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>Years of Experience
>How did you find/get job
>Job Title - Analyst
>Years of Experience - 3
>Degrees/Certs - AA General Education from CC. GIAC Reverse Engineering Malware, A+, Net+, Sec+, all of those shitty Microsoft office certs from 2007, 2010 including the expert levels. Then two more certifying being able to troubleshoot and manage Windows 7 and Windows Server 2012 in an enterprise.
>How did you find/get job - internship from highschool
>Pay - 42k/y
>Location - FL
Certs are cool and all but it doesn't mean shit without experience. If you are someone with a ton of certs and looking to get a job in IT with no real prior experience I would assume you brain dumped all of em.
Ideally you want to find an entry level Networking job with some Networking Engineers above you so they can teach you on the job.
If you currently don't have an IT job you can start off on a Tech help desk at a real company and in a year try to move up and out to Networking. Don't get stuck in the Help Desk.
I work at this business solutions place, where we do a bit of everything. I mostly deal with firewall installations, low-level networking solutions, sometimes pulling cable (hate that). They also have me training on Oracle Micros PoS machines - E7, RES & 9700 and later Symphony.
My manager is pretty knowledgeable and a pretty good mentor but I don't particularly like the job. It's stressful in that you have to deal with a lot of clients and be on the ball with several different products and their associated installation/troubleshooting.
I guess I should stay here for a while and get experience but I'd much rather have a comfy sysadmin job or something for a small organization rather than managing a bunch of clients.
OP here, I've had the job since Late 2012 my senior year in Highschool. I had all but the GREM cert by end of 2013. I got the GREM recently after working on the job for 2 years.
They have taught me everything I know or atleast given me the free time to learn what I want. Every language I know is because of them. I am being transitioned into Project Management while keeping Programming/Analysis as my back up because they know I want to be management.
True careers aren't about money, its about the inspiration to grow yourself as a business someone would want to buy.
Technical Analyst / Jr. Sysadmin
>Years of Experience
Starting AA on information systems
Working on completing MCSE
>How did you find/get job
Just lucked out, they're paying for certs.
Currently cert-less but got an internship for this summer as a sec consultant at a good company, but want to be more capable on the job, should I skip A+ and go straight for Net+?
are there any other regular threads for general IT/CS learning? I'm taking CS50X right now through in-person classes put on by LaunchCode.org and want to talk to fellow CS50X-taking fa/g/s
As someone who's used computers for most of their life (I know this doesn't make me qualify, but...) and is looking to change jobs and start working somewhere in the IT field, what would be your advice for a new comer? Sorry if this doesn't really suit thread purpose (discussing certs, etc.) But I could really use some guiders or just pointers to external sites at least. Thanks. Should mention UK also.
this one or
CompTIA Network+ All-In-One Exam Guide, Sixth Edition (Exam N10-006)
Business Analyst/Project Owner
>Years of Experience
>How did you find/get job
SME > Tester > Lead Tester...
$90K base, 10 to 15% bonus
Finishing off my under-grad (Econometrics) year-ending 2017, and then will do CCNET and CCNA across 2018.
Not sure what longer term goal is. Maybe move away from being embedded in the business to more consulting role? Any suggestions would help.
>Almost 1 professionally ,programming for 2 yrs now
>2nd year for comp sci
>company went to my uni
>hourly as i study daily, comes at about 3-4k a month which makes me a very rich student
>Years of Experience
Extended Diploma in Technology
>How did you find/get job
One thing that's going to stand out is the amount which I am earning. It is obvious that it isn't much and I am trying to push for an increase in pay - I took on the job initially with that in mind, I just wanted to have something to work with first of all. So far I have done anything and everything that my employers have asked without any issues (General network diagnostics and setup an entire hosted telephony system for one of our clients)
I have given them a figure of what I am expecting, what would you say is realistic?
>tfw having it now as im in my early 20s
>not seeigng any guys over 40 that are not in management positions
>what the fuck happens to 90% of programmers as they get older?
im afraid of my future, young shitters like me right now will be better at my job when i get older
when I got my first junior function, I had no certifications just some basic computer and networking knowledge and I got €2000 /month with some extra benefits like a company car with fuel card
I want to get the new version of the LPIC-1, but it's been hard to get some good material and questions, I got the VCE for 101-400 but there's only 85 questions and I've read mixed opinions on the validity of these questions.
I really wish O'Reilley would go release newer IN A NUTSHELL books. They are GOAT.
>Field support technician
>less than one year
>CCENT, formerly A+ and CCENT
>Contracting agency saw my linkedin and called me
>15.70/hour. Should be getting a raise soon though
Feel free to ask questions. No, I won't name my company.
Should I be less afraid to share more information with potential employers?
What are the best kind of answer to give, if I can honestly enough give them?
