/flt/ - Friendly Linux Thread

>>52599068
It's too early anon.

OP here
Thinking about adding / changing some terminal application
borg backup seems pretty nifty and simple and fast:
https://github.com/borgbackup/borg

any other ideas for the terminal section? or whatever?

>>52599068
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXDPIorxX1A

>>52599102
its 290 post in there
20 posts before the end of the thread...
considering butthurt OP that makes this usually makes them occasionally at 250... its fine

>>52599106
how about you go kill yourself and fuck off back to reddit?

>>52599106
>terminal section
xfce4-terminal, it's got minimal dependencies iirc

I'm so happy that I found out about the -j option for zip.

Will I have any significant problems with pure AMD build? Lack of drivers for example?

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>>52599213
terminals themselves are on the right
I mean the section in the circle

>>52599256
no problems
but FPS difference between linux and windows in games will be bigger

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>>52599256
no, you need non-free microcode though. use the free amd drivers if youa re on 200 or 300 series. pic related, my fx 8350 and my sapphire r9 390.

>>52599324
any AAA games you play on linux?
or just testing and you dual boot for games?

>>52599529
>AAA
i am more into indie but witcher 2 runs fine. i dual-boot for games that are not compatible or are horrible ports though. (modding skyrim and witcher 3 mostly)

>>52599261
>zsh far superior to bash
how?

>>52599256
Make sure you pick a fully supported card.
Ok, there is no such thing, so ... get something that is well-supported enough.

Prepare your anus, because AMD will drop support both open-source, and proprietary wise, than a nigger drops his mixtape.

http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/

Performance will be shittier on Linux.
Power management sucks, both os/prop drivers.
Desktop performance will be PURE SHIT if you use an OpenGL desktop (Gnome3, >KDE4, anything 3D.)

Trust me, I used a 7870, and my goddamn MHD4500 iGPU (which is from the Core2Duo) runs circles around the AMD card. It can play games (AMD), with worse performance, that is. But the desktop is unusable.

>>52599068
There are users asking about how they can use Windows applications and keep a moderate level of performance.

A tutorial on GPU passthrough would be beneficial to those with adequate hardware.

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>>52599619
>history
remember that time you used ffmpeg few weeks back
well with bash you either grep whole history or go look in to the history file itself
with zsh you just write "ffmpeg" and then arrow up/down and it will go through all commands in your history that contain ffmpeg string
making it 1 second opperation to find that one command you used

>auto completion
tab autocomplete is on a whole new level, its actually smart and fixes wrong cases and is generally better to move around in terminal and navigate anywhere

those are two big ones, history and autocompletion
but custom commands and hotkeys are also easy to do

add this to your .zshrc
and whenever you perss ctrl+f you add sudo to the current line and your cursor stays where it was.

add_sudo (){
prefix="sudo"
BUFFER="$prefix $BUFFER"
CURSOR=$(($CURSOR + $#prefix + 1))
}
zle -N add_sudo
bindkey "^f" add_sudo

>>52599529
Your best shot is Xen virtualization, but not sure if AMD can do that.
(You need GPU passthrough.)

"Native" Linux games that you can get on Steam, and that got released recently, have shittier graphics, and lower performance. Phoronix, and some other site had some great articles on this. They compared the new AAA games on both platforms, and some options are just missing, some graphics effects are just not there.
Performance is lower too, again.

>>52599261
All those shitty terminals but no urxvt?

>>52599760
what did you expect? a flawless dx port to opengl with every kind of customization? if the game uses opengl by default it looks and behaves pretty much the same on both platform, if it doesn't it won't.

>>52599821
out of the box its kinda meh and for fixing it you need to actually go read documentation and edit config file
and what exactly is the result that makes it better than those other ones?
it used to be there though, if it counts for something, but then I found terminology to be strange and interesting
and replaced generic urxvt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p7iXtI5lUI

>>52599905
I never said that. I knew what Valve was doing, what they did.
How others ported their games.

The problem on the other hand is how they TRY to sell this shit to people.
"Look, here is Call of Doody 15 for leenugz!"

Meanwhile it's just a shit port.
tl;dr: I know most people use Linux/BSD for different reasons than only games, but it's still.. misleading.

>>52599821
>>52599619
>>52599261
Btw you guys ever used Fish?
It's fucking magical.

http://fishshell.com/

Real talk how often does Arch just randomly break?

I want to jump into Linux and I like the idea of a modular os thats on the cutting edge in terms of updates.

>>52600051
don't start with arch, there are other rolling release cutting edge distros you can try.

>>52600081
Like Gentoo Testing! :^)

>>52600051
I've been using Arch for about 6 months and so far nothing has just randomly broken. Several times I'VE broken something by messing with stuff, but hey that's how you learn

>>52600051
>I like the idea of a modular os
most distributions are based on binary packages, they're all modular

>>52600051
> and I like the idea of a modular os thats on the cutting edge in terms of updates.
Hahahaha, all these buzzwords in only one post.

Used Arch as a main system for a year and a half.
It broke .... like 10-12 times maybe, but only 3-4 rendered my system unbootable.

Again I was a time millionaire, I spent hours and days fixing shit.
I was the guy from that Arch picture people post.
And if you use Arch, it will be you next time.

>>52600097
more like debian testing, fedora or opensuse tumbleweed

>>52600051
arch for 1,5 year here
no breakage

>>52600051
Arch breaks all the time for even experienced users. Thats the point. It's a hobby OS for tinkering and playing around. You can make it do cool things (i.e. check out the desktop threads), but don't think that it doesn't break because thats a fundamental property of bleeding-edge operating systems. There's no such thing as stable + bleeding each. They are opposites.

