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Previously on: >>52624154

Intended for users of all levels, including absolute beginners.

There are four ways to try Linux, you can:

1) Install a Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
2) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full Linux experience".
3) Dual-boot Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about Linux)
4) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with Linux (not recommended)

Before asking, please find the answers to your questions in resources.

Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly Linux Thread.

Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe wine can make up for it.

Resources:
man <insert command here>
your friendly neighborhood search engine
https://www.codecademy.com/en/courses/learn-the-command-line
https://wiki.archlinux.org/
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/
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What is GNU/Linux?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux

Babby's First Linux (What distro to choose?)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

What software does /g/ recommend? (Please DON'T include the so called infographic [it's reddit-tier] -- refer all your recommended software here.)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software

Ricing on Linux (Make it good and functional or make it worse/puke-inducing like those at desktop threads)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux_ricing

A script designed to ease the transition from Windows to Debian
https://gitgud.io/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript

Check out this page for any updates on the OP
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php//flt/

IRC No one uses:
irc://irc.freenode.org:+7000/FriendlyLinux
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> makes reference to having to accept things forced on you by religion
> emphasizes content from installgentoo.org

suspicious
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>>52634834
>installgentoo.org
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>>52634845
devillish
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>>52634888
why is it a commercial site? What are they trying to sell you?
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Can anyone explain how do i get my wlan to work in debian? I downloaded the non-free version, but doesn't work.
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>>52634845
>>52634902
# Limit allowed max processes (don't fork bomb yourself).
ulimit -u 666
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>>52634965
what doesn't work exactly? did you connect to it?
nmtui got you covered in that case.
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>>52634984


The wireless icon is not displayed. Only cable connection is displayed.
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>>52635068
did you install firmware-linux-nonfree?
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>>52635068
>The wireless icon is not displayed. Only cable connection is displayed.
very fucking descriptive friend
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>>52635090
I have the non-free iso downloaded. Is that not it?
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>>52635155
usually that's enough but you never know. type nmtui into terminal and show what options appear.
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awk --copyleft | wc -c
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>>52635090
>>52635122

Here. Wlan is not showing.
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>Linux does not allow a file to be created with execution permissions, in fact the default creation permissions are 777 for directories, but only 666 for files.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Umask
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I'm using cinnamon on ubuntu and I'm trying to find the language preferences, to install a language pack, on system preferences but it's not there. Tried with keyboard but it only changes the input. Been googling but haven't got any results. What can I do?
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>>52635296
aaand?
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>>52635303
In the display manager you dummy.
You have to reboot tho.
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>>52635344
Jesus christ I'm retarded, I'll try that next time I can't find something. Thanks.
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anything like sharex on linux?
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>>52635382
https://alternativeto.net/software/sharex/?platform=linux
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>>52634471
thanks
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>>52635265

You blacked out your MAC address for what reason?

Also pic related.
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>>52635265
which wifi-chip does your laptop use?
>>52635424
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>>52635424
>>52635448
>>52635454
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>>52635424
>adobe flash doesn't work well in Linux so your youtube videos will drain laptop battery
>adobe flash
>laptop

Normie/10
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>>52635538
/flt/
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>>52635296
>>Linux does not allow a file to be created with execution permissions
[email protected] ~ % install -m777 <(echo contents) file
[email protected] ~ % ls -l file
-rwxrwxrwx 1 mikurok mikurok 9 Jan 27 05:33 file
[email protected] ~ % cat file
contents
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>>52636466
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>>52636673
i'm not using mac os, friend
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>linux source tree
>over 1 gigabyte
>openbsd source tree
>20 megabytes
>linux exploits per day
>oodles and oodles
>openbsd exploits per day
>0.00000000001
Why does Linux suck so much?
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>>52636721
bsd is for servers, faggot
>>52636696
he may refer to zsh being a macfag shell
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>>52636757
>bsd is for servers, faggot

And linux is for...?
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>>52636721
>openbsd
Got lost on your way to Plan9?
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>>52636793
desktops
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>>52636721
you forgot the part where it says

>number of people interested in securing linux and looking for possible vulnerabilities
in thousands
>number of people interested in securing BSD and looking for possible vulnerabilities
not even the devs care
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>>52636757
>he may refer to zsh being a macfag shell
because of that picture of some zsh ricing pack that includes a mac?
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So I installed Fedora for dual boot, but there doesnt seem to be an option to boot it in the boot menu
When i select 'Fedora' I get this weird 'grub>' command line. Help. The HDD boot option just boots back to windows and I wasnt able to find any useful settings in the BIOS
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>>52636821
>desktops

?
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>>52636802
i've been wary of plan9 ever since the front fell off
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>>52636721
>>openbsd exploits per day
>>0.00000000001
Seems the 3 OpenBSD users are lucky guys.
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>>52634976
What if u got more than 666 processes running?
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>>52636867
>So I installed Fedora
found your problem
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>>52636867
You fucked up the installation.
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>>52636927
Error in return when creating a new process, so when a bomb is running, it's stuck and you just need to kill the bomb process/your shell and your fine.
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>>52636867
try boot repair live cd
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>>52636990
Gee that sucks
Is there a way to fix it or at least tell where I fucked up and try again
The fedora is under uefi installation header if that helps
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>>52637017
This is why you should practice installing on a VM first.
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>>52637043
That would not have helped, since installing it on a portion of a hard drive is a bit different
I've installed arch and debian on vm before and I didnt have to worry about erasing my Windows installation as I do now
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>xubuntu + i3
>screen brightness media keys work fine
>volume does not
possible to just get it to do whatever xfce4 does, like for brightness?
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>>52637112
xbindkeys, xmodmap
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>>52637112
thinking that will handle everything related to plugging in headphones and that too, which xfce4 does out the box
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>>52637130
so I have to do it manually?
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>>52637043
It wouldn't have mattered. The installation's fucked because of double booting.

