Mechanical pencil/pen thread

>>52578581
The purpose of a mechanical pencil is to hold and push carbon rods.
Why the fuck would you give a fuck about the brand or pay more than the least for it?

fuck

>>52578887
This. These threads are almost as useless as "MECHANICAL KEYBOARD" threads.

>>52578581
So this is what autism does to you.

Last time I bought a rotring was over 20 years ago.

>>52578581

>keyboards
>pencils
>watches
>guts threads
>"battle" (sloth) station

These consumerist threads are getting out of hand.

I borrowed a Pentel PG1007 and I still have it.

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Just received my first Pentel Graphgear 1000 in the mail yesterday. Import edition from Japan, nonetheless.
I absolutely love it so far.

I got the rapid pro in .5 and it's very good, doubt I'll ever have to buy a pencil again.

>>52578985
God tier pencil, still have mine from years ago.

>>52578581
>falling for the shitty rotring meme
>0 features to make them any better from any pencil with a metal shell

Arguably giving some extra money for a sturdy metal pencil is a good deal, mostly because it feels sturdy in your hand. I have some cheap noname and while light, it feels flimsy to draw with, even if I do mostly drafting. I been thinking about buying some full metal body pencil, but I don't understand the hype for rotring, it doesn't do much to cover the ridiculous cost.

>>52578965

>being a thief

>>52578985

>those high school level derivatives

>>52578581
These are drafting pencils.

They are designed to be used with a straight-edge.

>>52578887
Well, I purchased a Pentel GraphGear 1000 for $9 after the last thread and I must say it is the best writing utensil I've ever used. The lead is supported in a way that cheap mechanicals don't even bother to do and this leads to a dramatic decrease in snapped lead. I went from 0.7mm to 0.5mm and it still owns. I'm glad the last thread appeared so that I took a chance on buying one.

>>52578581
As someone who used cheap chink shit before and now uses rotring 600, the money is definitely well spend

if you're technician, student, or artist
otherwise it's obviously useless

who uni kuru toga here?

>>52578581
It's good if you're in a position where you have to use a pencil a lot. It's god tier if you do drafting by hand for some reason. Don't drop it tip first, the sleeve is the Achilles heel of that thing. Replacement tips are available but only in 0,5 mm IIRC. 0,5 is better than 0,7. Enjoy.

>ITT: Pentel & Rotring shilling
I bet it's pentel shilling but opening with rotring so it isn't as obvious.

I'm onto you!

>>52578887
It's clear as day you've never used a quality mechanical pencil.
I've a staedtler 925-25 (20$) and it just never jams. The lead never breaks. It doesn't rotate. It never fails to come out. It never fails to retract.
I honestly feel like I will be able to pass out down to my grandchildren if I'll ever have a family.
That's how study it feels compared to a cheap 2$ pencil that you'll have to replace countless times during your lifetime.

>>52581024
I'm almost sold!
Please tell me more about this awesome product!
Can I pay it in installments, is there an offer where if I buy one now I get the second one free, where's the toll free number?

>>52578581
Rotring is for cucks

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>>52578581
I have a set of graphgear 1000s and 500s, a set of alvin draftmatics, a set of Pentel p200s, a PG5, a Staedtler Mars Technico, and a Faber Castell TK 4600. I have switched over to using my lead holders for most of my pencil writing, because I can get very fine lines. I use 2MM 7H lead and it works great.

Eh, I used rotring technical pens in hs for drafting... That was pretty neat but I can't see what a mechanical pencil like that would offer other than better than a good build quality.

>>52581024
plastic is superior b/c it's more lightweight and you therefore you can write faster with it

/thread

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>>52578581
>He bought a rotring 600 instead pf a redcircle 600

>>52583828
what brand of fedora do you wear?
Do you write poetry about dragons with that?

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I have one of these. Self-sharpening and can write on most surfaces incredibly well, including glass. Not as fine tipped as you would expect from mechanical pencils but does the job perfectly.

>>52584122
>can write on surfaces incredibly well
What the fuck are you talking about what does that have to do with the body?

>>52578887
The purpose of a car is to bring you from point A to point B.
Why the fuck would you give a fuck about the brand or pay more than the least for it?

