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Intended for users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try Linux, you can:
1) Install a Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
2) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full Linux experience".
3) Dual-boot Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about Linux)
4) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with Linux (not recommended)
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I have had Arch on my thinkpad for more than two years and have no beefs with it but since I'm on my new Skylake fast and snappy Desktop now I wanted something that looks nice out of the box and doesn't need too much work on it since I'll mainly be using Windows on this machine for games.
I used Debian for a couple of years before Arch but so I'd like to try something new, Mint felt a bit too laggy on the graphics side, tearing and vsync problems even after I updated the kernel to 4.4 and the open source ATI drivers to git version.
small image. don't freak out about only getting a terminal prompt after install. you get a desktop at the end.
to get current software. type these commands:
":" to bring up command prompt each time
apt update && apt upgrade
apt install gnome
Just installed Arch on a VM (practicing to install onto extra HDD)
How do I install cinnamon DE?
pacman -S cinnamon, but all of the options come back as Errors failed to retrieve. Wat do?
anyone have experience with virtualbox? every time i power off and start a vm, nothing gets saved in the virtual hard disk, like it's a fresh reboot every time
Not sure if ask this here or in the stupid questions thread, but here it goes anyway: got and old computer (circa 2002 AMD K7, 640 MB of RAM) with windows XP and and an very outdated Mint version (Glorya, I guess). Downloaded newest Lubuntu Iso, "burned" image to USB stick with rufus under windows and tried to make comp boot from there, but to no avail.
Tried the very same stick on a friends comp (Some Athlon x2 build) and it boot Lubuntu as expected.
Tried again but with Puppy (Slacko) burned in the same stick, but still, won't boot.
Im mostly sure the old computer can boot from USB, as it shows the stick listed when I access the boot menu during post.
Question is: is this computer too old for current Linux distros, even those supposed to be lightweight?
Honestly. Just looking ahead of all of the DEs and WMs. I don't feel like spending that much time on it, planning it from step one. I just want to orgasm all over a perfected distro while making very minute changes.
Last time I tried CrunchBang (the predecessor to Hydrogen), it crashed every few days. Of course those were probably my fault because I was just starting out. But it left me with a bad taste in my mouth
>Eh I guess it is time to learn. What DE would you recommend? I'm thinking about KDE desu
I'd use Xfce4 or KDE.
How can I make this happen without using chrome or firecuck?
Chromium won't load. What linux browsers will? Or a workaround for chromium
So am I SOL and should I just install Manjaro?
Ye the proprietary garbage comes with Chrome, but is there any way to just add that to chromium? I haven't found anything on google.
Seriously no other browsers for linux to watch netflix? What the fuck netflix why
A few questions:
1) What gtk and qt bloat do I need to make things look a little nicer on Debian with xfce?
2) Are we closing on the year of the Linux desktop? AMD going open source with their drivers, Valve pushing Vulkan, and NSA/Windows shifting their gears for advertisement and snooping are a few reasons. It still needs to somehow get on prebuilts if that market still exists with more and more people going for tablets and phones.
3) How's virtualization performance nowadays? This man on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37D2bRsthfI claims 99.6% on gaymes with a GPU passthrough and shows a 5% difference between native and VM, I don't see why I would ever need to dual boot now.
4) Is James F. Kurose, Keith W. Ross-Computer Networking_ A Top-Down Approach-Addison-Wesley decent for getting to know networking? I'm not from CS but have taken several courses and am interested in learning at least the basics.
5) Anything I should be wary of when installing Debian Jessie on the desktop?
>year of the linux desktop
Unfortunately no, the problem is that 95% of people are too retarded to even use Ubuntu functionally.
> Debian Jessie
if you're up for it, installing via minimal will help you learn a lot if you don't know already
You change the xinitrc file to have the words
There is most likely another exec command in that config file though, remove it.
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc is where my xinitrc is.
Not necessarily, you just need to install Chrome or Firecucks.
As far as I know, no. If you're going to start adding closed-source malware to Chromium you may as well install Chrome.
It's not necessarily Netflix being an ass here; it's the content """"""owners"""""" being fuck-asses about the idea of people watching their stuff without being fucked up the ass with the proprietary strap-on.
>fucked up the ass with the proprietary strap-on.
It used to be because netflix used Silverlight instead of flash, which was a decent excuse... But now that it uses html5 like everything else, there's zero fucking excuse at all. Just amazes me that this is a thing desu.
I don't understand why content owners insist on treating their customers like dirt. Wouldn't making your content more easily accessible and available to everyone in a convenient manner be a better deterrent to piracy?