I worked for a company that upgrades and resells computers. Before that I worked for Kroger. So not much.
The job was very entry-level XP>Win7 migration. Moved off of that project to another migration project, then moved off of that project to field support.
>If you currently don't have an IT job you can start off on a Tech help desk at a real company and in a year try to move up and out to Networking. Don't get stuck in the Help Desk.
>Don't get stuck in the Help Desk.
>Don't get stuck in the Help Desk.
>Don't get stuck in the Help Desk.
>Don't get stuck in the Help Desk.
my heart stopped for a second reading this last sentence. I've been at this job for six months, I have no certs, in six months I can apply for jobs internally. I don't want to get stuck in help desk, I really don't.
What does /g/ think of working in the field of network architecture?
> Starting uni next year (CS)
> Considering expanding my certifications though CISCO afterwards
Ideally I'd like to do mechanical engineering but most of that work is in the R&D feild which is practically nonexistent here, I'd have to move to the US or Germany.
This semester at a CC I am taking a Net+, A+, Sec+ and an intro programming course. Am I fucked or no?
currently studying for the VCP6-DCV, pain in the ass as I don't use half the feature sets at work (other products take their place) but anyway
>Years of Experience
enterprise level, like 5. IT in general, around 10
buncha niche stuff in storage and virtualization, some part of an MCSA (never finished)
>How did you find/get job
moved up from desktop tech
enough, but not enough
can't say, but in the USA
>college student (freshman)
>worked junior and senior year at a gym
>HS diploma, CCNA R/S, CCNA Security, DoD 8570.01-M compliant
>im trying to get a job with the university tech help desk
>$15 an hour with like 5-15 hours a week (thats perfect for me)
im currently applying into the engineering program at my college but i want to put my tech certs to use so i can get some real world experience. how can i achieve this?
Info Systems Analyst
>years of experience
relevant work: 8, but technically my dad started me on computers back when I was 5 in 94.
>Degrees / Certs
A+ is all I have for now but I'm working on my AS in computer networking
>How did you find / get the job
I applied for the job like every other
55K (it's hourly so I get OT when I want basically)
I was a radio / computer tech in the Marines with a secret level clearance. what are my odds of getting hired as a dod contractor even though I've out of service for a few years?
If you're a spic or a sand-nigger you'll be wanting to tell them that. If you're just a regular nigger, you'll be wanting to keep that to yourself, because even the tech community has little tolerance for niggers.
Holy shit relevant location, So I'll be moving soon and I'll be at most 1 hour away from Richmond and Charlottesville at the new location. Got any advice for me other than to make an indeed resumé and fix up my Linkedin? (The unfortunate part is that I was in the golden area of Ashburn for IT opportunities.) - Just anything that'll make me valuable in some way, I've no clue since Certs seem to be the give away.
I've been doing Linux stuff since Freshman year high school (if that matters,) I'm working on my Net+, Sec+, and CCNE, and attending online NOVA since my move will be within this time frame. (I've heard learning SQL will make me stand out?)
healthcare IT motherfucker, pajeet can't do my job
its a hospital system, HIPPA compliences and all of the other healthcare bullshit preventing pajeet or carlos from taking my job. I worked in a previous help desk job where most of the help desk was in Costa Rica, literally the only reason my previous job help desk was in the U.S was because of the healthcare employees and high importance employees calling in.
Wireless technician for a wireless ISP
Only have had the job a few months. Worked in other IT type jobs and internships for a few years as well.
My minor is in computer information systems.
>Find /get job
Lived in a rural place so looked for ISP's that cover the area. Asked if they were looking for techs and hounded them until they finally chose me.
Roughly 2,000-3,000 a month. It's a small company so the pay isn't great. But gave me a new car for free with some other benefits like training in fiber optics and what not. Can't complain.
Rural West coast.
Should I put my CCNP Route and Switch cert (no TSHOOT) on my resume if I have zero job experience?
My friends told me most employers will assume anyone with the CCNP and no experience just dumped
With the tax break its equivalent to making 170k. It isn't an ideal situation to be sure, but being able to save $10k a month will puts me way ahead. I've done this for over two years now and have almost 300k in cash.
However, I'm not even paid that great compared to other contractors out here. I'm trying to score a bigger paying contract..some make ~250k out here.
So, is it worth it? It depends on your goals.. I'm not allowed to be in the U.S for 334 days a year to keep my tax break and you're stuck out on a base doing nothing but working or working out.
I'll do this a few more years and semi-retire hopefully.
Secret last for 10 years i believe, before needing to renew. DoD contractors are going to want degrees+TS, and for good reason.. The Corps gets the shaft on IT jobs too so you'll have to bring more to the table just for not being AF/Navy.