Otherwise, as long as you managed to boot the installation CD Fedora just so happens to work.

Anaconda haven't had a major flow breaking issue since fedora 19.
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>>52637112
# audio controls
bindsym XF86AudioRaiseVolume exec pactl set-sink-volume 0 +5% && killall -SIGUSR1 i3status
bindsym XF86AudioLowerVolume exec pactl set-sink-volume 0 -5% && killall -SIGUSR1 i3status
bindsym XF86AudioMute exec pactl set-sink-mute 0 toggle && killall -SIGUSR1 i3status


enjoy
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>>52637196
have it working on that front though but the SIGUSR is new, man that beats the 1s update interval thanks

will just do hdmi volume manually for now, at least this works
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>>52637249
..and why doesnt it cap at 100%? seems i can go to infinity
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>>52637285
it does
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>>52635265
Open terminal and type lspci.
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>>52637314
so it does, seems its my i3status that needs changing
thanks for the help
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>>52636995
how will you kill it if you cant create the 'kill' process?
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>>52635238

holy fcuking shit what did i get myself into !!
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>>52637409
You start your kill signal (it will wait for a free slot), go to the terminal where the bomb is running and hit CTRL+C.
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How do I get Grub to boot as fast as possible to a default option? I don't dual boot, so I don't need grub's menu at all.
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>>52637655
The bomb is running in the background doe to &. No CTRL+C here.

>>52637409
You kill one process before running the kill command, you kill one process before running the kill command, you kill one process before running the kill command, you kill one process before running the kill command, you kill one process before running the kill command, you kill one process before running the kill command, you kill one process before running the kill command, you kill one process before running the kill command.
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>>52637409
Actually the bomb constantly tries to create new processes and will fail, just run your kill command several times until you hit the moment when the bomb just failed to execute a new process (665).
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Can you not do open source vs closed source in the OP ever again, OP?

We're not all FOSS extremists, ok?
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Ok, so what if I went ball sacks deep and just overwrote Windows with a Fedora installation? Would I be stuck with same retarded errors, like 'create an uefi partition at /boot/efi' and 'unable to allocate space' etc. Ie. the obstacles I stumbled upon when trying to install it for dual booting. Or would the installation go smoothly, since it would wipe or reformat the whole hard drive?

regards: >>52636867
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>>52638081
You shouldn't.
What about installing in legacy mode?
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>>52638113
there's not much on that computer I'd have to back up. I'm just worried I wont be able to boot into any operating system

How would I install it in legacy mode?
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>>52638160
uefi/bios settings
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>>52638081
There are a bunch of things to unpack, but essentially:

If you're getting "create an UEFI partition", then overwriting Windows wouldn't fix that problem.

The bigger issue is with "unable to allocate space". I'm guessing you're also >>52633056, in which case, the problem is that you need at least 512MB for /boot/efi.
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>>52638206
When I managed to install it before, i had /boot/efi with just 200MB of space. Would it even let me create a partition if its not large enough?
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>>52638299
It would probably throw a warning. And yeah, 200MB could work, too. I was just trying to remember things from Arch's installation, but I'm also perusing various Fedora UEFI installation documents to see what would work.

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/23/html/Installation_Guide/sect-installation-gui-manual-partitioning-recommended.html
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface

In a nutshell, though, you just need to shrink some things to make space for the EFI System partition. The rest should be taken care of.
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>>52634761
sorry for posting a "NOOB" question,
but does anyone know how to install firefox in slitaz 4.0?
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>non-gentoo users will never know the pain of trying to get webkit-gtk to compile
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I need help with my Lenovo G460, audio's not working. Tried Xubuntu, Mint and eOS and there's no sound in all of them. Going to try Sabayon Linux and see if it works. However if you have a shorter solution I would appreciate it.

So far I've tried everything that I could google.
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Why would anyone want to install fedora?
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>>52639419
>Red Hat
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>>52639074
>Tried Xubuntu, Mint and eOS
in VM or real life?
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>>52639471
Real Life

I only have issues with that (and the touchpad, but I fixed it, besides the touchpad is an external defect)

But audio doesn't work.
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>>52639074
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Is going full FSF good for fixing vidya addiction?
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>>52639419
>corporate funding
>packages as close to the upstream
>early adopter of new technologies
>up to date yet stable af
>best package manager on the market
The only thing to hate about memehat distro is the package count due to their strict packaging policy/guidelines.
But it only shows that most maintainers are fucking garbage at doing their work.
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>>52639514
what am I supposed to do now? I've already tried uninstalling pulseaudio using bare ALSA. Installing different mixers, etc.
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>>52639511
Maybe you just need to enable it.
Try alsamixer from terminal, or pavucontrol.
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I want an easy to use cloud password manager, should I go for encryptr or LastPass?
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>>52639555
Did you try to unmute it?
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>>52639074
See >>52639570.