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>>52600051
don't fall for the meme

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friendly reminder

>>52600159
How exactly did it break for you when you used it?
oh, right, its obvious from your rant that you have not use it

>>52600126
>>52600081
>>52600159
So what distro would you recommend for someone who just wants to stay on 1 distro for a very long time even after getting to know how to Linux

>>52600216
debian

>>52600216
*buntu, Mint, Fedora

>>52600216
Ubuntu LTS.
It works, updates don't fuck up things, it just works.

You can even mess around trying different flavors (Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu).
Hell, there is even Linux Mint, it's literally the same.

>>52600193
I used it for about a year before switching to Xubuntu on my desktop so I could have a stable workstation where I could get things done. In fact, I still use arch on my old thinkpad.

>>52600232
>>52600241
Alright, is there any key differences between these to narrow it down a bit?

>kpx
>trusted and secure

until your database is corrupted for no reason.

>>52599750
>ctrl f

Thats how I open firefox reeee

>>52600216
your plans are retarded

>>52600267
*buntu and mint are both based on Debian (one of the oldest GNU/Linux distros) so they are similar. They both use apt-get as their package manager. Fedora is based on Red Hat Linux which has a different package manager.

>>52600277
how the fuck do you search in firefox then
or anywhere else for that matter, you know ctrl+find

>>52600267
*buntu is debian +broken and easy
fedora is testing ground for RHEL and uses dnf instead of apt

>>52600267
*buntu LTS and mint are pretty much same shit with different logo, one is based on the other one.

Fedora is slightly different, nonfree policy being one thing (the only proprietary code allowed in Fedora is binary firmware).
Also different (superior in every regard) package manager.

>>52600320
>Fedora is based on Red Hat Linux
It's the other way around.
Fedora is the upstream version of RHEL.
RHEL 7 is Fedora 19 for example iirc

>>52600267
memebuntus will install their supplied DE.
Debian lets you install pretty much every major DE on the initial install, then you just pick whichever when you login first time.

>>52599750

how do I install zsh so it replaces bash

is there any possibility of this fucking up my shit (on a default bash install, haven't fucked with it at all)

>>52600379
>>52600345
>>52600320
Alright thanks bros Debian it is then

>>52600051

arch is a fucking meme os and we look down on it for a reason

fucking retarded to use it as your first distro, the only people you'll impress are fellow arch autists and they'll still find a way to look down their nose at you

jesus christ it's idiots like you who think "well gee I've never even ridden a bicycle before, so this 1000cc motorcycle with failing breaks sounds GREAT"

>>52600441
damn I thought this was /Friendly Linux Thread/ :^}

>>52600193
I used a lot Arch distros and usually something stopped functioning after system updates only, sometimes it would completely break or a lot of settings would resets to the defaults.

It seems you are okay as long as you never upgrade, you're probably supposed to build the system from zero and know all the update dependencies, literally autism the OS.

stick to any shitbuntu except ubuntu if you want to be productive, kubuntu looks really nice now.

>>52600471
don't you have some xorg.conf to fix? :^)

>>52600324
I never thought about that, I guess firefox ctrl f has higher priority, it doesn't open another instance unless I'm somewhere else. I probably have to change it to win + f :^)

>>52600159
>Arch breaks all the time for even experienced users.

That's true depending on what you have installed.

If you want Arch, and kinda want bleeding edge, then use Manjaro.

Manjaro holds back packages that would break a system and updates once a package is stable enough to upgrade.

>>52600324
>how the fuck do you search in firefox then
Click the hamburger menu, then click "find"

>>52600395
what distro?

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>>52600578
>hamburger menu

>>52599068
nth for why does slackware hate starting x?
Fuck this, I'm going back to Ubuntu.

>daytime /flt/

REEEEEEEEEEE STOP USING ARCH

FUCKING SHITTY APP GUY, FUCK

YOU'RE ALL FUCKING IDIOTS, HOLY SHIT

Distro stereotypes made in 2009 are still relevant in 2016.

I'm only using Linux because Windows sucks. I actually hate everything Linux and free software stand for.

>nighttime /flt/

hey, check out this shell command

wow, cool, here's a way to shorten that

did you know about this neat little option with that application?

here's my progress on this thing I'm doing

Hi Linuxers,

I hope we have some CLI guys browsing tonight rather than any Gooeys.

Anyway, can anyone tell me where I'm going wrong with this code

sudo for i in $(/var/local/osd1/current/*/*) ; do xfs_bmap -v $i ; done

Gives

-bash: syntax error near unexpected token 'do'

so its a loop for every item within a directory, which then is meant to do a bitmap of each item showing the physical location (sectors on disk) but I can't seem to get the loop right, even though its taken from someone's blog

>>52599068
I tried Vivaldi and thought it was shit. Has anything changed?

>>52600623
>not specifying timezones

>>52600665
depends when did you tried it
5 months ago or 2 weeks ago

>>52600665
still shit, OP is just a faggot, ignore him.

>>52600632
for i in $(/var/local/osd1/current/*/*) ; do sudo xfs_bmap -v $i ; done

sry; don't know how to have it in code style

>>52600665
The thing that made Opera great was presto.

Vivaldi and new Opera use Blink, they're both just glorified chromium skins.