Alright, I got basics down for hardware, and I'm fairly knowledgeable on networking, but I guess its worth reading through the whole damn book *sigh*. There are just so many other books I'd rather be reading. Story of my life, excuse the pun.
If youre really confident, use flash cards to see where you need improvement for N+, if you just have basics for hardware, dont try to wing a+. Its not hard but theres a lot of troubleshooting and shit like that.
I primarily got computer hardware down, not any peripherals or shit like that. I just know how to use them and make them work, maybe tinker with em a bit, but yeah, CompTIA loves throwing keywords at you.
This is all wrong. I'm the DoD contractor. Secret clearance last 2 years if you're not actively in a position using it. Same with if you have a TS clearance it will only last 2 years if you're in a position requiring it..so if you take a job that only requires Security then you'll drop down within 24 months if you're not using it.
I applied to the DoD without a degree. Yes, there are jobs that require degrees but there are quite a few that don't as well. All you need is a Sec+ and a CE cert such as Windows 7 from MS. Entry-level jobs here pay 80-100k
Nothing really other than internet. Housing and food is free. I may pay for clothes occasionally as well. I generally don't spend more than $400 a month there. Internet is $160 month for 2mb internet.
Where do you work as a network admin? I was at Bagram in 2013, with 455 ECS (air force), doing networking as an enlisted. Our shop contractor was making 250k a year, was there for 4 years. Left a week before us, was pretty jelly of him. All the contractors that had been there a few years seemed a bit off to us tho, like they seemed a bit fucked up, idk. Made me change my mind about getting out and going back out there, though a couple of the guys from my shop ended up going back as a contractor after separating. I decided to use my GI Bill instead, applying to grad programs this week. Hopefully it's worth it in the long run.
Pic related, smoke from when the plane went down the first week I was there. Look that shit up on youtube if you haven't seen it, was loud af.
Oh shit! That was not very long before I arrived here. I'm with Exelis.
Who was your shop guy with? I'm trying to move into that higher pay bracket with this next contract.
Yeah, it's not the best life. I kinda understand what you say when contractors seem off, but I guess we all have to be a little fucked to want to be out there that whole time.
Grad school is a great thing man, goodluck with it.. worst case scenario you can always come on out here and make a good living.
No problem, if you have any more questions feel free to ask.
All said, yes it's not ideal.. but if you're young and have nothing tying you down doing some overseas contracting can put you very far ahead financially. A good 2-3 years of this and you can come home and pay for your house in cash, come home with a security clearance that'll net you a 70k a year job sitting on your ass in some government building. 70k goes a long way with no mortgage, young guns.
He was with Lockheed while I was there. You can look at his LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaron-greene-msia-cissp-issap-pmp-1ba47b12
Dude was a fuckin baller with all those certs and degrees, knew more about networking than anyone I've ever met. He's pretty much the reason why I bothered to get my CCNA while I was over there in the first place.
Oh shit, nice. Thanks bud! He's definitely got some broad experiences and worked with some top tier contractors.
I need to up my fucking game. I'm afraid that the contracting at Bagram will soon be coming to an end. I guess I'll be headed to Kuwait next time just sucks since they don't get the uplift like Afghan does.
Well I'm relatively new to my career. I graduated just under 2 years ago and have been working ever since. I'm currently a junior network admin but my responsibilities are not what I would like. My thoughts on this cert are basically to break the HR barrier. I would love to get into another junior admin or some sort of system support role that handles tier 1 and 2 support.
I got my A+ and applied to 50 jobs
not 1 call back/email back
save your money lads
I've recently been interviewing for networking jobs and employers are actually saying the opposite - they get a lot of people who have advanced certs/degrees but don't know shit about the basics. Employers do appreciate A+ and Network+, though an associates can be an equivalent.
I meet the needed qualifications and I've been going to interviews but no callbacks. I have a feeling that my personality is ruining it for me, like I'm a person people might not find comfortable to deal with and maybe I act too serious. I wish I could be more "fun" and make random funny remarks but I'm too awkward for that.
A lot of people are in the same boat. It's really difficult to be yourself during an interview. It's even harder the more you want a specific position. You have to kind of not get too excited.
I agree with this anon. There's a certain expectation of conformity with interviews. With IT you can be a bit more flexible though. If you're trying to be fun, scope out their interests first and play on that. Ex: Whenever they ask about hobbies, I always mention reading and ask if they have read anything good recently.
I have a Security+ and I'll likely get a Network+ later this year. I'll have an Associates degree in networking, and I'll have a bachelors in 2018. How much will the two certs and degree help me get an internship while I'm at a four year college?
I have net+ and a security clearance which has opened up a bunch of jobs for me anywhere from $25 - 35 an hour as federal contractor. If you have a security clearance get at least sec+ have got multiple calls asking when I will have that cert offering 50+ and hour. All federal jobs require sec+ so if you are military IT and getting out soon, get your sec+ before anything else.
