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Can I get some proof of Windows 10 botnet? I have to confront an edgy winfag who thinks win 10 is better than every operating system and has no spyware embedded.

>inb4 poo in loo
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poo in loo
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poo in loo
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poo in loo
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https://edri.org/microsofts-new-small-print-how-your-personal-data-abused/

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/servicesagreement/default.aspx
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>>52645500
Theres a Webm rolling around where Windows literally broadcasts every single fucking keystroke you make to a windows server
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someone post that webm of the guy using wireshark to show that windows periodically takes snapshots of your desktop and uploads it.
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>>52645598
>>52645597
Yes please
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poo in loo please.
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Poo in loo
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poo in loo
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There is no solid proof, just some circumstantial evidence.

>see this program still runs
>see this program uploads data

if you ask them what the data is or what the program does exactly they don't know, but they are certain it must be shit that is spying on you.
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>>52645597
> Being this stupid
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my son, your stomach hurts
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DESIGNATED
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>>52646603
SHITTING
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>>52646627
STREETS
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>>52645500
I don't get it, why would people say poo in loo to you? Did you say you're Pakistani or something?
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>>52645500
I don't think you and Pajeet should be friends anymore anon
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>>52645500
why do you need to confront someone? just fucking chill out and stop thinking you're superior than other people because they don't like the same shit as you. retard.
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>>52646411
>information is sent to Bing servers with Bing disabled
>information is sent to Cortana servers with Cortana disabled
>information is sent to OneDrive servers with OneDrive disabled
"Huh, must be a good reason for this! I can't think of a single innocent reason they would need to send that information, but this is Microsoft! They would NEVER do anything immoral to make money!"

M$ does not deserve the benefit of the doubt.
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No, no evidence has ever been shown to exist, just memes.
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>>52646780
Fuck off pajeet
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W10 comes along and suddenly all previous Windows versions are backdoor proof
lol
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>>52646805
Can you explain this meme? Is it because the CEO of Microsoft is Indian? Because the Google CEO is also Indian.
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>>52646805
Sure, as soon as you provide a single shred of evidence. You've gotten a full year with that wireshark, haven't you tinfoil?
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Windows 10 is free and great. Frankly, I think all the "privacy issues" are overblown. It is the best, more secure, and most advanced operating system available today, from the biggest software company in the world. There's absolutely no reason they would need to spy on you.
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>>52646778
so.. no proof, just paranoia
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>>52646830
because there are literal indian shills here
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>>52646840
POO POO POO
EVERYWHERE
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>>52646844
the only proof you need is to read the privacy policy
that would be considered common sense, but you're not here for that, you're only here to troll
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A broad overview:
http://www.howtogeek.com/224616/30-ways-windows-10-phones-home/?PageSpeed=noscript
howtogeek is usually pretty crappy, but this article is good.
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>>52646892

being this threatened by google you'll turn the entire computer into an advertising machine
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>>52646844
Data is sent to MS servers even when the features that would send it are disabled. No one knows quite what this data is. MS sure isn't talking.

But that isn't anywhere near the strongest proof. You posted this strawman:
>see this program still runs
>see this program uploads data
That is already cause for concern, but isn't the real evidence. There is no NEED for evidence since MS freely admits that data is sold to advertisers. Users have a literal advertising ID!

>paranoia
Expecting MS to be evil is paranoia?
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>>52646884
thats just legalese to cover their asses because americans are so known to sue everyone for everything.

Read any term of service/privacy policy and it will say very similar things

https://www.eff.org/who-has-your-back-government-data-requests-2015#microsoft-report

Like I said, its just tinfoil paranoia, you are free to use any other OS if you want, no one is forcing you to use windows.
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>>52646844
There's tons of proof that this data is used for nefarious purposes, Dikshit. It has been posted repeatedly.

Not that's it's needed. It doesn't matter WHY information is sent to MS. All that matters is THAT it is sent with no user consent. The user has no say in what data MS collects. You can live in your naive fantasy world where MS is a nice company that cares about you and would NEVER sell your data to advertisers, but that doesn't change the fact that they gather information from your machine and you are powerless to stop them.

Well, not QIUTE powerless. You could install Linux.
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Most of these privacy stuff people are shitting themselves about has been done by apple and google years before and they still continue to do it. If these same people cared this much about privacy they would boycott all these corporations.
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>>52646976
>https://www.eff.org/who-has-your-back-government-data-requests-2015#microsoft-report
That is for GOVERNMENT requests. We are not talking about them. We are talking about MS selling your data to advertisers, using your machine to distribute updates, nagging you into buying MS software, and generally exploiting users and their belongings for profit.

