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>cinnamon
install this shit on arch, it's a resource hog and half the shit is broken, switched to gnome3 and system is smooth and responsive, everything just werks.

don't fall for the linux mint garbage, they are useless.
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Rip frog
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>>52611097
>arch
>working
>ever
yeah, Mint is just fine; all you've proven is that Arch is meme-teir garbage.
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>>52611097
>gnome 3
>not systemdcancer tier
Fuck off with your dependency nightmare.
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>>52611097
For me, it goes KDE Plasma>Unity (if on Ubuntu)>Gnome>xfce4>any other shit tier de. I use Arch Linux, so I don't use Unity any more.
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>using anything other than MATE
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>>52611097
i3 just werks
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>>52611097
> GNOME 3
> smooth and functional

Pick one.
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I had CInnamon on my Arch VM and before avira fucked everything up it worked fine
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>>52611097
>GNOME
>better than anything
triggered
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>>52612312
>avira
>linucks
fucking why?
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>>52611097
Use
Xfce if you want something that's customizable and werks
LXDE if you want a lightweight DE
Openbox if you love customization and want a lightweight WM
Everything else is shit
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>>52612390

Screen tearing and barely supported
Buggy as fuck
No features
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>>52611097
> don't fall for the linux mint garbage, they are useless.

but you can get mint with anything from KDE to XFCE ...
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>>52612572
>Xfce
Works perfectly for me
>LXDE
Never really used it so that might be true
>Openbox
Yeah if you install Openbox and don't configure anything like a retard then you shouldn't be using a Linux distibution.
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>>52611097
>half the shit is broken,
Proof or shitpost fucking dumb frogposter
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>>52611097
What exactly is broken?
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>>52612714
probably his financial status
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>>52612692
>proof
fuck off cinnamon dev, I already switched to gnome and remove all traces of your shit tier resource hog DE
>>52612714
impossible to disable touchpad automatically on mouse detection, I got a working udev rule but synclient would crash. on gnome it just werks.

resource hog, I had to hard reset my laptop a few time because it became totally unresponsive

crash on resume from sleep

I installed gnome3 and all issues are gone
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>>52612891
>Resource hog
>Moves to GNOME
How does it feel to be this retard?
Alternatively,how does it feel to be this poor?
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>>52611097
>gnome3
My mom's son uses it, he says it's pretty fast
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what shit tier computer are you using because cinnamon is smooth as fuck on mine.
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>>52612365
Avira was on WIndows 7. VirtualBox on Windows and arch in vritualbox

Need a picture?
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I can't believe that in an age of 8 and more gigs of RAM people are still nitpicking over "resource hogging" in DEs.
>muh 200 megs wasted
>loads up Firefox in Windows in order to post this
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gnome3 is so shit, cinnamon is way better i'd literally use anything before i'd use gnome3 even unity
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>>52613162
that's why you should never listen to /g/. gnome3 is literally the only good full feature DE on linux
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>>52613177
I didn't listen to /g/ this is first time i've been here in a while, came to my own conclusions on what I prefer to use.
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>>52613132
I agree but I don't use resource intensive DEs anyway because they're just not as fast, no matter how good your PC is.
>>52613162
This
>>52613177
What features does GNOME have that others don't?
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>>52613498
>because they're just not as fast, no matter how good your PC is.
But that's not true. I use KDE and compared to XFCE it's actually faster
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>>52613520
>KDE is faster than Xfce
Werks for you I guess. I tried both and Xfce is a lot faster than KDE is for me. KDE is still way better than GNOME though (not because it's less resource intensive but because it's actually not garbage).
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>>52612938
>My mom's son
kek. everytime
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>>52613520
Yeah KDE is pretty good these days though, I remember comparing it to Gnome3 in terms of ram usage etc last year and KDE actually came out on top, it was using less ram than Gnome3 on a clean boot but it was pretty close.
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From what I could try:
KDE > XFCE > Unity (without amazonshit) > LXDE > MATE > Gnome3 > Cinnamon

