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>had my 1080p monitor for about a year
>It's always been slightly washed out but I took it as a "Get what you pay for" kinda thing
>realize today via nvidia inspector that my PC thought my monitor was an HD TV this whole time and was using a limited color spectrum
>flipped it to full, night and day difference, like having a brand new monitor
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>>52620115
16-235 needs to die
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>>52620115
Nvidia's shitty drivers always default to limited RGB no matter what. There wasn't even a toggle in the driver control panel to change it to full until last year. You had to download a third party program to do it.
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>>52620115
Why are tvs so shit?

I've literally never in my life seen a tv that didn't hurt my eyes with its awful image. They also always have dogshit slow, fugly, laggy and convoluted firmware. Pc monitors on the other hand have a perfect, crisp image and just werk, and just act as pure, straightforward, instant output devices instead of being half a pc on their own.
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>>52620198
>>52620133
Why does 16-235 spectrum even exist?
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>Plugged dvi to a hdmi monitor via adapter wondering why there's no sound coming out of it.
>Purchased a meme case and looked whole day for the power switch (even took it back to the shops thinking it's broken and was proven wrong with a single flick of clerc's finger, much to the amusement of everyone inside)
>Downloaded win 7 update isos and installed manually to not connect to microsoft servers in fear of legal consequences
>Shrekt battery compartment cover on an old laptop because i didn't notice the latch that you're supposed to pull beforehand

Fucking stupid. Lessons learned, at least.
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>>52620115
sauce
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>>52620689
here senpai
>>>/hc/909804
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>>52620278
this
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Bought a r7 370

From strix
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>>52620115
What's the benefit of using it in full? Can somebody explain?

It already looks really nice with the limited color profile... Do people who use Photoshop and crap use a full color range or something?
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>>52620982
Never mind, I changed it to full and changed my monitor's HDMI Black level to normal and it looks so much better.

Thanks, /g/, maybe you are right sometimes.
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>>52620964
is there something wrong with strix version of 370?
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>>52620115
My first experience with Linux (actually second, my first attempt at installing Mint was unsuccesfful due to me being inpatient, fucked up my HDD and gave up for a few months).

Installed debian, WLAN didn't work.
Started reading up, after like an hour learned about debian's nonfree policy and came up across debian's wiki page on iwlwifi.
After successful installation of the drivers and reboot it still didn't fucking work.

After 2 hours of reinstalling the drivers, trying to edit the configuration and literally standing on my head I noticed the hardware switch was in OFF postition.

I don't recall feeling more braindead in my life.
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>>52620982
>What's the benefit of having the entire sandwich?
>This half-sandwich I have here is very tasty already. Why would anyone want the whole thing?
Jokes aside, the biggest difference when playing vidya is shadows. Go launch something like Alien Isolation for example and flip-flop between the two modes. The dark is darker and the light is lighter.
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>>52620982
Limited clips the dark black and bright whites. Good monitors can show the different gradations at the extremes.
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>>52621052
Asus is already bad with amd and the 370 is a rebrand. I couldve gotten a hd 7950 for the same price of 130usd
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>>52621061
>hardware wifi switches
unnecessary cancer: the hardware
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>>52620115
Where in inspector did it tell you that?
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>>52621073
It's not even just the extremes. All colours are a lot richer with full RGB, even on a shitty HDTV (but there you'll get crushed blacks too).
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>>52621412
Adding to that list - additional power switch.
Encountered one on some older, big ass lg tv. Hidden on the backpanel with all the connectors behind a thin piece of plastic. Facing down of course.
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>>52620198
not entirely true, this issue only occured when using hdmi and displayport. occasionally i mentioned it on /g/ or made a thread about it. poeple rarely cared. fucking amazing how long it took them to fix that shit.

>>52621025
when wrongly chosing either full rgb or limited rgb the result with either be black crush or washed out blacks, colors and contrast suffer in turn. it depends.
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I tried delidding a brand new $250 3570k half asleep and drunk

I cracked the die

I even made a thread about it on /g/
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>>52621052
Asus is shit tier who literally just copies cooler designs from Nvidia and slaps them onto AMD cards.
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>>52620115
>nvidia inspector
What is this and where can I find it?
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>>52621481
test image
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php
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>>52621528
>What is this and where can I find it?