>>52579125
Eh probaby repairing snall engine

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>>52583828
>that jinhao
>that nib

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I enjoy all of my Rotrings, but I'm partial to my Faber-Castells.

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I love my pen :)

.9mm master race...

>>52580118
I am!
I have seven of them.
Alpha-Gel 0.5, High grade 0.5 ×2, Sky Tree limited edition 0.5, Standard 0.5, Standard 0.3, Roulette ×2
I only regularly use the Alpha Gel one.

>>52583828
I didn't know they made Lamy Safari knockoffs.
Aren't they cheap enough already?

>>52586796
>.9mm
THIS.

>>52586670
cheekiness aside I had a sp4 for a bit and the pen was really nice to use

What is the point of these expensive pen/pencils?

>>52587329
It's amusingly naive to think that £15 is too cheap for the chinese to try and copy. They make copies of the Hero 616, a £1 pen
>>52587569
fun.

>>52580118
I tried one, but I found that I got sharper lines by manually rotating the pencil. I just automatically rotate mechanical pencils without even thinking about it.

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>>52578581

>>52587329
>>52587878
That clone is the jinhao 599. It sells for around $1.

>>52578955
the average consumer just get what they found at wal mart
>>52578965
Everybody with a minimum of importance steal pens once putin told to an oligarch to give him back his pen.

I'm still using the same $5 pack of bic mechanical pencils that I bought in 2008. You're all foolish.

>>52583828
How good are the redcircles? They seem to be exact clones of the newer rotrings with plastic internals.

>using any mechanical pencil but the sharpwriter
why?

>>52578887
pretty much this

I understand forking out for a fountain pen, you can get gold plated ones for $99 on amazon right now:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000VR7XEI/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=W2J62BSMSDFI&coliid=I1CXPIB7GMNG9C

they're classy and a conversation piece. they *look* like they're expensive. but a mechanical pencil? why?

come to think of it, i haven't used a pencil in years LOL

>>52578985
>high-school derivatives
>shitty hand writing

I would make fun of you but you're basically me from two years ago.

>>52578985
What's the point of having a nice pencil when you write like shit?

>>52586492
And a fucking Realforce too, christ anon. How much do you make?

why don't we start having printing press threads too, those are technology!

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>the two thousand and sixteenth year of our Lord, the Christ, the Lamb of God
>not using based bic

>>52586492
What's the bottom pencil?

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>>52578581
used steadler pencil when I drafted on paper, nice because they are fast to swap lead types.

cant imagine a non drafter wanting a drafting pencil with drafting graphite. drafting graphite is like 2-3m thick and requires you to rotate the pencil as you draw lines to keep the line width correct (the lead wears down and becomes wider and wider)

Does anyone have a staedtler 925 and a rotring 600? I was thinking about getting a rotring and was wondering how it would feel compared to my staedtler.

>>52582931
>using 4B 2mm leads because they were the cheapest
>gets really dull in literally just a couple minutes
guess I should have gotten H leads

Thoughts on uni-ball? Thinking of getting this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0026ICM1E

>>52589504
Bic is unclean use Papermate Sharpwriters.

>>52584260
Exactly!

>>52589686
Harder leads are best for leadholders in my experience. Hard leads keep their point the longest. I found that 7H Koh-i-noor lead works best for me. It is the hardest I can go before it starts ripping paper. That is the lead that is pictured in my comparison.

This lead takes a month to ship, but it is good and only $5.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/331668839767

>>52589349
Not him, but good pencils make my writing a bit less horrible. I use leadholders to get the thinnest line possible and it improves my writing somewhat.

I really need to find some .3 pencils.

>>52589505

That looks like a Fisher space pen, the matte bullet one.

>>52589971
Pentel makes a few good .3mm pencils. I have the p203, the Graphgear 500, and the graphgear 1000 in .3mm. I also have an alvin .3mm pencil, but it seems to be lower quality compared to my matching set of alvin pencils in other sizes.