I'm yet to give Trinity or Lumina a shot, anybody have experience with those?
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>>52612006
>muh unusable tools with 30 lines of code for epic 1337 haxxoring
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I still am bouncing between cinnamon and plasma.
Configuring plasma is actually a true royal pain but it's actually the best featured DE
Cinnamon on the other hand is the true successor to Gnome.
Gnome 3 was a mistake
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>>52613845
I would definetely use KDE Plasma. I've tried out Cinnamon, it's not nearly as bad as GNOME 3 but I don't really like it. What exactly is the point of Cinnamon? It doesn't have any features that other DEs don't have.
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>>52613894
Replacement for GNOME 3 with literally no timesink configuration period. Shit just looks and feels nice by default.
While GNOME cucklods will spend eternity installing firecucks and installing basic plugins via the web browser
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Is there any truly comfy DE?

I've tried the following, in order of best to shittest:

MATE
Gnome 3 (with plugins)
XFCE
Cinnamon
Plasma

I don't even understand how plasma is so shit, It's like the developers never take stock, they just keep developing shitware ontop of everything, bloat: the DE.

What should I install now? I get sick of them eventually, I want something that is truly comfortable.
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>>52615254
Openbox
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>>52611097
Works just fine in Mint you stupid frogposter.
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>>52615254
what do you want?
I agree that plasma 5 is not ready yet, but I can't see from your list what you dream scenario would be
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>>52615254
Blackbox. It is cosy af. Better than openbox
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LoonX Mint is garbage. It was ahead of other distros some years ago, though. It actually worked out of the box.
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>>52611097
>falling for the DE meme
All you need is a window manager and dmenu

THATS IT

Everything else is literally unnecessary bloat
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>>52615470
is there a way to make dmenu good?
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>>52615470
>>52615506
correction...
Is there a way to bloat the fuck out of dmenu so it is useable?
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>>52615517
What's not usable about it? You type in the program you want to launch, it shows you a list of matching keywords and then you launch it.

I have a dmenu2 installed, but I forget what the difference between it and dmenu is
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>>52616935
how do you manage apps running in background with a tray icon such as skype
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>>52615254
Xfce is the only thing I use anymore
hopefully they can just remake it in GTK3 so it can be used on wayland
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>>52611097
HAhahaha fucking plebs
>The current year
>not running KDE 4
fucking noobs why do you even bother pacman -Sying
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>>52617008
forgot pic
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>>52617008
What does 4 offer over 5
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>>52617042
being more outdated and shittier
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>>52617042
It just werks and it just werks, it werks it'sp perfect and it just werks
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>>52617087
It werks until it crashes randomly, same with 5
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Maybe you shouldn't use arch if you don't want half the shit to be broken. Myself, I'm using lubuntu and I've had exactly zero problems with cinnamon.
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>>52611097
Cinnamon just does not like playing nicely with arch based systems it's still a great DE I switched to fedora after getting frustrated at how much was broken on manjaro. For me having a properly integrated DE I enjoy using is more important than the distro.
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>>52617096
How about you go werk yourself you werking werk, i've been using it for a year and it has never crashed
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>not using mwm
Dumb frogposter
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>>52617110
What the heck? Cinnamon is my DE of choice and it works fine. Maybe it was a Manjaro issue. (Even if based on Arch it has its differences.)
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>>52613177
Gnome 2 was the last good gnome. Gnome 3 is crap.
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I like KDE Plasma 5 (I run Arch). It all just werks.
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>>52612266
this desu senpai
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>>52617459
Too bad it was fucked up by mint devs
- themes replaced with shitty mint ones
- every application renamed to some spanish shit no one can remember
- some other fuckups ("patches" for mint specific shit no one actually wants to use)
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>>52611097
i have been using cinnamon in my arch install for three or so weeks now. it's a'ight.

i was trying to give a chance to budgie but god dammit they fucked the shit up with the last update and the introduction of "raven" the retarded side panel for notifications and shit.

if i could have something like the menu from budgie on an openbox environment, i would be so happy.
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>>52617490
>>52612266
>two panels
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>>52612277
/thread
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Anyone else use bspwm + sxhkd?
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>>52617198
I did briefly try it on arch prior to using Manjaro but I didn't really use it long enough to configure everything.