Man just figure out what you like to do and focus on it. If you ever got a CCIE that would blow any degree out of the water. I would argue a CCNP is equal or better than a degree. CCNA by itself isn't though.
The degree is Info Assurance and Security, under the IS major - so that's reassuring. Do you know what positions they got into on graduation? I feel like so much of what we've been learning is more security methods (Public key, hashing, etc) but can't see how much of this connects to an actual occupation
This, but at the same time, don't just restrict yourself to the operational support side of things. There is a variety different routes you can take. Business Analysis and testing roles can be a good in to the development side of things, without needing a huge amount of technical experience.
Why the bloody hell would you study certs as a BA/PO. Going from your terminology you're working in a dev/integration environment, so I'd say that consulting would be the next best step. Not just biased because consultant. Consulting is based, I could never stay in one place doing the same thing for a long time.
Interestingly, I had a similarly progression so far to yours:
Now I do Performance Engineering for data transport systems in IB backend systems. That's the kind of stuff you don't get to do anywhere other than consulting. Worth a go if you want to try new things, incredibly long hours and intense demand though.
If you can progress to system or enterprise level architecture, then yes. But only if you want to go corporate. If that's the case, you'd want to go for ITIL and TOGAF in terms of certifications. Don't listen to anyone who tells you to do anything else at all.
Where do you live at the minute.
-fixing computers to fund car fixing
-Sr consulting sysadmin
-Global manager, IT
make butt buddies with a business dude as much as you might hate them. they will teach you the crap you will need to regurgitate to make CIO happen. probably want a degree for that path. I've just been in the right place at the right time. I'm a very stupid person.
>Years of Experience
>How did you find/get job
getting shit done
/g/ wouldn't believe me
Shouldn't be surprising, met a lot of amazing but emotionally dead workers myself being one of them. wouldn't be surprised if they spent their free time browsing /g/
Depends. I'm doing info systems right now. If you have connections you can just do certs. If you don't you need a degree to get your foot in the door.
If you can afford college I would go for it.
network security engineer
>Years of Experience
1, plus 6 months if internship counts (it doesnt)
associates from community college
>How did you find/get job
class/internship was offered at the com.college, local prof. services company holds interviews every 6 months to grab people w/o degrees for cheap labor.
>maybe 10 people took the class after finishing a year of cisco/networking
>5 or 6 showed up for a PAID internship interview
>me(literally cleaning toilets for a living), unfortunate looking girl(served popcorn at a movie theatre), and a guy who took a bicycle everywhere, even tho he's from suburbs (jewel cashier) got the positions
>company is less than 30 people
>interview is 20 seconds of me reciting what i've googled about them the night before and co-owner talking up the company for maybe 5
>then a technical interview with other co-owner and main sales guy
>bluff through most of it, completely guessed all unix questions, got most of it right or talked in circles
>sales guy likes my jib, tells me to expect an email next morning
>6 months of minimum wage internship learning to install/troubleshoot the product (web sec), couple weeks of classes, the rest is sitting at home watching other people work
>been full time employed for a year now, still don't know shit about networking, linux, or security
>troubleshooting is sql, permission issues and dealing with the braindead
>work from home, usually wake up minutes before meetings
just got a raise, 30ish to 40ish, 5k extra for willing to do on-site gigs (travel)
Currently cramming for the 901 test I'm taking on 2/1 with the Prof Messer videos and the Mike Meyers A+ book. I am pretty knowledgeable as I am working as a forum rep making a good amount of cash for a well known PC games company.
Is there enough time, /g/? Am I fucked?
Sr Technical Lead
>Years of Experience
4 professional, 3-4 hobby/self learning
>How did you find/get job
85k, but would get more if I asked
oh shit forgot to add what happened to the girl and bicycle guy
>bicycle guy drops out halfway through, just dissapears, he was actually good at ios and nix
>girl goes through the whole internship and doesn't fucking show up for her first meeting with a client, guess whether or not she got a second chance
it's a shame tho, the only women are project coordinators
>True careers aren't about money, its about the inspiration to grow yourself as a business someone would want to buy.
This is America: you're either a duper or a dupee.
I'm a duper.
You guys are the dupees.
>If you're a spic or a sand-nigger you'll be wanting to tell them that. If you're just a regular nigger, you'll be wanting to keep that to yourself, because even the tech community has little tolerance for niggers.
