>>52626822 7 probably switching to 100% loonicks sometime soon, Microsoft is sperging out and lots of vidya (which is the only reason I'm using windows at all) is getting ported to Linux or using multi-platform APIs
>>52626822 I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Windows 10, is in fact, NSA/Windows 10, or as I've recently taken to callingit, NSA plus Windows 10. Windows 10 is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another proprietary component of a fully functioning NSA system made useful by the NSA spyware, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by US central command.
Many computer users run a modified version of the NSA system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of NSA spyware which is widely used today is often called Windows 10, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the NSA spyware, developed by the NSA as part of the PRISM project.
There really is a Windows 10, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Windows 10 is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to spy on the user and send it to the microsoft servers where they can legally sell it to the NSA and other companies without the consent of the user due to CISA. Windows 10 is an essential part of the spy network, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete surveilance system. Windows 10 is normally used in combination with the NSA system: the whole system is basically NSA with Windows 10 added, or NSA/Windows 10. All the so-called Windows 10 versions are just different versions of NSA/Windows 10.
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There is no reason to not use Windows 10. It is the current year, after all. All this talk of spyware and data collection is nothing but conjecture. Microsoft uses the collected data to improve the customer's experience, not for spying purposes. All of you who are not using Windows 10 because it's supposedly spying on you are so paranoid, even if they were to use the data to spy on you, you shouldn't have anything to worry about, assuming you're not breaking the law. Everyone who isn't using Windows 10 is automatically suspicious for this reason alone.
You're not doing anything illegal, are you?
You wouldn't break the law, would you?
You wouldn't even think about breaking the law, would you?
Since all Linux distros I tried fried my right palm because of how much my laptop's SSHD heated up on idle, I installed Windows 7. The SSHD was almost as hot, and touchpad drivers(Synaptics) sucked big time(scroll was sort of stuttering and the pointer was jumping around).
I installed Windows 8.1 and those issues went away. Sad I have to use Windows, but I'm taking the opportunity to play Japanese bullet hell's, visual novels and RPGs.
>people actually think windows 7 is secure >dont even realize they are getting spied on >dont realize that they get spied on even without windows >acting like windows 10 somehow adds special new spy software that didn't exist before
>>52628524 its awlways annoyed me how low quality these slides are, and also all versions from 3.1 onwards are unsafe, and im sure linux has some dodgy back doors in it. Has anyone actually audited the code?
>>52628568 It's low quality but it doesn't change the truth. This is also only what the government is doing, not what individual websites track and what your ISP knows about you which is literally everything if you're connected to the internet. You may have something to hide but they can find it if they want, nothing you do online or on your computer is safe and the sooner you realize that the sooner you can stop bitching about what OS someone decides to use and instead worry about the bigger issues like nearly every major hardware manufacturer spying on you for the government.
>>52628635 Not really, but me using W10 for new video games and features like DX12 doesn't really change much in the long run. I know i'm getting spied on, the problem is why don't other people realize they are getting spied on with W7. The only way to not get spied on is to literally make your own hardware or get it from a weird foreign manufacturer and then use Unix and never go online ever and if you do then you better be behind a proxy.
There's a big difference between having a backdoor that could be used if you were actually an important target being singled out, or having all of your metadata collected by default. 7 may not be good enough for someone who really needs the security but for the average pleb who needs Windows and just doesn't want his shit in the cloud it's the best choice.
I still use 7 (updated up to the last August 2015 updates) and I will until stuff stops working with it anymore. After that I'll just finally switch to Linux for everything.
I have made USB installer pens using NLite where I have stripped them down to bare minimum for my needs. Removed all drivers, files and services I dont need, tweaked and configured for speed and as much security as is possible with these OS's, added updates that matter, and they only have drivers for the computers I use.
Feels good to install in about half an hour, and it boots up with all my settings and tweaks already done.
My home router and firwewall/proxy take care of the heavy firewalling, and I use Tinyfirewall on the computers.
Will be installing Windows 7 alongside my "GNU"/linux installation once my ssd arrives tomorrow, mainly because I'm too stupid to get gpu pass through working and like the option of playing immersive games when life has gone to hell. I'm well aware that my information is being logged, no matter what I'm using but the difference is how much they take. That's my problem with 10. Also, I despise the interface. May even upgrade 7 to 10 just so I reboot after every game, just to be free of it.
>>52630361 Classicshell makes windows 8.1 usable. But I rather have that MS does shit right and that I don't need some 3rd party to help out. >used win 8.1/classicshell for 3 months and then switched to 10
Switched from win10 to win7 the day my ssd arrived. 10 was incredibly fast on 5400rpm laptop HDDs, now that the ssd compensates win7 i'm fine with it, it actually feels more stable even if I think there's less hardware acceleration (YouTube on Firefox stutters on 720p, I have to fix this).
>>52631884 Good idea. I was tempted to install Windows 10, seeing as it would only be for gaming but forgot about their anti-piracy features. Windows 7 is bae, well compared with her younger relations anyway.