There aren't huge problems just enough little things to be annoying like system tray icons not working for most programs qbittorrent, hexchat ect. I'll probably go back and try again once the next version comes out as I did think it looked nice.
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>>52612891
>I already switched to gnome and remove all traces of your shit tier resource hog DE
It's funny because Cinnamon is literally a fork of GNOME.
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>>52613177
>gnome3
>full featured
topkek
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>>52615447
>implying it doesn't work out of the box now
>implying other distros have any advantages over mint
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>>52617031
Your panel looks like AIDS.

How do you even ruin KDE like that?
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>>52617184
>not using an adblocker
Dumb animeposter
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I fucking love Cinnamon
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Xfce mustard rice tbhfam
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>>52611097
Cinnamon is the best DE to me. My main problem with Gnome 3 is that the title/window bars are too tall and take up too much space. Cinnamon's title bars are very skinny.
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>>52618487
Yes, of GNOME2.
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>>52618487
MATE is a fork of Gnome 2 dummy. Cinnamon is a fork of Gnome 3.
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>>52619607
see
>>52619663
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>>52619607
Uh, no.
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>>52612938
>My mom's son
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>>52611097
Gnome on Arch is exceptionally smooth on my hardware.The only other thing I'd use is i3.Everything else is a shit.I don't want it to be that way, but it is.
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>>52617110
>at how much was broken on manjaro.
Fucking this.Installed Manjaro with i3,CPU usage pegged at 89% and constant seizures.How the hell do you screw up i3 to this level?
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>>52618713
You can shrink dem title bars with a simple terminal command my friend.
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Cinnamon > your shit.
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>>52616983
>using skype

But if you must, stalonetray is a good minimal tray manager
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KDE > Cinnamon > 50 ft pile of shit > Gnome 3
Too bad your PC is a literal toaster
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>>52611097

>2016
>using gnome 3 fork

Kill yourself!
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>>52611097
This is why I use Windows 8.1 and suck Bill Gates' cock and inject my self with polio vaccines everyday. Loonix is anti-science /cuckold/.
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Gnome 3 and i3, everything else is shit
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>Shit tier DE.
So every DE.
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>>52620104

I guess that's a list ordered by most shit, because GayDE doesn't belong at the top of anything.
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>>52620590
subscribed
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>>52620632
How does it feel to be this poor?
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>>52620469
I guess that's why Mint has been the most popular desktop distro for the past few years. Because Cinnamon 'sucks'.

Uh-huh, honey.
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>>52611097
Gnome is pretty fat and bloated. You need a decent screen for it.

Resolutionlets need not apply.
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Alright guys, whats even some good desktop environment to use right now? It has to look good OOTB and be bullshit-free.

- Gnome3 would be great, but I hate the hueg window titles, the useless title bar, the "click-instead-of-hovering" menus in gtk3 and how bad gtk2 applications integrate.
- I like KDE less, its ugly, bloated and lacks any form of design principles, its basically Windows tier.
- XFCE or LXDE just look dated and won't have Wayland support
- I don't want to use a tiling WM.

Whats left? Unity is ok but it only really supports Ubuntu. What about that ElementaryOS, LXQT or that SolusOS DE?
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>>52620725
>look good OOTB and be bullshit-free.
Cinnamon
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Cinnamon is the only DE I'd consider using if I had to give up dwm
it's also the best looking one out of all the big DEs. The new KDE comes in second.
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>>52620797
I take that back regarding Plasma 5
it has the potential to look really good, but, well

It reminds me of someone going through puberty
it's GOING to look good, and it's getting there, but it still looks awkward and stuck inbetween two paradigms
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>>52611097
gnome 3 has had a bug open since 2011 for it randomly freezing and locking up for nvidia users
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>>52620868
>>52620948
for example, why are the clock and toolbar fonts two different sizes, possibly even two different fonts?

Why are some icons flat and others detailed? Why are some smaller/larger/wider/thinner than others?

Why is the titlebar a gray/teal and the toolbar white?