Yes, but they refuse to just accept that people are going to pirate shit and they will always lose a portion of profit to that; they want to make sure nobody has any option whatsoever but to buy from them. Look at what happened to games. Always-on consoles, the death of used games, needing to sign into an account to play fucking single player.
If they made their stuff easy to use and weren't fucksticks, people who would have bought from them would have. Hell, I'd probably have paid for a lot of the shit I've pirated if the companies weren't fucking evil.
I can't get Playonlinux's League of Legends to work.
All my other emulated applications work fine, one of which I manually installed and somehow didn't break.
But after installing League, it'll pop up in the menu of available applications, but nothing happens when run it.
Arch linux, Wine 1.7.52 League, League whichever it installs edition.
Every time I try to boot gentoo, it hangs at the 2-4 second mark. I can't post my log.rc because it dosen't get that far in the boot sequence, but I noticed it mentions INIT: version 2.88 booting and INIT: no inittabs found.
Here's some information on my /etc/inittabs -> http://pastebin.com/a4GiWu4K
fstab -> http://pastebin.com/F5UD5iYa
I used efibootmgr to create a boot entry: efibootmgr --create --disk /dev/sdb --part 1 -L "Gentoo" -l "\efi\boot\bootx64.efi" (Didn't use an initramfs)
Any help is greatly appreciated.
>Every time I try to boot gentoo, it hangs at the 2-4 second mark. I can't post my log.rc because it dosen't get that far in the boot sequence, but I noticed it mentions INIT: version 2.88 booting and INIT: no inittabs found.
Install Arch, don't follow random advice on 4chan...
Hey. I'm the cuck that asked about Arch not installing Cinnamon. I installed Manjaro and got it to my liking and so on... I have a little better understanding of the pacman manager, thanks for all the help you kind people gave me.
>Tfw Manjaro is getting better gradually
>Latest security patches
Feels good, niggers
Yes, I'm using it in regards to the fact that I've only seen Arch used as a distro for people to rice their desktops and and watch anime on. Arch is therefore a meme distro.
The word meme is a meme now.
>he needs to wait months for "security updats"
Just wanted to share pleasant experience with linux today
>run Windows 7
>try to hook up two monitors and 1 TV to my R9 270x
>won't work natively, have to always crawl under my desk and unplug one monitor when I want to use my TV to watch something
>do the same thing on Ubununtu 15.10
>everything works perfectly, contrary to Windows, it even recognizes my devices by name
>never have to crawl under my desk again
\end of blogpost
Forget about it.
I completely forgot you're here for e-penis enlargement, not actual upgrade in distro quality.
>arch is so shit even security through obscurity doesn't work
"Hey anon, that's not windows, what is it?"
"Oh, it's a version of Linux, called Fedora"
Proceed the immediate prejudice from anyone who learns I'm running something called Fedora.
>Proceed the immediate prejudice from anyone who learns I'm running something called Fedora.
I literally never heard a single normie associate "fedora" with the neckbeard atheist meme.
It's a 4chan/reddit thing.
I'm afraid you're too much concerned with what people thing about you.
protip: they don't give a shit.
Which GNU/Linux distro should I install for dual boot on my laptop?
I'm thinking fedora, but can I rice it, use openbox and make it look autistic like in desktop threads
*buntu with your de/wm of choice should give you the least amount of headache.
For serious development, fedora for sure.
Forgot to add. If you install with the "fedora server" disc image, you will have the ability to choose a "basic environment" which will install few most popular WMs instead of a DE like gnome, kde, mate, xfce
Has anyone got the issue in ubuntu 15.10 where stuff like terminal hotkey will be mapped to the wrong layout? I use colemak which means my t is on the f on a regular keyboard, but some times I still need to do ctrl alt f (aka ctrl alt t on qwerty) to get a terminal up.
For some reason keyboard layouts have been really shitty on ubuntu
Linux n00b here.
So I was installing some packages and did apt-get upgrade and now it just stops at "Reading package lists.. 30%" then shows up this
test@test-pc ~ $ . 30%
Whatever I type after this writes over that text after $
So I can't upgrade nor install anything. Using Mint, btw. Wat do? (tried restarting, cleaning caches, but to no avail.)
For that comment now the cucks from Microdick are after you anon. Welcome to /g/.
Manjaro / Antergos
>mfw I am ready to get memed for this recommendation
>why not adduser sudo?
