Why are Chinese phones better AND cheaper than the main brands

>>52621668
They're not.
/thread

>>52621668

Elephone has been releasing phones that work on Americas 4g networks soon shit will hit the fan

>>52621736
/thread

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>>52621668
>ulefone power
>$199

>>52621668
Better access to cheaper parts, Chinese manufacturers are willing to make smaller margins (or will sell at cost in the beginning just to get their name out there)

>>52621736
They actually are and its undeniable
Also they seem to have better custom UIs

>>52622027
Also better performance, and not afraid of better OEMs than qualcomm, like mediatek.

>inb4 mediatek a shit
At least their 64 bit chips don't throttle.
Also better performance, mtk6752 will btfo a sd615, match the 801 in single thread and destroy it in multithread.

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>>52621736
>Don't destroy my illusive fanboyism.
/thread

>>52621668
Because they have something to prove.
All the big brands can just crank out whatever, slap their name on it and it will sell millions of units.
These guys actually have to make their product stand out for people to choose a Chinaphone over a Samsung Galaxy, iPhone or Sony XPeria or something.

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>>52622099
And that's why my next phone will be a chinkfone.
They are to phones what 2005 was to technology. Innovative and interesting.

>>52622161
>Innovative and interesting.
What are those things?

[spoiler]>>52622427
5000mah batteries in same form factor as your usual htc/samesung phone? thats great

>>52621668
Because phone performance is a scam and its all a big consumerist circle jerk and it doesn't actually matter how good or cheap phones are when they are only bought as fashion accessories.

>>52622514
Chink chonk
thats small
http://wccftech.com/oukitel-smartphone-holds-massive-10000-mah-battery/
Oukitel have 10000mah battery

>>52621736
Whilst I agree with you...
CAN YOU LITTLE PATHETIC FUCKS STOP /THREAD YOUR OWN FUCKING POST.

>>52621668
They arent. Saying big numbers doesn't equate to performance.

Furthermore Chinese R&D consists of reverse engineering other known technologies , not actually designing their own.

Also you are the product, not the phone.

>>52622578
Now tell me how hot my phone will get

>>52622741
So hat it will excpolosive

>>52621668
>the battery will bring you EVERLASTING JOY!

kek

>>52621668
Why are chinese tablets better AND cheaper than the average laptop?

>>52621668

how can white man compete?

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>>52623734

Only looks good on paper. What you end up with is a shitty unresponsive touch screen and no battery life. They cut corners.

>>52623762
you are one of the corners they should cut off

>>52621668
>China is the main factory of most software parts
>they try to cut production costs so much that it gravely affects the quality of the product
>consumers end up with a phone that could hardly compete even with LG

>>52621668
>mtk
>falling for the mediatek meme

Those SOC are literally the shittiest cpu for smartphones on the market. That's why chinkphones are using them.

>>52622069
>having to have partition appositely for the apps, divided for the one used for media files.
>gps broken in every phone
>actually defending mediatek unironically.

>>52625194
>snapdragon 810

>>52621668
>>better
>>cheaper

Pick one.

>>52621668
Because in case of Apple and Samsung you pay more for their brands. Simply put, literally for nothing.

>>52621668
>6050 mah
Because all phones are produced in China.
Also mediatek
Xiaomi produces high quality Snapdragon phones for cheap, I wonder if you get warranty when you buy them

>>52627988
>I wonder if you get warranty when you buy them
Probably not. Then again, at 1/4 the price, you could break three of them in one year and still come out even with same spec flagships.

>>52621668
At leas post new technology.
http://mediatek-helio.com/x20/

>>52625137
Wake up m8, it's 2016.

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What's the point of 8-Core mobile processors if they can't all run simultaneously, have weaker single core performance then a Snapdragon 801, and underclocked and undervolted, plus they constantly thermal throttle?

>>52628136
It's all real in your head.

>>52623762
Fuck off

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>>52628136
Lenovo k3 note.
Mt6752 matches sd801 single thread performance and BTFOs it in multithread. My friend got the k3 note for aud199. Also Qualcomm 64 bit processors overheat a lot more than the mediatek ones.

>>52627988
Nothing wrong with mediatek. Plus a debloated stock rom is better than a cm or aosp rom because those have shit drivers.

>>52625137
Haha nice meme.

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>>52628284
For comparison here's my geekbench score.

>lg g3

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>>52628284
Lenovo K3 Note reporting in!

>>52623762
>>52625137
They don't cut corners or anything, it's just that Chinese have always been matters of mass manufacturing, their price per part is magnitudes lower than the western counterpart.
Pic related is a $150 Chinese phone, it has MT6752, it's amazing for the price.

>>52621668
They are cheaper, but you seriously aren't saying the latest Mediatek SoC comes even close to the latest Exynos or the Apple A9, are you?

>>52628380
The latest Mali GPUs can do 4k video, Apple's A9 and Exynos or snapdragon can't compete

>>52628400
>A9
>Exynos 7
>Snapdragon 820
>can't do 4k video
wot

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>>52628324
Almost got this phone over my g3, but I had a friend who gave me the g3 for $150 so I went with that instead.