>>52600683
about 2-3 weeks after launch

>>52600729
yeah, try again, loads of fixes and features
support for chrome extensions...
would still not switch 100% until getting out of beta but its far better than year ago

>>52600632
try using su

>>52600707
>have it in code style

      text  

just use {code} type code here {/code}
but replace the squiggly brackets with these []
>>52600707
Thanks buddy

>>52600775
Thanks, Ill give both a go

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>>52599068
Updated version right here

>>52600801

>>52600805
Yeah, use the code tag like he listed, I fucked up twice lol

>>52600707
This was the winner by the way, thanks very much

The Performance on Nomachine.

GTA V demo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxUKosCfbA

>>52600485
Using my current installation for about 1 year, updates and even diffrent hardware never broke the system.

>>52601010
can you run a NoMachine server on Windows btw?
How secure is it?

I have a remote server out in the wild, I use RDP with "EvilWatcher" and custom port + strong credentials.

>>52599068
>screenfetch
>system info
Ever heard of htop?

>>52601440
yeap, hard of it
thats why its right there first in the section
screenfetch provides different kind of info
whats de/wm used, icon and gtk themes...

>>52600632
a) there is no command like find or ls inside $()
b) bash globs it automatically:

sudo for i in /var/local/osd1/current/*/*; do xfs_bmap -v $i; done

Try this.

>>52600395
you dont just install zsh
you isntall oh-my-zsh or prezto as well
those things make it so that you dont need to do anymore things and you have zsh set to sane nice defaults
I prefer prezto

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>>52601688
>oh-my-zsh
This is a linux thread, apple shill.

>>52601371
>can you run a NoMachine server on Windows btw?
Yes.

>>52601776
Okok, installed it . via RDP.
let's see what happens.

hope I did not kill my server. :^)

>>52601688
my zsh install works fine without those bloated frameworks

>>52601688
>those things make it so that you dont need to do anymore things and you have zsh set to sane nice defaults

https://github.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh/blob/master/plugins/lol/lol.plugin.zsh

>>52599693
Anyone...

>>52601688
Just use prezto.

>>52601879
>Anyone here use saplinglearning for homework?

If it's Windows only, then your best bet is a VM or WINE+Firefox for Windows.

>>52601908
>I dont enjoy writing my own aliases and functions
>I can't configure my PS1 myself

>>52601919
So having a different useragent can't change anything?
Here's what it supports
http://www2.saplinglearning.com/help/system-requirements
I just don't really get why a web page doesn't work on some OSs.

>>52601978
Use a search engine to get a common user agent strings for windows (example: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/47.0.2526.106 Safari/537.36)

Go to about:config and add/edit the entry general.useragent.override with your string

I finally decided to seriously "Install Gentoo." Any advice? Any good tutorial or something you guys can offer? (I'm not very familiar with GNU/Linux, but I know the basics.)

>>52602064
You can get that here: useragentstring.com

>>52602096
>Any advice?
Download some movies to watch while compiling.

>>52602096
>(I'm not very familiar with GNU/Linux, but I know the basics.)
don't install gentoo/funtoo then unless you have a few weeks to learn.

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>>52602096
Did you try Arch?

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>>52602129

>>52602129
Nope. I tried Ubuntu, Kbuntu, Debian, Fedora and Mint.

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>>52602129
>2015
just go back to reddit and never ever come back.

>>52602096
Do you know how to compile a kernel and how to create filesystems and partitions?

>>52602147
sounds enough for gentoo and to appreciate the difference between binnary and source based distros
get some guitar or a book to read while you wait for compiling

then try arch

>>52602127
Takes that long?

>>52602156
Best Arch infographic ever.

>>52602129
Why would anyone use a toy OS?

>>52599068
Is it a bad thing that for the longest time I thought screenfetch was just a command to capture an image of the screen so I basically tried to hack together what it did in my .bashrc thinking that's what everybody else did?

>>52602064
Welp...color me confused.
I just booted into Xubuntu to try this, expecting to get the same problem I had with IceWeasel in Debian, which was the HW problems not loading.
But now they all load on Xubuntu with Firefox without me having to change anything despite the site saying that it doesn't support Linux.

Thanks anyways.

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>>52602247
Forgot pic of that

>>52602179
Yes.
A powerful i7 with SSD may be able to compile a full desktop (KDE/Gnome) within 4-6 hours.

But it's a long process for sure.

>>52602247
I like this guy, he made me smile.

>>52602216
Because toys are fun to play with?

>>52602247
>>52602263
name screenfetch might be confusing but honestly no.
a single google search would clear all confusion

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>>52602263
>>52602247

>>52601978
Change Firefox's user agent to WIndows and then install adobe-flash-player

>>52602309
huh, thought I am posting some laughing gif

>>52602247
Well, that's another way to do it.

>>52602247
Protip: before taking a screenshot: do this:

clear && screenfetch

>>52602313
Does Xubuntu come with flash player installed with firefox?
because >>52602249

just trying to figure out what happened here

>>52602247
>>52602345
clear && screenfetch -s for maximum rice

>>52602345
>>52602381
I'd thought of doing it that way but my colors.sh script (which renames the color codes to readable variables as seen in the pic) spits out a ton of output. I used reset instead of clear because I didn't want to see the massive amount of output in the scrollbar. Obviously I'm a noob, so how do I redirect that output in colors.sh to null?

>>52602352
>Does Xubuntu come with flash player installed with firefox?
No, you have to enable the Universe Repository first

>>52602381
>&&
Use ; instead,

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fierfox on arch is complaining about flash on sites
is this normal or do I have to update something or put some other solution forward?
system is updated

>>52602547
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/187145/whats-the-difference-between-semicolon-and-double-ampersand

>>52602609
not him, but have you ever had the "clear" bash builtin fail on you anon?