If pavucontrol is installed, try playing around in the configuration tab. That's likely where you'll find the solution.
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>>52639592
Use your brain.
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>>52639570
tried that already, alsamixer and pavucontrol show them unmuted and at 100.
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>>52639534
Should I fall for the meme /g/?
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what's a music player with library editing and a mini player mode? i love the way audacious looks and feels but it's playlist only
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>>52639605
I don't get that joke. ALSA never failed me.

>>52639651
DEADBEEF
E
A
D
B
E
E
F
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>>52639628
I would, but I like having different hard to crack passwords and memorizing each one is somewhat hard
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>>52639592
I'm usually not too paranoid, but LastPass felt really insecure and invasive when I last used it.

I don't recommend it at all.

You're better off using KeePass or some local way to store passwords and then uploading the database file somewhere.
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>>52639681
Yeah, I thought about that. Like using MEGA and putting my encrypted file there. I think I'll go for that.
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>>52639679
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>>52639592
https://github.com/cxxr/lostpass
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>>52637043
>This is why you should practice installing on a VM first.
this. Fucking noobs.
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>>52634761
https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/3u1d8z/aur_igvtg_a_mediated_graphics_passthrough/
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>>52639869
>>>/r/eddit
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>>52639990
https://soundcloud.com/awkwafina/yellow-alert-ft-dumbfoundead
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Trying out an Arch install.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_guide#Change_root

>Copy any other configuration files to the new system in /mnt (such as netctl profiles in /etc/netctl)

This line is pretty vague.

is it safe just to copy over the whole of /etc to /mnt, or should I just copy over netctl profiles? I'm guessing that if I don't, then I'll lose the timezone I set up or something.
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>>52634761
what is a good linux book?
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>>52639990
They're Linux Bro just like you
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>>52639990
endchan
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>>52640193
endchan.xyz
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>>52635424
>youtube doesn't use flash anymore as far as I know
>I seriously doubt 70% of laptops are optimus enabled
>haven't run into this one
>haven't run into this one
>ubuntu has ppa's, arch has the aur
>a valid point, but valve has some black magic that allows d3d games to run natively
>valid point
>valid point
>valid point
>works on my machine
>that's just the nature of linux, most people who use it are comfortable with config file editing
>printers have always been a bitch, newer fancier ones may have a webui with ink level reporting
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hey faggots
thinking about getting D class amp with DAC
usb dac + linux
will I have problems?
does the brand matter?
anyone got any experience?
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>>52640212
>endchan.xyz
Filter this URL mods. It's your rival. They have a 350MB limit/per POST, they have pdf,mp3,ogg support.
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has anyone come up with a solution to getting image thumbnails in the file picker?
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>>52640256
>will I have problems?
Probably not. I have two USB DACs and they work fine in Linux. The only device I have that doesn't work is my ibasso DX50, which is a DAP with a "DAC mode". That one requires a special Windows driver.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2i8HCcAnY8

I've just finished up a set of packages for part of the Q3 2015 release of Intel's iGVT-g project.

For those who don't know, the project provides a solution to fully virtualize an Intel GPU's resources, and pass graphics workloads from a virtualized guest back to the host kernel. It allows for host and guest operating systems to utilize GPU acceleration simultaneously, and in my testing, performance is indistinguishable from native. The newest release works great with Windows guests and native drivers, though the project is a work in progress, and is not yet ready to be upstreamed.

They have separate projects for Xen and KVM at the moment, and are in the process of joining the two into a shared code base.

I currently have packages for the kernel and Xen, which are hosted on the AUR as linux-igvtg and xen-igvtg respectively.

Because of a recent change in the binutils project, x86_64-pep emulation no longer works, and the efi binary generation process of Xen is broken as a consequence. If you're booting your system using EFI firmware, GRUB 2 is recommended.

Suggestions and bug reports for the Arch packages are welcome at the AUR

Comments about the project itself can be submitted to the mailing list at:
[email protected]
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>>52639668
>deadbeef

>get through the install
>icon appears in hot bar
>click, nothing happens
>terminal
>starting deadbeef 0.6.2
>nothing happens

wat do sempai
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>>52640322
>AUR

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/linux-igvtg/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xen-igvtg/
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>>52639700
Is this really legit ? I mean, those kind of password are vulnerable to dictionnary attack aren't they ?
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>>52640412
nah man, it's fine, most "hacks" occure due to poor security like leaving shit with the default password or having a password list as plain text
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>>52640412
>he tried to take the term "dictionary attack" literally

I'm sorry anon but it's not just "try combinations of words from the English dictionary". A dictionary attack would work way worse on that than on a password like "wazzup123four"
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>>52640507
we've all been there man, I used to a long time ago think I was safe from dictionary attacks because I used a simple but made up word
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>>52640489
>>52640507
I suppose I will throw my over-complicated 24 random character password list then.
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>>52637698
just set the timeout for the default option to 1 or 0 (not sure if 0 works)
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>>52639539
Even then the rpmfusion repositories are easy as fuck to install. Fedora is one of the best distributions out there, I'd say I only like Gentoo better.
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Which music player on GNU/Linux supports .cue files?

I have a bunch of FLAC albums that are in a single file. On Windows there are players where those files are read with the cues and the tracks showed separately.

