/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>52544743
what the fuck did you do with that image you retarded nigger

Just bought a Fiio K1 to power my RHA MA 350s, did I fuck up?

I mainly just got it for replacing my on board sound card.

It might be possible to return it and get a Fiio E07k, would that be smart, it's only 16$ more.

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>>52544778
better version

4 u

From the previous thread:

Let's play a game.

>Budget
Not restricted.
>Location
United States
>Source
An amplifier.
>Preferred type of headphone
Let's say circumaural.
>Open or closed, comfort
Doesn't matter
>Preferred tonal balance
Bright. Not V-shaped, not one or two narrow band peaks around a wide valley of recessed treble. Just lifted upper mid and treble.
>Past headphones
HD800 - Once you get past the 6kHz peak, it's a really veiled headphone. Also too midbassy.
K702 - Peak at mid treble, add a peak around 2 kHz and low treble plunge. Deceptively midbassy and dull.
DT 880/990 - Mild/pronounced V-shape
ER-4B - One of the few purely bright things I can think of. But this is an IEM.

Others:
HE560 - Trenches around the peaks at 4-5 kHz and higher up at around double that. Has a hint of the HD 600 flavor.
T1 - Sounds too much like darker HD650/R70X plus a 9 kHz spike.
T70 - Upper mid/treble plunge, then the Beyer peaks again
SA5000 - This might have been a fit, but it's not made now.
T90 - This nearly fits. Anything with less midbass?
STAX - Aside from the ~10kHz peaking, and the usual 1.5kHz bump, these are pretty dull sounding. I do appreciate the lack of bass boost.

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>>52544743
>eardildos

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>>52544835
>AKG
>Bassy
wat

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My new portable setup. Did I do good?

>>52544835
SRH1840

>>52544926
I see no iems

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Hd600 memerace reporting in

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Just bought these as a cheap replacement for when I work. I work outside and the traditional cable gets caught on everything I do. First pair of BT over the ear headphones. Looking forward to them.

>>52544926
>open
>portable

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waiting for my poorfag IEMs to turn up.

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>>52544956
I don't like IEMs that much

>>52544796
>Fiio K1 to power my RHA MA 350s, did I fuck up?
It's enough for any IEM, if that's what is worrying you.
Maybe not for some of the really insensitive headphones

>>52544889
Plenty of them are.

>>52544937
It fits, although it's more bass light than bright.

>>52544996
For going outside, not mass transit.

This is what I'm using. Please note I only just started giving a shit how my music/games/movies sound.

DAC: Fiio E10K
Headphones: Sennheiser HD558
Speakers: Thornet & Vander Spiel Bookshelf Speakers
Probably doesn't matter to you guys but I use a modmic attached to the 558s

Any input is appreciated.

>>52544736
Haven't used any of it yet, but i think the concept is very cool, both from the production point of view and as someone who does family trips with people who enjoy listening to the radio, shit can get pretty loud pretty fast, it's annoying as hell.
Now that you have mentioned it, i'm cunrretly waiting for a friend to send me a few tracks to master so i guess i'll try it and see if he likes it.

havi b3 pro1 vs soundmagic e80?

>>52545231
E80's, havi's have quality issues.

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>that feel when K7xx master race

>>52544695
Yeah, a little worried but the seller on Amazon said that they buy them directly from the manufacturer, and if I receive a fake, I can return them for full cashback. Just waiting a few more days to see if I really want them before I make the purchase.

>>52545407
try gearbest, banggood, and sites like those, as you're less likely to get a fake.

>>52545424
I'm in Japan so Amazon is probably the only real reliable place to get it from

>>52545257
alright thanks

>>52545457
not really as they ship from guangzhou or hong kong, so it shouldn't take too long to get to japan as they take about 2 weeks to get to the UK.

>>52545504
I'll give it a look then, thanks

>>52545058
Aight, how about quality wise?

Would I really get that much more with the E07k?

And would the K1's DAC be an upgrade over my rMBP's?

Why do audiophiles hate bass? Is it because there's almost no overlap between them and musicians?

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>>52545585
only fake audiophiles who think no bass is neutral hates bass

>Budget: £150~
>Location: England
>Source: Computer, rear audio output, but would be alright to try a wireless considering my previous problems with wired headphones
>Preferred type: Headphone
>Open or closed: Closed
>Comfort level: As long as it sits around my ears and not on them I'm alright
>Past headphones: Phillips SHP2500 x3, first one lasted me 2 years, second one lasted me a year and a half, this one's barely lasted me a month before the left earcup's completely gone (Wire's work hardened and snapped inside, despite being extra careful with it)

>>52545708
AKG K550

>>52544862
>not molesting your ears
>2016

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>>52545311
When the look matches the sound quality

>>52545226
Just recently started reading about it. Loudness metadata standard embedded into the media to regulate perceptual loudness, drawing down the loudness war, new sound weighting curves.
I was hoping for some different perspective. How did they present this stuff to you, in a lecture or just reading straight from the ITU and AES reports? But you haven't started using it yet?

