Why don't you care about your health and use a Evoluent

i think vertical mouse is counter-natural

>>52581317
Jokes aside Im dirt poor and I barely saved up for $200 laptop.

>>52581362
It is natural.

>>52581317
I've heard people even manage to play videogames (even Quake Live) with trackballs
I'd love to try one, I think I'm gonna get a Kensington Orbit, and if I like it, a CST model

>>52583751
tfw have a CST

its so nice brehs

>>52584146
I don't know if I'm jelly yet

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>>52581317
>Why don't you care about your health
But I do

>>52581317
>Joking aside, I'm wondering why these aren't what everyone uses if they're so comfortable to use.
the same reason why for many years people stuck with IE6 and almost everyone thinks google=internet.
Mouse is the default.

>>52584160
you will be. It's the MX Master of Trackballs. Built like a tank, ridiculously huge, got a pool ball sized ball.

Seriously, this thing is the best /g/ related purchase I've made in years

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>>52581317

Are there cheap trackballs that are worthwhile?

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>not 420 quickscoping plebs comfortably with your kensington expert trackball and your natural ergonomic 4000

It's like you people don't know how to live.

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yes

>>52584266
there is that $20 logitech one. it works fine. the kensington expert is supposed to be god-tier and it's like $60

>>52581317
I mouse with both hands. That should be adequate.

>>52584214
So I should go straight to the CST ? My wallet will fucking kill me

What's so special about a CST?

>>52584312
it worth it. Plus, if you go from their website, you can get either the regular black one, the same with extra switches and or blue LEDs. Or I think there's one with a clear housing and always the lmao beige ones.

Honestly, they'll save your wrists.

>>52584266
Logitech M570
Kensington Orbit With Scroll Ring
Logitech Marble (if you don't mind not having a dedicated scroll)

>>52581317
I don't think I would be able to switch, I'm just too used to mouse. Casual browsing and shit would be fine but occasional gayman not so much, would have to relearn all that muscle memory.

>>52584519
It's pretty natural.

>>52584519
it shouldn't take more than a week or so.
If you've ever used a fingertip grip mouse - then you can quite easily switch to a finger trackball. The movement is quite similar, you just have to get used to left-clicking with your thumb.
If you've ever used a game pad, then a thumb trackball should be extremely easy to get used to - your thumbs already know how to control things, and you click like on a normal mouse.

>>52583751
a friend of mine only use a trackball. he almost exclusively play twitch shooters (quake, UT, he played a fair bit of loadout and did a few competition on TF2) and i never seen him miss by a huge margin, he's always on target it's unbelievable. but he can't use a mouse for shit, i guess it's just habits.

>>52584409
have a looksie for yourself

http://clearlysuperiortech.com/ltracproductchart.html

>>52581317
Vertical mice are bad for you. I really want to get an ergonomic IBM keyboard.

I really like my kensington slimblade

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>>52584179
this
/thread

>>52584417
Is there a better model over the others or are they all pretty much the same ?

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>>52581317
Six button trackball with multiple speed options for general use and yes gaming. Even has a nice speed slow button for those fine details or tricky headshots.

If you actually think a trackball can't game and do work your a sad sad bastard. Elecom FTW.

>>52581317
I have a trackball is pretty comfy.

I use that or magic Trackpad, can't return to normal mice

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>>52581362
>I don't know human anatomy

>>52585521
only difference between models is having a scroll wheel or LEDs. I'd recomend the scroll wheel but I know some people dislike LEDs.

Also the beige one looks hilarious

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Is using my body at all to do anything bad for me? Should just remain dormant in my ergo-chair using my ergo-mouse and ergo-keyboard to browse ergo-sites while making sure my screen is ergonomically placed and height-adjusted for my eyes while also wearing protective eye-goggles and standing like pic related?

>>52584312
I got mine (not that anon) from Massdrop, so you can keep an eye there in case another drop comes.

>>52585567
I originally posted this image on 4chan

>>52585567
Does this mean I should never rest my hands flat on a table because it will kill me?

>>52585845
yes

>>52585845
You should generally try to remain in fetal position all your life and refrain from sudden movements. It's the most natural way.

>>52585567
>arm twisted in some dramatic fashion
>like its not perfectly natural
>complete with dramatic red twisted text
zoz

>>52585919
ask software devs who are in their 50's whether or not they wish they used something like a vertical mouse or track ball. they all have carpal tunnel syndrome now and have to deal with it for the rest of their lives you dumb faggot

I use a kinesys freestyle 2 and a logitech marble mouse at work. They both took some getting used to. They're both fine for working now that I'm used to them.