>>52629208 No reason, huh? >upgraded to 10 >everything is slower >some hardware doesn't work >meh, they'll work it out >one day, my profile somehow randomly corrupts itself, so Windows quietly makes a new empty one for me. No known way to fix this, just have to copy all my files over and redo all my settings. >some update comes in, notification says Speccy is not compatible with this, so it SILENTLY FUCKING UNINSTALLED IT for me, I reinstall it while quietly cursing Microsoft for not just making it an alert -- it fucking works perfectly fine, it deleted it for no reason >Threshold 2 comes along, woo I can customize window color like 7 and 8.1 did... except now the Start menu won't open at all, again no known solution >know what, fuck this shit, it keeps breaking itself and my programs, I'm going back to 7 >it's been more than 30 days, Windows has deleted the old version silently >pirate MSDN Win7 disc, reformat and reinstall, all is well again >use GWX Control Panel to disable Win10 update nagware >no more problems
>>52630024 Me too. 8.1+ClassicShell. It's a bit lighter on resources than 7, and boots way faster. It also handles SSDs a bit better with reduced writes and TRIMming all unused space periodically to catch any the NTFS driver didn't TRIM already. On-the-fly filesystem repair is nice too, leads to less chkdsk repairs. Task manager is greatly improved and shows more useful info. Etc.
Downsides: Needs a 3rd party program to make the start menu not shit. Arguably uglier than Aero master race. Metro control panel sucks. Where the fuck did the wifi network list go and why do I now need to use the command line to uncheck "disconnect from this and try to connect to any random network that looks familiar even if it's a mile away" or view the password for a remembered network?
>>52630251 >There were government backdoors in Windows as early as Win95 Evidence or GTFO
>>52630877 Having used ME a bit, I think you'd have to make the part holding the head on a bit narrower. Windows ME is a hammer whose head breaks off and slams into your forehead when you try to use it.
>>52632755 >Windows 10 >anti-piracy features https://www.techpowerup.com/215297/license-agreement-confusion-causes-misinformation-over-windows-10-overreach.html tl;dr most of the shit you read on /g/ is bullshit
>>52632986 >support for Skylake and presumably Zen CPUs What form of support? Are these CPUs not going to be backward compatible? My Haswell CPU will happily run DOS from the '80s if I have a UEFI CSM with enough of the old BIOS functions to make it happy...
>>52633012 >>52633016 It'll could still work fine, but if something breaks because of some new thing, since the architectures aren't officially supported they're not going to patch or anything so that it does work
They're probably not even going to test?
Honestly this mainly hurts enterprises looking at new hardware but downgrading the OS because of some ancient piece of shit they "need" to work but the point is 7 is already starting to lose shit like this
>>52633061 This gets me to wondering if someone will make a frankenstein setup with pieces of 7, 8.1 and 10. Sort of like that 3rd party "service pack" for Win98 that backported some nice stuff from WinME when it turned out to be a heap of shit.
>>52633513 Note: if someone reading this is Indian or Pakistani and is not a shill, I apologise. The "paki" part is just to insult the predominantly Indian shilling community. It's only directed at them and i wish them all to get fucked by a random bull that's sexually frustrated.
>>52633513 >How is it compared to 7? I have not noticed any difference. I don't ever touch the start menu, so it's basically just 7 to me. I've been using it too long now to determine if it was faster than 7.
>Any must have features? No. Unless you want better themes from deviantart.
>>52633959 Not Indian, but I will not bow to paid MS shills when the experience and reliability of the new version is a big step down from the old one. Windows 7 generally does not randomly shit itself or force updates on you that cause it to do so.
>>52633966 >>52633997 Okay smartass, tell me how to fix shit like this: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-desktop/explorerexe-element-not-found/dd4cc6aa-04fd-4f1d-b776-a5efc9e2c3a2
The broken start menu issue apparently does have a known fix now, but didn't when I had it.
As for the temporary profile thing, it can apparently happen in 8.1 as well though I've never had it happen there. The only fix still seems to be to make a new profile and copy over your files. http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/38817-youve-been-signed-temporary-profile-fix.html
You guys probably did a clean install of 10. I seem to have gotten a severely botched upgrade install. Refreshing it wouldn't even work.
i used to make riced-to-fuck XP iso's back in ~07-09
even went as far as ricing setup itself (higher resolution, changing all the graphics, aero cursor, cleartype enabled, etc)
included all kinds of registry tweaks from performance to usability enhancements, like increasing the heapsize, changing some network stuff i forget, reorganizing the explorer tool/menu bar to be more compact, and so on
The upgrade is free. A License still costs money, so on each new PC you're paying for it.
They probably made it free in hopes of getting people to move to the newer platform so they have less they need to support (dropping support for older platforms earlier than they otherwise could be able to)
That said, Windows 10 is pretty much still complete shit.