>>52599068
Anons, how would i go about installing Debian? I have Mint right now but i am torn between Debian or Ubuntu seeing as they are the most supported

Complete Linux noob.
Running a fresh install of Linux Mint 17.3
Trying to mount an external hard drive.
Claims it's unable to mount.

What do?

>>52599068
trying to update software on antergos and get this error

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
:: Retrieving packages ...
 confuse-2.8-1-i686                                   34.7 KiB  1448K/s 00:00 [############################################] 100%
(42/42) checking keys in keyring                                              [############################################] 100%
(42/42) checking package integrity                                            [############################################] 100%
error: confuse: signature from "Thorsten Töpper <[email protected]>" is unknown trust
:: File /var/cache/pacman/pkg/confuse-2.8-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz is corrupted (invalid or corrupted package (PGP signature)).

what do I do?

>>52602603
googled after asking
I needed to delete pluginreg.dat and restart firefox

>>52602647
>Claims it's unable to mount.

What's the error?

>>52602670
Using su

 pacman-key --init; pacman-key --populate archlinux antergos 

>>52602670
had a similar error today on arch; did the following

 sudo rm -rf /etc/pacman.d/gnupg/*
sudo pacman-key --init
sudo pacman-key --populate archlinux 

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I've been dicking around the dolphin-emulator, but can't seem to get the wiimote to work. I followed the building instructions and added the extra dependencies since one of them explicitly stated that It was needed for the wiimote. I have Bluez installed and am running kernel 4.3 on Debian. The bluetooth adapter connected to the wiimote, but it just doesn't work on dolphin-emu. It's the only controller that's left out, the 360, GC, and PS3 controllers all work.

>>52602631
With some distros, yes, sometimes, instead of clearing the screen, it just scrolls down 2 lines or so, and leaves some weird characters before it.

>>52602787
If clear actually fails, why would you want the screenfetch to continue?

>>52602488
Not sure what caused sapling to just werk on it then.

>>52599068
Go back to reddit, /u/DoTheEvolution, you have no place here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/3ya67j/install_arch_infographic/

>>52602841
Fair point.

How do i install Lemonbar on debian?

>>52602722
I figured it out.
Apparently Linux does not like exFAT.

Just going to reformat into a different filetype,

>>52602866
No 4chan thread is complete without someone telling someone to go back to reddit.

>>52602860
>Not sure what caused sapling to just werk on it then.

Was it flash-player, the user-agent?

FWIW, they say that the don't officially support Linux, but they don't say that it won't work.

>>52602886
>exFAT
Linux supports exFAT, you never copy and pasted the error for us bro

>>52602866
REKT: https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/3ya67j/install_arch_infographic/cyc39cm

>>52602670
this will fix it
just did it

pacman-key --refresh-keys

all you had to do was google fucking error

>>52602959
I already reformatted the drive and it's mounting properly now.
Now that I can get the work I need done out of the way, I'll look into why it wasn't mounting earlier at another time.

I probably didn't have proper drivers installed or something small.

>>52603000
>all you had to do was google fucking error
That's what every "power-user" is does :^)

>>52602886
>Apparently Linux does not like exFAT.
It does, you just probably needed to install the correct package/utils for it

>>52603021
>I probably didn't have proper drivers installed or something small.

What did you format is to? If it's NTFS, you'll need the ntfs-3g package

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OP here
So no one got any idea for terminal based stuff?

I don't seem to have an xresources file.
What's a default xresources file supposed to look like?

Where would the file go? I know one needs to be placed in home and etc, but where?

>>52603109
ncmpcpp (featureful ncurses based MPD client inspired by ncmpc)
soundcloud2000 (soundcloud cli) https://github.com/grobie/soundcloud2000

SCDL (SoundCloud Downloader with tagging support) https://github.com/flyingrub/scdl

So back when I used Windows, I used iTunes as a music library to organize music and stuff. Any good equivalent for Linux? I don't like Rhythmbox much.

>>52603593
>So back when I used Windows, I used iTunes as a music library to organize music and stuff. Any good equivalent for Linux? I don't like Rhythmbox much.

I very much recommend Clementine

>>52599068
Anything that can compare to premiere pro/after effects on Linux?

Not trying to do anything professional of course but usually the more professional the program the better it is at getting the thing I want.

>>52599068
> editing out the via 9gag.com

We all know where this shit came from. Maybe you should go back there.

>>52599750
would you mind sharing your zsh theme? looks alright

>>52603702
not really
https://opensource.com/life/15/1/current-state-linux-video-editing

openshot v2 has high hopes
as well as Pititvi once its get stable
for now its just blenders build in editor it seems

>>52603741
its the default in prezto

>>52602096
> Learn to configure a kernel
> familiarize yourself with the lspci -k command and what the output means
> Be prepared for unexpected issues
> use the hardened profile
> if you use the selinux profile and want systemd you have to adjust a bunch of built-in USE flags
> Learn to use USE flags
> Learn what the stuff in make.conf means
> learn to install a DE and make it boot into it rather than a tty shell
> know that you need to install pretty much everything yourself; this is the advantage, as you will only have what you want on your system
> encrypt your drive, you'll need a 250 MB unencrypted boot parition though.

http://sharpencryptedpig.noblogs.org/post/2014/05/29/how-to-install-gentoo-hardened-with-encrypted-root-and-swapexpress-procedure/
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Sakaki%27s_EFI_Install_Guide
I roughly combined those guides with the official AMD64 handbook.

