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>Microsoft is finally making IP addresses hidden by default on Skype. Reports surfaced around four years ago noting that a flaw in Skype allowed malicious users to obtain IP addresses through the service. While Microsoft recently introduced the ability to hide your IP address in Skype, this is now being made default with the latest update released today.

>It's an important change that will mostly affect gamers and streamers. Gamers often struggle to prevent distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks because rivals can simply look up their Skype ID and use a number of resolver services to find an IP address and overwhelm it with traffic, knocking someone offline.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/22/10813826/skype-hide-ip-address-default-setting

TOX GOT BTFO. IS TOX EVEN TRYING?

NO MESSENGER SHOULD BE CALLED "PRIVATE" OR "SECURE" IF IT LEAKS YOUR IP ADDRESS TO PEOPLE YOU CHAT WITH.

BRAVO SKYPE. 4CHAN DOESN'T LEAK YOUR IP TO OTHER USERS, SO WHY DOES TOX STILL DO IT?
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>>52606005
>implying that works
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>>52605949
Didn't they say that before? How long did it last?
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>>52605949
Know the difference between anonymity and security fuckwad.
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>>52606655
You can't be completely secure without being anonymous.
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the NSA is now on suicide watch. we can all go back on skype now, they aint tracking anybody your ip anymore. cheers bill g.
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>>52607676
kek
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>>52605949

Skype is a PRISM provider.

Comprendo?
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eh. i still prefer discord
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>>52607721
Comprendo means "I understand"

Comprende means "Do you understand?"
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>>52607676
Skype has NSA backdoors so all of you going back to Skype is part of their plans
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at least tox is not botnet
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To hide your IP, doesn't that require going through Microsoft's servers first?
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>>52607962
Yes it does. Tox is pure P2P+DHT+NAT punching so the swarm sort of needs to know where you are.
>m-muh IP hiding
Literally only a problem if you're talking with people you don't trust. Also you can run it over Tor if you're a crazy fuck and can tolerate latency.
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>>52606804
Like you are now? Pff
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>>52608156
Anonymous to other users, yes. Would you post on 4chan if your IP showed up on every post you make?
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>>52607944
Tox devs aka 4chan creeps could harvest all of the images you send over Tox and you wouldn't know it because you can't read code and nobody gives a fuck about it.
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It's the anti-tox shilling/propaganda/troll once again? You guys never get tired, I'll give you that
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>>52610266
Tox is shit. deal with it.
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>>52606804
>You can't be completely secure without being anonymous.
If you're using a device connected to the Internet, you're never completely secure. If you allow others to access anything of yours that isn't connected to the internet, you're not completely secure. If you interact with anything, you're not completely secure.
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>>52605949

its only hidden until you add them to your friends list

it literally words it that way, which means once you add them they see your IP

so literally no different than Tox
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>>52605949
Back to your fucking pig pen bill.

HISSS

FUCK OFF MICROSHILL
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>>52611714
Skype doesn't let friends see your IP.

Tox does.
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>>52611745
Shut up, weeb
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>>52612070
Shut up microshill.
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>>52606024
It does newfag
>inb4 I'm only pretending to be retarded
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>>52605949
>oh yes I love that my data passes through microshit servers where they can analyze everything you say
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>>52612601
It does not
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>>52605949
Do gamers actually ddos others?
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>>52612601
You have to put it in the name slot
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>>52612920
Yes
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>>52612920
can confirm, been ddos'd a fuckload. garrys mod used to have an especially angry/angsty skiddy community
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>>52612297
Not him but if you're a weeb you need to fuck off
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>>52605949

>yfw gayming got microsoft to care about privacy
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>>52612971
What does your ISP do when that happens?
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>>52611819
So all Skype traffic is routed trough a central server?
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>>52606804
You can't be completely secure, period
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>>52613471
Yes, you can
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>>52613273
Nothing, but usually they get tired of ddosing u after a while
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>>52610266
Yeah, I noticed that too.

>>52612920
Happens more often than people think.
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>>52608609
no, but tox doesn't show your IP - if someone could wireshark my IP through 4chan I'd still use it
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>>52612920
happened to me so often that I bought a vpn, usually only happens if you're good at games or a shithead
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>i'd rather exchange everything a program can juice out of my computer with Microsoft than exchange IPs with the person i want to talk to.

Christ, is it the new Memesoft India shill squad?
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>>52612932
Email slot, actually.
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>>52605949
>mfw Skype MUST restart to update
>mfw Skype doesn't fit the user interface of other Windows 10 apps
>mfw Skype is bloated as fuck still and spams ads
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>>52606024
>>52612767
It's real, it's just no longer visible. Removing public sage was one of the dumbest decisions ever.
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>>52616536
Is there even a use for the now options field other than saging anymore?
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>>52616558
nonoko
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How does TOX Leak IP's?
This i have heard of it.
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>>52618825
is a meme, tox is p2p.
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>>52605949
>Be me
>Toxing with Snowden
>We know each other's IPs but that's okay because we're both behind 7 proxies
>NSA doesn't know shit

>Be me
>Skyping with Snowden
>We don't know each other's IPs
>NSA detects red flags in Skype logs
>Get arrested for treason
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>>52607721
Proof?
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>>52619003
Talking with snowen is not treason, numbnuts
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>>52605949
Kek Linux version didn't get updated
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Or you could just use Tox over Tor and not worry about a thing.

