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If you plan to get further into this hobby after your first keyboard, either reds or browns should be fine (I recommend reds since browns just feel like muddy linears) just to give you a taste of mechanical keyboards.
If you want to get a keyboard and be done with it for the next three years, get a switch tester (or two for a larger range) and find the one that appeals to you the most. Then import a keyboard from wherever you can find it and suck up the import tax and whatever. Make sure to get something with a standard layout (e. g. no gaymen bottom row) and that you're sure of you won't grow to dislike with time (e. g. a fullsize and then you realize a TKL would suit you better).
Either way, if you want to eventually upgrade from your first keyboard you'll probably have to suck it up and deal with import tax. Or get a seller who's willing to declare it as an 18 bucks keyboard.
It's not really that huge of a market when you consider how much of a niche hobby mechanical keyboards are.
Though I'd love to actually own a store in which I'd sell keyboards and do keyboard services and tell customers about which keyboard is suited the best for their needs and budget. That'd be amazing.
if you're looking to cheap out, there's a nice filco TKL clone for $65 on amazon with actual cherry red/browns
for blues I'd still suggest cm quickfire rapid because it's so cheap
Is there anything more comfy than wearing tights and writing feminine spaghatti code all afternoon?
I'll be the counterpoint and say that I despise reds for either typing or gaming. A switch tester is worth it if you don't know what you're doing IMO, it's a lot cheaper than buying a keyboard you don't like at $70 than figuring out which one you do like for an extra $15-20
>doesn't ship to UK
Looking for my first mech. Was thinking about something with MX Clears (e.g. CODE) but by the time it arrives it's going to cost a hell of a lot.
I am currently split for getting the TKL w/ Clears or going for something a little more unique like the Matias Mini Quiet Pro.
Does anyone have experience with them?
You'd also have to make the entire store in multiple languages if you'd want much traction. Sure, a significant portion of Europe speaks or at least understands English, but the germans and french, for example, generally only know basics if that(although the target market would probably have higher rate of being good at English).
What is it recently with a bunch of faggot OPs just waiting to make a new thread
You aren't cool
I want a mechanical keyboard. Are all the keys basically the same, since they all use cherrymx switches? I was going to swap them out anyway.
by this I mean, will aftermarket keycaps work with nearly anything with 'cherry switches' ???
I was going to get a cm quickfire or something cheaper if I can find it.
>since they all use cherrymx switches
no they don't
>aftermarket keycaps work with nearly anything with 'cherry switches'
depends from board to board, for example corsair boards have weird bottom row
>by this I mean, will aftermarket keycaps work with nearly anything with 'cherry switches'
Yes, just make sure the modifier keys are all standard sizes otherwise an aftermarket set won't fit.
Someone clearly didn't do their research.
No, not all mechanical keyboards use cherry switches. Look at different keyboards before you buy. There are other companies besides cherry, but cherry makes the best. And aftermarket keycaps will fit if they are designed to cherry switches.
Are these keyboards really worth it? I don't really do any typing and I'm happy with my HP multimedia keyboard because it has volume control keys, I don't see these on any of these keyboards. But this keyboard feels very flimsy and I suspect its going to break any minute.
Why would you want a keyboard with a nonstandard layout to begin with?
Also, it's hardly a custom layout, since it's just a Choc mini with no F row.
If I was gonna go through that much trouble, I'd copy the VA68M.
Just picked this up, 90 aud.
How'd I do? Cherry red switches.
The backlight was one reason I got it, since I prefer gaming in the dark.
I do most my productivity on my laptop.
They name their products off ancient weapons it seems.
So do you
Sometimes, but it's pretty rare.
I just prefer using my computer in the dark though and a backlight on the keyboard would help immensely. I can remember where most keys are, but sometimes I just my bearings and have to look, in the dark it's not easy.
Reminder that it's a good idea to back out of Granite now.
The keys are too inconsistent for the price, and if you really want to get a set, they're going to start showing up on the marketplace more and more as the April 18th deadline approaches. Everybody with a Granite set is going to start worrying that their kit is going to lose value, and you won't have any problem finding a set.