Kidding me?
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/nvidia-inspector-download.html
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>>52621528
It's like people have never heard of the word Google...
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>>52621532
>1-5 are the same kind of black
fuck
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I bought a 280x a couple days ago.
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>>52621555
>>52621582
I googled it and there was no mention of it on Nvidia website
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>>52621610
black crush. could have many reasons. what gpu? interface? browser? monitor?
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Nobody told me that you're not supposed to stand your computer up on styrofoam. I asked you motherfuckers and you all said it was fine.
Nobody told me it was fucking ridiculously staticky. When I finally took my computer off of it all of its temps dropped 7 degrees C.
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>>52621662
Nvidia won't endorse it cause then plebs would blame them for the housefires. I'm not sure NI is even from nvidia at all
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>>52621662
It's not made by NVIDIA. That's the whole point. It opens up all the settings and info they don't want you to have. It's by Orbmu2k.
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>>52621673
gtx 970 with an asus vg236h
pic looks good on my second monitor.
did a factory reset on my monitor and now it looks ok-ish
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>>52621721
might wanna go through the whole calibration process then. doesn't take long - assuming you haven't set up any funky color profiles or retarded browser.


http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
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>>52621769
actually there's a download link on that page, probably should use that.
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>>52621521
I always wondered, if you were enough of an asshole to do so, couldn't you just glue the lid back on half-assedly and refund/RMA it? Or do they not take refunds on CPUs?
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>>52621412
What ever you say nsa
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>>52621521
Lol fucking retar
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>>52621805
whatever, you messed up. own up to it, buy another one, skip next night out or restaurant.
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>>52620115
how do you change the color spectrum?
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>>52620198
This? I think it's just for video. By default seems to be off.
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I bought a 390 NITRO six months ago to play Minecraft with shaders.

Never regretted it.
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>>52621426
OP here. Meant to say Nvidia control panel
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>>52621887
motherfucker! what. is. goodle!?! huh? what is it? i can't hear you!

https://pcmonitors.info/articles/correcting-hdmi-colour-on-nvidia-and-amd-gpus/
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Basically replaced my entire PC last year because my video card went out and I couldn't figure out the issue. Turned out pretty much every part had an issue anyway.
>both HDDs replaced
>new video card
>new CPU
>new mobo
>new power supply
Basically last year I replaced everything but my mouse.
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>>52621881
>next night out
>restaurant
>$250

Sucks being a lower-middle class student.
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>>52621917
no, not that. that is just for video. look here >>52622004
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>>52621917
no
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had a monitor set @ 720P because i was using the wrong cable for about a year and a half. was mad af.
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>>52622004
I have no idea what Google is!
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>>52622070
What the hell? Are you trying to use it with aN AMD card or something? Where are all your menus?
Also
>windows 10
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>>52622045
not sure how anybody can do this and not tell the difference

720p and 1080p is like night and day for any screen over 20"
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>>52622005
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this is amazing. all of it.
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>>52620413
Dvi to hdmi carries audio anon. For reals
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>>52620133
Mine was on that and I just changed to full. Literally nothing changed.
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>>52622101
You tell me asshole
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>>52622173
Did you change the setting Change Resolution or color settings? Use this
>>52622043
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>>52622070
>>52622101
I think that's the driver winblows 10 comes by default with an the updates M$ is pushing to it. Install from Nvidia site.

>>52622024
>>52622043
Thanks
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>>52621769
>http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gamma_calibration.php
>gamma is around 1.6
fuck
I just messed around with nvidia settings, and it works with pic related.
Games are gonna disable those settings though. Am I fucked?
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>>52622043
b-but, how come I don't have #3?
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>>52622270
>http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
>With the test images on these pages, you can easily adjust the settings of your monitor to get the best possible picture quality.
>ith the first few test images, you can calibrate your monitor by adjusting the brightness, contrast, clock/phase, sharpness, and gamma settings of the monitor
>of your monitor / of the monitor
the osd, anon. use it!
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>>52622336
>https://pcmonitors.info/articles/correcting-hdmi-colour-on-nvidia-and-amd-gpus/
>As of driver version 347.09, Nvidia have added a small drop-down to the Nvidia Control Panel (NCP) that will allow you to enforce the correct ‘Full Range’ signal.
Oh I don't know, update? Or sse DVI like a sane person and never worry about it again? Ignore the problem? Your call.
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>>52622336
The output toggle was only added like a year ago. Redownload/update Control Panel from nvidia's site
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>>52622442
Scratch that, I'm retarded. It updates with driver updates. Which raises the question: why haven't your drivers been updated in like a year?
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>>52620413
>>52622159
yeah, i got that to work eventually too. just needed to hook up an audio cable from the sound card my video card. dvi>hdmi carried the audio.
Because DVI is so old now I always thought of it the same way as vga with extra bells and whistles. Live and learn

ALSO, just recently learned there are some implementations of hdmi that carry LAN. THATS AWESOME!
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>>52622470
Ooh, here. Here. I know. I know the answer... Stupidity? Is it because of stupidity?
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>>52622395
Played around a bit and it seems I can't change gamma on the osd
guess I'm fucked
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>First computer built from scratch
> install athlon 1ghz WITHOUT the heatsink
>Turn it on to see if it works.

