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- mpc-hc/madvr/bicubic75 > dropped frames
- mpc-hc/madvr/dvxa > smooth but strange colors
- mpv/opengl-hq > dropped frames
- mpv/opengl-hq:deband=no > dropped frames
- mpv/opengl > smooth and no dropped frames
- kodi/pixel-shaders/spline36 > smooth and no dropped frames
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Don't use latest madvr builds, there are full of bugs!
Kodi is pretty dumb about pixel shaders compared to mpv and maybe madvr but can't be sure since it's closed source.
You should keep mpv with opengl, you can use it as external player in kodi and it should work with almost all addons.
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The new plex is awesome and I have absolutely no dropped frames.
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What kind of performance is mpv without anything edited?
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Since getting Windows 10, I've decided to finally give in and install VLC, since everyone seems to go apeshit over it.
Problem is, whenever I play back any DVDs, they look absolutely awful.
It almost ends up looking like it's somehow not playing them in HD.
Is there any way to fix this?
I just want to watch my shitty cartoons.
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>>52584894
>Is there any way to fix this?
Yeah, don't use VLC.
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>>52584996
O... Oh...
Why does everyone praise the fuck out of it then?
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>>52585028
Just use windows media player you cuck.
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>>52585175
I would, but my copy of it is fucking borked.
It plays normal video files all fine, but for some reason it doesn't even recognize that I have a DVD in, and I can't play it.
This is an eternal hell.
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MPC-HC/madVR/super-xbr + Jinc AR-- no dropped frames and 5% CPU util on 720p30 upscaled to 1080p. 11-16% on high bitrate 720p60 Hi10p upscaled to 1080p.
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>>52585308
32% GPU util on a 7870.
Spline36 AR brings it to 18%.
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>>52585308
Do you use super-xbr for chroma upscaling? Doesn't it look like plastic/artificial picture?
I deeply hate this algorithm, it makes everything shit.
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Question guys.

I have forced my display's refresh rate to 72 Hz so I can watch anime in 24 fps with no pulldown, blurring, or juddering. MPC is reporting 72 fps, but something still feels off. The display reported only 60 Hz support to Windows, but it seems to be accepting the new signal.

How can I tell that my panel is actually displaying 72 Hz rather than bullshitting in software?
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>>52587577
Buy a super slow-mo camera and film your display.
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>>52587632
Anything less expensive?
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>>52587764
Buy an iPhone and use it's Slo-mo feature.
Alternatively
Rig your monitor to emit light in the x-ray and get several x-ray films, see how many films get burnt in one second.
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>>52586199
>Doesn't it look like plastic/artificial picture?
No, even at 800% I'm having trouble seeing much difference between spline36/Jinc in pattern. Though I do notice two areas where it's been extended much brighter. So I might just go with Jinc.
Seems I have to move the GPU queue to at least 12 not to drop frames in exclusive mode, even though nothing's close to maxed.
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>>52587577


http://www.testufo.com/#test=framerates
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>>52584141
>Main
MPC-HC, always works, good smart design
>Back-up
Potplayer, really like it, but it dose crash really often on my PC
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>>52587956
>Seems I have to move the GPU queue to at least 12 not to drop frames in exclusive mode
Update: It seems that was because I had GPU-Z logging in the background. It would dip the render queue to ~4 from 16. Without GPU-Z it's a solid "15-16/16"
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>>52588047
Also, closing and re-opening GPU-Z with MPC-HC playing resulted in a hard lock, twice. That's impressive. I haven't had one of those in years.
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>>52584141
10+ years using VLC
never had any issue with it

that sums up my experience
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Best config for mpv these days?

Using openglhq+lanczossharp (up/down/chroma)+deband atm
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>>52584856
The default is opengl which should run fine on any toaster that has opengl 2.0 support
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>used to use VLC like I'm some woman or something
>see the mpv threads
>decide "hey why not?"
>try it. Barely had to install it
>made my config according to my system in 5 mins
>plays everything perfectly and now I play all my web videos like YouTube with it.