On the other hand, you can spend $150, wait for at least 3 months, receive at least half of a defective set, send them back, wait another month, and then possibly have a complete accurate set.
I have 8 kits in my cart right now, deciding it's not worth it. Going to spend the money on something newer and more interesting.
This is especially true if you were purchasing the 'Text' set rather than the 'Icon'.
That's pretty cool, but my desktop doesn't have that and my laptop is already backlit.
I was going to get a cheap chinkshit backlit one on eBay but I saw I could get this relatively cheap.
Is it good?
Found it on a second hand site for 10€.
No? There's just one guy forcing that word. The only thing arguably wrong with it is that the Chinese QC might not hold up over time but that can't possibly be determined for many more months. Every review I've seen for it has been at least average.
conceptually, i feel like if you're gonna include a navigation cluster in your 60% board, 4 keys is almost as useless as having no keys at all
in practice, I feel like this board was conceived as nothing more than massdrop bait because it's a compromise 60% board that excels in nothing, and it's price reflects that
>keyboard I want only comes in 60% and 80%
>get an 80%
>constantly reaching for a numberpad only find it isn't there
Will this horrible feeling ever go away? Will typing out numbers ever feel as comfy as it did with a numberpad?
A single row of numbers is harder to find position on when doing dedicated number input. It would be one thing if there were homing keys or some such, but there aren't. The tenkey is laid out in a format that is very easy to muscle-memorise, with the added benefit of being one-handed.
It's hardly massdrop bait considering the layout was already implemented by Varmilo and Magicforce copied it (whoever that is). It's been for sale in China, the guys at MD just managed to arrange a group buy. It's not as if the board was designed for massdrop buyers.
And the point of the 68 key layout is that it copies Leopold's FC660 layout but maintains a fully standard 2.75u L-Shift so any keycap set can work on it. The 4 key cluster is just to there to fill in the space, otherwise it'd be blank.
This layout is absolutely perfect for anyone who ever thought "I want a TKL, but I don't need the F row, and I want to keep the arrow keys." (like me)
>"I want a TKL, but I don't need the F row, and I want to keep the arrow keys." (like me)
literally nobody has ever thought that
people buy 60% keyboards for aesthetics or because they carry their keyboards in their bags and a normal TKL is too big for them.
unicomp model m or random chinkmade board with greens?
>literally nobody has ever thought that
Your post and opinion is immediately and permanently discarded because I thought that, therefore you're objectively wrong.
But stay mad, though. I don't know what you stand to gain from shilling 60%s but there have been over 1500 buyers from the last two drops, so maybe you should try doing a better job.
>I don't know what you stand to gain from shilling 60%s but there have been over 1500 buyers from the last two drops, so maybe you should try doing a better job.
read the comments, it's nearly all stupid kids looking for an entry level mechanical and the price is certainly right, though for $60 you could just buy a QFR and and not play chinese quality control roulette.
Better keyboard no giant over sized troll space bar more keys i can easily hit with my thumb.
As much as I am tempted to get one, I am not the biggest fan of clicky keyboards, so it wouldn't really find a way into regular use. Also I heard whispers that a version with a smaller case might be made, which I would definitely prefer.
/g/ how do I fix this? I tried to desolder it but I guess I did a shitty job, when I popped the switch out, this little bit was stuck to the pin on the switch, now it looks like this and doesn't work. I don't know anything about soldering or circuit boards please help
You just missed the Compact SQ. I think there's a Lifezone GB on GH right now for a left-hand numpad fullsize with the option.
You'd need to solder a jumper wire from the pin to where the trace went. Also it looks like you ripped out both pads, so you'll have to do the same for the other pin. You can scrape back the coating on the unripped trace and solder to that, possibly.
What keyboards do you have and which is your favorite out of all of those?
Its not surprising to me but why would you have 5 thinkpads?
Well one for home and work makes complete sense rather than having a ton.