Is there one for Linux that supports this feature?
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>>52639539
>>52641284
Not to mention, Linus Torvalds uses Fedora. But then, he's also gone on record saying that the differences between distributions don't really matter to him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHGTs1NSB1s
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>>52640063
Copy any other configuration files to the new system in /mnt
Anything you changed in the ramfs copy it to /mnt
Dont copy all of /etc
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>>52641428
Clementine: https://www.clementine-player.org/about
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>>52641428
you'd be better off imo to use a converter that supports splitting via cue. I hate wen people think it's acceptable to share music as a single image instead of split into tracks, but I actually use an mp3 player
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>>52639605
>mfw I finally get that image
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>>52641910
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>>52641428
there is tools to split the flac using the cue file. I did that last year when I was intensively downloading music. Doesn't remember the name but you should find it easily with a good search engine
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>>52642000
cuebreakpoints
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>>52639074
reinstall windows 8.1 you smelly shitter
http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/lenovo-g-series-laptops/lenovo-g460-notebook?c=1
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>>52642229
>windows
dr;filtered
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>>52642630
>filtered
cdillusion faggot
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>hit 26 times backspace
>breaks linux secuity
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How does it feel knowing that most of the biggest tech companies in the world all use Windows Server?
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>>52642913
>How does it feel knowing that most of the biggest tech companies in the world all use Windows Server?
You're a charm.i.ng troll
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What is that linux terminal app that shows OS info and hw info in that fancy looking way? I see infrequent threads with people comparing their stats but can't find a thread now that has it, and I need it for science right now.
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>>52642890
>have any physical access
>breaks any security
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>>52643013
cpu-x
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>>52643013
rm -fr /* --no-preserve-root
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>>52642630
>linux
dr;filtered
actually i got 50+ filtered freetard texts
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>>52643076
>posting ITT
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>>52642913
unsafe
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Is it normal for audio to just completely stop working (Debian 8)? I've at least figured out that uninstalling pulseaudio fixes it, but at that point, I can no longer control volume through the GUI and have to use alsamixer.

No idea how to get it working again. Neither reinstalling pulseaudio or deleting all the config files does anything.
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>>52643328
Are sound daemons running?
Installing alone isn't enough!
Is your ~/.asoundrc empty?
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>>52643013
https://github.com/KittyKatt/screenFetch
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>>52643399
>Are sound daemons running?
pulseaudio -D doesn't seem to do anything
pulseaudio --start gives me an error:

User-configured server at /var/run/pulse/native, refusing to start/autospawn.


Those are what I've found from googling around, but I still don't really know what I'm doing.

>Is your ~/.asoundrc empty?
Apparently I don't have that file.
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What's the flatest, most modern(tm) looking DE out there?
closer to xfce than to unity.
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>>52643539
openbox
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>>52643539
OSX
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>>52642890
> hear about this
> day it's discovered
> start trying to break into my own computer in this fashion
> no matter where I try it I can't break in
> it was patched the day it was discovered
> wouldn't have affected me anyway, seeing as my drive is encrypted and you need the root password to do anything with that anyway.

Try harder next time, faggot.
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>>52643539
GNOME3
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>>52643681
>as my drive is encrypted
found the pedophile
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>>52643539
fluxbox
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>>52643399
>>52643487
It's working now. I think I had to delete everything in both my home folder and in /etc/pulse. After rebooting, it was back to normal.

Either that or it just works after the 40th try.
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>>52643539
closedbox
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>>52643694
> basic computer security
> pedophile

Nice meme.
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>>52643694
>he doesn't encrypt his drive
Low IQ detected.
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>>52643747
>he encrypts his drive
>he has to hide
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Whats up with the manjaro packages? I installed Manjaro Xfce and tried to install a bunch of pretty common packages and they didn't show up in the repos.
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>>52643763
>He hangs curtains in his house
Why? Are you building a bomb or making drugs?
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>>52643747
>damage control
fuck off pedo
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>>52643795
manjaro is utter shit, that's what's up with it.
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>>52643818
>I'm the king of all memes.
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>>52643795
Everything there, forgot to update?
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>>52643857
it was a fresh install and I ran pacman -Syu

Honestly new to Arch and it's forks
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>>52643841
>he thinks it's just a meme
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>>52643539
papryos
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>>52643694
Install Freenet, faggot.
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>>52643889
It actually is a pretty nice distro. I bet all you know about Manjaro you got off /g/.
Memes aside, check out manjaros git, their patches are very nice. Even saved some of them for my Arch install.
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>>52643951
I've used manjaro and that is why I think it is shit. Devs suffer egomania and it frequently breaks for many users who are not knowledgeable to fix the devs' fuckups.
Have fun with it by all means though.
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Prefect place to try and figure out what the fuck is going on
>Have assignment to make a bash script that does thing
>Start up VirtualBox with a simple Xubuntu distro
>Make my program, try to get it off the VM
>Turn on the shared clipboard, doesn't work for whatever fucking reason
>Insert flashdrive and give to VM, claims it doesn't recognize the format FAT32
>Try to launch Firefox to just upload the damn thing through it, Firefox simply fails to start
>Pull up Synaptic, try to install Dropbox through it
>Install hangs up near the end and the VM completely freezes
>Restart, try doing the shared folder and it actually works
>Try to copy .sh file
>Error: No such file or directory
>Can't copy, can't open, can't execute, can't even check properties
Linuxfriends please explain
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>>52643818
too much green
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>>52643989
Google "how to boot usb virtualbox"
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>>52643989
Sounds like your virtualbox is shit. You could install on to usb as persistent. The things you're experiencing sound pretty weird though.
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>>52644038
>>52644006
>>>/reddit/

