In an age when you practically can't buy a non-16:9 display, how the fuck can't some developers comprehend the importance of vertical space?
it doesn't bother me that it's there, it bothers me that it's a clock and a gigantic blank space and the name of the currently-focused application which is COMPLETELY USELESS instead of a task switcher like literally every other modern operating system has had since the mid-90s
I don't think half a centimetre of vertical space is as valuable as you think it is.
That being said. gnome does a good job of hiding the excess bits and pieces for when you need them by sliding your mouse over the activities corner. Pretty good idea imo. I'd say my desktop looks pretty minimal while I'm working compared to most other OSs.
Problem with Gnome is the default theme has a HUGE top bar by default. I understand the justification for client side decorations, but it means that Gnome software doesn't work well on any other OS/DE, and other software doesn't work well on Gnome. On a small screen, anything below 1600x900, you lose soooo much space.
The currently focused app brings up a menu on most Gnome software. Not really useless, though it's be better if it had the functionality of Unity's globalmenu.
You can add a task switcher with one of Gnome's extensions.
>I don't think half a centimetre of vertical space is as valuable as you think it is.
You wouldn't believe. But why would I consider the opinion of someone who browses the net on a browser that isn't even maximized.
Also, KDE for example allows similar behavior with the docks. Alas, KDE contains a ton of other annoying shit like inconsistent keyboard bindings across system menus.
>can't navigate Dolphin and by keyboard because the cursor gets stuck at arbitrary points
>this bug is now 6 years old familia
What a fucking joke
Vertical taskbar is buggy as fuck and borderline useless, must be the Gnome genes
Retarded multi monitor support
>inb4 use a WM
Hooray I can't wait to mess with config files for the rest of my life
>>>>having to buy a new monitor because my DE is autistic
>>>having to buy a new monitor because my DE is autistic
>>having to buy a new monitor because my DE is autistic
You know what I'd rather spend money on? A decent DE. But everything is freetarded shit and I only have choice between shit and shit (because muh free beer).
Cinnamon is a fine hybrid of GNOME's stiffness, MATE's bugs and KDE's resource munchery.
But yeah, KDE is easily the least bad DE I've tried. Emphasis on least bad.
I've actually found that KDE 5 has been faster than Gnome 3 was. Gnome 3 didn't eat memory, but it chugged on the CPU if you did anything remotely intensive. I was really surprised, because last time I tried it, it was a buggy mess that lagged like hell, but I guess they've got some kind of acceleration working now.
>inconsistent keyboard bindings in kde
what are you talking about?
Menus have the hotkey alt+underlined letter
other hotkeys are set through though the searchable interface or by writing to the config file.
If you use the interface, it will promt you with a warning if you set a hotkey already set.
I really don't see the problem with this approach.
Dolphin is one of the only file managers useable from a keyboard.
Tab switches between the selected control, once you change the size of thumbnails, twice you go to the terminal and as always, shift reverses the function.
The resource eating is the least of those problems and I could deal with it (like I am with wangdowns), but not with those other factors. I don't see a single reason why anybody would use Cinnamon over any other DE.
It isn't even an obscure bug (or rather bugs, because a lot of related but dissimilar ones got marked as duplicates), I've literally encountered it not even 3 minutes into using the system.
The only "problem" I can see is that you can only move in 4 directions
The moves I marked are not legal
Literally can't move down or up through the marked region
That too, but that's only a marginal issue
that is odd. "works on my machines is not a comfort but I have never seen this issue.
The one screenshot is from my arch installation on my desktop, but I use chakra as well and there is no problem there either.
It would be easier to just use krunner then.
I don't know what to say, I haven't seen this issue on my own machines.
The biggest issue I have seen with kde is that the default size of windows is too small and then often hiding the crucial settings or they are too large and you cannot see the window on a small screen (my laptop has x768)
then don't use it?
the beauty of linux in my opinion is that you can use whatever you want
i'm on 1336x768 running xfce and it works fucking fine ,but i've used gnome on smaller 16:9s before
1280x720 is still no worries
The biggest problem with kde (any gui ever) is the size of the windows is important and they are not always on point with that stuff.
But most people would never notice this arrow keys are not the logical way to navigate the settings menu.
autism is an endless source of entertainment
Vertical real estate. It's one of the reasons Chrome took over the browser market.
Firefox had: A title bar. A menu bar. A tab bar. An address bar. And a bookmarks bar.
Chrome: Tabs + omnibar.
Humans read best in small columns since it's easily skimmable. The entire paragraph is in focus so you can read ahead of the line you're on. Long rows have to be read one line at a time. So vertical real estate is more valuable than vertical.
What's ironic about this is that Firefox can (or at least, could) be squeezed into a single bar, while in Chrome you can't even do as little as to adjust your default controls position.
>Vertical real estate. It's one of the reasons Chrome took over the browser market.
I realise you said "one of the", but I still feel the need to mention that that factor probably doesn't come close to the issue of Firefox 3.x performing like utter ass.
>Vertical real estate. It's one of the reasons Chrome took over the browser market.
Lol no. It was Google shoving it up your ass every time you use their search engine using another browser.
Chrome got it perfect first try.
Chrome is faster and it's nice, but it's not worlds faster. The god-tier tab placement and more usable space was a big draw for me. If Firefox had had Chrome's UI and Chrome Firefox's, I would never have switched to Chrome. I wouldn't have been able to give up a fantastic UI for one that's utter shit.
>le Google ad meme
You don't have a problem believing people moved to Firefox from IE because it was less shitty. Funny you can't understand that people would move to Chrome for the same reason.
Why do people become blind fanbois over their shitty freetard browsers?
They may not have noticed it. But their brain did.
16:9 is a scourge on computing. Even UHD 3840 x 2160 doesn't have the same vertical real estate feel as the much superior 16:10 1920 x 1200. It's so nice when you don't have to scroll as much on 1200p compared to 2160p. Fuck the "media compatibility" of modern computers.
You don't need to know the terminology to see the result. And you don't need to adjust other settings to achieve an even greater extent to be able to compare two things side by side and see which is better.
Firefox's UI took up a quarter of the screen at 600p. It wasn't much better at 768p.
I'm at 1200p and I still wouldn't want as much of my screen taken up as Firefox's old UI. That shit is noticeable.
Upgrading to Chrome opened up your screen to the internet. That's what people want to see when they open their browser. They don't want to surf in the little patch left over beneath half a screen of toolbars.
Chrome had speed, stability, a genius omnibar, tabs at the very top of the screen, and more usable real estate. It wasn't "muh ads" and it wasn't just the speed.
How the hell do browser tabs even work with that gnome bar sitting there? Don't tell me they sit beneath it?
I basically made my DE look like manjaro. I know /g/ would get on my ass for not using awesome or i3, but I like what I have. I am a tranny too so I am already worthless.
>tfw can't do this in Chrome
Too bad Firefox is shit on Windows
I wish more things would make their context menu to the side bar of Windows.
Like the usual
things would be, in the menu bar of windows or whatever you call it. Say when you Open Firefox they would appear here somehow.
of course this wouldn't work if you use the entire thingy for shortcuts but that's another issue