Holy shit I can't believe I used VLC for that long.
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>>52588159
I just use opengl. Just werks. Fuck using anything else.
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>>52588226
Why even bother posting your worthless opinion?
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For now mpv renderer seems to be the best in quality.
But madvr has performance tweaks that make your shitty toaster running complex algorithms.
However all these tweaks introduce major picture regressions.
There are some problems with windows gpu drivers and opengl but almost no problem on linux.
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>>52584281
it uses mpv to play videos, right?
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mpv or the like (baka, cmplayer, etc..)
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Have they fixed the tearing on windows version of mpv?
Do I still need the dwmflush:windowed?
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>>52588183
I just use
vo=opengl-hq
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>>52588347
Fixed long time ago. :)
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>>52588347
>windows

there's your problem :)
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>>52588453
Sounds like a mpv problem to me :)
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VLC is still the best

All you millennial memefaggots on /g/ are just tryhard fucktards who use desktop linux and think they are cool because they built a desktop with water cooling

Too bad /g/ users' opinions are even shittier than their lives, which mostly entails going to a college and learning entry-level C++

All of you make me sick. I wish there was some word to describe how fucking stupid all of /g/ is.
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>>52588479
>C++
Sorry, but I only learned Ruby. :)
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I spent a few hours with mpv and it's a good player. Its motion interpolation is about the best available, but I hate that shit and only looked out of curiosity. I'd rather clock my display to a multiple of 24 hz or use 3:2 pulldown. Nice that it has reclock built-in and everything is in a self-contained package. Very fast too.

Image scaling is good but no better than madvr really. Either way you want 64 NNEDI3 neurons doubling luma and chroma, then 8-tap jinc downscaling. My GTX 970 runs both smoothly.

I also played around with a windows-based player called MPDN. It has the same scaling options as mpv and madvr, plus very good smoothmotion. Nice GUI for chaining together video scalers and filters. It was a bit slow to load files though. Decent player, but its only edge is the easy setup. Good for dumb people who want modern image quality. You could give this to a vlc user. No idea how well it runs on toasters.

Looks like I'll stick with mpc/madvr. I like the interface and, for me, the new alternatives offer no improvement.

Has any other notable playback software come out lately?
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>>52585028
Here is your answer >>52588479
Real life example of a retard. Watch and learn.
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I use default mpc hc with no addons and I see no fuckups

Why use anything else
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>>52588560
>Either way you want 64 NNEDI3 neurons doubling luma and chroma, then 8-tap jinc downscaling
Stopped reading right there.
If you are creating bait, at least apply yourself.
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>>52588560
>tscale=robidouxsharp
>ao=wasapi:exclusive

for what purpose?
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>>52587577
I've also forced my 60hz display to go up to 77hz and the result was unbelievably choppy. You probably shouldn't use display modes the manufacturer didn't specify.

>>52587865
>Rig your monitor to emit light in the x-ray and get several x-ray films, see how many films get burnt in one second.

enjoy your cancer
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>>52588560
The developers of madvr and mpv port existing scaling algorithms, so they should be identical.
The main advantage of mpv is its modern development workflow with available source.

Now madshi is preparing paid/premium only features and I am very exited to know more about them.
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>>52588755
Results will vary depending on your monitor's panel and controller. Mine is quite smooth at 72 Hz aside from the motion blur.

>>52588660
Looks gr8 m8. I have the cycles to waste.

>>52588651
to get good image scaling

>>52588687
sexual pleasure

>>52588626
literally the worst player for the worst people
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>>52588841
I'm quite satisfied with what I have now, but I would have gladly paid for it if there were no free equivalent. Thanks for the tip, I will wait warmly.
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>>52588894
>to waste
Even you realize it's a waste.
Literally placebo.
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>>52588894
>literally the worst player for the worst people
What? You mean VLC? I know that, that was my point. Anon asked why people praise VLC, I pointed him out to what kind of people praise VLC to make it easy to understand.
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>>52588926
Overkill is not bad here. It means I don't have to worry for a moment about scaling quality.