>>52637352 Then tell me what personal data do they obtain through Windows exactly. (outside of using a Microsoft account, of course, because that's exactly the same as having a Google account on Android, for example)
You clearly don't even know what telemetry means. You very likely didn't know that every OS before W10 also had telemetry in one way or another, W10 just was more upfront about it. You don't actually believe that Windows 7 had no telemetry data collection before they released that "telemetry update", do you? How the hell do you think they made that decision of removing the start menu while developing Windows 8 because only a small percentage of users actually used it?
telemetry is EVERYWHERE, even on websites. And you lived with it your whole braodband-using life. Now one OS release decides to launch a more transparent ToS, and you idiots freak out like it's a brand new thing.
Why are you even on the technology board if you're so clueless about technology?
>>52629208 You can't say we're being contrarian dumbasses when we KNOW M$ and the government are spying on us. Ten years ago you could call us conspiracy theorists, but now everything we predicted (and more) has been confirmed.
I'm a conspiracy FACTist, not a conspiracy theorist.
>telemetry is EVERYWHERE, even on websites. Block ads and scripts and there is none.
>>52637822 Fuck off. Windows 10 sends no personally identifiable information to anyone. Its all metada, to see how many people click on a link, or see how many times you use photoshop. Most of that information is deleted after 3 or 6 months anyway.
Stop trolling about msft being an evil corporation having an individual file on each of its users.
>Block ads and scripts and there is none. There is none functionality either. Try going to Facebook blocking all scripts and see what happens, for example. >b-but I don't use facebook Sure, but the other 99%+ of people who are not autists do. You and your unusual habits are irrelevant to the big picture.
>>52637822 >Also, just knowing the definition of telemetry doesnt mean you automatically have to accept it and feel comfortable sharing it. >I don't feel comfortable sharing what interface elements I click, how often I open menus and how many resources my background processes are using Could you be any more autistic? Telemetry isn't four guys at microsoft around a computer watching your screen remotely and laughing at you while you masturbate to chinese cartoons, you fucking retard.
>>52637910 >>>52637822 >Fuck off. No. >Windows 10 sends no personally identifiable information to anyone. Guess who hasn't read the EULA >Its all metada, to see how many people click on a link, or see how many times you use photoshop. Partially true. The data that gets sent back vontains a lot more than that
>Most of that information is deleted after 3 or 6 months anyway. Unless you're the guy in charge of microwaving then shredding server disks, you cannot even attempt to make that statement. >Stop trolling about msft being an evil corporation having an individual file on each of its users.
Oh. Haha. There's the camera. You got me. That was good bait, m8
>>52638077 >zero arguments presented >calls others shitposters This is the technology board. If you don't want to discuss technology, go to /b/ or /r9k/ or something like that. Or better yet, kill yourself.
>>52630958 >someone challenges my operating system You do realize that there are literally __millions__ of lines of code in the Linux kernel, and you only need a few cleverly disguised bits of code to open up the entire system to attack?
Literally JUST got done putting together a new PC, Skylake, still put Win7 on it. Mobo only has USB3 drivers, so I had to edit the Win7 installer, then put my hard drive in another PC to put post-installer USB3.0 drivers on... totally worth.
>>52634209 >You guys probably did a clean install of 10. I seem to have gotten a severely botched upgrade install. Refreshing it wouldn't even work. >half the updates to 7/8/8.1 have been improve updating >it still shits itself ayy
>>52651773 Clause 2 states that all copyright protected content, and in particular photos and videos that users post may be used by Facebook in either non-commercial or commercial way. Because the license is non-exclusive, users retain the right to continue to use and exploit their content as well in any way they deem suitable (e.g. grant licences to other parties).
The license is transferable and sub-licensable, implying that Facebook may authorize any third party to use protected content of an individual user and receive payment for it. The license is furthermore royalty-free, which implies that users will not receive any form of remuneration nor share in the proceeds that Facebook might collect from third parties in consideration of an authorisation to use photos or videos from users.
The license is worldwide, so Facebook may allow use of a user’s content on a worldwide basis. In principle, the license is terminated when the protected materials (photos and or/videos) are deleted. However, if the content has been shared with other users who have not deleted it from their profile, the license continues to apply until the date of deletion of a particular content by every user with whom the content has been shared. So basically, the license may be of a perpetual nature in cases where content is shared with others.
The usual argument of normies is I fucking have nothing to hide, so why should I worry if they spy on me. This is the most retarded excuse ever, they don't necessary have to know what kind of porn you watch or what l33t haxor files you got, take the more general cases. Someone has a fucking heart disease for example, starts jewgeling about symptoms of heart disease, types of heart surgeries and their prices.... Get's tracked go to insurance company and they tell him to fuck off and die.
>>52627269 if they have been collecting information to "improve the customers experience" since windows 7 and before....
why havent they been listening? why did they decide to do whatever the fuck they want? why do they need more info than a decade+ worth to do almost nothing with it? oh thats right... becuase they don't give a fuck, they a re a business and will follow the money/market shifts.
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