Is that right?
will this shield my autism?
got replaced by a suburban mom
prof. services, we deploy big It security company products, you get assigned a client (all sizes, from 50 to over 10k employees), you deploy the product over a week or so (remotely, it's 99% software), make sure everything works, client is happy, move on to the next.
my day is
>wake up 5-10 minutes before the call if im lazy
>if its the first day with a client, be nice and talk about the weather, answer w/e questions sales missed
>if something isn't working apologize a lot while you google sql/gpo/linux errors and pray there's a forum post with a solution
>if a client is from a different coast, you start early, but end early
>at the end you make sure client understands what the fuck they just deployed on their network
>if you're lucky you're working with the network guy who doesn't have to ask 10 people to change a line on a switch, so you can do weeks worth of work in like 2 days, then you kinda chill in your room waiting to fill in if someone needs on the spot troubleshooting
no sick days tho, im running a fever rn, gonna go chug syrup
good luck, talk less, smile more
don't over do it, ironed oxford shirt, pants (not dress and not jeans and NOT fucking shiny khakis), go somewhere where the sales lady will make sure you look presentable. don't wear a fucking tuxedo to a just above minimum wage job, shave and dont wear the fedora
Why don't you use YaCy?
the black guy, i make sure to turn up my speakers if im fucking around away from my desk so i hear Skype for Business pings
no, the ios/android version isn't functional just like pretty much everything mobile ms
Saying only pedos care about privacy because normal people have nothing to hide is like saying only Nazi's care about freedom of speech because normal people don't express unpopular opinions.
>mfw I'm about to get hired full time making 33k a year and I'm only a 19 year old junior in college
nobody repairs pc's anymore, buy whatever knockoff parts you can find on fleabay/taobao for iphones/whatever android phone is popular this week. im talking screens, speakers, headphone jacks, camera shit. spam ads on craigslist, fuck, if you live in an urban area print out flyers with a joke or a goatse on them to grab attention, look up what other 100 dudes in your area are charging for it, type up an easier to read ad/maybe not use stock photos, undercut the price a little, make sure you make at least minimum wage
for tech support apply at whatever call centers are around you, watch a+ cert videos
I dual enrolled in HS and then went to CC for a year where I also landed a internship. I had about 60 credit hours just from that and then transferred to a 4 year majoring in information systems. I then applied for a shit ton of internships using the letter of recommendation from my last internship to get me one. I eventually landed a internship at a large hospital working "tier 2 helpdesk" which means basically they call us after the tier one helpdesk can't fix it. Now I'm about to get hired full time because they think I do a good job.
>mfw will have a degree + 3 years experience + a few certs before I even graduate
Why would you hit a 10.x.x.x address when running a traceroute? Volunteering at a senior center and when you run a traceroute it'll hit that address first then the usual DNS servers from cox.
>also may be a stupid question but are the tests done online or do I go to a location near me type of thing?
You don't get to bring quizlet
>clean official background check
>first few results when you google my name are newspaper articles about being arrested for felony narcotics and paraphernalia possession
>guy with a girls name
>girl sharing my name had a huge lawsuit thing
>it took me 22 pages on google until I found anything to do with me
>I've since deleted my facebook
>I'm now probably not even on google
>mfw I'm on news websites because of sports
Why did I used to be a normie?
gonna say it again, google for 2 minutes before you actually ask someone, its a good habit to have, even on anime forums
i think some of the easiest ones you do online, bc everyone braindumps anyway, for ccie they lock you up in a server room for 8 hours without a smoke break
try doing it on your own, if it doesnt work out to make you minimum wage go work labor/retail to buy food
labor pays more than whatever youre gonna land without 4 year and makes you wise
lmao same, no ones gonna stalk you on google, unless youre a chick, dont worry bout it
i thought about it and it's probably not a thing with the patents and all
do what normal people do, go to a community college, enroll in whatever you think you like and dont flip flop your "focus" because you're not in university banging chicks. i lost all interest in technology after working IT, after a while you associate anything that has a screen/cmd prompt with headaches and tedious work. i have an iphone because i couldnt be bothered to install a faster rom on my nexus whatever number to make it usable, instead, i picked up metalworking, its way fucking cooler than banging lolis in vr
>true careers aren't about money
How the fuck does anyone think like this? Your boss and his boss and eventually the guy who owns the company all work on a financial premise. Every investment they make in you is directly tied to an expected financial outcome (e.g. increased productivity, greater breadth of services, higher billing, etc.) and you're stuck thinking a job is really a family like you're 17 working with your buddies. Grow up or you will eventually get fucked. IT is *the* industry known for a "raise" almost always being a job transition or a counter offer from a current employer. Either you want to advocate for yourself or you want to get cucked by people who have realized pretending to care about you is worth tens of thousands of dollars a year in compensation. Who is getting the better part of that deal?
build racecars my man, nobody repairs pc's anymore, have you looked at laptops and phones lately? they're fucking glued together, they dont want mom and pop replacing parts, you break your phone, you go to the apple store, pay money, 5 minutes later you walk out with a completely different phone with all of your data transfered, your phone goes to a refurb factory somewhere across the ocean and gets sold on ebay by someone who buys a pallet of refurbed iphones from an auction
unless you can find a niche, good luck
work for the el govermente...cushy as shit, good experience and Marines dont know shit about technology. And the pay is competitive and fuck, ESPECIALLY after I stumbled across this thread and saw everyone in IT is making bread crumbs and chicken scraps.