>take apart camera
>touch metal housing near fully charged capacitor that holds flash
my vision fucking RESET when i touched it

>Working on a Mac Pro Monitor board
Touch pliers across a few contacts by accident
>heard a loud pop and saw a nice flash

>every time I pick up a soldering iron.

>Friends computer is acting totally fucked
>Maybe the thermal paste is bad
>Manage to yank out the heating and the processor in one tug without unlatching the processor
I would never have expected that thermal paste could become goddamn cement

>Friend from Comp Sci course cant figure out why his trackpad is busted. Tries for an hour to reinstall trackpad driver
>Trackpad toggles switch set to off

>Girlfriends monitor wont turn on. she has tried everything and begs me to commute 2 hours to her to fix it
>the power brick was only about 10% plugged into the cable
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>>52622717
Don't quote me in this, but I believe if you open up a specific games settings menu in the control panel, you can force it to use certain global/nvidia color and display settings.I know you can inject forms of AA and AF but I'm like 75% sure things like gamma can be forced too
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>>52622769
>>Turn it on to see if it works
How'd that go down for you?
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>>52622428
>Or sse DVI like a sane person

*poor person
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>>52622807
I didnt know processors NEEDED the heatsink in order to not INSTANTLY BURN!
Luckily it was kinda cheap and I got a pretty 1.3ghz athlon to replace it.
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>>52622812
breaking news. poor person to preorder pic related - might not be poor after all.
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>>52623010
Danny?
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>>52623010
that's what poor people say
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>>52622769
>the last one
She wanted the dick, sempai
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>>52623010
>Danny?
Not sure if meme. I don't know who that is.
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>>52623047
I am aware, but I was still slightly pissed
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>>52620115
Jesus, you just saved me from buying a new monitor
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>last spring
>have asus p6t mobo with i7-920
>get a 290
>keeps BSODing
>consult with my techfa/g/ buddy
>turns out need better PSU
>he also says to update BIOS
>never flashed a mobo BIOS, nervous
>find an asus BIOS flash app that works in windows, awesome
>run it
>"flash failed"
>wut
>do some googling, turns out app only works on 32-bit windows
>mobo bricked
Couldn't find a cheap 1366 mobo so just got a 4790k/msi gaming 7 combo from microcenter, glad I upgraded (was freelance video editing at the time and was a huuuge noticeable difference) but goddamn do I feel stupid. I think they sell BIOS chips on ebay for $20 so might just do that and use it as a media device in the living room.
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>>52620115
>>52620982
>>52621025
>>52621917
>>52621887
>>52621610
>>52623156
>Not knowing that HDMI defaults to dumb shit on both Nvidia and AMD cards
>Assuming that god awful blacks and whites are just how your shitty monitor was meant to be
>Never realizing that something looks way the fuck off
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>>52623156
op is jesus?
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>>52623242
I got the monitor second hand and assumed or was just a piece of shut monitor
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>>52620115
I did that too with my monitor. It's a Dell S2440L. That Yblablablal thing is better than RGB on it but it defaulted to RGB. It's a complete order of magnitude of a difference.
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Just imagine how probably 80%+ of people are doing this exact same thing with their new builds, specially now with the whole MUH PC MASTER RACE reddit shit bringing in a lot of clueless retards to PCs.
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>>52623237
Copy bios rom to USB drive
Boot to CMOS setup
Enter BIOS's built-in flash utility

So much easier than booting to DOS using an actual 3.5" floppy disk, downloading the right flash utility for the motherboard you have, and working out the correct command to use.
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>>52623524
eh, aren't they more or less side-grades to each other? I was under the impression the ywhateverwhatever44 setting just used slightly different color values in place of others
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>>52623631
Now that you can select Full under RGB on the nvidia control panel, yeah, I can't distinguish a difference, but you couldn't before.
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>>52620413
You really think Microsoft gives a flying fuck if you installed their win blows illegitimately? If that were the case I've installed so many copies I would have been executed publicly.
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>>52621532
>Test in browser
1-5 are the same with 5 barely different.

>Test in image viewer
1-5 are all distinct.

>Fullscreen that bitch like the site says
1-5 are back to samey.