>>52644048
>user is to retarded to use program correctly
>program is shit
smells like /v/
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>>52644072
>user is to retarded to use program correctly
>program is shit
I didn't say either of those but you can kindly fuck off back to /v/ anyway.
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>>52644072
WHy are you BeinG! so mein?!
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whats the worst that could happen to someone installing arch linux without a vm?
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>>52644127
Debian uses photoshop.
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>>52644136
failure?
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>>52644136
Erasing grub and having to reboot to run arch-chroot
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Closed source gives your life meaning and fosters in-group cohesion by enforcing social mores?

brb Macbook
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http://askubuntu.com/questions/726074/why-my-files-dont-want-to-stay-hidden

Can anyone help me with this issue?
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>>52644038
>>52644048
Well I figured out one issue, I think what happens is when I mount the network drive, permissions for all files on the VM are revoked until I unmount it
I don't understand this in the slightest, and I need to get this shit from this VM to somewhere else

I should probably stop being lazy and fix my Debian and/or Fedora VM, I didn't have nearly the problems with them until I fucked them both up royally with the QT framework
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>>52644461
Have you tried transferring the file via ssh or rsync?
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>>52644667
I have not, will give those a try
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>>52644667
>>52644687
Goddammit, seems I can't install anything because every time I try to it attempts to finish the Dropbox install and lock up again

Fuck everything, I'm just gonna retype it
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$ df -h | grep xstorage
/dev/ada3p1 902G 851G -20G 102% /mnt/xstorage

w-what
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can someone help me out with this?
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>>52645464
What are you trying to install? Just perl-wx or it is a dep
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puush/sharex alternatives for Linux?
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>>52645722
https://github.com/Imakethings/Moe
https://github.com/kori/gone
https://github.com/jschx/uguush
https://curl.io/
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> know that going back to a "just werks" distro is the best option
> can't let go of this idea that if I leave Gentoo I'm stupid

What's wrong with me?
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>>52646710
>What's wrong with me?
excess freetime
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>>52645127
might want to do an fsck there, buddy
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>>52646710
>What's wrong with me?
You feel like you have something to prove.
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>>52645464
can't see enough of the log to tell what happened
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>>52646748
> excess free time
That's a fact.

>>52646775
Probably.
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>>52646787
>That's a fact.
so keep at it, worst comes to worst you learn something and then go back to just werks
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>>52646787
Yeah, don't be like those NOOBuntu users, amirite?

But seriously, use what you want. It's what you make it.
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>>52646775
>You feel like you have something to prove.
nothing that wrong with this desu
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Fedora come prepackaged with SELinux, right? It's preconfigured, I don't need to concern myself with setting it up?
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What, realistically, is the benefit of Gentoo?

I installed it, and it just made everything take longer and made me hunt for solutions to pretty much anything I wanted to do.

I realized I can get the same security benefits by installing shit to a just werks distro and it would be easier and not take as long.

I don't care that much about USE flags, and emerge isn't that much easier to use than any other package manager I've tried.

Really, the only reason I can think of to stay with Gentoo is to keep bragging about using Gentoo.
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>>52634761
We /r/atheism now?
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>>52647497
At this point, I'd say we're worse.
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Can someone explain, human readable, what SELinux and AppArmour is and how I can use it? I'm a ubuntu babby. Do I even need it?
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>>52647583
You don't need them at all.

AppArmor: "AppArmor ("Application Armor") is a Linux kernel security module that allows the system administrator to restrict programs's capabilities with per-program profiles. Profiles can allow capabilities like network access, raw socket access, and the permission to read, write, or execute files on matching paths."

In other words, "I'll let this program have access to this function and whatever the fuck else, but nothing more."
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>>52647583
>>52647602
By the way, I only say that you won't need them since you it's one of those things that you don't need to look into until you actually need it.
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>>52647602

>>52647607

I see, thank you.
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Isn't SElinux made by the NSA?
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>>52647629
It is, but it's open source( as far as I know), meaning anyone with the knowledge of the programming language can audit it as they wish.
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>>52647629
Yeah, but it's open-source now and it has been for a number of years.

A case made for its security was basically that the NSA wouldn't backdoor open-source products made under their real name, because then people would find them and know exactly who's responsible.

They'd make a fake identity, which they can do, and have that make a program full of bullshit, so it they're found out it's some imaginary person that everyone gets upset with.

I trust SELinux just fine; it's no more backdoored than anything else open-source,.
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>>52647662
I'll open your source. ;^)
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>>52647743
I'd love to, but I'm not really into backdoor stuff.
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>>52647797
Don't worry; we'll have devs watching just to make sure there's no funny business.
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You should attach more pictures to your posts.
This is an imageboard!
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>>52647886
I-Is this better, senpai?
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>>52647886
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>try to install Korora
>visual glitches in installer
>finally click my way through all the invisible buttons
>select the 25GB ext4 partition i created
>error checking storage configuration
that's why we can't have nice things
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>>52647912
Or, you know... Don't fucking use Korora.
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Is Linux better than BSD?