>>52588935
...yes, i understood that.
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>>52588479
I use mpv on Windows and I love it. Better than MPC-HC.
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someone post some mpv configs or scripts
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>>52589567
Don't use other people's configs you moron. Figure it out and customize it to your system. That's the whole point.
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>>52589513
she looks like a girl I shagged when camping with friends
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>>52589639
It's not that I want to use them I'm just curious to see what others use.
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does meme player volume go to 200% with mouse roll by default like vlc?
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>>52589678
https://mpv.io/manual/master/#options-softvol-max

read the manual anon
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>>52589639
but the fun of mpv is looking at other peoples configs and hearing the justifications for their retarded settings
especially when they are trying to troubleshoot because an mpv update broke a feature the dev team deemed obsolete
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Hello, can you tell me how can i find the config file of mpv in windows 8.1, no matter what i do i have not find it even in roaming/mpv/mpv conf.

I got the 64 bits version.

Would appreciate help.
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>>52589708
I was going to throw a man link at you but it looks like even the devs didn't account for your stupidity.

You are supposed to create the mpv.conf file and place it into one of the directories mpv reads. It doesn't make one automatically for you.
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>>52589747
thank you, i did not knew this.
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# Video 
#vo=opengl-hq:scale=ewa_lanczossharp:cscale=ewa_lanczossharp:scaler-resizes-only:dither-depth=8:temporal-dither:interpolation:tscale=mitchell:source-shader=~~/shaders/deband.glsl
vo=opengl-hq:interpolation:scale=ewa_lanczossharp:cscale=ewa_lanczos:tscale=triangle:tscale-clamp
border=no
vd-lavc-threads=4
hwdec=no
framedrop=vo
ao=wasapi

Just finished this did I do anything wrong or can be approved on? I also heard nnedi3 is pretty unstable in mpv or has that changed?
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>>52589698
>--softvol-max=<100.0-1000.0>
>130 is twice as loud as 100
>maximum is 1000

how loud is 1000?
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>>52584141
So what happened to all the MPV shills? They run out of money? There used to be a general everyday.
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>>52589702
It's sad that people are this retarded. They can't even use a fucking video player. It's pathetic.
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>>52589807
if you want to use interpolation on the current ver. of mpv you need to specify a --video-sync mode and a --display-fps

https://mpv.io/manual/master/#video-output-drivers-interpolation
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>tfw you fell for the ultrabook meme and you can't properly utilize madvr because your shitty cpu has to upscale to 3200x1800 so you're forced to use evr or vlc or mpv-opengl
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>>52589826
wouldn't that be 100% clipping?
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>>52589875
if you are stuck at 60 hz, add --video-sync:display=resample

if you don't specify a sync method, interpolation will do nothing

ideally you would have interpolation=no with your monitor's refresh rate a multiple of the video frame rate - usually 24
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>>52589875
So can I use video-sync=display-resample? Also, I don't what to do with display-fps. Do I set it to my monitors refresh rate?
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>>52589949
This is >>52589950 I'm using an 144hz monitor so what should I use?
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>>52589907
>buying an ultrabook

Who does this other than retards and housewives?
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>>52589950
personally I use display-vdrop since I find the resample options to mess with the audio, but feel free to experiment.

And yes display-fps should be equal to your monitors refresh rate otherwise you are going to have a bad time.
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>>52587577
So, you're trying to overclock your monitor, is that what you're saying? Even if it accepts the signal there's no assurance that it isn't dropping frames or doing some other weird shit.

Just use 48Hz (since 48<60), you don't need 72Hz to watch 24FPS video. MPC-HC/madvr can switch refresh rate automatically for you, just define the custom resolution in your graphics card's driver, both AMD and NVIDIA support this IIRC.
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>>52589998
Thanks anon I'll give display-vdrop a try. Anything else I can do to improve my vo?

vo=opengl-hq:interpolation:scale=ewa_lanczossharp:cscale=ewa_lanczos:tscale=triangle:tscale-clamp 
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>>52590020
tfw when your monitor refuses to display lower than 50Hz
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>>52590061
forgot pic
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>>52590061
Well, that sucks. Mine can do 24Hz too, but moving the mouse pointer is just painful in that case, so I use 48Hz instead.