>>52578581
Install gentoo

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I've been using these korean TUL pencils, and i'm not autistic so i didn't order it direct from korea, i got it from officemax or something

anyways the thing is, this brand somehow is able to automatically advance the lead.

you don't really notice how sweet that is until you go back to a different brand. TUL for life

>>52584260
Because if you don't have a precision machined all-steel body it's going to break down in the middle of alaska, right?

A rotring's tip is just as likely to bend and become nonfunctional as any other drafting pencil's. But at least the body won't crack or scratch to no ill effect, right?

>>52590057
i'm sure it's considered pleb tier by /g/ though

truth be told it has jammed on me a couple times too.

>>52590057
That's cool. I wonder what the mechanism looks like.

>choosing anything other than a parker pen

>>52590363
I EDC a Parker pen with a space pen cartridge. I got it used, because they moved all of their factories from Janesville WI to China.

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>>52578581
pencil == technology
did you make it to grade 1 OP

Hopefully you will get one that turns to a dildo and starts raping you violently while taking your tests.

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Whenever I write letters to family and friends that moved away, I use a Pilot Plumix. Eventually I will get a calligraphy pen for the envelope, but this does just fine.

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>>52589299
I'm annoyed. I spent like 6 hours researching what kind of fountain pen I should buy. Picked one perfect for my needs, then I realized I would regret spending $40 on a pen, even though it looks classy as fuck and can do calligraphy.

>>52578581
Rotring 600 is at the top of the food chain, nothing I've ever used compares to it. So you made a good choice.

the only pencil I use is Pentel twist erase III .5

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>>52583828
>He spent all his money on an imported mechanical pencil and settled for a laptop with that disgusting keyboard

>>52591583
That thing is like three fiddy, it's a chinkshit copy of the Rotring 600
The white one is even cheaper, it's a chinkshit copy of the already cheap Lamy Safary

>>52591625
Then theres no excuse for that keyboard.

>>52591651
He fell for the modern Thinkpad scam instead of following the cheaper and better older Thinkpad meme

>>52578581

Why are nerds so obsessed with mechanical pencils?

I say this as a nerd who, when he was young, excitedly bought a nice machined aluminum, Japanese drafting pencil.

>>52590923

>Oh, Mother, look, we got a letter!
>Who's it from, granddad?
>It's from Tryhard.

Be careful. Rotrings break incredibly easily. I switched to Pentel and am better for it.

>>52591904
>being a nigger who can't read proper handwriting
ayy lmao

>>52591925

>implying I'm not old enough to have learned cursive in school

I later realized that printing was just as fast (the fastest writing is a modified print form) and tremendously more legible to all who read it.

>>52586492
>HB lead
>drafting pencils
>HB lead

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>>52591904
>getting this upset over fountain pens and mechanical pencils

maybe ur retard?

>>52591997

>views any dissent as someone upset

I found the precious Millennial.

Don't worry, snowflake, you're in a safe space.

>>52578581
I only fuck with the .35mm rotring 6hunna nigga. Real motherfuvkin talk I sold my .7mm and .5mm because .35mm is turnt up cuz.

>>52592017
I'm game.

Name three negatives to putting more thought into stationary besides price.

>>52592065
>>52581024

>>52592089
>those are negatives

maybe ur retard?

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>>52578581
This really is the pinnacle of gearfagging.

I bet most of you don't actually write nor draw, as per fucking usual. You're surely too busy arguing about the ideal paper to use it on

>>52589750
Go for it, it's great.
I do prefer using Ain leads with them.

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Bow the the master, chumps.

>>52593372
>shaking something that contains brittle leads

Whoever thought that up should be shot.

>>52581277
>$20
>installments
Lol get the fuck out 12 year old.

>>52592328
I don't like to use pencils when I write because I fuck up a lot and I like the option to erase.

Why not just buy some pilot G2's

>>52593476
>I'm a fucking failure of a man, please I need a failure-enabler pencil so my autism isn't triggered everytime I scratch something

Enjoy being a subhuman I guess.

>>52592065
it makes you drool over paper-gloss instead of actually writing things that matter. Basically mental masturbation which no one is enthusiastic about but you.

