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Gifs are way better than webms

>Gifs uses less CPU than webms
>Gifs are shorter than webms usually which is better
>Gifs are Easier to save
>Gifs have preview images while webms don't
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>>52572536
agreed OP


upvoted.
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Only third worlders and applefags complain about .webm files
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>>52572536
>Gifs are Easier to save
right click
save video

>Gifs have preview images while webms don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>being a wincuck aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaああaあaaaaaあaあああaあaああaあaああaあaああaaあaあaあaあaあああaああaあああaあaaあaあaあaあああああああああ
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>>52572603
this

>>52572536
>he's mad he can't find any gay porn in webm
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For some reason GIFs take like 4x time to load for me whilst WebMs load instantly.
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>>52572536
>2.76mb
The same in webm with much higher quality would be 1.5mb.

Fucking kill yourself, faggot.
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>>52572630
That's because webms, despite the massive quality improvement, are 1/4 or less the size of a gif.

Compare OPs 1 second animu bullshit to this, then look at the file sizes.
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GIFs and webms both have their place.
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You can fit more anime into a webm
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>>52572656
Yeah, GIFs are for outdated retards and webms are for anybody who isn't one of the said retards.
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>>52572536
>Gifs uses less CPU than webms
Then purchase a better cpu you fucking NEET.
>Gifs are shorter than webms usually which is better
Same applies to your cock.
>Gifs are Easier to save
Same difficulty as saving a webm actually.
>Gifs have preview images while webms don't
Since when?
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>>52572671
>Then purchase a better cpu you fucking NEET.
but /g/ told me to buy a thinkpad from the 80s.
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>>52572536
OP is obviously a salty mobile user
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>>52572668
GIFs are animated images. webms are videos. Its apples to oranges, my friend.
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>256 colors
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>>52572691
And they both serve the same purpose, with one format being so hilariously superior it's hard to understand how we put up with the pathetic old shit at all.

>hurr VHS tape and DVD is disc, they're completely different
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>>52572691
you'd be surprised by the amount of people that want to replace webms with gifs
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>>52572536
How hard is Apple fucking you in the ass?
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>>52572691
Videos are animated images. Literally. 24 images per second.
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>>52572748
>the human I can not sense more than 24 fps
Kill yourself
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>>52572708
The human eye can't see past 300 colors anyway
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>>52572770
>the human I
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>>52572711
GIFs are still better suited for a short and simple loop or graphic. Why would you feel the need to turn something like this into a webm.
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>gifs use less CPU
Relatively insignificant when you consider how far CPUs have come since the GIF.

>shorter than webms = better
Objectively not true, webms can store more footage than a gif in a smaller size. If you want shorter webms, either make them yourself or seek out people who make short webms. Simply having the option of making webms long is not a con.

>gifs are easier to save
They're the same.

>gifs have preview images while webms don't
webms do
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>>52572621
He doesn't browse /gif/ enough. It's practically all trannies and fags sucking each other off. And with audio
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>>52572786
BUT THIS IS SOOO MUCH BETTER YOU LUDDITE
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>>52572786
>>52572813
>20% smaller file size for exact same thing
Thanks for proving my point.
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>>52572845
But webm doesn't have transparent thumbnails
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>>52572536
>>Gifs uses less CPU than webms
Maybe when 4chan first got them but the difference now is minor
>>Gifs are shorter than webms usually which is better
This is a shitty argument
>>Gifs are Easier to save
Wrong.
>>Gifs have preview images while webms don't
Wrong.
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gifs are images and webm are videos

these are gif properties that are UNIVERSAL thus something like webM will never be able to replace it

gifs will:

autoplay by default
have alpha transparancy
autorepeat by default
have no sound by default

webm or other video formats need a bunch of hacks to replicate gif properties.. then your gonna need every single website to have all of these same hacks (which will never happen)
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>>52572536
Is anybody else having a problem with Firefox shitting the bed with .webms? I've noticed if I open too many (not at once mind you) Firefox starts freezing up. It's a pretty recent problem though desu
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>>52572972

Do you use 4chanX? I don't have that problem anymore after getting that. Firefox screws up on Youtube though but I heard that it's an adblocker issue
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I liked being able to go to an anime gif thread and expanding all images and then saving the whole thing. I can't do that with webms and it would rape my cpu opening 100s of webms despite having an i7 4770k.