I wish there was a way to get FreeSync to work properly, but changing refresh rate is fine too since I haven't ever had a variable FPS video.
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>>52590028
aside from interpolation and icc profiles, the opengl-hq defaults gives you pretty much the best settings
using anything on top of that is either for placebo or to accommodate specific hardware setups
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>>52584141
Get decent PC tard.
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>>52586199
NEEDI3 exist, poorfag.
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>>52589997
and silly first year students
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Is anyone compiling mpv for windows with hrtf and bs2b?
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How can I monitor dropped frames and rendering times in mpv?
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>>52590470
You really should spend half an hour reading the mpv manual from start to finish.
You will then know if your problem can be answered by referencing the manual.

Unless you like having people send you links to the same manual repeatedly.
https://mpv.io/manual/master/#terminal-status-line
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I've been using Zoom Player for years. Is this not dank enough for /g?
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>>52584894
DVD's aren't HD you silly goose!
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>>52588203
holy shit i can't believe you were unaware you're a retarded hipster for so long
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>>52584141
Pot Player vs MPC-BE? (Using madvr)

No reclock because I want to stay 64 bit and fuck it.

Having difficulty deciding how to set madvr to best upscale shitty ripped porn streams, have it working well for full hd content though, but the content already looks good as is.
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Which is better: MPC-HC or MPC-BE?

I can't work out the differences.
Also I don't watch anime or need to upscale 240p cartoons to 1080p, I'm just interested in base player features or w/e.
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>>52592157
Just use mpv
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>>52592157
MPC-HC is more stable
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>>52584141
vlc > no problems ever. (It didn't have H.265 for a while but nothing else did either)
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>>52592157
mpc-be has a thumbnail preview when you hover over the timeline. It's also as dark as your soul. That's about it.
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>>52589567
> For shitty netbooks:
vo=opengl:sharpen=0.7
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Having some problems on linux using xf86-video-ati as my driver on an r9 390, I could easily run the opengl-hq config and more but now any scaling introduced outside of the default opengl seems to introduce white artifacting in video.
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>>52595128
use the free drivers anon.
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Is there a way to diable autoresize to fit screen in mpv in windows? I have screen res 1280x1024 and the videofiles in 720p are downscaled a bit to fit window with border into screen. And i dont want a borderless window.
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>>52595148
Mesa alone?
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>>52595207
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI
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>>52595217
It had worked perfectly on xf86-video-ati but has been artifacting recently, same deal with xf86-video-ati. Both these are the opensource drivers, not really sure what to do at the moment. Might post a bug report if its just me with this.
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>>52595426
you tested amdgpu then? would be worth a bug report then.
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>>52588331
Yeah it uses the library, so you can just put an MPV.conf in the directory and have all your fancy ewa resampling filters
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>>52595626
Yeah same deal, rebooted with each driver just to be sure problems present with ati alone and amdgpu alone. Might be hardware but had no issues with video games on my windows partition. Might try chuck mpv on windows to see if its hardware related. If that doesn't fix it I'll post something on the github. Thanks anyway for the help.
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>>52584281
Is this thing even out yet for free, other than compiling it yourself?
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>>52595828
which distro and kernel version (uname -v)?
because i have no problems with the same gpu on debian testing SMP Debian 4.3.3-5 with amdgpu.
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Latest stable kernel on Arch, 4.3 something no acess to my machine atm. Speaking of which I think this problem appeared around when I went from 4.2 to 4.3, might be worth down grading.
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>>52595907
or upgrading to 4.4, it's the LTS kernel.
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>>52595917
Thanks I'll grab it from the testing repos and see how it goes.
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>>52590573
Yes, absolutely true. In my defense, I wanted to know if I dropped frames before looking into mpv further; if I did, I would stop using it before delving into the documentation further
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>>52584141
wow more generals

what the fuck
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>>52595188
Have you read https://mpv.io/manual/master/ yet?
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>>52585028
/g/ praises VLC?