Tox isn't anonymous by default because of latency concerns with audio/video, but you can simply point Tox to your local Tor proxy if you want to.
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ye m8s we get ya skype n microsoft is bad innit but we hav friends n family the sort ya kno so ye we all gotta use skype m8
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>>52606804
Security pertains to contents, anonymity pertains to identities. They're completely separate concepts.

Tox is secure but not anonymous. Tor over HTTP is anonymous but not secure.
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Folks if you want hi quality audio video streaming over internet then ip to ip via udp is the only way to go. Microsoft routes all skype traffic through its servers not for security but for recording and analysis. This adds lag but also had the upshot of you receiving traffic from the server and not the skype client.
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>living in a third world shithole
>people deal over skype and don't get caught
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How do I get an IP address from skype?
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>>52607676
Just so you know, we can still track your ip, and if you try to go off the grid, you will get v&, so don't try it, also, we have backdoors in your shitty Linux distros, so don't even think that just because you're on some shitty distro your secure.
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how does omegle leak ip adresses im a newb please explain how i can do this some broad freaked me out
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>>52622326
google it
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>>52618825
>How does TOX Leak IP's?

Anybody can see your IP when you chat with them. Imagine every post on 4chan you make has your IP on it and it's pretty much the same thing. There is zero anonymity on Tox.
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>>52623599
4chan mods, the FBI and the NSA can see your IP when you post on 4chan. Same goes for when you use Skype. Personally I'd rather be able to control who sees my IP (e.g. contacts who I explicitly add) rather than some nameless, faceless government agents and random server owners.

Tox gives you the option to be fully anonymous if that's the sort of protection you desire. Skype and 4chan don't.
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>>52621120
>Or you could just use Tox over Tor and not worry about a thing.

I shouldn't have to use Tor to not have the person I'm speaking to know my IP address.
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>>52605949
>Skype uses meme arrows to quote
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>>52623690
>I shouldn't have to use tools designed to protect my identity if I want to protect my identity

kill yourself faggot. if tox had tor-like anonymity audio/video quality would be unusable.
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>>52623659
Tox isn't even proven to be secure. For all you know, there could be a 5 man team at the NSA plugging into the Tox DHT just to slurp up all the conversations you think are private because it's considered a high priority target because people, pedos, terrorists, criminals, drug lords, etc think they are guaranteed security when using it.

Why the fuck would I use something that isn't proven to be secure AND leaks my IP to anybody I chat with? Fuck that shit.
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>>52622283
your hard-earned reply
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>>52623754
>Tox isn't even proven to be secure.
You just described all software in existence.

>there could be a 5 man team at the NSA plugging into the Tox DHT just to slurp up all the conversations you think are private because
That's not how P2P works you dumb fuck. The DHT is only used for friend requests, and those ARE anonymous.
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>>52623754
>there could be a 5 man team at the NSA plugging into the Tox DHT just to slurp up all the conversations
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>>52605949
About damn time. I started using Telegram over this because I kept getting port-scanned by commies and sand-niggers. Glad Malwarebytes blocked them.
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>>52623754
>five man nsa team
I'm they have that automatized.
Also
>2016
>still believes that software can protect you from NSA
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>>52623795
>You just described all software in existence.

Signal is proven to be secure.
OTR is proven to be secure.
PGP is proven to be secure.

Tox is not proven to be anything but a /g/ NEET project that trusted people who ended up stealing money.
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>>52623925
The NSA can't break strong crypto. They aren't Gods with the ability to break maths. Besides, the harder we make their job the more resources they have to put into their operations, which means the less effective they are (especially in regards to low priority targets, e.g. innocent people).

>>52623932
Signal is centralized you twat. None of those are "proven" secure. Kill yourself NSA shill.
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>>52624007
>nothing is proven to be secure
>but the NSA can be thwarted with strong crypto

Time to take your meds, kiddo.
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>yfw there are actual shills on 4chan whose job it is to discredit Tox and encourage people to use centralized comms like Skype and Signal

>yfw it's almost been three years and they still haven't found anything wrong with the code itself
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>>52624147
Nice strawman faggot. Crypto algorithms can be mathematically proven secure; however the software that uses them cannot.
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>>52605949
So now that means that everything is going through Microsoft's servers?

Time to dump Skype.
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>>52624361
It always did
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Hidden from non-contacts but exposed to contacts. This is nothing to get excited about
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>>52627522
So it's the same as Tox, except Microsoft servers also see who you're talking to?
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>>52627522
Not contacts, either.
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>>52624148
nobody has audited tox
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In other words, default latency of Skype is going way up because some fucking retard gamers didn't understand what "P2P" means.
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>>52612920
I was ddossed for playing average in a tf2 pug. I wish I was kidding. Luckily I have a subnet of IP addresses so I can switch and pretend my internet's been knocked out and they get bored and stop.
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>>52607676
t. NSA
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>>52629469
ok
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>2 1/2 years later
>still using Skype
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>>52629085
arrange an audit, then
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>>52630561
you do it
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>>52605949
LOL STAHP"D RAEDIN AT SUBJECTZ
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>>52630633
I'm not the one who's concerned about tox's security.
You do it.
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Why should we use Tox instead of Skype if everyone is using Skype?
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>>52614182
Same. I use mobile most of the time anyways, I use PC site when I get home.
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