Also if someone knows how to get previews of webms on windows explorer please help.
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>>52573005
Actually that's the problem. I go into gallery, start scrolling through, and it shits the fucking bed.

It's irritating as hell. Firefox's HTML5 support in general has always been pretty shit for me
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>>52572536
What do you mean? You can see previews of webms, just install the K-lite codec pack
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>>52572770
>he doesn't know that we're currently talking about chinese cartoons and chinese cartoons are made at 24 FPS
>he thinks he's smart for knowing basic knowledge and trying to make other people look dumb on the Internet
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>>52573065
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>>52572954
On 4chan, using 4chanX, gifs and webms behave exactly the same for me. I can hover over either and they instantly play, and loop. I can turn the sound off globally for all webms too.

The only difference is with webms is that they're higher quality and can last longer.

Seriously, gifs on 4chan need to die. Gifs in general need to die.

There is literally no benifit to them
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>>52572603
this

.t second world
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>>52572536
>Gifs have preview images while webms don't
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>>>/wsg/915696

When will gifs have sound? Never. Accept it; you lost.
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>>52572954
Gifs are multiple images in sequence
Webms are multiple images in sequence

Literally the difference is that Gifs have lower quality and don't compress as well.
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Anyone know of a hack to get webms to loop in MPC?
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>>52573158
Install Gentoo
Install a decent video player
Turn on loop
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>>52573158
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>>52573170
I can turn on loop on MPC too, but I only want it to occur for webm.
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>>52573179
Yes, I know. This isn't a webm only thing though. I don't want this to occur on .mkv and mp4
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>>52573158
get the .webms you want to repeat and copy them at least 50 times


there might be a toggle in the settings but I'm too lazy to disable it every time I don't want things to repeat
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>>52573183
Write a script that only enables it for webms
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>>52573200
then turn it off when you dont want it to loop.
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>>52573226
I guess. That is an inconvenient solution though.
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>>52572536
>Gifs are way better than webms
Wrong
>Gifs uses less CPU than webms
On a one to one scale yes, when there are several on a page it's better to have webm as they don't play automatically.
>Gifs are shorter than webms usually which is better
Longer is always better
>Gifs are Easier to save
Right click, save video as.
>Gifs have preview images while webms don't
I've never seen a webm that doesn't have a preview image.
webm is a video format so it supports sound and has significantly better compression while still having far superior colour and sound all with a smaller file size.
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>>52572536
>>Gifs uses less CPU than webms
who cares

>>Gifs are shorter than webms usually which is better
What?

>Gifs are Easier to save
What?

>Gifs have preview images while webms don't
That's incorrect.
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>>52573272
>>>Gifs are Easier to save
>What?
With gifs being images you can drag it from the browser to a folder and it auto saves it. Can't do this with webm.
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>>52573408
or you could just click the save button and browse to the folder

why would you open a second window, navigate to the location, drag the gif into the folder instead of just clicking save and navigating to the folder
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>>52573421
Because I very often drag pictures to my desktop to save them and sort them later.

or everything in a thread is going to go into the same folder. It saves a lot of clicks.

Also another problem is that if you expand a bunch of webms and save the thread it won't save all the webms like it would with images.
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>>52572855
Neither do GIFs
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>>52573158
Use irfanview to watch them instead?
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>>52573408
Use a better browser.

>Gifs are superior because my browser only knows how to work with Gifs real good.
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>>52573448
>saving things to your desktop
disgusting
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>>52573408
>Dragging and dropping to save
How fucking stupid are you?
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Topkek, all of the people in this thread that think GIF is better than WEBM only do so because their browser has better support for GIFS and they think that somehow this represents some inherent superiority that GIF has over WEBM.
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>>52573547
The only non-shortcuts you should have on your desktop are portable applications.
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>>52572536
just use a thumbnailer, they even have wemb thumbnailers in windows
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>>52572536
Bicycles are way better than cars