>you are free to use any other OS if you want, no one is forcing you to use windows.
I'm not some selfish PoS who lets others be exploited. I obviously ditched Windows, but many other people still use it. I think I have a moral obligation to let them know how evil these companies are and help them get their privacy and freedom back.
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>>52647020
>All that matters is THAT it is sent with no user consent.
Lol, no.
You consent when you click "agree"
Don't like it ? Don't install it.

No proof has been produced, instead you people twist around regular shit as if its used for nefarious purposes, like

>7. Location and location history – Your location is shared with individual apps that you choose to share it with. Location history is also available to apps, and stored only on your local device — and just for 24 hours. But apparently some data is shared with Microsoft and its trusted partners if you have location services enabled.

wow, fucking nothing
its ok when google knows your location, or when they start giving you targeted ads after you search for something but when MS does the same thing its
>ugh fucking M$
>fucking evil empire!
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>>52647021
>apple and google
Oh, wow. It's just fine for MS to fuck over users, since Apple and Google are even worse. They're only the THIRD most evil tech company in the world!
That's like saying someone is a good person because they aren't as bad as Stalin.

>If these same people cared this much about privacy they would boycott all these corporations.
Most of us do so.
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>>52647080
>You consent when you click "agree"
Exactly. You sign away your rights when you install Windows.

Is that IMMORAL? Don't know. Don't care, either. It doesn't really matter. Whether or not it's immoral, it's a bad product. Whether or not it's immoral, you'd have to be a fool to use it.

>its ok when google knows your location, or when they start giving you targeted ads after you search for something
Literally no one is saying this. Almost no one on this board is OK with Google's privacy invasions, either. For the record, I think Google is among the most dangerous companies in the entire world.

Fuck off, Dikshit.
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>>52647080
>>52647021
>google
Who on this board thinks Google is a paragon of virtue? Most people here you use a search engine that respects your privacy, e.g. startpage or DDG. Most people suggest running a uBlock Origin and noscript to escape from Google's advertising infrastructure.

Our distruct of Google is literally in the stickie:
>https://startpage.com/ or https://duckduckgo.com
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>>52647154
>Literally no one is saying this. Almost no one on this board is OK with Google's privacy invasions, either.
and then all you guys ever say is
>the botnet

some catch all phrase because who needs proof.


Most of the stuff is over blown as fuck, its like when you read the permissions some apps need, and then when you think about it it would make sense that whatsapp or whatever might need access to your camera.
>its not because its spying on you
if Microsoft really cared to spy on you, why would it even give you all these options to turn it off, or tell you about so much of it ?

if you allegations could be proven I'm sure some privacy commisioner somewhere would like to hear about it so they could fine these companies hundreds of millions of dollars, but again users agree and there isn't anything nefarious about what they do. It might not align with your views, but its not unreasonable in the publics eye and its not illegal.
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>>52645500
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/

and now fuck off, Pajeet
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>>52647105
>>52647182
You guys might be more knowledgeable but from seeing the small replies I got it seems most people here are more interested in shitposting with others without learning. I wasn't referring to people like you guys however. But what other OS would you use? As far as I know Linux doesn't have the help services available that apple/microsoft have so that makes people like myself tend to use these OS.
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You're thinking of the Insider builds, with Full telemetry force-enabled. ("Full" option is not even available on release builds.)

Release builds of Windows 10, set appropriately, not installed with Express Settings and with the more pernicious privacy settings turned off, aren't that bad, according to my own research.

There are a couple of oft-quoted sources of people running Wireshark, cluelessly oblivious that Win10 effectively torrents Windows Updates throwing the results, or about DNS prefetching, or that Basic telemetry (i.e. what software/hardware you have installed) is essential for an OS update mechanism and nothing that pacman or apt don't do.

To anyone with a counterpoint: IDA Pro dumps with base addresses, or GTFO. I've never seen anyone with actual proof of the Windows object code doing anything particularly nefarious.

The "muh botnet" makes you sound like paranoid idiots to normies and dumb frogposters to those of us who know what a botnet actually is. Unhelpful.

I do have strong criticism of the default settings, however. They're invasive in a way people got used to when Google or Apple do it on phones but is unprecedented on desktops.