In pretty much every case where sudo isn't automatically configured, you can't just add a user to sudo or wheel and expect it to work. Those lines are commented out in /etc/sudoers by default and have to be manually enabled.
Debian Minimal, which iirc doesn't even come with sudo at all, is one of those cases.
It's yet another Based-On distro, made even worse because it's a distro trying to updated a distro based on another distro.
There's nothing #!++ can do that you can't do with Debian + three hours of customization, and it'd be way better.
I just like the ~600mb install and the fact that it looks pretty
>three hours of customization
yeah but I'd never bother
I don't want to spend 3 hours taking shit out of a distro. Feels too counterproductive
but of course if someone had already done it for me I'd happily spend 3 hours installing it
"I'm like, complicated and stuff"
Everything I find consists of people saying it's theoretically possible but nobody actually saying that they've done it.
There's quite a jump between having a PS2 and a MIPS Linux kernel and actually having that PS2 be running Linux.
As far as I know the PS2 can't boot random DVDs so I imagine there'd have to be some level of modification to the PS2 before I can just pop in a Debian disc and run the installer.
Vi is deprecated shit, and the full vim package is quite large so debian only installs vim.tiny by default.
vim.tiny doesn't have ANY documentation with it, meaning a new user could open it up and have no fucking clue how to save or quit properly.
Nano is minimal yet easily usable by anyone fortunate enough to have eyes in their head and fingers on their hands, so it's usually the default editor now.
>tfw you finally get suspend when lid closed working
When I installed my Arch for the first time it had a very nice, sleek font size and colour scheme for the tty.
After installing Xorg and KDE plasma 5, terminal emulators, some font packages etc. in one sitting, (I'm not sure which of those is causing htis) when I switch back to a tty the font is much bigger and it looks retarded.
How can I fix this? Is there an easy way to restore the default font?
I haven't used Skype in years, but I'm pretty sure the Linux version is ancient. It might still be maintained, but I think it stopped getting major updates when MS took over, which was a long time ago. I could be wrong, but it always seemed to be pretty far behind the other versions.
How is that less secure than literally anything else in Linux?
Especially considering that the apacman install wants you to read the source code by default. It also has a huge community that cares about the project.
If you aren't going to trust open source devs I don't know who the fuck you can trust.
Yeah, I'm using Gallium 0.4 drivers. Tried switching to the AMD drivers on the Ubuntu repo, but that completely fucked my system so I had to do a complete reinstall.
to the anon who was baited into replying to a >linux thread - I saw, and wanted to post it here rather than it go to the void of deleted threads
That's an example of non-shitty software in the AUR.
There's also Freenet,i2p,Tor,ipfs,onionshare,pidgin,chromium,clementine,qbittorrent,mesa-git,dolphin-emu-vr,icons,fonts,btsync and much more
1. compton and a theme (numix dark or arc dark)
2. the numbers are actually increasing steadily since win 10 but it will take more time
3. breddy gud
4. passing this
5. enable backports and in case you need them non-free sources.
1: Compton got rid of the the tearing so it's all good. Numix is fine, but I think I'm going with Arc. Buttons like the quick reply and window scroll bars still look like poop though.
2 and 3: I hope so. I think leaving Windows on a VM is just fine since I can find better alternative on Linux most of the time.
4: Pass as in don't read it? My English is bad.
5: Thanks familia.
Is it worth uninstalling proprietary drives to have have better integration with Linux and linux based apps (like Qt etc.)?
I don't play games, but I often need to do a lot of scientific/engineering 3D plotting and/or modelling for work, I'm just wondering if the open source ones break or will give me issues running other modern proprietary 3D accelerated software.
Sup /flt/. Is there a good replacement for HFS on Linux? I used to use that, but corporate recently started blocking that website and it shows up as malware in Norton or whatever the fuck so I can't use it. They don't know anything about my Linux VM, so I can use that instead. I was thinking about getting owncloud, but is there anything that's not as huge?
do you have a recent but not the latest radeon card? if so then it's probably worth it
hell, the current radeonsi driver is pretty fast as well (as stable and feature-complete), i play games with it sometimes too (i have a 7850)
if it's an nvidia card you'll be slowed down quite a bit, nouveau (free nvidia driver) is still struggling to reverse engineer power management (which means cards are stuck on their low speed setting they use during power on)
if it's a web server you're after check out nginx, if it's just a public file server then perhaps an ftp server such as vsftpd might be more suitable
Yeah HFS file server. I used it as an easy one binary server that I could upload files to. Any easy solutions for Windows retards like me so I don't have to screw around with it to get it working? I might just go with ftp if there's not something like HFS for Linux.
oh yea, speaking of game performance and driver comparison, there's another neat thing you can only use with the free drivers
native direct3d 9.
you can use a patched version of wine with support for this integrated to avoid the d3d9>opengl translation on d3d9 games, which speeds them up quite a bit
I have a Nvidia GeForce GT 610. Basically a PoS, but released in 2012 which isn't too long ago. It's the cheapest one I could find with CUDA tech, I don't work in CUDA, but I might have to simulate experimental code that uses it.