Good luck, my friend.

>>52602179
Not really, just the installation takes a while.

Once you're all set up it's smooth sailing; shit like browsers take like half an hour though.

>>52603926
One more thing: make sure you set up a seperate /home partition.

It's trivial to add one; just make a 50 GB root LVM and then I think the command is

lvcreate --extents 99%FREE --name home (name of volume group)

theres any way to speed up Cinnamon bootup, it takes 10-12 seconds to show the desktop on my x220.
or maybe its the HDD?

>>52603926
Thanks, I bookmarked those links for later reading.

Hi guys,

I want to search my entire Linux filesystem to find the contents of a file.

For instance, if I issue a command such as ceph mon dump, it returns content which I am looking for. However, rather than issuing the command on each occasion, (or > to a file), I want to locate the primary source for where the command fetches the data.

The only way to do this, is to take the contents of the command, and search the entire file system

Therefore, if I do

grep -r "a string to match the output of a command" / 

I think it pretty much lists every single file system in the whole file system instead. Now I need to be searching in Root because I don't know where it possibly could be.

Any ideas?

>>52604131
You can't stop the NSA

how the heck do you install linux on debian?

>>52604195
>linux
oop
that should say seamonkey

>>52604195
>linux
apt install linux

>>52604181
YOU can't. I can, because they don't give a shit about me. I don't live in the US.

>>52604181
You can't but you can definitely cut down on what they get from you by a sizeable amount.

You should encrypt everything that can be encrypted and always use the most secure option possible without out and out breaking your system.

>>52604223
apt-get*

>>52604220
sudo apt-get install seamonkey.

>>52604261
no package

I dont know if this is the right way to put it, but is there a tier list? I was on ubuntu and mint for a while and liked them. I tried Arch and it just fuckign overwhelmed me. I'd like to try something else out though but am not sure what I should look at proceeding forward

>>52604228
>>52604238

You do realize that the NSA can write malware into the firmware, the level below the OS, below drivers, has higher "privilege" than Ring0, and you'd never know.

WireShark won't help if the OS spoofs network traffic.

>>52604246
No, I meant "apt" so you can see the installation progress bar :^)

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>>52602129
>archlinuxfr
Too hard to run $makepkg -sri right, faggot?

>>52604301
Well, I'm not hiding CP, so whatever. And I think you're just being too paranoid.

>>52604155
try strace

I'm trying to start my openvpn server and I keep getting

process started and then immediately exited: ['Sun Jan 24 19:13:18 2016 ERROR: Cannot open TUN/TAP dev /dev/net/tun: Operation not permitted (errno=1)']
service failed to start or returned error status

Is there any way to get this to work?

>>52604575

sudo !!

>>52599068
Plank is better then cario dock.

It is a port of docky from mono to vala.

>>52604608
Well openvpn has this GUI interface and I don't know what commands they're running to make it work. This is what I got from google

>sudo /etc/init.d/openvpn restart
sudo: /etc/init.d/openvpn: command not found

>sudo /etc/init.d/openvpnas restart
[ ok ] Restarting openvpnas: openvpnas.
But server status still displays as off in the GUI and trying to connect results in 'server disconnected' message.

>sudo service openvpn restart
openvpn: unrecognized service

>>52604608
Ah never mind, I got it working by spamming PPP and TUN/TAP switches

>>52604635
why is it better?

>>52604366
oh boy, you're really making him mad.

You should know that yaourt makes retrieving AND searching for things in the AUR much faster, right?

I'm an idiot because I don't know what to do when xorg crashes on Arch and I just re-install the entire OS.
After 3 reinstalls I think I need a switch.
Is Elementary OS ok or is it bait for OSX users to turn over? Considering between it, lubuntu and deb.
Sorry for bad english, it's late.

Reposting from yesterday because no one had any answers.

Why is Nvidia such a piece of shit. So I installed Arch on my main PC finally, using it happily on my laptop.

Anyway here's the situation. Before installing nvidia drivers, all 3 monitors are working - mirrored - in the TTY before I login which is set to kick off X. After installing the nvidia drivers all the monitors went dead after booting. Great. Anyway, after some research I figured out I had to edit grub with 'nomodeset' inside GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT. So I do that and reboot and tada, now a single monitor is working in the TTY. Well I guess I can live with that, it's really annoying because it's my worst and smallest monitor and I generally have it turned off so if someone knows how to fix this please tell me.

Finally I boot into i3 -and fix positioning etc with xrandr- where I encounter a small but irritating problem. It seems my monitors identify incorrectly, while I would call them monitors 1 2 and 3, they call themselves 3 2 and 1. This fucks up the start workspaces putting 3 on monitor #1 etc. Now again, I CAN work around this, reorder my config to suit etc. But this is kind of dumb and annoying and there MUST be a way to simply tell the system which monitor is which. Possibly connected to the original issue where monitors 1 and 2 -or 3 and 2 according to linux- don't work in the TTY.

>>52605282
xubuntu

>>52605190
cairo-dock hasn't been updated since 2014, it is lighter weight, modular(so you can create your own dock while using the same backend code in libplank).

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>>52605335
>it is lighter weight
maybe, but customizability is uncomporable if I remember correctly

but whatever I see no reason why not having it there, will give it try again and maybe put it on the first position

>>52605476
O_O so they are still updating it, just not releasing new versions. http://glx-dock.org/ still has 3.4.0 as the latest stable which came out Oct 2014.