But don't go running outdated no-longer-developed versions of an OS from a vendor you don't trust because you're misinformed. All the information you need to answer your questions is in the binaries, and there are too many trolls and shills to blindly believe unsupported opinions or screenshots.
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>>52647519
see >>52647223
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>>52646976
>Just because they say they can do it, doesn't mean they will
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>>52647519
>"Full" option is not even available on release builds

Uh huh, sure. Some great """research""" you did there, pajeet.
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>>52647700
>hates on windows 10
>uses windows 10
the irony
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>>52647721

It's just muh vidya machine. Don't give a flying fuck what's on it.

Stop trying to save face.
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>>52647519
>paranoid frogposters
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>>52647519
>Basic telemetry (i.e. what software/hardware you have installed) is essential for an OS update mechanism and nothing that pacman or apt don't do.

Why do you lie?
And how is collecting my IMEI number essential for updates to work?
Fuck off, Ganesh.
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>>52645500
prajeet new tactic for trying to start positive dialogue about win10?
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I have win10 and packet inspection with wireshark. or server grade router shows anything sent back
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>>52648114
learn to english
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>>52648120
i just woke up dont be so hard on me
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>>52645500
Pool in loo
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>>52645500
Literally, poo in loo
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>>52645637
watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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>>52646774
This 2bh fami. Stop being an autist.
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>>52646589
That is all the proof necessary
Also have an upvote, will check my VM for missed settings
Xoxo anon
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Everything is a fucking botnet to you people.. what the fuck is wrong with you all.. It reminds me of dumb cunts who believe in supernatural things or aliens coming to invade us and UFO's..
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>>52645500

there you go. now poo to loo
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/g/ is /pol/ in the loo
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>>52648713
all 4chan is /pol/
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>>52648695
/thread
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>>52647519
>telemetry (i.e. what software/hardware you have installed) is essential for an OS update mechanism and nothing that pacman or apt don't do.
GNU/Linux updates doesn't work that way, illiterate indian
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>>52648695
I'd like proof that those IP's are MS's servers please
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>le /g/ botnet meme
at least use the word "botnet" right you autists
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>>52648824
>too stupid to look after an IP by itself
>>>/out/
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It because of you "tech savy" people disabling whatever data collecting that makes Windows shit.

Microsoft only gets the normie data
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>>52648695
>turn Windows update on
>oh my god Windows is communicating with Microsoft for some reason?!?!?!?
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>yfw pakistan also has designated streets
>designated food streets

do pakis eat there and then go to india to shit in the designated shitting streets???
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>>52648861
Everything that could have been switched off was switched off in that video.
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>>52648861
searching the files on your computer shouldn't connect you to the internet
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>>52648879
They're just as worthless as indians. Hell, pakis are indians. Everyone in that region is a designaed indian.

> Pooping on the beach in India
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixJgY2VSct0

> Take The Poo To The Loo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_peUxE_BKcU

>inb4 superpower by 2030 due to the space program
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>>52648472
Kys faglord
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>>52648910
superpower by 2030, pooperpower now
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>>52648899
Cortana is literally an internet search.
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>>52648938
But that guy did disable online searches; do you see any web results in there?
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/g/ - designated
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>>52648953
ah well fuck me

is there any possible way to disable this shit + the keylogger then?
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>>52649030
lol no
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>>52648857
I see you've never opened wireshark before. Packets fly around near constantly whether you're doing anything or not.
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>>52649087
Not in Windows 7
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>>52645505
>>52645532
>>52645581
>samefagging this hard.
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>>52649169
>projecting this much
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>>52649202
Projecting what? How much of a faggot you are?
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>>52649324
certainly not projecting any poo into a loo, Ganesh
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>>52645500
Just shiw him eula
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSa7lpoRvWc
How are you doing
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>>52645500
He literally just needs to read the Privacy Policy.
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>>52647213
>if Microsoft really cared to spy on you, why would it even give you all these options to turn it off, or tell you about so much of it ?
Because it would be a much bigger problem if they didn't tell you about it and sysadmins noticed tons of traffic going to Microsoft.

Second, you don't know if they are giving options or not because it connects to Microsoft servers for N things regardless of your telemetry settings. It could be (or not be) a dead switch, but its nearly impossible to verify it.
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>>52647519
Whatever you say "certified microsoft technician".
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>>52647519
>Basic telemetry (i.e. what software/hardware you have installed) is essential for an OS update mechanism and nothing that pacman or apt don't do.
You are literally lying. Are you paid for posting here?
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