Linuxfags, are you even trying? EXT4 BTFO by Apple's 30 year old file system. I guess Lintards don't know what features are. Maybe he should leave the Linux kernel development to better devs, like David Gewrzdtlkdcxz.
I have this external hard drive that uses USB 3.0.
I have Linux Mint installed on my laptop and the laptop has only USB 2.0 ports.
When I plug the external in it starts up but doesn't mount.
I did some research while I was in class, and people said it was a driver issues fixed with a kernel update. (3.16 generic to 4.4 generic)
I updated to the latest kernel (AFAIK) and nothing.
It's not the most descriptive explanation, I know, but I have no idea what else to do.
A complete noob to Linux, btw.
I just rebooted a computer that ran Debian, and now it just gives me a commandline. I have no idea what caused this since I didn't install anything graphics related I think, and I don't have an idea how I would even start to look for the problem.
Anybody have some sites that help me fix this, or some specific tips?
I have no idea how cuda software actually works, but the people here are using a python module do run it. Is that going to need proprietary cuda, or is it probably their own implementation of it?
I'm downloading the latest version of Mint - am I making i mistake? Here is what I use computer for
* Video Edits
* Web building including dreamweaver sometimes
Will I still be able to run the programs I'm familiar with using WINE?
I plan to dual boot at first so I don't have to commit 100%
I'm trying to ditch windows because it's worse every year to be honest and I at least feel like linux is moving in the right direction.
No, I think you just don't know what the word means.
Well you do now, since you've googled it in order to not look too stupid in your reply.
It almost worked.
>I didn't mean jabber literally, I meant it in the A B S T R A C T sense of the word :^)
> I meant it in the A B S T R A C T sense of the word :^)
No, I meant the 4chan sense of the word.
>hook em in the jabber
Is 4chan venacular you fuckwit. It's from an meme and a common expression. You really are autistic aren't you?
I have zero clue what to start looking for since the kernel upgrade didn't work.
I tried getting games to work on Arch with wine, which they did with steam. But as soon as I tried to install non-Steam games, I ran into missing 32 bit libraries. The libraries I need aren't even in the AUR, even though the 64 bit versions are part of the official packages. Can I use the official packages as a base to compile multilib stuff? Or should I just switch to ubuntu and roll around in precompiled binaries?
Anyone know of a way to remove unnecessary libraries that aren't dependencies of programs I use, without browsing my entire apt? Some simple tool or something's gotta be able to check what's not needed that starts with "lib".
Debian, friend. Any other equivalents that don't rely on pacman? :(
That's unfortunate. It's not a huge issue, but it triggers my OCD having 1600+ packages, and probably 800 of them being libs I probably don't need.
So uh, if there's anything else anyone knows of, let me know. =(
I know, it's just muh OCD. :P
This is true
"Friendly", eh? Haha
Anyone know what I have wrong on my kernel? With an X1300 GPU I'm trying to enable KMS for Xorg but I get no screen on bootup at all.
Yes, welcome friend!
I'm leaving, this place is no fun. See pic related btw.
Yo, beginner here.
I just ordered a ThinkPad T450. Does anyone have any experience using Linux (specifically Ubuntu) on this one?
I've googled around, but I can't seem to find a concluding answer.
Intel core i7-5600U
Intel HD Graphics 5500 (not for gaming, obviously)
Also, I've added an LTE Sierra EM7345 for being able to using the interwebz with my SIM-card when I'm out.
Would there be any problems with all these with the newest Ubuntu?
Is there another distro that would be better?
I'm studying computer science, so it's mainly for programming and watching random weaboo animes.
>Friendly poster makes a polite request of how to clean up their system, makes it clear they are using an apt-based distro
>Shitpost methods that obviously will not work on apt, or shill your meme distro rather than actually being helpful
Unless you want to make a nice guide on how to get debian/ubuntu to use pacman without breaking everything, there's no need to be so cheeky your rude cunts.