I work with document management and payment processing systems, so I'd like to have a few certs behind me to be able to justify working on automation stuff (like you, funnily enough). I'm getting a few questions on hardware requirements, pricing etc so I figure CCNA is about the appropriate level of certification that would make it easier a sell (even though I know enough about building file servers etc from personal use).
I'm guessing your salary is well over $100,000K. Average MS Analytics graduates seem to get $100,000 starting pretty consistently from okay programs. I've noticed it's very math heavy. Most of the NEET people on here wouldn't be able to pass those courses even though they can troubleshoot.
What is the deal with these analytics programs anyways? How the fuck do they churn out such high placement rates and starting salaries? I really don't get it. I've thought about getting into some sort of data science myself, but I really don't like the math that much.
I just don't get how that would work. I looked at one MSA program and it was graduating like 60 people. It's outcomes stated a 99% placement rate with around a 100K median salary for individuals with NO PRIOR EXPERIENCE. Like how the fuck does that happen? That's absolutely nuts for me, even if the program costs 40K you're making 100K a year right out of a 2 year program. I guess it's a masters so it's not that crazy, but I find it pretty nuts.
maybe its simply THAT much in demand, employers know nerds like fucking around with PCI's and having sweet gaming rigs, so the supply is higher than whatever program you're talking about.
If you look at salaries as far as masters degrees you basically have multiple types of statistics, engineering, and computer science. As far as I can tell these analytics degrees are a sort of mix of all of them that are specifically made to churn out industry jobs. It's just a pain in the ass because even after reading about the programs it's hard to figure out what these people are actually doing in "Analyst" roles.
I'm a business analyst (non-technical). i basically get the right people in the right rooms to facilitate projects, and own processes to make sure it's completed properly and delivered on time. I dunno if that helps at all.
>1 year 7 months
> computer info systems BSBA
>first job applied to and got it, was in local area 23 miles from college
> $37K starting + $7500 in benefits , after a year 41K + 6500 in benefits.
>rural western NC. I make more than the average household in my county. And as a single male I live pretty well.
Has anybody started out working from home?
I'm talking some sort of tier 1 support. Specifically I'm looking at Support.com.
Is that a viable way to start your career if non-telecommuting jobs are scarce?
I have an MTA (yeah I know) and A+, currently studying for my Net+, after that Sec+ and CCNA, no degrees.
No way dude I worked at a WISP. It was pretty dope climbing on top of water towers and stuff installing radios and satellites. Pay wasn't great though and it wasn't giving me any programming experience so I left.
i didn't become a sysadmin until i was 28. there really is no "age limit" if you have the proper certifications. shit, i know a high school dropout who got his cisco certifications, and now he makes $100k+/year.
get red hat certifications if you're serious. make sure you get jang's book on the red hat certs.
Yes they cost money. A general guide? Not yet.
The basic newbie certs are CompTIA Triad which are A+, Net+, Sec+
Those are enough to get you entry-level helpdesk, noc technician type jobs.
Beyond that you have MCSA, CCNA, etc.. which are associate level certs that are supposed to train you for jobs such as sysadmin and network admin type jobs.
Ok thanks anon. I'm already entry level helpdesk, plan on going into advanced technical support in a month or two. After this I am thinking NOC or advanced product specialist, I'm not sure. My employer will pay for certs though so I am going to get in on this
How did you get this position? I have no degree, experience or certs in IT.
I really feel like I need to get that first job as soon as possible but it seems like all the jobs here want experience. what do
I had 1 week of class training, 3 weeks of training while on phones most of the day, and then on the job training throughout. It's an easy job. Lots of people say call centers are bad, and maybe other ones are, but I like my job.
What are your qualifications right now and what type of experience do you have? A+ won't really do much to be honest. The only people it will impress are low level HR recruiters. If you want a serious career change you'll have to aim higher for something like a CCNA or an MCSA of some sort. But it depends on what you really want to do.
OSCP is the coolest, most unique, and steadily becoming one of the most respected (by people beyond HR folks) certifications in the industry. All for obvious reasons when you read what the cert is and what it takes to get it and compare that to the multiple-choice theory-based exams of every other cert. out there. As a small piece of information to get you interested: the exam is 24 hours long and involves zero test taking.
And no I am not a shill, I am just very excited to hopefully give the cert a try this summer.
I am a former WPS PSD contractor who worked for various companies, last one being Triple Canopy. I resigned to go back to school full time for Networking/Security stuff and of course do a lot of things on my own/have experience in general. I wouldn't mind starting contracting again in that capacity: do you know what companies are hiring for IT?