I am primarily asking because I want to try brown switches. I really freaking love clicky clacky but I want to try out the tactile bump. I tried reds the other day from cherry but they seemed a little... grindy if that makes any sense. I was surprised
If the whole trace is there you may be able to glue it back. Or you can get a conductive ink pen and draw a new trace from the point at which it is still stuck to the board. Its not a perfect fix but the conductive pens now are pretty good.
I wanted to get a topre real force 104UB for work but I'll be on mac OSX. Can I just rebind the alt and windows key to option and command to get it to work? Or is the keyboard just not compatible.
>I tried reds the other day from cherry but they seemed a little... grindy if that makes any sense.
Cherry's moulds are old and worn out, causing stems to have a rougher texture. This is the same for all switches, but it is especially noticeable for linears. If you want a smooth linear Cherry, you should go for Gateron instead.
NMB this is a cheaper model http://www.memory4less.com/m4l_itemdetail.aspx?itemid=1439720428&partno=RT2258TW&rid=90&origin=pla&gclid=CIjJkPSVycoCFUOBfgodKMgObg
Mine has high quality keys. The old keyboard i used before this one the wasd keys worn out within 3 years and has holes. Its been over 15 years and the wasd on this is keyboard is still readable.
Just did the exact same. SPending the money on an aluminum 60% case and a set of Zealios instead.
Thinking about buying a Realforce. I enjoy how they feel but hate that they aren't programmable.
There was some idiot who brought a mechanical keyboard into my English class a few years ago during the final. He pissed off nearly everybody for a good five minutes before the teacher made him hand-write the exam. It was one of those boards with a hollow plastic case, so the whole thing sounded so pingy and acoustic. It's been years and I still remember what an idiot he was.
Basically, I'd suggest against doing it, unless you're trying to do one of those "prank" videos or something.
it's a filco clone
it has nothing to do with noppoo unless noppoo also made a filco clone that i'm not aware of
also pls be aware that CM quickfire is literally a filco rebrand with gamer styling and a detachable cable
the only cheap QFR is the blue switch model.
all the other switches are so overpriced you may as well buy a real filco for $30 more.
if you want non-blue cherry switches for cheap, just get the ganss
I was looking at the Brown MX, and the CM Browns are like $80 for the cheapest one.
I really like the look of the Ganss, and reviews say its heavy as fuck, which is honestly what I care about. A sturdy mech i can pound on and still call my special bb
Keycaps seem like shit, but i'll be replacing them anyway
Based on everything I have read on here and in the reviews it seems like the ganss keyboards are the best value right now. If you dont like the keycaps then you can always end up replacing them. I might just get brown switches myself and eventually get granite caps for a more hollow thock
This will be my first TKL as well as my first non-backlit kb, so i'm pretty excited.
I just wish there was more people who talked about the Ganss, because I like to autistically research my product before buying.
Can someone explain if this is truly a big deal whatsoever? I mean we are talking about a price point that beats out the rest of the competition and the product seems to mirror much higher in price ones
It really isn't.
Hardly anyone keeps the stock caps on their keyboards unless it's obscenely expensive and you're paying for the design, like in the case of topre realforce and hhkb.
I would like to know this also...
What makes a Filco Majestouch worth $200? It looks the exact same as the Ganss, the Ganss might be heavier, and even the lip of the keyboard around the arrow keys looks the same. Are you paying for the Filco name? If that's all, then FUCK that
i don't even like filco, but it kinda rubs me the wrong way to see over-entitled kids holding companies in contempt simply because chinese clones of products are cheaper than the original hardware they're based on
You're talking about mechanical keyboards here, one of the biggest rip off products in the world. HHKB? Das Keyboard?
I'm all for successful knock-offs at that point, when its the same quality switches, a slightly different case, and 25% the price
Anyone know why the Realforce 108UH and 91U are so cheap on Amazon right now? I can't tell if they're scam sales or if one of these sellers just got a large shipment from Japan.