What's going on?
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>>52623902
If there is any white/bright spaces near the black blocks, it might just be causing your eyes to play tricks on you
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>>52624731
What does that mean? Testing it at full resolution in my image viewer makes it clear there are blocks at 1 - 5 while going fullscreen or looking at it in my browser has the first five blend in with the background.
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>>52620115
I spent about 20 minutes searching for my phone with my phone flashlight. I'm not fucking joking. I was 100% sober, no drugs at all, just rummaging through my whole house looking for this phone I was holding in my hand.
If that doesn't scare you, nothing will.
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>>52626294
Don't feel bad anon, I've done this plenty of times
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>>52626294
Not technology but related

I recently made a payment on my credit card from a web app when I noticed my drivers license was missing. I tore apart my room looking for it, called stores I visited, gave up, and ordered a new one. Then I found it under my computer chair.

It fell out literally seconds before I noticed it was gone.

/blog
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I was using my monitor with my xbone through hdmi the other day and it looked really washed out compared to when I have it hooked up to my pc through dvi. Is this limited color thing to blame? Can it be adjusted on the bone?
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>>52627669
xbox one scaler is all sorts of fucked. give up on trying to correctly calibrate that thing right now. it's a known issue with the console. think even the 360 was sort of funky that way.
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>>52627669
>xbone

wtf
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>pre-/g/ me
>bought ps3 for CoD MW2
>used scart on old projection tv
>get HDTV for christmas
>plug in ps3 using scart
>picture is a bit clearer than old projector TV so I was moderately happy but also a touch disappointed

Three months later
>friend raved about how HDTV is orders of magnitude better
>argued with him that it was mostly placebo, but alarm bells rang when he mentioned the different cable
>got home, spent two minutes in the googles
>borrowed a neighbour's HDMI cable
>exaliftin colour and sharpness

I felt so fucking stupid
I had been playing blu ray off that thing too.
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>>52621661
380 cough
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>>52620278
Because early LCD TVs were shit and would actually display full black at 16 and full white at 235 because the extra bits were used for some shit.
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>>52622769
The power brick halfway plugged in happens more often than you might think. I work in IT and it actually happened to me recently. It's just one of those brain fart moments.
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>>52622496
Its update-skipping tards like him who made m$ push mandatory updates.
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>>52630651
This. tbqfh f.am

The number of windows 7 laptops I was asked to "fix" which had literally never been updated since the day they were bought is off the charts.
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>>52622043
I've never had it not default to full. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
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>>52630879
Easy money, m$ took er jerbs!
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>>52629690

How many threads per day did you make on /g/ claiming it was placebo when you were just a dumbass?

Now i understand why everything gets called placebo on this board. Idiots that don't understand how technology works posting on a technology board.
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> taking five years to realize I had to dust my PC myself otherwise it'll fuck itself
> if I saw dust flying out of it I'd just turn the fan speed to 100 and leave out on all night.

I thought everytime I saw that flying it was cleaning itself.
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are these colours full or limited? How do I know which one I am using?

I have a dvi cable and not hdmi though my screen and card can into hdmi
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>>52620198
Not true in the least.
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>>52630959
Then you weren't using HDMI and/or a 1080 monitor. That's primarily who it seems to affect. Don't be a cunt.
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>>52631693
It exclusively affects HDMI user as far as I can tell. You're already using full with DVI.
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OP here. Just to avoid any further confusion for anyone else just now realizing they may also have this problem:

I meant to say Nvidia CONTROL PANEL, not inspector. Use >>52622043 for reference.
If you don't see those options, your drivers are likely out of date.
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>>52620115
I've been using YCbCr all this time
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>>52630959
>IT D-DIDN'T H-HAPPEN TO M-M-ME. YOU M-MUST BE L-LYING!
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Not me, but a friend of mine:
>Sitting by his computer talking to other classmates on IRC and browsing the web
>Computer shuts down on it's own
>The fuck is this?
>Power plug probably came lose again
>Crawls down by the computer and checks that the power plug is connected on the computer's side
>It is connected, but the machine won't boot
>Hmmm... What's this switch?
>Flicks said switch
>Turns out it's the 110/220V switch on the PSU
>PSU immediately lets out a loud bang and sparks as his face is literally inches from it
>Also takes out the fuse
>Suffers from tinnitus for the rest of the evening
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>>52622004
Holy mother of cuck.