am I in Bizarro /g/?
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>>52596080
Sections about vo and window for that matter - yes. Nothing usefull in vo and stuff in window does not realy help. I dont want neither no-border nor fixed geometry, and autofit options will not resize widow to size bigger than screen.
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>>52595188
>And i dont want a borderless window.
Without going borderless I don't think it's possible not for the video to downscale.
Your only option would be to convert your videos to be a little smaller so they fit in the screen with mpv's window borders.
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>>52595917
>>52596030
Sadly no luck, tried 4.4 from testing same problem sadly. Ill try 4.2.4 which is the one I was previously on I believe and see how that goes.
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>>52589907
>not going with the UX305 with the core lMao for $500 with student discount
>getting anything other than 1080p or 1440p at that size
I ran MPC-HC for a while, but then I installed Debian and never looked back. mpv looks crispy.
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>>52596227
It was actualy working that way - if video size was bigger than screen it was not downscaled automaticaly in some erlier releases (back in 2014 i think). Then they "fixed" it, so i hoped there will be an option for this.
Coversion is not an option realy, its easier to just go fullscreen.
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mpvfags, do you have audio receivers? I have an optical cable going straight to the receiver and almost blew the neighborhood out with chinese cartoon porn. The built in audio controls seem to use the overall system audio, butthe receiver doesn't give a fuck. Any pointers?
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>>52597946
If it's by optical cable, the receiver should be where you control the volume
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>>52598033
I don't mind using the remote to control the audio, but then I would have very low audio on the system with music players and whatnot.
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>>52598084
Not sure what you mean. Wouldn't all system audio be through your speakers so all audio is controlled by the receiver? Or do you just not want to have to use the receiver every time because if you're outputting digital I don't know how to control the level from your computer
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>>52584141
>2016
>not using light alloy
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>>52598273
I understand your doubts, I'll try too look more into it. I'm using Debian with xfce, pulse audio pops up with another volume notification when I increase the volume.
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Can I run madVR on a U processor without it turning into a thermonuclear bomb? I should mention I'm using a Surface Pro 3. If not, are there any advantages to me using MPV over MPC-HC with such a toaster?
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i just got a 970
and i cant run the same config i had on my 7850
what config should i use?

i normaly use mpc but im fine with mpv aswel

the configs run fine til i turn exclusive fullscreen mode then the entire thing freezes
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>>52585028
Who knows. I used to use it until I had the "font building cache" problem and switched to MPC-HC and have never once looked back.
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>>52596192
The really dumb people on /g/ praise VLC because its retardedly simple to use. That's also why you see women use and express their love for VLC as well.
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>>52600420
CUDA
U
D
A
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>>52601950
ur telling me to use cuda
or that cuda is shit?
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>>52602246
Use CUDA
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>>52602373
yea i tried that on mpc using lav

but it dint help
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>>52600420
What? I'm using the generic full placebo from mpv threads on my 970 just fine.
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>>52602624
yea that one probly works but im still new to mpv
and dint get the config file to work

im probly doing it super wrong tho
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>>52604103
Your desktop looks like garbage
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Divx is literally the devil. I have never encountered an online streaming Divx video that just worked.
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>>52604103
hmm got mpc to work now
just had to disable nvidia cuvid decoder
Chrome > Nnedi3 128
image down/up scale lanczos 3 taps
img doubling nnedi3 128


27ms rendering
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>>52604762
show me yours then
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> Damned mpv source code is so a mess that adding a shader becomes hell.
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/2752

> Damned mpdn died and there are absolutely no code source to continue.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=171120