It's rare to see a TKL Realforce for under 200 bucks. I'm not a huge fan of Topre or anything, but I'm pretty tempted
How is your feeling of oneness today?
It's not. For some reason, white piggus need to pay that much, while in other sensible parts of the world, it only costs about 110 USD.
Filco keyboards are well built, but they're not worth over 140 USD.
I don't think they exist.
I got my Coolermaster Storm Novatouch with the supposedly Topre switches. I'm liking it for the most part.
I still think the Kinesis Classic I've been using for years is a superior layout, but it's kind of nice to get reacquainted with a traditional layout. I have no idea how people deal with the HHKB type layouts.
>I don't think they exist.
I own a JIS 108UW HiPro 10th anniversary mod, and I know the 108UH exists, but it's normally a HiPro from what I understand. The one linked doesn't look like a HiPro from the picture listed, but it also doesn't look fake. I'm guessing they sold the original caps since the HiPros can be expensive, but I'm only guessing.
It's pretty weird for them to be listed at such a low price, though.
For the 91U I'm seeing the price as $210.99 which is normal for a realforce 87 or 91 (from EK).
The 108UH does seem rather cheap though. Is it even possibly to use normal caps on a hipro? I thought it could only go the other way around.
I know you can swap the caps, but you'd normally swap the switch assembly. There's a good writeup about it on GH somewhere.
Anyway, as far as I can tell, it shouldn't be impossible to swap the switch assembly to put regular caps on a HiPro board.
GH60 or KC60. Easily the best 60% board, but it always manages to sell below $100 US, and the Satin version is popular in the EU.
The only downside is the plastic case (if you buy it pre-built) that has too much hollow space underneath. It makes the board loud and obnoxious, but it's easily fixed by replacing it with an aluminium case or a flat case.
It's fully programmable and can do pretty much whatever you want it to do. The only layout it doesn't seem to support is JIS.
The last (x)60 I bought was the KC60 from Massdrop for something like 70 bucks. You really can't get a better deal than that for a higher quality board.
>mfw waiting for my mechanical keyboard in the mail
Now's your only chance to own a new model F keyboard.
Is there a mechanical keyboard with only two buttons? My laptop's keyboard is good enough for writing, but I do play osu! a lot and I think that it would be nice to have a small keyboard to use with it.
for those who don't know what osu! is:
WTF are you actively trying to develop RSI? Seeking dem disability bux?
I suggest finding an Arduino-type prototyping board that supports keyboard emulation. Get that, a circuit board, and two Cherrt MX switches.
A little code and bam, done.
just get a switch tester
CM makes one that functions as a USB device so you can use it as a controller or whatever.
I think it's cool that someone has such a loveboner for IBMs but I couldn't help but notice that his typing speed was less than 30 wpm when typing with the actual model F replica compared to 80+ when typing with the model M.
and he wants $500 for this thing?
>Want a keyboard for work.
>Not owned a mechanical keyboard before.
Mandatory "what kind of switch is best"? (I was mostly looking at browns).
Where the fuck can I get a mech keyboard in the UK that isn't gaymer RGB glow in the dark unproffesional shit? I want to use this thing to work with, not show off at LAN parties.
I have several Kinesis Classic keyboard. I put red switches in one of them. I can say this: reds pretty much feel the same as well broken-in browns.
I'm the guy currently typing on a CM Storm Novatouch. It has Topre switches. They'll live longer than I will, but they do feel sort of 'mushy' compared to the Cherry MX switches I've been typing on for years.
If I were you, I'd probably buy a CM Storm original version (no dumb light-up features) and see how I like the Cherry switches. I'd start with Cherry Browns, too, since that's just a great all-around baseline.
No prob. Your best bet is going to be ordering a kit or the PCB, or try your hand at buying one from from the DT/GH market.
If you don't want to deal with that, you can wait around for a GB. There always seems to be a GB for something or another using the GH60 clone PCBs. Even the clones are decent, though I don't think the Satan version has the same pinouts as the regular Rev B. It should still support things like an external numpad or RGB lighting.