>>52545583
See>>52537467
rMBP is one of the more capable and powerful laptops with regards to audio output. I guess that makes K1 a bit more questionable, unless you are having specific issues.

>>52544835
M70x. Its really bright that I can heard some unheard cymbal notes on dt880.

>Budget
~$300 (~250€)
>Location
Spain
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Circumaural
>Open or closed
Any would do
>Comfort level
Great, expect to wear them for long sessions
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral and detailed

I plan to use them for music production, that's my main priority. Also, I will use them for videogames from time to time too. I checked a bit by myself and the DT 880s seem to be what I'm looking for but a second opinion doesn't harm.

I need a recommendation on < $100 open headphones. Currently eyeing
>Audio Technica AUD ATH-AD500X
>Sennheiser HD 558
>Grado Prestige Series SR80e
Any other open headphones better than these for < $100?

>>52546068
yeah I like dt880s, but I think they have a slight bassy sound profile
just keep that in mind when working on the music

>>52546097
get 558

>>52545817
want these for my next pair but that won't be for quite some time :(

>>52545011
Let us know how they are, saw those on aliexpress, been wondering if they are worth bothering with.

>>52544743
>>52544799


Is it part of the Etymotic manifesto to make earphones that are as aesthetically repulsive as possible?

>>52546097
HD558
Get a momentum cable and take the lockring out and while you're at it, the foam covering the vent.

>>52546097
Get Grado over Memeheiser

>>52546148
Don't lose hope, time will come also for you.

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>>52545011
>>52546174

I have these on the way. They will probably take 2 more weeks to arrive. I'm kinda regretting not also buying the new dual driver one, the ZS1. Then again, they are twice the price of any other model, and I probably shouldn't overdo it.

>>52546216
The only thing stopping me from picking that up is the flimsy look. I want them to last at least 2 years

>>52545011
>>52546245
>>52546174
Weren't they all supposed to be super bassy?
http://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=cool_review&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=off&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=486

>>52545162
>It fits, although it's more bass light than bright.
Honestly EQ is your solution. There is no perfect candidate to that as I know of.

>>52546181
You don't have many options if you want your earphones to fit inside the ear canal.

>>52545585
>Why do audiophiles hate bass?
They do?

>>52546051
Its response is jagged mess just like all of the closed "studio" Audio-Technicas. It's a V-shaped headphone, too.

>>52545585
because most things have too much bass

>>52545958
Just from readind about it, loudness regulation in Brazil is a mess so this kind of thing is mentioned more as an interesting thing for the future than as something we should be doing right now, which kindda sucks.
Haven't done it yet, but i'm itching to try some new stuff.

>>52546329
Where did you get the frequency response of m70x?

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>>52546068
I use the DT880 for that, it's great form production and good enough for gaming, unless it's a recording session and need more isolation, in which case i go with the v6.
imho neutral i great for production, but as long as you are used to the headphone signature you will have no problems, sure, a wonky signature with no treble and tons of bass is beyong saving, but if it's "neutral enough" to your ears and you know how well produced music sound on it, it will do the trick.

>>52546394
http://ko.goldenears.net/board/5596285
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudioTechnicaATHM70x.pdf

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>>52545607
>Nigger Bass
My favorite meme

>>52546068
K702/612, DT880 (be sure to get either the 250 or the 600 ohm), HD600, Sony MDR V6, AKG K240

>Takstar makes good headphones
>Doesn't bother to have detachable cables on them
Such a shame.

>>52546441
Based on the frequency chart, it seems to be r70x for my ear than m70x one. YMMV, I guess.

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>>52545311
dubs
>>52545588
dubs
>>52546633(me)

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>Wasting £100+ on headphones when they all sound the same

Enjoy your placebo faggots. This is literally all you need

>>52545958
First, thanks for helping, I am still new to all this gear stuff. Basically I am having problems with a slight hiss, and a slightly narrow soundstage/lack of instrument separation. Would that be the headphones themselves, and could the DAC help with that?

I am also buying some foam tips, as I find the rubber ones to be really finicky.

>>52546756
>This is literally all you need
Not entirely accurate, but it's true that for 99% of people the difference will not matter.

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>>52544743

What is currently the best AKG on the market? I don't care about the price, just want the best sound.