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>>52628380
Maybe not in single thread, but multithread is very close.
And unlike ios, android is very well threaded.

A9 is still the better chip, but the mediateks aren't significantly worse, I'm not sure about efficiency compared to the a9, but the mt6752 is more efficient than the SD615. Mediatek is pulling ahead of qualcomm, especially since they don't throttle like the 810.

>>52628464
Well, yeah Qualcomm has been dying for a long time. If things continue as is, MediaTek would pull ahead, just trailing behind Samsung as the lead mobile SoC manufacturer

>tfw Intel will never matter in the mobile SoC market

>>52628464
>what is the 820
>rushed 810 so they could sell the 64 bit meme
Not even a shill

>>52628492
Well, that's Qualcomm's fault.

>>52628483
>even though mobile atom chips fucking anal rape all these puny snapdragons and Exynos or whatever

>>52628533
I know right? For some reason, they keep on pushing those things that are on the Zenfones when they could release the mobile atoms and kill everyone.

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> 8 cores
> 1.5GHz
> 2GB RAM
> 1080p screen
> 13MP camera
> $106USD

Are you ready for the chinkphone takeover?

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>>52628687
>back button on the right side
Other than that it seems nice.

>>52628687
I've noticed Huawei has been making some damn aggressive pushes lately into the Western android market. There's a huge portion of users who want a mid-level phone. Not the $75 phones, not the $400+ flagship phones. There's a lot of people out there who want a $100 or $200 phone (lower middle class people who want that "price to performance sweet spot"), and Hauwei is targeting them.

>>52628707

The back button is on the right side of my cheapo Samsung Galaxy Core Prime. I'm used to it.

>Android M on 6S Plus hardware will never happen
;_;

>>52628721
Fug I thought they were always on the left. Guess that's what I get for using a HTC One M8 for so long.

>>52628730
Samsung has always implemented the back button on the right thing

>>52628739
I suppose it's time to shekel up to buy a Chinkphone and get used to it.

>>52621668
>mediakek
>not even once >not even once >not even once >not even once >not even once >not even once

>>52628719

I think people are starting to realize that spending $600 on a new phone every 18 months is just stupid.

Right now $50-$100 gets you a quad core 1.2GHz phone with a gig of RAM and a 4.5-5" screen and for 99% of the things a phone can do those specs are overkill.

The mid-range $100-$200 level market is ripe right now, the right companies with the right devices could make a killing.

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>>52628730
It's on the left for my lg g3 too.

>>52621668

Theyre not better? Theyre just cheapier just because they got läst generation Softwares which still is good but they make it really cheap.

>>52628761
This.
Flagships are just overrated and overkill.

Midrange/budget is where the moneys at. OPPO seems to be doing pretty well here in aus targeting that market. And don't forget how much the moto g gets shilled.

>>52628761
Yeah, I'll be keeping this 6S Plus of mine for maybe 4 years before replacing it. I don't understand spending on a flagship and replacing it the year after

>>52628790
Tbh I'd rather get a new budget phone every year instead of a flagship every 4 years. It'll turn out cheaper, software updates won't be a problem, and neither will aging hardware. In fact you won't even need to upgrade after a year if it's still good enough for your uses.

Budget phones just make more sense to me than flagships.

>>52628819
Yeah, I just got this thing as a gift. I personally just bought the $150 phones

>>52628819

Doing that vs. flagships lasting you three or more years means you'll have better battery life and will see new features more often as they trickle down into budget/midrange phones.

>>52628761
Every person under the age of 25 I've talked to recently seems to be stuck in the mindset that Android is ONLY $40 prepaid text-and-facebook machines or $600 galaxy s6's, so they just default to iPhone. It's really frustrating too because nice 1080p $200 androids are out there.

>>52628852
Problem is that most $100-200 phones aren't marketed and most of them are import only.

>>52628832
Exactly why I do that.

Nexus 5 was the only flagship that was worth it brand new in my opinion.

>>52628865
Mainly because the cost difference between a budget smartphone and a flagship is 50 dollars at most yet the flagship sells for $500 more than the budget phone.

Those $200 phones are only there to fill a price point, no manufacturer cares about them, except for those looking to take advantage of that market.

>>52628936
Anon, those 200$phones are the only ones that sell big, maybe not in the states, but everywhere else

>>52628936

> the cost difference between a budget smartphone and a flagship is 50 dollars at most yet the flagship sells for $500 more than the budget phone

If anyone is wondering, this shit is the reason why phone manufacturers are starting to remove MicroSD card slots from their phones.

Why allow the user to purchase a 32GB microsd card for $15 online when you could instead just sell another model of your phone with 32GB more storage and price it at $100 more?

If Apple releases the rumored 4-inch iPhone at $300-400, do you guys think it would make a dent in the mid-range market?

>>52628961
I live in aus and the 2 most common phones I see on the bus is an iPhone, or a samsung flagship. Sometimes an older model line the iPhone 4s or the galasy s3, sometimes the latest model.

I've only seen one 1+1, and very rarely seen a phone that wasn't a flagship at some point.