> Damned madvr became a 3d shit renderer, billions of bugs...
http://bugs.madshi.net/view_all_bug_page.php
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>>52604886
If you watch shitty SD content, it's normal.
But we are in 2015 and hevc main10 is very popular on private trackers.
No recent gpu can handle these files with even bicubic75 madvr chroma upscaling algo.
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>>52605397
>mpdn died

shocker!
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>>52584141
Was recommended VLC a year ago. Never had any problems with it
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>>52605471
i only watch high bitrate bluray remux or big encodes ( 3gb+ a episode)

or horriblesubs if its airing show
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>>52584894
>it's somehow not playing them in HD
maybe because it's a fucking DVD?
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>>52605991
hahahahhaha
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profile=pseudo-gui
--sub-codepage=utf8:ISO-8859-9
# vo=opengl:interpolation:deband=no
# video-sync=display-resample
save-position-on-quit
hwdec=videotoolbox

ytdl-format=bestvideo[height<=?720]+bestaudio/best


[extension.jpg]
pause

[extension.png]
pause

[extension.gif]
loop-file=inf

[extension.webm]
loop-file=inf


opengl-hq works like shit in osx and other filters requires so much. interpolation unnecessarily drains battery so I comment them while using on battery
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>>52606567
>opengl-hq works like shit in osx
Works fine here, both on a 2.54Ghz C2D Hackintosh w/9600M running Mavericks and a 2015 15" Macbook Pro w/M370X running El Capitan. What problems are you seeing?
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I'm running gnome/wayland and for whatever reason mpv doesn't black out the screen when fullsized. I.e. a letterboxed movie will have the bottom half of the desktop visible.

Is there a solution?
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>>52606700
no him, but I had to settle for the less-fancy upscaling options on a haswell MBA with intel 5000 graphics.

I think it's the intel graphics drivers in OSX, somehow.
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>>52607187
>>52606567

Try this for OS X:

 vo=opengl:scale=spline36:cscale=spline36:scale-antiring=0.6:dscale=mitchell:dither-depth=auto:correct-downscaling:sigmoid-upscaling:icc-profile-auto:deband:blend-subtitles:tscale=oversample:tscale-clamp:interpolation:es=no:swapinterval=1
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>>52605471
>hevc main10
>No recent gpu can handle these files with even bicubic75 madvr chroma upscaling algo.
Of course they can, unless you're using HW decoding on your GPU, which only the 960 can do with Main 10
Upscaling has nothing to do with decoding, it doesn't matter in which format it is, unless you're using HW decoding and your GPU does decoding with it's shaders
Anyways
>using HW decoding outside of mobile
>ever
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>>52606567
>. interpolation unnecessarily drains battery so I comment them while using on battery
There's a script that can change VO automagically depending if you're on battery or not, iirc it's available for OS X and for *nix
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>>52608872
HW decoding is pretty nice when you're on an iGPU desu senpai.
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>>52584141
t420 here what do you recommend ?
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Itt animedditors and poorfags

pathetic
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>>52595188
>tthese are the mpv shills

lel so poor
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>>52608872
why is hw decoding bad

i use it with lav and mpchc
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>>52611499
poorfags with toasters
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>use mpv
>no fucking volume slider on the gui
Thanks for the memeplayer /g/, I'm back to VLC.
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>>52611575
>no fucking volume slider on the gui

Just use your mousewheel you fucking chode.
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>>52611575
MOUSE_BTN3 add volume 2
MOUSE_BTN4 add volume -2
in input.conf
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>>52611575
Keep your VLC you piece of shit.
>>
mpv on Windows, opengl-hq used to be fine, since some update couple months ago is dropping a lot of frames.
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>>52612421
Try vo=opengl:dwmflush=no
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Best possible mpv config for i7 920 / GTX 770 / 6gb ram?
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>>52612528
oh and also, running windows 109, if that makes a difference.
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>>52612476
Still dropping frames, although less than without dwmflush=no.
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>>52612528
buy new parts
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>>52613009
Poorfag, so not an option atm.
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>>52612421
lol
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>>52584141
What is a good config for mpv on a 2nd gen Intel i7 (Sandy Bridge) with HD 3000 graphics? I mostly play 720p movies and tv shows so I want to play around and see what gives the best picture quality
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>>52616072
vo=opengl-hq
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