I'm considering installing FreeBSD.
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>>52647963
You have two options:
a) Try it.
b) See a).
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Some PDF's letter spacing is godawful, using Ubuntu font on Xubuntu + i3. Any ideas? Same shit in Zathura and Evince

Like capitals get a lot of extra spacing so There looks like T here
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>>52647963
> OpenBSD is about as secure as humanly possible

My interest is piqued.
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>>52648162
>*in the default install
added
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hey, i have an old laptop with amd mobility radeon 4300, only linux version i can install is should be xorg 1.12 version max. what do you guys recommend for me, i don't want to use open source drivers its not good. should i stick with ubuntu 12.04? or is there any good alternative with xorg 1.12 or smthing else. i just want to install fglrx
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>>52648205
>having anything but SSH open
Just fucking port forward. None of my devices listen to remote connections on anything but port 22.
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Sup Linuxfa/g/s. Is there a way to move all the used blocks in the disk to the very front of the device? I'm trying to reduce the size of a disk image by using zerofree before dding a compressed image and it should reduce it more if I can move all the free space to the end.
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Is it possible to dual boot Linux with Windows if you install Linux first and plan to get like Win10 after the fact?

I remember reading somewhere on how to dual boot and it made an emphasis on installing Windows first, but I dunno.
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Why is gnome so XBOX huge with it's buttons. guess the only people using is old berkley comp sci old men so they need to be able to see that shit.
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>>52648698
you save a couple steps by installing windows first, as most linux installers will detect windows and add an entry to grub for you

basically,
windows then linux:
1. install windows
2. install linux
3. ???

linux then windows
1. install linux
2. install windows (overwrites grub stage1, now only windows boots)
3. boot a linux livecd, chroot in and reinstall grub stage1 (grub-install /dev/sda)
4. regenerate grub.conf so it can detect the windows installation (grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg)
4. ???
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>>52648720
mah tablet/touchscreens
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>>52648698
I use EasyBCD when doing a Windows-last installation. After that you can make GRUB boot at 0 seconds to make it as if you're not using GRUB at all.
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Could someone help me with a little script here please?
How can i cut out the 3 numbers wich have a # and a - infront of them?
    #001    -010    .011    .100

what do i have to use? sed,awk,cut,grep? really no clue.
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>>52649181
and possibly getting rid of the extra space between those numbers.
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>>52647497
Better than r/christianity though
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Which distro has the best KDE implementation?

I really wanted to use Kubuntu because of jewvidia drivers for laptop, but it's not really stable and it's outdated.

Currently I'm using vanilla Ubuntu, but even me liking Unity, I still hate GTK from the bottom of my heart.
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>>52649877
kubuntu can't be that out of date, at least for kde. Or do you mean the drivers?
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My task manager is showing a process called applet.py how do I find out what the hell is this, and what does it do?
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>>52649958

Current Plasma release is 5.5.4 and Kubuntu just released 5.4. Kde applications are also outdated.

The stability and fixes between each release is huge, so it's a must to have the latest version.

The overall system is also really unstable.
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>>52649971
>applet.py
My guess is system tray
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>>52649877
>Which distro has the best KDE implementation?
Probably opensuse. The whole project was always pretty committed to the k desktop, just like fedora devs were always bunch of gnome acolytes
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>make
>cp arch/x86/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage
>shutdown -hr now
>mfw I forgot to lilo
Why do you dumb fucks hate EFI? BIOS bootloaders are fucking cancer.
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> spend week installing Gentoo
> have to hunt down solutions to fucking everything I want to do
> say fuck that noise
> go back to Fedora
> install security patches that were the only thing keeping me on Gentoo
> takes two hours
> never run into issues again

Gentoo is a bragging-rights meme distribution. It's as bad as Arch. Don't fall for the meme.
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>>52650422
> have to hunt down solutions to fucking everything I want to do
Reading the wiki sure is hard.
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>>52650422
Gentoo is for people who aren't morons. Certainly didn't take me a week to install and didn't have to hunt down solutions.
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>>52650465
>>52650476
> implying I'm a moron
A bunch of random shit kept going wrong when I had followed the wiki to the t.

The wiki did not help at all with the shit I needed to get working.
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So I installed fedora and I'm having an issue with the internet speed, being extremely slow. Also firefox can't properly play youtube videos (or anything else really) and the only quality option is 360p. There's also a banner telling me I'm using an old version of internet explorer.
Upgrading firefox atm very slowly. Disabled automatic updates and the system is up to date.
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>>52650562
The youtube quality thing is solved by installing the gstreamer plugins and poking around the "media" options in about:config

As for your internet speed, I'm afraid I can't help there.
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>>52646767
3088 files, 221278521 used, 15243066 free (1066 frags, 1905250 blocks, 0.0% fragmentation)

***** FILE SYSTEM IS CLEAN *****

>smartctl -a /dev/ada3 shows nothing out of the ordinary
>remounting changed nothing
>rebooting changed nothing
>can write to and read from the disk just fine