I have many hookups in the world of gun-slinging but somehow the IT side of thing is totally separate so far and I have to build up my network, friends, contacts, etc. for that and was wondering if you had any starting point? And not SOCNET, already check there frequently.
Thanks in advance.
I'm assuming you don't have a degree or an associates. I would suggest getting your CCNA. CCNA alone could land you a NOC or junior admin position it just might require some luck because of your background. The good thing about IT is school isn't really the best route. The problem is HR does the recruiting but they have no fucking clue what to look for. Certs like A+, Network+ are more so for breaking the HR process than impressing employers. Eventually you could even branch off into linux or Microsoft certs as well. But I would definitely suggest the CCNA to start. But I'll warn you, if you have no networking experience it will take a little while to grasp the concepts. I would study for at least 3 to 4 months before taking the test.
Just double checked the Academi career page and now I see they have IT an position(s) listed so maybe I just haven't been checking at the right times. I'm used to there being a fairly steady listing of PSD positions, I'm guessing there just isn't as many bodies needed for IT so they aren't listed on the career sections of sites as often.
Computer Science has fuck-all to do with CISCO/Networking/Etc.
Computer Science is awesome but if you want to maintain/hack the Gibson then you should go a different path especially if you are trying to get right too it.
Pick a book and download packet tracer and do packet tracer excersisez. Start with CCENT since it is the first half of the two CCNA tests (that you can also take as a single test). Instead of just being a two-test CCNA they now have it so that you can get a cert (CCENT) from the first CCNA test and there are books specifically for that. So it may be a good way to break up the information.
These are the official books for NetAcademy:
And from experience I know that they are EXACTLY the same thing as provided in the NetAcademy courses, word for word (with more information often times). The lab manuals are unnecessary since they simply put in print form the information that is given in the Packet-Tracer files (as in it is word for word exactly the same, except often worse since it can't dynamically reproduce the variable host-names and such).
Those courses aren't worth the 3.5k. Get a cisco book and packet tracer to apply concepts. The official cert guide by Wendell Odom is pretty good however it's pretty long. There's 2 books at around 800 pages each. Will only cost you 100 bucks or so. You can torrent packet tracer as well so no cost there. You don't really need real equipment for ccna but obviously it will benefit you in the long run if you do.
A starting analytics engineer will probably start at ~72-80K with as much as ~150K for a senior. India is a pretty heavy purveyor of trying to build analytics platforms, but in reality most of them are shit. The big problem is finding someone who's not just smart but can bring functionality that provides value to the customer and the internal users. It's fine if you can calculate a random walk of your web site visitors over time, but if it doesn't actually lead to a business decision or if it's undecipherable to our users, it's worthless.
Also, being confident and able to stand up in front of people and make decisions is huge. There are far too many shy developers in the industry. Stand up for yourself.
.5 years at this job, but I've been using *nix systems for things for years.
AB in Philosophy, working on a BS in CS. No certs.
I was on a listserv for the linux user group at my uni, and I saw the email and replied with my resume.
Minimum wage for now, since I'm still training and essentially working here to get experience in the field.
At my state university in the southern US (it's actually fairly highly ranked for a public state university).
Fair enough, sounds like your role is more straight up tech whereas mine has a bit more business facing, so that makes sense.
I'll take any cert I can get for free from work though.
>Four years Experience
>Tech Diploma of Enterprise Systems/Network Admin, BS.c Computer Science, could write various cert and have the material but they seem cash grabby.
>Applied like everyone
Why would you leave an SA gig for something boring like sec? It's nowhere near as interesting or glamourous as its made out to be, just lots of information policy and DP.
Stick to the SD side of things, but try moving to an SME role maybe?
If you're going to work in a VMWare shop, maybe.
Otherwise, I don't really see the point. You could study virtualization through any other platform and get a general idea. And one software platform may not translate well to the other, especially in terms of its nitty gritty.
But I work in a HyperV + KVM shop, so that's me.
>6 yrs, 1.5 of them as manager
>Net+, Sec+, ITIL
>Go from small business to mid-sized corporate, got bored and jumped out by a friend's referral to a 9-to-5 job for a pay cut.
I'm okay with this, since I value free time more as I get older and see my friends exhausting themselves for pay. But I'm still asking the biz to pony up for certs and training, as you never really know where you'll be or what will open up.
I heard someone saying that Network Security is a really sexy degree but it doesn't mean shit unless you know EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING you're working with so it's essentially a meme degree.
Is this true, /g/? What are less meme degrees?
>Job Title - Sr. Analyst
>Years of Experience - 15
>Degrees/Certs - None
>How did you find/get job - Word of mouth
>Pay - W2 says just under 63k
>Location - Oklahoma
I need to move on to a new place. Current company is stuck in the past. I'm basically 3rd level help desk for airports across the globe. Easier said than done however when you have a family and you don't want to uproot them and go where the money is. At least the cost of living here is low.