I tried setting it to full and my monitor actually made colors seem look better. It may be placebo but hell something's has changed all right.
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>>52632455
displayport too. if connected through dvi the option to change it isn't even there i think. at least not for me and my driver's are recent. it default to full rgb levels with dvi. as was said, hdmi & dp is a different story. not 100% how and if resolution factors into this.
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>>52621661
280x is actually a good value, even outperforms 380x.
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>>52632494
>Printing @59 fps
Pleb, I bet you used A4, too.
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>tfw second monitor on DVI is shit and doesn't go full black or full white
>but at least I can distinguish the blacks... right guys?
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>>52620115
>>realize today via nvidia inspector that my PC thought my monitor was an HD TV this whole time and was using a limited color spectrum
Where is this option on nvidia inspector?
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>>52622004
fucker are you joking? no option there
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>>52620115
>be me
>Trying out Ubuntu from within Debian Jessie
>decide to use Grub instead of making a usb/dvd
>add the ISO To the grub menu
>boot the iso
>decide to format everything on the hard drive
>obviously the iso is on the hard drive
>Linux partition and ISO destroyed
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>>52634347
>doesn't go full black or full white
do you have a CRT or OLED monitor?
then no, it does not go full black
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fuck you for using that picture OP
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tar -cvf'd when I meant to -xvf
I've done this multiple times.
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>>52620115
Accidentally rm -rf my /home
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>>52620115
>flipped it to full
how did you do that
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>>52634547
>DVI
are you 100% retarded? this issue is hdmi / displayport only - as has been stated and linked in this thread numerous times by now. basically it was nvidia going: 'it's got hdmi, duh, must be an hdtv. those are 16-235. punch it in.'
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>>52634699
>muh lunix inside joke
noone but 3 people get it here
I'm not one of them
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>>52622769
>soldering iron
Hoboy
>accidentally knock plugged soldering iron with elbow
>reflexively catch it
I had blisters for a week. Worst thing about these fuckers is that you don't feel the pain instantly, you have enough time to realise your fuckup before actually feeling it.
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>>52634804
READ THE THREAD! SEVERAL LINKS & SCREENSHOTS.

>ITT: "Oh god, I'm retarded" /g/ edition
couldn't be more true
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>>52620115
Running the command that plays the Zelda Theme Song. Anyone remember what it was?

>>52634608
That would have worked if you used easyBCD and set the iso to be loaded entirely in RAM. But it's a Windows only application.
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>>52620115
Isn't HD TV just 1080p?
Sorry for my ignorance but I haven't owned a monitor 10 years now (last one was a 19 inch 5:4 1280x1024)
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>>52632537

psus still have those? kek
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I got a thinkcentre a50 and I was using it to connect some old IDE drives and salvage data and it would not boot or display anything so I spent two hours swapping around cables, jumpers etc before I realised CPU power was unplugged
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>>52622004
>tfw didn't have to change anything
Thank dog
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>>52632537
Where did you take a class that has classmates that talk to each other on IRC?
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>>52620115
>Recently bought new monitor
>Take it out of box because fuck it why not
>Tried forcing HDMI plug into USB slot of PC
>Did this for about 2 minutes

Lessons were definitely learned, thankfully.
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>>52622004
>>52622070
>2016
>still using botnet Google
>also telling others to use it

WTF
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I guess trying to hotswap a floppy drive counts.
It died
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>>52622470
Because new drivers could fry/gimp your card or make your display unstable
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>>52620413

>makes mistakes
>learn from them and dont make them again instead of being a fucking retarded and blaming it on other people

Silver linings annon. I wish /g/ was more like this.
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itt: proof /g/ is fucking retarded
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>>52629759
My tinfoil hat wants to know what the extra bits were used for. Government surveillance?
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>>52635146
You mean I'm not meant to make accusatory frog threads on /g/ when something goes wrong?
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>>52631100
kekked
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>>52634804
Can you read the goddamn thread?
here >>52632484
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>>52635131
If your card is so old that new drivers are causing it to fry, it was time to upgrade anyways.
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>>52631100
Fuck
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>>52632537
>talking to classmates on irc
>mfw classmates on a programming course all use Skype or cuckbook
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>>52635789
I think frying was an exaggeration but he does have a point. If you know that everything works perfectly fine why chance it not working? This is the exact reason I find stable drivers and software and keep the installation media.
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>>52620115
How do I find this through nvidia inspector??
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>check this on your desktop
>all's good

>go to your htpc with its 1080p telly
>check range, it's on limited
>find hdmi true black setting, it was off
>adjust brightness and contrast with http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
>can't quite get the dimmest black and brightest white to show but eh, good enough
>it's so much better now
>less 'vivid' but much easier to look at

I should've done this years ago
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