Don't care if it's open or closed but I prefer a good dynamic and soundstage, enough bass to enjoy electronic music but well defined enough to pick up details in rock/metal/prog as well. Mosty interested in that feeling of the music coming from around you as opposed to the sensation of it being in your head.

Currently interested in the Q701 but I'm open to any recommendations that fill in the requirements above. Would like something like a top 3 or whatever that would give me some insight and choice. The headphones being comfortable is also a huge plus as I currently have a pair of ATH M50x and they can become really annoying after a few hours because of the hard clamp.

The amp/dac I have is a FiiO E18, I know it's nothing impressive, will update that in the future but for now it will have to do.

Thanks

>>52546882
K612 for open, K550 for closed. K702 has a little more spacious sound and it has a detachable cable, but it's a slightly weaker sub-bass.
You don't need anything too powerful to drive the K612.

> Mosty interested in that feeling of the music coming from around you as opposed to the sensation of it being in your head.
You'll be disappointed because sound always plays in your head after all. The feeling of music playing around also drastically changes according to the track you're listening too and to the perception of your ears.

>>52546882
>I know it's nothing impressive, will update that in the future but for now it will have to do.

If you live in the US you should probably stack some shit.

>>52546998
wouldn't k7xx have the better sound?

>>52546784
The hiss is the electronics, you'll have to do something about that. I suppose that is what K1 is hopefully doing for you. Sounding inside the head is something that headphones tend to do in general.
I forget what tips fit on the RHA. Comply will have a foam sleeve for that, but the durability of Complys is not good.

>>52547073
Maybe, but the K7XX drop ha salready ended. K612 is considered the best open AKG in production now, despite being thr cheapest model. I also heard many people say that the chinese K702 sound very close to the K612. I guess that the K7XX shouldn't sound much different as well.

>>52547017

Nope, Europe

>>52546998

Alright, what makes you recommend the K612 (found the K612 PRO if those are the ones you mean) over say, Q701 or or K702?

I do understand what you mean about the sound still coming from your head in the end and how different people perceive sound differently, though I still wanna put an accent on the fact that I'm leaning towards something more spacious than the closed backs I have at the moment.

>>52547161
>Q701
Q701 is a joke and you shouldn't consider it

k702 is very similar to k612, but has a detachable cable & less bass

>>52547199
>Q701 is a joke

It's pretty much the same as K702 except with headbumps.

>>52547233
yeah and it's 100-200€ more expensive

Atleast over here, not sure how it is in the US or wherever

>>52547269
Q701 is usually the cheapest in the US.

For a couple months recently it was selling at $169 (the black one is at $179 right now), and Amazon had a flash sale on Q701 for like $140.

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>>52547300
I guess you can get them if you can deal with the bumps then

they're 330-380€ in online stores here and pic related on amazon.co.uk

>>52547161
I recommend the K612 because it has higher impedance (even though you mostly don't need a high output impedance amp to drive them) and because it's more neutral than the other models. This doesn't mean that K702 or Q701 are necessarily worss though. I have a chinese K702 and, frankly, I wouldn't want more bass than what I can hear on them, which leads me to believe into what most people say about the chinese K702 being really close to the K612 and the K702 Annie. It's possible that the austrian K702 were really weaker in bass. But well, this aside, the sound differences between Q701 and K702 are minimal (from some graphs it looks like the Q701 has more midbass) and I guess that also the sound differences between the K702 and the K612 aren't so big either.

>>52547300
Like >>52547367 says, things are different in Europe. Last time I checked, ths Q701 were almost 400€ on Amazon.it, whereas the K702 were 175€. I got mine for the 198€ and compared to the X2 I paid 284€ they're unbelievably better.

>>52547428

I see, that's a better explanation than the first time since I have more details in terms of comparison. I understand that they're all somewhat similar sounding and I also assume that they are of good quality in this regard considering the retail price and who makes them. What I mostly want to know is if they would be good as allrounders (rock, electronic, hiphop, metal, classical) and not just light stuff.

Two things I should probably ask in the end to get a better idea of things and I'll decide from there on:

1. Are they all equally comfortable in the sense that I don't have to consider this as an eliminatory feature? The bumps on the Q701 and K702 seem a bit weird so if anyone had them on their heads I'm curious what they feel like (as opposed to the K701s or K612s which have a flat band)

2. As I mentioned in the first post, I don't care about the price since I can get the Q701s for around 80Euros, other models even cheaper. So question would be, are the Q701s worth it for everything they have to offer if I buy them at this price? (sound, detachable cable, comfort, looks, build quality)

PS: Found it interesting nobody mentioned K712, are they recently out and not many had a chance to test them or?