>Bicycles use less fuel than cars
>Bicycles are smaller form than cars
>Bicycles are easier to carry around
>Bicycles are easier to spot
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>>52572536
>Gifs take more storage space than webms
>Gifs use more RAM than webms
>Gifs were designed for Compuserv and braindead AOL'ers
>Gifs are patent encumbered
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>>52572536
shit poorfags say
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>>52572536
>>Gifs uses less CPU than webms
>he has a shit PC/phone in 2016

>>Gifs are shorter than webms usually which is better
>le "less is more meme"

>>Gifs are Easier to save
>see "he has a shit pc/phone"

>>Gifs have preview images while webms don't
irrelevant

hows being poor and retarded OP?
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>>52573738
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>>52572954
check it out dude, transparency.
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>>52572536
>Gifs have preview images while webms don't

Do you need to be spoonfed?
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>>52572691
either Webp or flif will replace gif in the future.
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>>52572536
Safari user detected
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>this [objectively worse thing] is better than this [objectively better thing]

/g/ is so fucking predictable
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>>52572536
Also
>gif more secure
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>>52572536
>Gifs are way better than webm
No
>>Gifs uses less CPU than webms
False, try saving a 1 minute gif and compare it with a 1 minute webm
>>Gifs are shorter than webms usually which is better
That just means gif can't replace webm
>>Gifs are Easier to save
False, it's way too subjective
>>Gifs have preview images while webms don't
Webm can also have thumbnails
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>>52573992
That's why I've started doing the exact opposite of what /g/ has said. Got a 970 when /g/ was, and still is, throwing a bitchfit about the card. The 970's so good I got 2 and SLI'd them. Titan X performance for far less cash.
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>>52572786
That's one of the few cases where gif still makes sense. It could be replaced by apng if you felt like it but apng doesn't have widespread support.
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>>52572536
>>Gifs have preview images while webms don't
what.. that's literally untrue
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>>52573466
yes they do..
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>>52572686
*2000s
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>>52572954
>gifs will:
>have alpha transparancy
gifs have index transparency not alpha. The difference is alpha gives you partial transparency while index only has all on or all off.

Webm actually has alpha transparency btw, PNG does as well on 32bit images. In order to have alpha you need a fourth channel for alpha.
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Webm takes more cpu if you are using a Pentium 4
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>>52574146

Why the fuck would you SLI 970
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>>52574579
I think you missed an important part of the post.

>Titan X performance for far less cash.

Keep in mind that SLI'd 970s will also go toe to toe with overclocked 980 Tis.
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>>52574620

That wasn't my point, what do you do that needs two 970's? You play on 1080p right?

Also memes aside the performance does considerably get worse as soon the more it passes 3.5GB VRAM usage and sadly SLI doesn't magically increase the overall VRAM
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>>52572536
>>Gifs have preview images while webms don't
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>>52574677
Aside from the first one all of OP's points are wrong and/or stupid. I'm guessing he was only trolling for responses anyway though because the thread wasn't really headed anywhere anyway.
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>>52574660
I'm aware of the VRAM memory cloning in DX11. Supposedly DX12 doesn't clone memory and you will actually get double the VRAM in Crossfire and SLI.

As to why I use 2 970s, I do a lot of 3D CAD work in Revit, Solidworks, and Inventor. I also do a lot of rendering in Maya and Adobe After Effects. At work, I have a proper workstation with K40s and a server render farm full of K80s for rendering. For home usage and out of office touch ups, 2 970s do the job just fine.
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>>52574727
Oh, I also game at 1080p @ 144 hz with the sliders maxed on every game I play. Even with MSAA and SSAA, I still don't hit 3.5 gigs of VRAM. Granted, I'm also not using Ultra HD mods of anything either. /g/ maymays really aren't that accurate unless Fermi is involved.
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>>52572536
>uses less CPU than webms

Join the 21st century and this wont be a issue
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>>52572691
>animated images
>videos

Hngggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
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>>52573158
Looks like you now have a reason to switch to mpv.
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>>52573408
>>52573448
that's macfags for you.
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>>52572536
>not true
>why having the option to post a longer animation is bad? you are stupid
>right click save is not hard for either
>not true

here's your reply you can go to bed now
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>>52572661
sauce please
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>Gifs uses less CPU than webms
>Gifs are Easier to save
false
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>>52572536
they both have their strong points.
auto-animating webms isn't really worth doing because as you said they use more CPU.
So for short loops and epic reaction images GIFs are better.
For anything beyond that, webms are better.