Is this thread fucking satire of mkg

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I never paid for a pen in my entire life. I got so much for free when working at companies, as a gift to clients, and other promotional pens, that I regularly have to sort through those and throw /give away half of it if I don't want my house to crumble under the weight.
Most are BIC pens, which are absurdly good, and I mostly use retractable pens because they're more practical. That's it.

Enjoy justifying buying expensive stationary to "save money in the long term" when I'm close to making money selling those extra pens on eBay.

>>52595222
More power to you anon.

>buying expensive stationary to "save money in the long term"
What?
I mainly do so for fun and pleasure of writing.
You've got gunfags, carfags, well, there are penfags too.
It's just a hobby, don't look too deeply into it.

>Enjoy
I will, thank you.

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>>52591444
>calligraphy
>on a fucking 'flex' stainless steel nib

>>52581024
>never jams
kinda like my $5 pentel

>>52578887

Because it looks nice, feels nice, and is generally a nicely designed thing. You know, the same reason you buy anything you don't actually really, really need. Because you enjoy it.

>all these poverty fags in this thread cant afford a rotring

0.7 rapid pro you will never need another pencil

>>52588863
I know. I've had one. In fact it's the 599A. They're actually great. The 599 is complete ass though, brass bodied which is solid and nice but the nib looks like a pilot varsity and barely works

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>>52594739
>which no one is enthusiastic about but you
>no one

>>52596422
>>52591444
My first pen was a Noodler's Ahab with a piston pump problem; my second was a Konrad with hard starts, and my third was a Pilot Metropolitan.

I HIGHLY recommend you get a Metropolitan F or Safari in EF as your first pen. The Ahab is fun (I eventually got one that works, but the standard line is too broad for my handwriting), but you do need a mainstay first. Even a $5 EF Preppy is fine.

>>52591904
Only millennial faggots feel this way.

Rotring 600 or graphgear 1000?

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2015-New-Portable-1pc-Drawing-Ultra-Fine-Line-Pen-Good-chemical-resistant-High-Quality-Pen-Painting/32408634502.html

Sakura Pigma Micron

>>52597450
I don't know about the Rotring 600, but I really like my GraphGear 1000.

>>52578581
>mechanical pencils
I don't get the Murican fascination with those. I haven't met a person in my country who doesn't consider them utter shit. Everyone prefers normal use-a-sharpener pencils instead.

>>52597630

Wooden pencils are shit.

Fuvk sharpening it everytime the lead gets dull or breaks

>>52589205
They are pretty good, though not exact copies. Comparing the two, redcircle has a less grippy knurl, plastic insides, and lead indicator is stuck at HB.

>>52597630
2mm lead holders are the best. All the benefits of a regular wooden for thick and thin lines, and obviously the mechanical part. Plus they're extremely easy to sharpen.

this is too much autism for me to be desu

>>52599135
This. Leadholder master race.

I actually turn my own pens and pencils out of wood and acrylic. I actually just finished a nice oak+gunmetal mechanical pencil for a friend.

>>52599631
That sounds very interesting, do you have any pictures?

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GOAT pen
If you disagree you haven't used one.

>>52599735
Can confirm. Greatest pen there is, and surprisingly pretty cheap as well.

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>>52599735
ive tried that and a pilot metropolitan and i must say the pilot metropolitan is so much more comfy in the hand. pic related.

what ink do you guys recommend?

i want a really thick dark black.

>>52600646
>really thick dark black
p gay la mia famiglie


Noodler's X-feather is the thickest black their is

>>52590886
Technology ("science of craft", from Greek τέχνη, techne, "art, skill, cunning of hand"; and -λογία, -logia) is the collection of techniques, skills, methods and processes used in the production of goods or services or in the accomplishment of objectives, such as scientific investigation.

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this is my go to pen now

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>>52601602
>Notify me when this product is back in stock!

Do people still seriously scribble carbon on dead trees as a way of recording information in 2016?

>>52578581
That font is pretty autistic

>>52601671
>he still sleeps in a bed
>he doesn't slide into his Google Sleepytime sensory deprivation ASMR napchamber ultra-lax superslumber dreampod

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>>52591583
Keyboard is fine. Deal with it.

>>52597098
hard starts and such are nearly always fixable esp. on ebonite feeds with heat setting. I even fixed a plastic feed I melted shut by accident with acetone just by carving a channel out.