>>52605476
Just looked at those commits. Just minor things no real work

https://github.com/Cairo-Dock/cairo-dock-core/commits/master

compat fixes, language translations, added a readme. Same boat as empathy which is being removed from ubuntu for being dead.

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>>52605558
well if nothing is broken... just that theres some activity to know its not abandoned

I am trying out plank here, I think it will only get the second place, but yeah it should be there as its comfy and simple and it always nice knowing shit is not bothering the system too much

>>52600818
>updated you're kidding me ?
>>52599068
OP after all those years you still keep posting this garbage ? telling people to use google, reddit and codeacademy ?

I guess retards will never change.

Reminder to everyone that OP picture is shit and that you shouldn't rely on the software he recommend. Most of thel are shit.

How do I prevent my computer from sleeping? I'm using Debian 8 with gnome, I disabled automatic suspend on the gnome power settings, but my computer goes to sleep once the monitors turn off and the screen saver kicks in, I can't find any other settings related to that behavior. Can I set it through the command line or something?

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>>52605821
choose single software there and explain why its shit and what is the better alternative not present on the pic and why.

>>52605238
Surely he was talking about compiling yaourt manually but you are that retarded. Also, yoaurt is not the only AUR helper out there and OP is giving the wrong idea.

>>52605821
You do realise the OP image in these threads is always meme shit right.

How do I stop certain programs from being removed with --depclean in gentoo?

>>52605887
Vivaldi
Complete garbage compared to chromium

>>52605913
>I haven't used said program for more than five minutes and still can't tell you why it's worse than x but take my word for it

>>52599068
>>Resources:
>/r/unixporn
>/r/linux4noobs
>/r/linuxquestions
Fuck you, reddit.

>>52605933
>Implying I haven't
Seriously, stop forcing your memes. People do NOT want you here. It has been made quite apparent but you are shameless

>>52605960
and yet you've given no reasons, just said x is trash, so fuck off

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>>52605913
chromium is on the picture
and you did not explain anything
you stated your opinion that its garbage

try again
but for now I just declare:
YOU CANT NAME A SINGLE APPLICATION FROM THE PICTURE THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY ARGUE AGAINST

X] Told
[X] TOLDASAURUS REX
[X] No country for told men
[X] ToldSpice
[X] Tic-Tac-Told

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>>52605969
>Shitty apps guy telling others to fuck off

>>52606000
>I'll argue about anything but won't give you any legit reasons why x is trash
once again fuck off

>>52605999
Why do you recommend sublime text over geany or kate?

>>52606090
>kate
>requires kde installed or pulls in half of kde in dependencies

>geany
I thought mono was the /g/ standard?

>>52606158
Yes, KDE users would not want to install geany either. That's why I mentioned kate. Any other reasons?
>/g/ standard
Vivaldi is not the /g/ standard, whether you believe or not, it's upto you. Geany is fast, efficient, free general purpose text editor for those who do not want to memorize emacs keybindings

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>>52606090
out of the box more feature rich
3000 plugins in incredibly easy to use plugin system
https://packagecontrol.io/stats

ability to open any system config file anywhere whenever, and on save elevate to root, no need to re-lunch editor with sudo

fast as hell as well
can you name a single functionality that those editors have that sublime lack?
cause I could start with multicursor right away if it comes other way around

large community enables much easier adoption with loads of informations, guides and tips

>>52606222
>3000 plugins
So why do you suggest Vivaldi with those shit extension library you shameless cunt?

Why should I use zsh over bash? I've been using linux for a while (10 years?) and I've never bothered looking into alternative shells.

>>52606222
>large community
If that's your excuse you should not be using Linux in the first place

>>52606245
vivaldi uses chromes extensions
and vivaldi is there because we dont have anytthing else
we have chrome and firefox
and loads of chrome clones, and out of chrome clones vivaldi is the most interesting
seems it aims at more tech savvy users and it tries to go customizability way of old opera

>>52606257
read here>>52599750

>motherfucking captchas are all fucking street names damn fucking cunts all around

>>52606222
Why sublime text over Visual Studio Code?

VSCode is now FOSS.

>>52606295
>out of chrome clones vivaldi is the most interesting
Seems like a personal opinion to me, mind fucking off now?

>>52605859
can someone try to help me with this question?
i want to synchronize my BTC wallet overnight and the damn thing keeps shitting its pants.

>>52606328
because its nowhere near sublime at this moment
atom might me nearing it, community is really pushing it fast
and because both atom and VSC and Brackets are actually sublime clones, going for the same feel
problem is that they are build on chromium and use javascript with node.js / io.js for whole functionality

this solves easily their crossplatform needs and they get large community for plugin development, but it also cause slow startup and general resource hungry stuff and inability to deal with huge files.. plus overall madness of making editor out of browser with javascript JESUS

they are rather young at tihs time and are hot in development
I feel Atom will end up there next to sublime sooner or later

>>52604301
That may be the case. But we still should make it as hard as possible for them to get stuff from us. And if you store your encryption key on a seperate device they at least can't harvest data while you're powered down.

Just laying down and submitting to mass surveillance is not the right thing to do.

>>52604403
> le I'm not a criminal so I don't need privacy meme
Are you retarded?

What's a FOSS browser with adblock support and works with linux that isn't firefox/palememe/icecat/seamonkey ?

>>52606328
He doesn't give a shit about FOSS

>>52606452
Qupzilla, Qutebrowser are the only two I know of.

You could look into some really obscure ones but I doubt those are well-supported.