I just don't know any more.
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>>52650599
that's fixed now, thank you
I'm pretty sure disabling ipv6 will solve the slow connection issue
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I will always buy Windows™ because The Future Starts Now™. Microsoft™ pioneers innovative new technologies like DirectX™, Office™, and the highest quality operating system to ever grace computers. When I boot up with a brand new PC running Windows™ with the latest Z chipset powered by Intel™ and latest Nvidia™ graphics, I can enjoy the games the way they where meant to be played™. Microsoft™ also pioneers in the gaming field with its latest Xbox™ console to allow gamers to play on their big screens with family and friends. Windows™ is also very secure. It's the most secure operating system on the planet. It's harden against NSA probes, tested by highly trained and experienced programming engineers to have ever graced this planet. With such innovative security technologies like UAC, Defender, Security Essentials, BitLocker, and Windows™ Firewall you can ensure all your sensitive data is secured and you're safe on the internet. Microsoft™ most advanced, and dare say, the most advance web browser on the market, Edge™, has decoupled addon support, like flash, to ensure maximum user safety when browsing the web. You can ensure Microsoft™ keeps you safe from the NSA. At this point in time there's really no reasons to consider Linux. I tried once. It caused my Nvidia™ graphics to overheat so much due to its poor quality, novice programmed, open source drivers that it exploded and nearly burnt down my house. It's quite clear that OPs a Linux shill trying to convince you to settle on something less than the optimal experience with Windows™. Windows™ is the only real way to play games or do anything productive. We've seen that they offer incredible libraries for software developers like Visual Studio and Microsoft C++ Compiler. He is probably too poor to afford the Microsoft Windows™ experience and can not afford to play any games. Don't be a poor gamer with bad security and no drivers. The Future Starts Now™ with Microsoft Windows™
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>>52649181
Something like

grep -Eo \(\#\|\-\)[0-1]*


Worked for me. Also removes spaces and outputs each match on a new line.
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My external HDD drive keeps getting disconnected for some reason, and then gets renamed. For example, at first it's named /dev/sda, then after the first disconnection it's called /dev/sdb etc...

It's really annoying because I have to remount the drive every time.

Is there a way I can prevent it from being renamed? Or is there any other solution to this problem, like automounting the drive when it has a different name?
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What do you think about this distro to learn more about Arch Linux?

Pic related.
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>>52651422
It's great. The installer still shits the bed every once in a while, but just make sure your internet connection is stable and only select the AUR support in the extras when you install and you should be fine.
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>>52651498
Thanks for the Answer. Is it better than Manjaro?
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>>52651422
Why not just use Arch itself?

I feel like so many people here only see "lel Arch is a MEME!!!!!" and never actually take time to see what it's about.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux

For me, choosing Arch instead of other distros and Arch's offspring distros was fairly easy. I have simple needs, so why wouldn't I want (at least at the start) a very simple set of programs? I've been fucked by installers many times (both graphical and do-it-for-you text-based installers), so why wouldn't I want a way to learn to do it myself?

Plus, I've heard many people saying that Antergos creates a messed-up installation. Manjaro users have better times on first installation, but they tend to report bigger problems later on.

IMO, if you want to learn Arch, then use Arch.
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>>52651422
I think it misses the point.
Arch is "difficult" to install because it forces you to make some choices during the install.
Skipping that part you might not know why something breaks or how to fix it.
The reason arch is "difficult" to install is to drive people away, it is not meant for people who wants something that just works
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>>52651540
Antergos is basically Arch. There are like 5 packages from Antergos, but it is all Arch under the hood. Manjaro has it's own repos and issues.
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>>52651541
>>52651564

The problem is: I have only one laptop that's why I can not casually read the instructions if I get problems. I have no printer and my phone is broken.
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>>52651644
Read through Arch's beginners' guide and figure out what installation method is right for your system.

After that, take a pen and a piece of paper and write down any and all relevant lines (along with their explanations).
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>>52651644
>ctrl+alt+f2
>more install.txt
whoa
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installed arch. Tried to install LightDM but now when i boot i get error that it failed and i cant boot it further. How do i fix it? (Mount the os with the live usb and disable the service? How do.i mount it?
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>>52652134
Read the fucking logs
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>>52652134
>How do i fix it?
You of course make it your sole hobby for the rest of your life.

Enjoy
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>>52652134
Switch TTYs (Ctrl+Alt+F2) and do
# systemctl isolate multi-user.target
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Has anyone here tried Deepin Linux? The desktop is Qt5/QML and isn't KDE so it looks pretty dope.
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>>52652232
chinese botnet
can't even get their website in correct english.
muh osx ripoff
garbage
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>>52652134
>>
is there a way to map the "always on top" option in xfce to a key combination?
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>>52652232
>having bloat without kde is not really something to brag about.
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>>52652268
Oh god the background depicts suburbs and three towers/skyscrapers of different distros.

I never paid attention to the details of this picture and always assumed there were doors. lol
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>>52652305
I was implying that since it wasn't KDE, there would be no bloat. Qt5/QML is super lightweight; its used on really weak embedded platforms even.
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>>52652134
if you have to resort to flt already for your arch install, you're gonna have a bad time

Learn a less advanced distro. Master it. Then migrate to Arch.
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>>52652211
Thank you.