I recommend wality or airmail over noodler's indian pens though.

>>52592328
There is usually no arguing about paper as we all know the master race is Oxford Campus Optik© Paper© at 90gsm

>>52601602
TWSBI?
Have they finally fixed the spontaneous cracking issue?

>>52578985
Your hand writing is fucking atrocious

>>52590057
That TUL pencil is underrated imo, it's a really great pencil.
The pencil itself has a really neat rubber body, great eraser, and the writing experience is smoother than my Rotring and Graphgear. Construction is kinda cheap but it's still a nice pencil.
Mine doesn't auto advance the lead, though. I'm pretty sure the whole gimmick was the lead cushion system that prevents breaking when you push too hard.

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>>52578581
I replaced the sandpaper in this sharpener and I got it to work again.

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Currently using these, thinking about getting a rotring 600 or graphgear 1000

>>52607516
If you like thin lines you should try a lead holder like the tk 4600.

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Hey g
What would be a good multi-color pen? I find that multicolored are most efficient at taking notes in class.

>>52607887
Are Faber-Castells really that good? Durability-wise? I have never really liked the design of them, but if they are good, then I will think about it.

>>52607921
pilot coleto is good, zebra sharbo is nice but pricey

>>52607965
>zebra sharbo
>$165
is this going to last me a lifetime?

>>52607937
I love mine. It feels better in my hand than my Staedtler lead holder. The lead tube inside is solid brass, and you can take it apart and see the mechanism, unlike the Mars Technico. The plastic also seems to be better quality on the 4600.

Keep in mind that it is very thin, which I love and find very comfortable, but some people hate thin writing instruments. If you like a slightly thicker lead holder the Mars Technico may be good.

>Graphgear 1000 is cheaper, but I don't like how the clip looks
>Rotring 600 is much nicer looking but more expensive
fug

>>52608029
The clip may look weird, but it allows you to retract the tip, which is very useful.

>>52608029
Having owned both, I like the graphgear a lot better. The rotring is basically a bic plastic mechanical pencil wrapped in metal for $30 plus the tip design is retarded and fragile, the graphgear feels way better.

>>52600646
noodler's heart of darkness is imo the blackest

some people are into the other noodler's blacks (there are like five more), aurora black, sailor nano-black, iroshizuku take-sumi.

>>52608004
Alright
So other than it being thin, how is the comfort? I don't really mind size as long as it isn't too hard or plasticky feeling.

Are the Staedtler and FB both plastic? Are there any good metal ones?

Sorry about the questions, I am relatively new to pencils, having used pens for a long time.

>>52608097
The Staedtler has a knurled metal grip, but a plastic barrel. I have not tried any full metal ones. The FC has a plastic grip with lines for traction. Some people find it uncomfortable, but it feels perfect to me. It is similar to the grip on a pentel PG5.

What's the best price/quality ratio lead brand?
I wanna buy a whole bunch and not have to worry about refills for a year or two

>>52608183
Alright cool. Thanks for the advice/experience man.

I have a Rotring 300 2mm Lead Holder

you'll never get a finer writing utencil
unless you get the 600 or 900
but nothing better :)

>>52580118
Just bought one.

>>52589299
>>52591444

Found the fedoras

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This pen is god tier.

>>52608567
f402 is much more comfy

>>52584122
What are these called?

something's wrong with my pentel graphgear that i've had for like 3 years. Time to get a new one. Any suggestions for one in the $20-30 range?

>>52580118
I have a Kuru Toga Roulette 0.5. It doesn't rotate the lead fast enough for Latin characters but I like the knurled grip and I guess it's better than rotating the lead myself.

>>52608605
http://www.amazon.com/Worther-Shorty-Pencil-Black-Clip/dp/B004RCNLSA

>>52578985
who the fuck does math with a pencil?

Got my Roting 600 0.5mm in sliver about a week ago, its been great.

>>52608663
the newer versions look like they rotate faster. also retractable tip.

>>52580118
Best pencil I've used in my life
Fuck being left-handed

>>52583980
shut the fuck up about my dragon poetry how did you even know about that

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>>52601735