>>52600159
>Arch breaks all the time for even experienced users.
No it doesn't. My install has been going for a year and a half, I update weekly, the worst that has happened was I switched to broadcom-wl-dkms because I got sick of reinstalling broadcom-wl after kernel upgrades. Stop being a moron and Arch doesn't break.

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>>52606496
>be a catalystfag
>bacman -Syyu
>ubdates found
>abbly ubdates
>X 1.18 broke

Hello /flt/
Is the general consensus that Playonlinux is better to use than straight Wine?

My purpose is basically games and occasionally trying to run Aimp.

I checked Steam and about 147 of 160 games were already Linux ready (30 last year) and ran steam in Wine to test some games on that.
I only a few games, one had poor performance (black ops I), one better than on Windows (sven co-op) somehow and one slightly worse than on Windows (slime rancher).

I tested this on Kubuntu, going back to Mint so performance might be worse with the older kernel.

How to install WM themes?

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Avid Hackintosh user here, want to change to GNU/Linux for a "Linux-only February" because OS X' drivers are fucking shit and see wether I can survive with GIMP. However I have a problem with switching:

I have this old theme from GNOME 3.10 which I love big time, and it's pretty broken in the newer GNOME versions and has no forks or ports to the newer ones. Does anyone has experience with porting themes to new versions? Any IDEs or similar tools that can be used to port them? Or are fixing themes pretty much a lost cause?

Seriously want this up and running, but I'm scared that fixing the theme might take hours upon hours to fix without prior knowledge. I also read that GNOME is pretty much breaking themes on purpose at this point, any truth to that?

Pic related, it's a representation of what the theme looks like in a broken state.

>>52606222
Unregistered edition

>>52606875
>I have this old theme from GNOME 3.10 which I love big time, and it's pretty broken in the newer GNOME versions and has no forks or ports to the newer ones. Does anyone has experience with porting themes to new versions? Any IDEs or similar tools that can be used to port them? Or are fixing themes pretty much a lost cause?

You'd have to ask the people on DeviantArt. Seriously, they would have a better method than what we could post

>>52606861
depends on the WM

>>52606875
Don't do it stick to your hackintosh before you fall down the rabbit hole of autism

Pretty much complete noob here, how do I set configuration options for rxvt? I've been following the Arch Wiki and it seems to be set up to work with my Xresources file, but when I try to edit anything, it doesn't work.

>>52607170
you need to call xrdb on the Xresources file

>>52607270
Ugh. It's always so simple. Thanks

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guise, are you shilling the fsf survey yet?
https://www.fsf.org/news/whats-your-vision-for-the-fsf-fill-out-our-survey-1

richard needs your feedback.

How do I fix a select few packages giving invalid or corrupted package (pgp signature) errors? Tried switching mirrors it's not helping. Tried clearing the package cache too.

>>52607147
> Comes to friendly Linux thread
> tells people not to use Linux

You are right that he shouldn't go down the rabbit hole of theme making and ricing.

Install MATE, buddy. Work with themes from that; GNOME 3 is bloated normalshit.

I followed the instructions at for apache/LAMP https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/RuTorrent

but when I load 127.0.0.1/rutorrent, all I get is a 403 page

>>52607857
for yaourt

yaourt -S --m-arg --skippgpcheck

not sure how it is for anything else

>>52608068
Official packages. Might check that but isn't doing that a really bad thing. I assume that the packages are actually fucked up on the mirrors and that's why it's failing.

>>52601736
you can use oh-my-zsh on linux as well

>>52608221
I think he's trying to just imply that the team behind ohmyzsh are macfags and you shouldn't use their software/

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>>52606222
>running closed source binaries
>on linux
You are doing it wrong.
Consider going back to windows, to be quiet frankly honest, family.

I'm gonna do it! I'm gonna add

ACCEPT_LICENSE="-* @FREE"

To may gentoo make.conf, forcing gentoo to only download free software.

Is this a bad idea /flt/?

>>52608531
won't make a difference if you only got free software before anyway

>>52608575
New to Gentoo, (Not to Linux though.) so I don't know if I unintentionally installed non-free software.

Gonna reinstall Gentoo and go the way of the freetard.

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why does arial look so ugly? everything else on my system looks good, but arial is just ugly

>>52608616
you don't need to install for that to take effect

I've been messing with Arch I'm a VM, Windows 10 host, and I've been able to get around every problem I've come across. The issue is that I just can't get anything done without problems coming up. Some of it is just Vbox weirdness, but I can't tell if the rest is my fault. Is it worth my time to keep messing with it, or should I just use something easier like Mint/Ubuntu to get a functional programming environment?

>>52608753
arch is for ricing
debian is for work

I cannot get Linux mint installed correctly in my acer aspire laptop. It has a uefi boot mode that I disable secure boot on, ran rufus to make the usb, and partitioned 20 gb for the install and 3 gb for the swap, with the install being on the / directory. My bootloader install being on that ext4 20 gb directory. The grub menu will not load without the USB in after install, why is this? I also tried to install the bootloader on my 300 mb efi partition yet it goes straight back to windows 10


Tl; Dr grub will not load even though I have tried to install Linux mint 17.3 at least 4 times

>>52608779
Only if you fall into the hole of perma tweaking.

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I'm trying to paste >1GB files into my micro SD card on Arch and it is slow as heck and sometimes it even freezes my computer from time to time during the transfer. What gives?

>>52609206
what command are you using to do it?

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>>52599068
what's wrong with this
antergos, dual monitors. one in landscape, one in portrait.
The orientation of everything on the portrait monitor is correct except for the background/whatever manages the desktop.
this is super annoying - what do I do?