Well the question was relevant certs that are more expensive.
I mean even the A+ is $400.
Certs cost but if they can help you land the job or get your foot in the door then they're worth it.
> Electronics Assembler
> Connections and can breathe
> ~$15/ hour
> East Washington State
I'm trying to get into IT, but fuck, the company I work for doesn't have any openings, and no one on the west side is willing to relocate a 21 year old kid.
>[awesome product] is one of the most [adjective 1], [adjective 2] and steadily becoming one of the most [adjective 3]
>As a small piece of information to get you interested...
>And no, I am NOT a shill.
>Years of Experience
Dropped out of college senior year / none
>How did you find/get job
Initially I started with recruiting companies before building my own list of clients
I travel a lot. I moved to the midwest from Miami, and I'm headed to Osaka for 3mo at the end of Feb
I am not much older than you. I started doing 'programming work' when I was 16, and got my first real corporate IT job when I was 19. I was paid relocation. You need to find someone to negotiate on your behalf. Recruiting companies are where it's at, if you're good at IT stuff.
I'm a beginner at programming, not good for doing much, especially GUI-wise. I finally realized that I liked helping people directly and I'm good troubleshooting problems, so IT is right up my alley. Unfortunately, I figured it out last year and nothing has turned up locally.
I tend to be more self-reliant, so I think I'll just head somewhere before hoping some middle man covers my relocation fees--it would be nice, but definitely more unrealistic.
Have fun in Osaka!
be honest /g/. I'm reasonbly comfortable with a Linux system, but I don't know that much about Networking and I'm already 20 years old and STILL in college.
Some mother fuckers in here are 19 and already have legitimate tech jobs.
Do I have any hope?
There was some other thread where someone said they had a legitimate shot at a job opportunity and they were too fucking stupid to know about rm -rf /
This doesn't give me much hope because I'm sure they got the job thanks to connections and nepotism and I don't know anybody important, I'm not charismatic or good at making friends.
See if you can't pass a Net+ or Linux+ practice test? If you average over 700 for more than five tests, shell out the $200 per test and save yourself some money.
You can also put what you know on your resume and can talk about it in the interview. It's not as impressive as experience or a cert, but it's better than nothing.
Academi (new name for Blackwater fyi) lowballs their IT like a mofo. Actually, most of their IT needs are outsourced to locals if possible. I know this because I work in IT in Afghanistan (not for Academi), so while this advice may only pertain to Afghan or OCONUS positions only. Been in the biz over here for a while though, and Academi is on the low end of salaries for IT. Just sayin...
Kudos to you for keeping it real. Been in this shithole twice as long as you doing IT. And yes your salary quotes are pretty spot on. Making 200k+ does help, and yes I will be semi-retiring this year. Being a sysadmin who actually loves what he does, I can pick and choose whatever I go back to, but wont have to work because I have bills to pay.
Dont have an answer to that question honestly. For obvious reason, I wont divulge my company, but I did start out with DyCorp back in the day. Dangerzone jobs dot com might be a good place to start looking if you are so inclined to come over here. Not sure what current Academi sysadmins make now, but as a point of reference, several years back, one of their IT guys opened up and told me he was making 75k for being here. After I apologized for laughing in his face, and told him the lowest paid IT over here I knew was getting paid 125k, I think he saw the light. Bottom line about salaries over here is that the gravy is about gone. Back in 2003-2006, it was a gold rush. Those days are gone. Contracts and money are scarce nowadays. Afghanistan is basically Iraq 2.0. Iraq is done and over, and this place will be soon.
Well, being humble about all this, yeah, I am fortunate to have one of the high paying jobs here. Only real reason I have stayed all this time. Keeping my eye on the big picture. And yeah, I have know two contractors personally that have not made it home. It fucking sucks. But my job and company are very low profile, and they take extraordinary measures to keep me safe in my server room. I have been good about NOT buying a new vette or Escalade. And not blowing my wad in a pile of blow off a hookers ass in Thailand or the Philippines. Although the occasional hooker in Dubai is nice. But putting on armor, long gun and a pistol still suck as a daily ritual though. Shit was kinda cool the first year or two. Now its just added weight I would be glad to do without.
I've been considering this for the last 6 months. I know we're currently pulling out of Afghan, but I imagine will still have a presence for 2-3 more years? Other than Afghanistan, are there any other countries that have high uplift?
Worst case scenario, I guess I could wait until we invade Syria and contract out there.
Is this worth taking loans out for? I've been teaching myself a lot of stuff for a while now, and I really want a network/security job. This degree seems like it would expedite that whole process. Anyone have any experience with something similar?