>>52652171
>>52652268
Arch is more of a learning experience. Most likely switching sooner or later. but whatever
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>>52652351
>implying arch is advanced
not having an installer and being bleeding edge doesn't make something advanced, funtoo is advanced, they actually push new and interesting stuff.
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Former Arch user here. Linux belongs on servers and embedded platfoms like Android. Nowhere else.
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>>52652386
Its fine for desktop too, it just needs a DE that isn't terrible. ChromeOS is pretty good for instance.
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>>52652386
Former Windows user here. I don't really give a shit.
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>>52652386
>arch
no wonder you are buttfrustrated.
also tesla is open source.
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>>52652397
KDE is the closest thing to a functional, user-friendly desktop Linux has. And it's bugged shit
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>>52652411
who said that? gnome is more user friendly but imo xfce with compton is the best for just werks and stability.
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>>52634845
>can actually read and understand this
This proves that white space, comments, and indentation makes all the difference.
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>>52652379
It's more advanced in the sense that the default configs are closer to upstream whereas fedora/ubuntu have saner defaults
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>>52652411
I think you mean cinnamon
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>>52652411
It makes me kind of sad. It felt like Gnome 2 was going to be the one.
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>>52652411
>KDE is the closest thing to a functional, user-friendly desktop Linux has.
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>>52652411
>what is Cinnamon
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>>52652171
i still don't get this meme. i've been running arch on my dev machine for a couple years and i never have any problems. initial setup was admittedly more involved than necessary, but it wasn't hard, i just read the wiki (and this is the first linux distro i've really used). never had a kernel panic, never have driver problems (i had to build the touchpad drivers for a short while, but they were in the kernel before long because MUH BLEEDING EDGE), worst i've ever had is a non-critical piece of software having a minor bug for like a day maybe three or four times. over the course of two years.
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>>52652618
>and this is the first linux distro i've really used
so you didn't even test anything else?
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>>52652701
i've briefly tried several other distros. i mean this is the first one i've stuck to using for a significant time, long enough to actually learn anything about unix. and arch makes sense for my use case because i needed something really lean because i work from home (as in i work from cafes and libraries because i don't focus well at home) so i needed my work machine to be very portable and financially practically disposable in case it gets damaged/lost/stolen. so i have it running on a $180 chromebook with 16gb of storage. what other distro aside from gentoo would be able to make such efficient use of that space?
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>>52652819
debian if you install it minimally and disable automatically installing recommended packages in aptitude/apt. it's actually smaller than arch.
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>>52652819
any of them considering that linux is modular
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>>52652819
>so i needed my work machine to be very portable and financially practically disposable in case it gets damaged/lost/stolen.

So, the work you do is basically worthless?
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>>52652967
>the value of my work is consistent with the value of my hardware

fucking macfags
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>>52652892
yeah, debian is nice too. but i like having up-to-date packages. and (perhaps unlike most arch users, you may have me there) i actually do believe in the arch philosophy. pushing issues upstream so problems get fixed at the source makes more sense than distro-level support patches. and if you're going to say "use testing/unstable", sure, but then really what's the difference from just using arch? i'm happy with it, and it actually makes sense for my use case, so the only reason i could imagine someone still telling me not to use it is just some arbitrary beef. also (time for my arbitrary beef) debian is probably about to get cucked.
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>>52653047
>debian is probably about to get cucked.
why? it's still going strong even after over 20 years.
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popcorn time equivalant with subtitle support and torrent streaming?
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>>52653087
he ded jim
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>>52653125
so you say debian is about to get "cucked" because the founder that wasn't involved in debian in over 10 years died a tragic death?
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>>52653087
probably just paranoia but with ian murdock going out and some of the dialogue that occurred afterward, i could imagine people of certain doctrines weaseling their way in and fucking shit up. if it can happen to github it could happen to anything.
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>>52653165
why would that happen now? see>>52653157
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>>52653188
he didn't have to be involved, his death started conversations regardless. not to mention some people (perhaps understandably) took some of his last public statements the wrong way.
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>>52653230
and the conversations in the mailing lists were killed off by people that know their shit pretty much immediately. 4chan and reddit had weird conversations and witchhunts but the media stayed calm so the impact was minimal.
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>>52653267
yeah, i guess there's that. either way, i'm not looking forward to when "linux" gets targeted for being a so-called "boy's club" as it inevitably will. is there a distro maintained exclusively by women yet? counting down the days until EmpowerOS or some such thing manifests. that's being hopeful that it would actually be a new thing, not a bastardization of something already used and loved by many as the pattern tends to be.
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>>52653332
if they make it themselves let them do it, we already have other joke OS like hannah montana linux or pony linux. the debian devs keep to free software activism and usually keep down other kinds of activism, just read the mailing lists from time to time. this could happen to buntu though.
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>>52653412
of course. i wouldn't have a problem if it was its own independent thing. that just doesn't seem to be how it usually goes. i mean damn, if you're gonna platform your own personal politics in a place where it doesn't belong, at least build the damn platform yourself instead of pushing someone else off theirs.
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whats the best way to make a backup on Linux. I started hosting a web server from home but have no idea about how to make backups
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>>52654010
rsync
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>>52634845
I have read somewhere that the last Linux kernel can block fork bombs. Is that true?
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thread is almost kill, new one when?
also please spread this: https://insurance.thecthulhu.com/
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>>52654010
rsync -aAXv --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} / /path/to/backup/folder


yw
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>>52654205
I dont know of an os that dosent.Even then you can harden it your self
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>not wanting /dev/random backups
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