>>52609226
I'm just copying and pasting using Thunar and Spacefm. I'm having more luck with Spacefm but the transfer stalls at 100%.

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At what point is somone no longer a Linux noob? What are the skills that make somone just pass the noob phase in people's opinions?

> Gentoo Hardened
> Grub2 Bootloader
> encrypted hard drive
> hangs after saying "loading initial ramdisk"

I'm at the end of my rope here; nothing's working. I included --lvm --mdadm and --udev in my genkernel command to generate an initramfs and I'm fairly confident that the kernel is configured correctly. My only guess is it's a problem with grub but that config also looks good.

Nothing I've looked up so far has helped. Can any of you?

>>52609251
welp. right after posting this, my computer locked up and then it started working as it should. what the hell.

>>52609343
being able to do things on the cli
being able to fix minor problems
knowing how to operate config files
writing scripts

>>52609380

That only takes like a week (or less) though.

>>52609343
When you know how to sed/awk you are no longer a noob.

>>52609343
A non-noob:

* Knows to consult man pages
* Knows the most common shell commands pretty well (ls, cd, cp, rm, mv)
* Is comfortable enough with the command line that they don't fear they'll break everything
* May not enjoy the command line, but at least KNOWS how powerful it can be
* Understands the gist of the Linux filesystem hierarchy
* Is comfortable installing/updating software via the command line

That's it. At that point, you're a regular Linux user, and you just need to begin building a vocabulary with more Linux commands and more shell scripts. Pretty much anything else can be Googled or downloaded as needed.

Now, becoming an "advanced" Linux user is something different altogether.

>>52609400
It takes a week if you put in the effort. Most people don't.

I'm looking for a way to make custom key bindings independent of which WM / DE used.

For example i use Alt-(P/N/T) to control my music, but i always have to reconfigure those when i change to another WM.

>>52609512
Simple Hotkey Daemon - sxhkd

>>52609606
Thanks. I've also found xbindkeys in the meantime.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xbindkeys

The configuration for sxhkd seems more simple though.

Thank you

>>52609606
I've already got it working.

Thanks again, friendly anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ

I was kind of disappointed when I finally heard the context for Linus' "Fuck You"

I always imagined it was at and oonvention or conference and there was heated debated between Microshaft's proprietary software shills and Linus' FOSS community, and someone pushed Linus too far.

Just a really epic sort of "fuck you", as opposed to what he actually was on about.

>>52609907
You posted this 2 threads ago. Like this exact post. Are you trying to start a shit flinging contest or something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNBMdDaYhZA

I did not imagine Richard Stallman's voice sounding that way.

Should I bother deblobbing my kernel if I ever get my initramfs to load? I was planning to once I got my Gentoo system running.

>>52609957
I'm flattered you remember.

I just wanted a (you).

>>52609995
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umQL37AC_YM

>>52610051
This raises a good question.

How does everyone pronounce "Linux"?

I basically treat the u as an i, so it's more like "lin-icks" (rhymes with "bin kicks").

"Li-nucks" just doesn't roll off the tongue.

>>52610099
Used to say lie-nix. Now I say linix.

>>52610099
The better question is do people actually say ganoo unironically. Just say G-N-U ffs.

>>52610099
>>52610111
I always said "linucks" but I didn't drag it out at all. Linucks.

Stallman seems to be dragging it out like Li - nucks

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newbie here running mint 17.3 on a lenovo y410p (kernel 3.19.0.-32 generic)
>realtek audio in windows has actual clear bass
>standard audio in mint sounds like cheap laptop speakers
>realtek linux driver just fuck my shit leaving me with a dummy audio device and no sound
is there anyway to have nice sound or do I just have to deal?

on a side note none of the repairs I found for the dummy worked so I reinstalled but kept my home folder, I do love how all my preferences and session data stayed post format

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>>52599068
>boot the debian net installer
>running through it, waiting for bars to fill up
>your wifi uses non-free firmware
>yeah yeah fair enough
>please download it onto a usb and plug it in
God fucking damn it debian, stallman already hates you. You don't have to try and 'muh freedumb' so hard you don't include basic shit necessary to run my system

>>52610099
yea, lin'icks

>>52610051
>comment
>"I just load emacs directly into the memory and never turn my machine off"
KEK

>>52610099
lee-nux

>>52610162
>cater to meeee
if you need non-free firmware, use an image with non-free firmware included
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

>>>52610258

Got something fun you guys might like.

>>52610162
>he doesn't know about the non-free ISOs
kappa

How can I make Linux stop charging the battery when its full? Its killing my battery life

~10 left
GNU/Thread:
>>52610519
>>52610519
>>52610519

>>52610531
Literally ~15 was a closer number. Early posting fag.

>>52610555
At least it's not shitty apps guy.
12 posts are okay to be honest, familia.

>>52607857
>>52608068
Ended up fixing this by updating archlinux-keyring individually. Seems some keys changed.

Distro selection question

I've been running ubunutu for a while now, but it's got a lot of stuff I think I don't need. Too much fluff. What's the next best step? I'm currently looking at mint, Debian, and centOS

I just installed Kali Linux the other day and my track pad click down and scroll wasnt working. Some shallow digging in Google enable the click down to work but I could never find the scroll problem fix. Any ideas?

>>Recommended for Beginners:
>Xubuntu, Mint, openSUSE

You are still recommending easily breaking shit? Remove all *buntus right now, replace with Fedora and Korora.

>>52609343
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgOKsUBvlYc

>>52614817
Fedora