>>52643909 I bought a nexus 5x with a fingerprint scanner on the back Very nice, I wouldn't even bother buying a phone without one That instant unlock when you pick your phone up is so good I wouldn't buy an iPhone with one since it would record your prints
Personally I don't see the point in having one, since I don't really need to lock the screen behind a security wall. My phone is always in my pocket or next to me, realistically there's no chance that it would get stolen or used by anyone else but me.
So it seems to me it's a feature that was implemented in phones to provide manufacturers with a new selling point and marketing pitch. I've never been in the situation in which locking my phone was absolutely necessary. I just don't leave it alone in a room and don't forget things behind me.
>>52644271 i have to have a lock screen on my phone - my last internship (MSR) said in plain terms that my passcode had to be 6 digits or better (no more 4 digit shit) and my research advisor at university has gotten me access to datasets that we have to keep secure. that includes locking our phones in the event that identity needs to be proven (using 2FA).
but even if none of that was the case, i leave my phone on my desk when i'm at my computer and it's often charging (not because it's always dead, but just to top off), and if a friend (best case) picks it up i don't want them to immediately be able to dig through it for whatever shenanigans they have in mind.
>useless feature >picking up the phone still requires you to touch the fingerprint sensor so it's a two step process >no security whatsoever in actuality >watch most any TV show or movie these days and see how easy it is to defeat the biometric shit
If someone wants in a device, they won't have any issues beating the shit out of you till you're unconscious then just grabbing a finger to unlock the device, even if they have to cut the fucking finger off. If it was a retinal sensor, same result: if they want in, they're going to get in.
All other security methods are superior to anything biometric.
I think it's great because I'm not a crazy weirdo who cares whether my phone can stand up to NSA-level hacking. 1. It keeps your friends from grabbing your phone to read your shit, 2. makes unlocking your phone easier than even the no-security slider, 3. lets you still keep your lock screen for when you just want to check out notifications just by not touching the sensor
My last phone was an iPhone 6 and my new one is a Nexus 6P. I didn't really care about the fingerprint scanner before I bought them but now it really does shag me off if I have to put in the password. The Nexus scanner is unbelievable, so accurate and easy, you just touch any part of your index finger to it and you're in. Better than the iPhone scanner. Both are good though.
It's certainly a nice feature, especially placed in the way it's used in the 6P and 5X, but it's also not that big of a deal to me personally. I wouldn't shell out extra cash for a phone with that feature or go out of the way to find one.
I hated the idea when I first got my S5 but I spend so much time on the road using YouTube and Pandora for music thay I recently started using it because it's easier than trying to type in a code in traffic and I really like the convenience of it
>>52644637 With each new generation of smartphones, companies are trying to bring new features to make their phone have a competitive edge, whether or not those features are really necessary. Those features use extra power, which hampers real progress in batter life. All these sensors need to monitor the phone all the time, checking for relevant cues.
>>52644694 this. i laughed it off as a gimmick till i got my ip6. never needing to enter passcode (after bootup) is great. also, plenty of apps that use fingerprint scanner for keychain access like cibc visa, amex, dropbox, etc)
Biometrics are rapidly becoming outpaced by new tech and they're barely established as an authentication method. Eye scanners have already been proven pointless by today's image quality.
It's another sci-fi dream that just isn't as effective as the latest versions of the boring stuff we already use. I mean, it's really cool and pretty convenient, definitely. But as far as security goes, if someone is trying to crack your phone, you're better off with a passcode.
>>52644494 Despite the shilling, anon is actually right. Ever looked up the gumi bear method of defeating fingerprint scanners? Not to mention some devices let you use an xhd photo to unlock the device.
>>52644271 like this guy >>52644823 said smartphones nowadays are paramount to wallets (access bank info, nfc payment, sensitive e-mails, etc). sure you don't expect your house to burn down in the middle of the night, because you make every reasonable precaution to prevent that from happening, but it's sure as fuck good to have a fire alarm just in fucking case. same deal with your smartphone, having a passcode & biometrics security is important for the situations you can't account for. you pass out somewhere due to a sudden illness, or you get pick pocketed, or you get drunk and leave your shit on the bar counter, etc etc.
>>52644610 >and then make sure the battery lasts me throughout the day like with magic? are you saying you'll ignore it if you get a notification if you know you're not rationing use sufficiently? this makes no sense.
>>52643909 Fingerprint scanner is just an other thing that can break. Like the back glass panel.
Just think of the iPhone. Thing got a fingerprint scanner in the home button that inevitably fails. Home button replaced with regular plastic "dumb" home button. OS update scans for unofficial hardware, recognizes missing home button and bricks the phone.
>>52644933 >smartphones nowadays are paramount to wallets (access bank info, nfc payment, sensitive e-mails, etc) lol no >bank app requires its own PIN to open >doing >>anything<< from within the bank app that goes beyond moving money between my own accounts requires two-step verification with a proper password as well as a card with 200 keys on it that the login process picks a random, unused key from
>using nfc payment >ever
>have three emails - personal, work/serious, and trash >nothing sensitive ever goes in personal email, which is the only one accessible from smartphone without a password
Worst thing someone could do if they got their hands on my smartphone is shitpost at my friends on Skype. Oh no !