>>52546585

>meme

>>52547552
Usually people prefer the smooth headbands, so get the K702 if it's cheaper (Q701 and K701 are the ones with the bumps).

No one mentions the K712 because the K7xx is almost the same and sells at $200 whenever it's on Massdrop.

They're good all-rounders, but if you listen to a lot of rap/EDM/very bassy music you may want to get the K7xx or a bassier headphone in general. The 702 has adequate bass but it is far from its strong suit, especially if you are used to closed cans.

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Orange did a Marshall.

>>52547625
if you wanted bass wouldn't it be best to get dt880 or dt990

>>52547625
>No one mentions the K712 because the K7xx is almost the same
K7xx is much closer to K702 and Q701 than K712. K712 is just worse than them and more expensive.

>>52547649
fender is doing a marshal too

never heard of orange, what do they make?

>>52547552
> What I mostly want to know is if they would be good as allrounders (rock, electronic, hiphop, metal, classical) and not just light stuff.
As fairly neutral headphones, all of the AKG I mentioned are great allrounders.
>1. Are they all equally comfortable in the sense that I don't have to consider this as an eliminatory feature? The bumps on the Q701 and K702 seem a bit weird so if anyone had them on their heads I'm curious what they feel like (as opposed to the K701s or K612s which have a flat band)
The chinese K702 (like the ones I have) and the K612 have flat headband and yes they're really comfortable. They're very light and the earpads feel loke pillows. I can't say anything about the Q701 and the models with headbumps, I never tried them.
>2. As I mentioned in the first post, I don't care about the price since I can get the Q701s for around 80Euros, other models even cheaper. So question would be, are the Q701s worth it for everything they have to offer if I buy them at this price? (sound, detachable cable, comfort, looks, build quality)
If you want a detachable cable the K702 would be better. If you don't need a drtachable cable, get the K612 and you will be usre that you got a great headphone. Despite being cheap, they're a honourable challenger of mor expensive headphones like the HD600 and the DT880 and I'm sire that the K612 would hold the challenge even against headphones costing three pr four times as much.
>PS: Found it interesting nobody mentioned K712, are they recently out and not many had a chance to test them or?
K712 are overpriced and perform worse than a K702. Like I said, if you get a K612, you basically can be sure of having the best AKG in production now.

>>52547650
Yeah, DT880 would be a better fit if he wanted more bass.

Also, if you have an M50x try stretching it out (look up stretch mod). The clamp lessens significantly after you do it for a few seconds. It's still not "comfortable" because of the shallow earcups but the M50x comfort becomes much more manageable.

>>52547664
Amps with built-in fuzz.

>tfw fidelios

Who else AKG 702? Fuck isolationist fags.

>>52547700
did m50x stop being shitty dt770s yet?
>>52547709
ehh atleast it's closer than instruments

>>52547700

Comfortable M50x? HM5 leather pads

>>52547680

Man, still gets pretty confusing. Though in the end there aren't THAT many models to pick from if I look at it: K612, K701, K702, K712, Q701. Though I'm guessing things would be simpler if say, I want detachable cable and flat band since that would leave me with just 2 options. Though maybe none of these are that important and other headphones with bumpy headband or nondetachable cable sound better. Oh man, it's never easy. Do really appreciate taking the time to help though.

>>52547700
>Also, if you have an M50x try stretching it out (look up stretch mod)

Never tried doing anything silly with the headband since I though I might break them but I'll give it a look.

>>52547700
>Yeah, DT880 would be a better fit if he wanted more bass.
I'm aware DT880s are really good for that though I wouldn't have the occasion of getting them at a different price than retail. Only reason I asked about AKG is that I can get them from someone for dirt cheap.

>>52547797
The M50x reduced the treble peak and increased the bass compared to the original M50, so I'd say it's more bassy than V-shaped at this point.

>>52547868
don't more people like V shaped than bassy though?

what $10 iem should I get

>>52547895
Audio-Technica was probably trying to address comments that the M50 had a slightly hard edge to the treble.

Which is weird because the old M50 (before about 2012) was very bassy, so they just returned it to the original original flavor.

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With how much people praise the 7506, aren't the 681s better (going solely by this chart)

other than the treble peak at 8500Hz, they seem to be smoother

>>52547928
RPHJE120/125

>>52547864
To make things sound less confusing:
1) K702 and K612 have flat headband, all the other models have headbumps.
2) K612 doesn't have a detachable cable, all the other models do.
If a detachable cable isn't a priority to you, get the K612. If it is and you want a flat headband, get a K702. If you don't care about headbumps, consider everything else.

>>52547974
Headroom graphs tend to make headphones look more similar than they are.