>>52585959
most of them seem fine to me

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>>52585959
Affirmative.

>>52584268
is it actually better

>>52586101
of course it is, that's the whole reason they still exist.

>>52585491
>Vertical mice are bad for you.
really? in what way?

>>52586342
he's le maymay-ing

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did i do good, /g/?

>>52586627
nice

>>52583751
It's difficult but doable.
You can't use weapons or perform any actions that require both accuracy and precision at high speed.

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>>52586627
Last mouse you will ever buy

>>52586727
how is it any better than a Kensington Expert?

>>52581317
I bought a trackball which I really, really like. Unfortunately it doesn't have a scrollwheel or anything comparable, which I really, really miss. I wish I spent an extra 20 dollars to get something with one, I would actually use a trackball if I did.

>>52586727
>>52586808
it isn't. there isn't a scrollwheel anywhere and its a pain in the ass to use because of it

>>52586840
>there isn't a scrollwheel anywhere
but there is one

>>52586840
...so why did someone just get shilled to buy one >>52586627 if it's not as good as a $60 Kensington Expert?

>>52586812
is it the Logitech Marble?
Can't you just set one of the small buttons to act as a toggle for the ball to switch between tracking/scrolling?

>>52586857
>>52586858
oh i didn't notice the one on the left. I am talking about the logitech. I assumed that was the only mouse there since he said 'this is the last mouse you will ever buy' but turns out he actually did buy another mouse and I don't really understand it

fuck my health. using an ergonomic keyboard is too hard to get used to and is uncomfortable.
trackballs are also uncomfortable to use.

>>52586864
no, logitech trackman. >>52586727
right in this picture. there probably is a way to configure the forward and back buttons to function that way, but that would take away other functionality like of course, forward and back. those are the only two buttons beside the left and right click which are obviously even more important than the scrollwheel.

there isn't even a middle click, you won't be able to paste without keyboard in *nix environments or scroll through pages with autoscrolling, you would need to drag the scrollbar or constantly switch between keyboard and mouse for small tasks

>>52584409
literally the model m of trackballs, except it's still being manufactured without any concessions (unlike unicomp boards)

>>52586812
>it doesn't have a scrollwheel
You can set one of the small buttons to act as either the third mouse button or to scroll.

You need to download the "app" from the Logitech site.

>>52586893
>I assumed that was the only mouse there

Well, it is a shitty photo, sorry for that. Is just to compare the size of the CST to the Logitech one.

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>>52586908
>using an ergonomic keyboard is uncomfortable.
>trackballs are also uncomfortable
but that's not true at all

I don't like the trackballs at all, but I wouldn't mind a trackpoint kind of deal instead. I'd also be open to a vertical mouse but I don't see the point in using either until I have RSI or carpal tunnel.

Does anyone here actually use an ergonomic keyboard? I'm curious because they're all membrane I think.

>>52586971
just buy http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453597985&sr=8-1&keywords=thinkpad+keyboard

>>52586942
Yeah, I meant that one. Logitech Trackman Marble.
I've had it for a while, had the left small button configured to scroll, the right small button configured to middle click.
I never felt the need to have forward/back buttons on a pointing device. Once I had a mouse at work that had forward/back buttons by default, under the thumb, and I hated it a lot, I never pressed them on purpose, but at least a few times I clicked the back button on accident, I ended up installing the mouse software just to disable those buttons.
Unfortunately, I don't remember if it can be set to act as a proper scroll lock, or if you have to keep the button pressed for scrolling, which, considering it's size and placement, isn't comfortable.

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>>52586971
>I don't see the point in using either until I have RSI or carpal tunnel.
you use a trackball/vertical mouse to reduce the risk of getting those things. And believe me, RSI is a shitty thing to have.

>>52586983
>Does anyone here actually use an ergonomic keyboard?
I use Microsoft sculpt ergonomic, but I actually like low profile membrane keys, as long as they're properly clicky

>I'm curious because they're all membrane I think.
No, there are mechanical ones too. Ergodox and Kinesis come to mind first, but there are a few more.

>>52587065
i will give that a try, thanks anon.

>>52581317

Because I just bought a CM Storm Xornet mouse for like $25 a few weeks ago and it's great.

>tfw about to buy a mechanical keyboard but now second guessing for my health

dammit

>>52587261
mechanical ergos exist too ya dingus

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>>52587261
>why not do both

>>52587366
that thing looks less like a keyboard and more like a control console

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>>52587485
it does, a bit.
It's Ergodox, you build it yourself to your liking

Wanna hear a joke?

Ergonomic mice