>>52645188 yeah that was my point. if you're a fucking basement dweller who does nothing of value on your phone then sure why bother with a passcode. on the other hand people who actually enjoy using technology for things of any import can do so with some piece of mind knowing there are reasonable safeguards in place to protect their interests
>>52644622 You have to set a backup password/code too so you can unlock with that if you can't with the fingerprint.
Frankly though I don't care. It really isn't added security, lifted fingerprints can be used, with highed resolution cameras some people basically upload their fingerprint to their social media as well.
>>52643909 I keep accidentally unlocking my phone when I just want to check the time. My finger is too slow to stop it. Then I have to lock it again. I feel like an old man with these newfangled scanners.
>>52645265 Why do you need finger prints for this? Any lock screen is sufficient, I use one of those 3x3 connect the dots, it takes me like 3 seconds. Some times stops me from opening it when I mega drunk. If anything this new security feature, is just a bloated way to find and store finger prints.
>>52644125 Thieves are just going to cut off your finger, that has happened many times.
> But it won't work if the finger is cut off, it needs the bloodflow.
They will still cut your finger off. And the police won't do anything about a stolen phone (there are easier ways to shoot people) so the thief will get away with it. A fingerprint also has less security than a password, because in the case of fingerprints they "know" what the password is. And you have your fingerprint all over the device, they just need to copy it.
>>52644335 I would actually argue that the IR blaster is useful to some. For me personally, personally, I keep my old LG Volt around because the remote to my TV broke. I don't use the phone for anything else, but it saves me from having to spend a few extra bucks on a new universal remote.
>>52646135 yeah exactly, thieves are more likely to commit attempted murder/aggravated assault rather than threaten you with a gun to divulge your password or bank pin and get away scott free /s also you are totally on point about fingerprints on phones. it's not like phone manufacturers coat their phones in olephobic material. not to mention the thousands of fingerprint lifting and fingerprint scanner bypass how-to videos on youtube. talk about useless right!
>ctrl+gloves Nobody? I work in a cancer lab and while nitrile gloves are not *required*, most of my colleagues wear them because exposure to things like xylene and certain dyes (looking at you, carbolfucshin) is a serious health hazard that should be avoided at all costs.
I have also gone from strictly using Swype to only using Fleksy because the gloves make it damn near impossible to swipe full strings of works across the entirety of the screen.
>>52646255 >laptop fingerprint scanner I completely forgot my Lenovo X1 Carbon even has one. I tried to set it up when I first got it but I said fuck it as it was taking forever to get a solid scan on my index finger.
Besides, I use this as a school/personal computer. The only things I'd worry about if it was stolen are the gfur folders I have, the n00dz of my girlfriend, and the passwords I have saved.
>>52643909 Positive on iOS hardware, as Apple actively cares about their users privacy, since that's a selling point for the iDevices.
Negative on Android hardware where I know it won't be protected in the slightest and if the phone itself isn't just phoning home and sending my fingerprint data with it, some malware will gleefully extract and send on that data.
Absolutely HARAM on Windows Phone where it's 100% guaranteed that your fingerprint will be sent to NSA.
>>52646322 >>using your personal cellphone at work Implying... what exactly?
>you could also take your gloves off you fucking retard I can tell you've never taken off a glove after having it on for 2 hours and then trying to put it back on when your hand AND the inside of the glove is clammy from sweat. Not to mention, replacing a glove every single time I need to unlock my phone is just idiotic.
>>52646396 >implying Apple won't quietly give the NSA what they want the instant they get a letter demanding it
However, if the NSA wanted your fingerprint so badly, they wouldn't even need to mess with your phone. Just drop by on trash day and grab some junk. Your prints will be all over it. Or do you wipe down every last bit of trash before throwing it out?
>>52649880 >I prefer Windows Hello it's much mire secure than a finger print reader >Couldn't recognize you. Swipe up to enter PIN. >Swipe up. >Unlocks phone, doesn't ask for PIN at all. I don't think so bruh. At least not until they fix it.
>>52651946 >could a finger print be spoofed? Easily. Security wise, fingerprint scanners are completely pointless. They're neat in terms of unlocking your phone faster, but if security is what you're looking for, never ever use a fingerprint scanner for anything.
1. Never lock your phone. Why? Cuz you never put anything on it that you need to protect. 2. Don't buy or tape over fingerprint reader on purchase. *Never* give your biometrics willingly! 3. WTF is wrong with this world? Did IQs drop sharply in the past 10 years?
>>52652084 Unless there's some hidden update I'm missing, yeah, there are no updates to be found either in settings -> update or on the Windows store.
The iris scanning part works fine. It's quick to recognize me and unlock the phone. But when I provoke a failure to recognize me or let someone else fail to get recognized, it doesn't ask for my PIN like it should upon swiping up. Just unlocks the phone with no PIN, rendering Windows Hello entirely pointless.
>>52652390 Was already on fast ring, went to production. >Check for updates >MICROSOFTMDG update for Windows Phone. Guessing that's the firmware update that you apparently don't get if you're set to receive insider previews.
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