose the most tedious and boring way, what a fag
grow up kiddo
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>>52671029
>I've heard of this, doesn't it use a separate repo for some reason?

Yes, generally for reserving packages until they're deemed stable through testing
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>>52671058
Any other differences ?
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>>52671055
If you want Arch, install Arch the Arch way or don't. Arch isn't a newfag OS. Even if you use an installer, you will fail using the OS itself.
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>>52671078
>Any other differences ?
They rename some packages. You'll also find it difficult to get help on the official Arch BBS if you tell them you're troubleshooting Manjaro...
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>>52671098
>do it my way or your wrong
fuck off kid
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inb4 Gentoo install wizard
inb4 threads starting with:
>i just installed gentoo, please help
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>>52666105
It's really not 75% of the userbase. You need to stop mistaking /g/ as a valid representation of the rest of the world.
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>>52671115
>fuck off kid
underage confirmed
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>>52667236
Wish I had the time to get this angry about other people's computers
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>>52671138
Vaseline in your anus. Just get back on topic.
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>>52671138
yeah because only a child would understand the merits of doing things the easy way when there is literally no difference in the achieved result
once again fuck off kid
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>>52671098
This, to be perfectly honest.

The whole point of installing Arch is to do everything yourself to a reasonable degree and make the system whatever you want it to be. That starts with the installer, too, along with other packages.

Otherwise, there's no real point to using Arch over, say, Debian.
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>>52654323
why I do rsync /* to backup all my files on a separate computer it gets through a lot of the files and then hangs at proc/kcore am I doing something wrong?

the full command i'm using is
rsync -u -v -a -e ssh /* [email protected]:/home/eddy/backups/t420
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>>52671173
no, the whole appeal of arch is that it's the only usable rolling release distro
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>>52670704
That's a really poorly executed analogy.
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>>52671171
You dont archive the same result.
I think you expect Arch is the same like Ubuntu, just without installer, but it really isnt. If youre not able to install Arch, you're not able to run Arch.
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>>52671219
>hurr your using it wrong
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>>52671235
you're sucking his cock the wrong way, get back on topic.
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>>52671252
the proper way to install arch is not the topic broseph
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Antergos installs Clementine by default when selecting the KDE option, FUCK YEAH
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>>52671284
and VLC, oh shit
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Next thread:
>>52671344
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Guys, Arch is made to be simple and lightweight.
It comes without installer and bloat for a reason so you can choose and install what you really want/need. Using an installer with automatic DE/etc install is retarded, you're better off using Manjaro or Mint. I bet it's all about the logo and the 1337 feel, isn't it?
>look at my Arch at my screenfetch
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>>52671344
why I do rsync /* to backup all my files on a separate computer it gets through a lot of the files and then hangs at proc/kcore am I doing something wrong?

the full command i'm using is
rsync -u -v -a -e ssh /* [email protected]:/home/eddy/backups/t420
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>>52667151
There is no best distro. There are different distros. You choose based on what you need, and if you're not looking for anything particular, draw up a list and randomize the choice.

If you're migrating from Windows, try Zorin. Or just go with one of the *buntus. Or Mint. Or OpenSUSE. Or Fedora or Korora. Or go with vanilla Debian and read https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
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>>52670118
CDE is one of the most unix-y UI's you could use on linux, and it's a DE
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>>52664269
>What distro are you using?
Debian 8.2 Jessie.
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>>52672579
we 8.3 now
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>>52671178
several folders from / shouldn't be backed up, as they are simply mountpoints for other things
/proc for example, is empty on disk, and a virtual filesystem is mounted onto it during boot, its contents only exist while the kernel is running

use the -x argument to ensure rsync will only see files on the source filesystem (ignoring things mounted under it)
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>>52671219
>If youre not able to install Arch, you're not able to run Arch.
Without being rudely argumentative, I'm genuinely curious. How is Arch run differently? Debianfag myself.
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The result: char limit made me screenshot the first bit, that I cut out of this.

[sudo] 
2 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Setting up g15daemon (1.9.5.3-8.3) ...
Job for g15daemon.service failed. See 'systemctl status g15daemon.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript g15daemon, action "start" failed.
dpkg: error processing package g15daemon (--configure):
subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of g15macro:
g15macro depends on g15daemon; however:
Package g15daemon is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package g15macro (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
g15daemon
g15macro
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
2 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Setting up g15daemon (1.9.5.3-8.3) ...
Job for g15daemon.service failed. See 'systemctl status g15daemon.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript g15daemon, action "start" failed.
dpkg: error processing package g15daemon (--configure):
subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of g15macro:
g15macro depends on g15daemon; however:
Package g15daemon is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package g15macro (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
g15daemon
g15macro
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
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>>52670784
>Debian has lots of packages but they're old.
It's because those packages work. You can't have turbonew packages and stability at the same time. It's either older packages that are well tested and patched or new ones that may cause problems. Debian packages are not old as in outdated, they're old as in not the latest version. They backport security fixes and features from newer versions.

>>52671098
Why would you go through the tedious task of installing Arch manually when you can Architect the system?

>>52671357
>I bet it's all about the logo and the 1337 feel, isn't it?
It clearly is for people like you who think installing Arch with Architect is wrong and that you must install it manually. It's like you're jealously guarding your 1337 fantasy. There is no rational reason for your stance. When it comes down to it, Arch is no more elite than Ubuntu. Only users can be elite, regardless of whether they use Ubuntu, Arch, or something else. Let's face it, even an idiot can install Arch manually by following the instructions. Nothing magical about it.
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