I've been thinking about buying the Max Falcon-8. Seems like a pretty solid piece of metal, just a bit overpriced
It can output all 87 keys signals.
Thanks for trying tho.
One question: Why?
Why mess with multiple fn keys and shift when you can use a normal keyboard and get all the same scancodes without all the fn fuckery?
This doesn't look very convenient to use. And if you're going to go with such a radically different layout, why not go all the way and make it dvorak, or a pure chord keyboard?
I really want the Lolita Spyder 87 in white with brown switches, who's the cancer buddy who posted an image of theirs last thread? I kind of want to see how it looks back lit without rainbow garbage.
get a raise or a better job
if you do a job that can't make you afford a topre board, you can literally use a 5$ logitech membrane for it, since it must be crap.
the backlight is useful at night and i use the numpad very often.
The quickfire xti may be a nice alternative but this one is cheaper.
The only thing i'm not sure about are the brown switches but if i want fullsize and backlit it's either browns or reds
>>the backlight is useful at night
hi grandpa get off the internet now!
I told you it's full of viruses!
Friendly reminder that trackballs are /g/'s 2016 mechanical meme and you WILL fall for it like you did for mkb.
Better buy one now before prices skyrocket.
Holy shit these things are HUGE
amazon should put a fucking disclaimer or a pic like this on their page
One step closer...
I straightened out all of my lines except for one spot under the space bar. I fucked that up. Oh well. Anything else is just the paper towel causing an illusion.
I am bad at osu because I have no sense of rhythm, not because of my choice in switch.
>shitty reds or browns
So browns or browns?
Get it? Because a "shitty" red is a brown. Poop is coloured brown.
You have to have some kind of contrast. The keys won't be literally neon, so a pink and purple keyset would just be girly. Pulse sort of comes to mind.
>neon 80s future I guess? all pink or purple and shit
if this qualifies as gay then yes I'm a huge faglord
That's more 80s retro-future.
Miami Nights, perhaps.
>I'm not a fag
how can anyone not love the cock
i experimented with napalm and burned my house down last night, so posting from under a cardboard box on my phone
my decade old G15 keyboard was lost in the fire along with fifty pissbottles and my crusty cumrag, so what mech keyboard would you recommend?
clearly an hhkb.
hobos use them with success, pic related.
My father works for Nintendo and told me wood cases will be the new dank memes
Real nigga hours smaq dat mf like button
>are the granite key cap sets really worth it? They look nice and all but do they really feel all that much better than your standard keycap or make any difference whatsoever?
One day I'll fit this piece of shit into my budget.
Not really. They're usually only worth buying because there are so many options with layouts. I'm lucky and MD let me cancel my order last night, I had 9 sets, 10 if you include the common kit.
If you really want it, it'll be showing up on the market pretty often until it ships.
Why not just recommend the TaiHao Miami set? It's practically exactly what he wants.
Unicomp customer service has gone down the shitter ever since they bumped up their prices.
If you work in an office, don't bring a fucking mech into work. There's no need for it.
For the price they're fantastic. DSA is okay. It's either love or hate. Would be great if you have weird-ass keyboards and need different layouts.
Considering it's PBT and designed by Matt3o, and this latest set has fixed icons and Sindarin, the value is absolutely fantastic.
>and designed by Matt3o
this is where I realized you were baiting
>>I never tried letting a fat hairy man plow my asshole either
oh so you hate ALL good things.
I see, I rest my case.
>I never tried letting a fat hairy man plow my asshole
but i let a cute guy plow my asshole and it turned out to be awesome
you never know until you try
what are you afraid of?
>making a thread before bump limit
you didnt even copy and paste the OP. how could put less effort into something so simple.
>redditor wants to make his first thread on 4chin xDDDD
nah it's because we're sometimes having difficulties on getting by and I they had to borrow a few from me. but it's not a regular thing though, I can still buy stuff freely if I got the money. But when it's expensive shit I always feel kinda guilty I guess