Some budget phones sell alright like the galaxy j1 for example. But they're still just not as common.

Dont take my word for the entire country, i only live in a tiny part of australia and don't travel far.

>>52628987
>do you guys think it would make a dent
definitely

>>52629311
kek

>>52621736
>>52626986
>implying the snapdragon 810 overheats
Wake up its not 2015 q1

>>52621668
Anon... Don't you know Applel make their phones on China?

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>>52629436
You're right. Now it's limited to a lower frequency to prevent overheating and throttling.

Or in the lumia 950 xl where they used a bloody heatpipe because it's such an overheating piece of shit SoC.

>>52629452
So?
We are talking about chinese phones NOT phones made in china

>>52628987
>apple
>budget phone
Steve Jobs must be rolling in his grave.

I've used over half a dozen different chinkphones from different brands but they never support their phones with new firmware past the first year.

Also the GPS on a lot of the MTK chipset phones just don't fucking work.

I ended up buying an Asus after much frustration with tacked together firmware fixes that fix one thing and break another.

Now I have no firmware problems, and my phone has been upgraded to 5.1 even though it arrived on market with 3.x.

>>52630226
Other than the gps any other issues that stand out? I'm not too bothered by updates.

>>52628707
Tfw left handed

>>52622629
>Also you are the product, not the phone.
>implying this is somehow different from major western brands

The last 10% of finish/refining is the most expensive by far and this is where china skip a bit to keep the price down, do you need a perfect product, look some where else, if you can live with a bit of roughness go a head.

>>52621668
>Why are Chinese phones better AND cheaper than the main brands like apple and Samsung.
I really wanted to get one of these just to be a hipster for once in my life, but alas my carrier is AT&T. Maybe one of these days these Chinese companies will cater to GSM users.

Alright guys, recommend me a chinkphone.

Looking for something 5" with decent power that will work on aus 4G networks (ideally optus, LTE 700) and has ac wifi for $200-400au.

So far i've looked at the Zenfone 2, but the powerful one only exists in 5.5"

>>52632289
Why wireless ac? 150n isn't even a bottleneck yet here.

Also I recommend the ulefone power just because it should have a killer battery life.

>>52630293
Camera is shit, no updates, security flaws, no where to buy battery, cases, screen protectors, no GPS, some games like Puzzles & Dragons Japanese version isn't compatible.

>>52621668
because they have backdoors and the chinese govt uses them to spy on americans

>>52633528
I have no problem at this since I'm not American

>>52633528
i'd rather be spied by the ching chongs than by the fatties

Lenovo K3 Note here, best purchase I've made so far. Cheap, long lasting battery, awesome CPU. Although now a Redmi Note 2 might be even better value for money.

>>52629494
holy shit just wow

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>muh cores

Isn't this just an example of supply and demand? Phone manufacturers obviously feel they can jack up phone prices and still get enough sales, thus maximizing their profits.

Nobody wants to pay for chink shit - which is, frequently inferior- , and thus they're forced to lower their prices to even compete in the market.

> country that makes all your shit
> able to sell things cheaper and better

huh i wonder why

Do any chinkphones fit in Gear VR?

>>52635726
mate, stop living in your bubble. China literally doesn't care about the international market, they've got their own. Have you noticed any (true) Chinese brand doing their international marketing themselves? I'll tell you, no they haven't, with the exception of a real small minority (Lenovo because they purchased some relevant companies, and Huawei because they're so fucking huge). China is a system on it's own, and buying your phones from them is simply taking advantage of that fact.

Chinkphone manufacturers spend less on advertising so their phones are cheaper for the same quality.

>>52635797
So tl;dr they cant compete on the international markets.

>>52635829
tl;dr doesn't work if you actually haven't read the original. They don't compete because they don't have to, the Chinese market is literally larger than the American one.

>>52635848
Larger doesn't mean more profitable.

Also, we weren't specifically talking about JUST the US market, good job moving the goalposts.

>ulefone definitely disagree to the bad idea

>>52627988
I don't get why you would ever need a warranty for a phone besides manufacturing defects

I can reflash it and repair it

Are you a babby who drops his phone every day?

>>52628062
That's cool

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>>52628284
For comparison my riced k3 note

>>52636054
font?

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>>52636277
>>>52636054 (You)
>font?


STAY AWAY FROM ME FBI

>>52636376
what

>>52636376
Kek

>>52628761
this, motorola had it within grasp but dun goofed with the 720p screen and no frontal speaker of the Moto G 3

>>52637884
>720p screen
So pretty much a retina screen and better performance than all those 1080p phones. I fail to see the problem here.

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>>52621668
>which will deal with light and heavy apps as well as massive games without sweating

I like my Huawei phone, except the software is bloated and I did not check if I could install custom rom on it before I bought it. Still great and cheap

>>52621668
Apple and Samsing ARE chinese phones.

>>52621668
samsung and apple are chinese phones too OP

>>52622608
y u so butthurt?

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>>52639840
>>52642139
You're missing the point guys

>>52621668
>octa-core
More like 8 underpowered cores.
Even a quad-core Qualcomm could beat it.