There shouldn't be any unused libs whatsoever. There will be unused programs, but there's no script that can work out which ones you'll want to use or not.
Maybe have a lot at: https://wiki.debian.org/ReduceDebian
so I just installed i3-gaps-git from the AUR and this is what I get, There are no gaps when I tile and the bar at the bottom displays an error message, Did i mess up? All I did was run yaourt -S i3-gaps-git and install it, shouldn't that be all there is too it?
I actually use a cleanup script for debian, and I'd help him, if he would simply ask anonymous instead of shouting LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!
>memed himself into gentoo
>can't even compile a fucking browser.
I'm actually the latter, not really gay. Don't really care what people have to say about me, though.
And this is way off-topic, so I'll stop.
This better? Please and thank you if there's anything! And I didn't say that. :/
>>52564001# Get unused package artefacts:
dpkg -l | grep '^rc ' | cut -d ' ' -f3
# Get unused kernel headers:
dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d'
I did that. I've already spent hours compiling dependencies of dependencies, the problem is that I've run into stuff for which there are no AUR repos and I cannot into PKGBUILD. As I understand it the difference between compiling 32 bit for 32 bit arch and compiling 32 bit for 64 arch should just be a few compiler flags and the installation directory (lib32 instead of lib). I'm just wondering if anyone could confirm this before I spend more time on this.
I will always see the fat guy holding the arch on his shoulders. Can't be unseen.
Install awesome copycats for premade themes, gaps, etc. Also check out awesome's rc.lua. Ther you can set one of the three shipped themes.
Is there something like Gentoo but simpler to install, or like Arch but not as unstable (if the memes are true)? I want a distro that I can build from a fairly low level, so I can get a better understanding of what each one of those processes and tasks hanging around does, but I don't want to drown in a Bible's worth of docs for the next 6 months either.
it's always useful to be able to do basic text and system manipulation.
it's not about making everything hard by doing it in a command line instead of a gui specifically made for particular task.
But don't bother wasting time on reading through manuals.
Once you have a problem, then try to look up the most elegant solution to it.
It will come with time.
>Using mint 15.3 and opensource drivers, i have no idea why
opensource drivers are really lacking when it comes to powersaving since hardly any manufacturer save for a few (like intel) cares about acpi standards
>I want a distro that I can build from a fairly low level, so I can get a better understanding of what each one of those processes and tasks hanging around does, but I don't want to drown in a Bible's worth of docs for the next 6 months either.
Gentoo is the simplest neckbeard-type distro thanks to it's package manager (emerge).
If your job doesn't depend on those skills, don't bother learning them from scratch.
Stop trying to be an elitist cunt and use well supported distros like *buntu, Mint or Fedora.
Knowledge will come with time.
So use the proprietary drivers instead, no company is going to give away it's technological secrets just so you can have perfect vsync in obscure operating systems. (I like Linux /GNU a lot but I'm a realist)
I don't want to go full neckbeard and build stuff from the kernel, I just don't want a distro with a ton of preinstalled shit really. Just a package manager and maybe a window manager.
How come that some programs on gnu/linux doesnt require installation like on windows?
For example I downloaded VSCode and I could run it just by extracting the tarball and running the executable file without any modifications. Later I just added .desktop icon and that was it.
I don't know why Intel does it, probably because NVidia is prohibited from making x86 CPUs, so there's no direct rival.
AMD and NVidia are Rivals as GPU designers, so their opensource components don't contain any significant optimizations for opengl or xorg
I just explained to him one possible reasons why his gpu runs hot and fans are not able to deal with it
>muh technological secrets
Nice fallacy there friend.
Didn't stop intel from making WORKING open source drivers for all their gpu (including iris pro)
Besides AMD realized that their linux drivers are pure fucking garbage and announced drm kernel driver backend that will be included in the linux kernel for better compatibility
Ok guys, running Debian testing, and i seem to running into a possible issue. Would anyone mind posting the size of their /usr/lib/gcc/ directory. I feel like mine is too large (650 MB), but i could be wrong.
Say I want to leave PW authentication on SSH because I may not always have a passkey on me or something. Could I create a second user account with zero privs, only allow that one to be logged in by ssh, then once logged in su into my regular account for double pw - different obviously - authentication for added security? And if I could do all this after su'ing would it be as if I logged into my normal user all along?
Is this possible?
I'm truing to open a .xlsx a colleague sent and I really don't feel like turning on my windows PC.
My DE shell tries to open it with Ark by default, should I try opening it with libreoffice in the terminal or will it fail?