Also webms do have preview images.
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>>52577825
it's true.
4chan x actually recommends against auto-animating webms even though the option is there, because if you say open a 300 post webm thread it's not going to keep up.
Same doesn't happen with GIFs.
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>>52572649
Top .webm
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>>52573874
l-lewd
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>>52572536
.webms would be better if closing the webm on 4chins would stop eating the fucking CPU resources.
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>>52577996
Works fine for me in Firefox 43.0.4
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>>52573076
Ooh, nice sandvich.
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Try and get this quality out of a .gif of the same size.
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>>52573084
What the fuck is that and where can I find more?
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>>52572536

>t. iPhone user
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>>52572649
This got me, this one's good
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>>52574799
>not saving resources everywhere you can
>not using underclocked athlon xp 2400+ just to keep yourself alert for any resource waste in modern programs
git gud
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>>52577801
Love Live you monogoloid
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>>52578338
2nd season? i just started watching it
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>>52578069
>i'm a child and i like to play with children toys and videogames
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>>52578381
underage spotted
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>>52578135
Eurovision song contest.

The same thing that spawned this abomination.
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>>52578483
>This is the hell you chose.webm
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>>52577996
>>52578008
AFAIK, the webm codecs aren't hardware accelerated. This means the decoding and rendering happens on the CPU, not the graphics unit as it is for H.264.
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>Gifs uses less CPU than webms
Not true. WebMs can be hardware accelerated. I am not sure which GPUs support it but quite a bit of SoCs does, as well as Broadwell CPUs.
If you really care about CPU usage, then WebM with the right hardware is far better.

>Gifs are shorter than webms usually which is better
1) There is nothing in the WebM specification which says they have to be longer than gifs. The only reason why they are longer is because people choose to make them longer, because the format is better and allows for it.
2) How is the ability to make longer clips a drawback? Just don't make the clips long if you don't want to.

>Gifs are Easier to save
How is "right click -> Save video as..." harder than "right click -> save Image as..."?

>Gifs have preview images while webms don't
Depends on the website and program. There is nothing stopping anyone from making WebMs autoplay.

Good troll.
5/10
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>>52578513
His artist's name is Conchita Wurst, which literally translates into Cunt Dick. I'm not joking.
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>>52578569
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>>52572536

>gifs also look x10 shittier then webm's.
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>>52578135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8J3GAg5zaI
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>>52572536
>Gifs uses less CPU than webms

Fairly irrelevant.

Anyway, as a result of that, gifs also use a crapton more space, need to be lower res, needs to have less frames (thus often choppy, look at tumblr gifs) and often limited colour depth as well.

>Gifs are shorter than webms usually which is better

Nope. Gifs can't do shit except some reaction. Webms can show something cool, demonstrate something, be short pieces of video for humour etc.

>Gifs have preview images while webms don't

They have previews here. Not my fault that you have shit file managers.
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>>52574227

No they don't. All 4chan thumbnails are jpeg. You're running a script which fetches and downscales the original image.
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>>52572536
Sauce??
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>>52579106

One Punch Man
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>gif
You're a child, aren't you?
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>>52578483
I watched your webm then said aloud, "What the fuck," then noticed the file name.
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>>52573013
Bullshit a webm only decodes on a CPU when it is in view.
I tested this on a q6700 when they were first allowed to be uploaded.
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>>52572603
/thread
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>>52578329
A modern CPU thats undervolted/clocked would save more energy that that AXP
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>>52578557
There are CPUs with VP8 hardware decode, but it barely matters for VP8 as it's so fast to decode on the CPU, plus most 4chan webm's tend to max out at 720p. The biggest video on this thread takes 20% of one core to decode on my laptop.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG

Browsers and programs should really support this.

>Better than gif
>More quality than gif
>transparent support.

COOOME OOOOONNNN.
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>>52583702
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebP

There's also this anon.
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>>52572688
actually gifs are slow as fuck on iphones
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