Why are the icons in the upper left of
>>52620948
blue, but the icons in the start menu gray?

it's just inconsistent and needs time to mature
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>>52612006
>muh sysvinit
>muh minimalism
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>>52617184
>muh 80's wm
ASS DEAD DICKS
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>>52620781
This. Just change the wallpaper if you're using Mint.
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>>52620781
>doesn't have Wayland support
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>>52620868
>it's GOING to look good, and it's getting there, but it still looks awkward and stuck inbetween two paradigms
Welcome to KDE.
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>>52621114
>for example, why are the clock and toolbar fonts two different sizes, possibly even two different fonts?
to make the clock more distinct.

>Why are some icons flat and others detailed? Why are some smaller/larger/wider/thinner than others?
Incompetency of KDE devs/artist, but I think it could be the matter of a more early version. Plasma 5 is still kind of fresh.

>Why is the titlebar a gray/teal and the toolbar white?
There's nothing wrong with that

>blue, but the icons in the start menu gray?
What? Folder icons for breeze theme are blue, category icons are gray.
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>mint
>cinnamon
why are linuxfags so obsessed with sweet foods? Is it because you're required to be a 200lb neckbeard to use linux?
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>>52620868
>>52621298
>it's GOING to look good, and it's getting there, but it still looks awkward and stuck inbetween two paradigms
KDE has been perpetually in that state since before Plasma 5.
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>>52621337
>mint
>cinnamon
>sweet
Fucking american who can't think in spices
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>>52621372
>scotch mints aren't sweet
>cinnamon isn't sweet
fucking euro who can't even taste food properly
[spoiler]I'm actually canadian DUDE WEED LMAO[/spoiler]
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>>52621337
Mint and cinnamon have pretty much zero calories, anon.

They're also God Tier spices.
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>>52621415
>he doesn't tasted salad foods with mint or cinnamon
t. anglo pro.
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I have it on antergos. It just werks for me man
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>>52621337
Arch Linux is named after the two arches of McDonalds.

The More You Know(tm).
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>>52613132
>all these people thinking only the amount of ram matters
>what is bandwidth consumption
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>>52621261
>Wayland in 2016
Call me after 10 years
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>>52621533
>using the best operating system
>with the worst window/graphic system ever invented
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>>52621503
Huh? Is this about updates?
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>decide to try out Cinnamon on gentoo
>already have dwm set up how I like
>sudo emerge -a gnome-extra/cinnamon
>see this
noooooooooooooooooope
there's still another half a page of deps that couldn't fit on the screen
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>>52611097
Should have used i3
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>>52611820
>I can't read an installation guide
>I love cuckoldry and shitty package managers
>I add repos when ever I want to install new software
>my distro comes with bloat and a shit DE
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>>52622386
>bloat
Daily reminder: Faggots who have more than 256GB storage and still complain about bloat are literally NEET.
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>I like customisability, ease of use, and flexibility, and I don't mind a heavyweight DE as long as I get lots of features
KDE Plasma

>I like customisability and ease of use, but I want it to consume fewer resources
Xfce

>I want a desktop that uses tiny amounts of resources and Just Works™
LXQt/LXDE

>I want others to decide what my desktop is like
GNOME

>I want to never have to touch my mouse
any tiling WM

>literally the only thing I care about is resource usage
dwm
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>>52622295
>not trying DEs in a VM first
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>>52622397
Why the fuck would anyone want bloat on their on there system? You can't even defend that you sick bastard.
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>>52615506
dmenu_extended
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>>52620697
Just got a call from Mr. Shuttleworth

He said to stop with the bullshit lies.
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>>52622401
>KDE
>Lightweight
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>52622403
I don't need to try it, I already use Cinnamon on my desktop where I don't give a fuck

but holy shit all those dependencies, forget about a small profile installation. I just wanted to see what it'd be like to run it on here but forget that
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>>52620948
If you have to install a work around to bring up the main menu with the windows key, you fucking blew it.
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>>52622426
Define bloat faggot
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>>52622386
>My system comes with nothing but systemd
Sublime KEK
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>>52613177
Gnome 3 is literally the one DE that has no features at all.
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>>52622501
That's the whole point of arch dummy

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux#Principles
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>>52612277
>i3
>DE
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>>52612277
baby's first tiling wm
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>>52622448
are you literally incapable of reading
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