Their compensation they apply is kind of weird in that it is very trebly compared to many other sources, so it's not a good thing that the 681 looks much brighter there than the already bright 7506.

>>52547999

Right now I'm terribly sold on the K701 to be honest. Strictly aesthetically speaking I find them the most appealing and professionally looking compared to other plain black or silly neon green ones. Bumps could get some used to and there's a detachable cable, plus points that the box contains a usable stand as well. Hope the sound would be as good as they look.

>>52548070
The Q701 is the one with the detachable cable and comes in three colors (that nasty green, white, and black).

The K701 is the oldest, original model for the whole series, so it does not have a detachable cable.

If you don't mind the bumps, get the white Q701.

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>>52548034
seems like everything has more treble than 7506 though

>>52547999
k7xx doesn't have bumps either

>>52548070
>Strictly aesthetically speaking I find them the most appealing and professionally looking compared to other plain black or silly neon green ones.
why not get beats by dr dre then, they also look aesthetically pleasing and professionally looking

>>52548096
Also just a minor note that all the Q701 cables are neon green, no matter which color you pick for the headphone.

>>52548096
>>52548113

Their webside is pretty confusing then
http://www.akg.com/pro/p/k701

Says yes to detachable cable and shows no bumps in the pictures but they're both the other way around.

>Also just a minor note that all the Q701 cables are neon green, no matter which color you pick for the headphone

This is pretty annoying, that neon green is meh

>>52548111
>why not get beats by dr dre then, they also look aesthetically pleasing and professionally looking

Have you not read my previous posts. Besides, come on, I may not be an expert on headphones but I know enough about Beats to avoid them

>>52547119
Alright cool, is there a law of diminishing returns for DACs though, so like where do they become more about high price fancyness then performance?

>>52548111
The AKG house signature tends to be somewhat bright, so maybe those aren't the best comparisons. It's also a good idea to cross-check with other measurements.

>>52548148
That's strange. Try to confirm with the guy hooking you up to the AKGs, but I'm almost certain K701 is non-detachable.

>>52548148
K612
No detachable cable, more bass, cheap, flat band
K701
No detachable cable, skullbumps
K702
Detachable cable, flat band
K712
Detachable cable, more bass, flat band
Q701
Detachable cable, skullbumps, expensive as fuck in EU
K7XX
Detachable cable, flat band, more bass

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>>52548197
I guess it has a lot of low end treble, but seems to be even on mid end and less on high end treble

Thanks to everyone that helped out with the AKG questions, I'll go over them these days again and see what I find myself most happy with. Cheers

>>52548430
just get 702 or wait for the k7xx sale you fucking nigger

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Whats the best deal you all got on your headphones?

>>52548710
840e for brand new HD 800 over a year ago was a good one.

>>52548171
>is there a law of diminishing returns for DACs though
Absolutely yes. The point is to make them good enough to human ears, which is certainly possible.
>where do they become more about high price fancyness then performance?
It's about performance, and some expensive DACs just try and be different for the sake of being different (read: lower fidelity).

You can get an excellent, "perfect" DAC for much less than a hundred bucks today. Tons of smartphones these days have good converters in them as well. It is very easy to do conversion for audio these days.
I'm pretty sure what you really needed was an adjustment in the gain structure by an attenuator, but a DAC/amp combo does this incidentally on the cheap.

>>52548710
I tried to get a deal on 668bs and got a bad case of tinnitus that is currently making me want to stab myself in the ears with knitting needles.

Never use IEMs. Never fucking use IEMs. Fuck IEMs. Training hearing aid pieces of shit.

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Are there better budget headphones than Sony MDR 7506s for 100 euros? V6 isn't available where I live.

>>52548972
hd558 for 20 more

Heya there, need something to should me from the cunts in my class and at work.

>Budget
50€ at most, nothing fancy
>Location
Germany
>Source
Laptop, Workstation, perhaps Mobile phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed, I need to drown them out
>Comfort level
Should be able to wear them for 8 hours at work without dying
>Preferred tonal balance
>Preferred music
>Past headphones
HD 598

>>52547797

DT770s are so much better than M50x bruh...

>>52549130
40 bucks more where I live, still worth it?

>>52549188
id say its going to depend on how much you can stand the 7506's treble. its pretty ear rapey, but if youve never had trouble with treble in the past, the 7506 is probably the better buy for you. the hd558 tames it down while also being more neutral, and open, so all around better

>>52548972
a lot if you're not looking for nobass neutral sound
if you're looking for neutral, not likely

>>52549132
I think you'll have to work with IEMs if you want good noise isolation & good sound at that price

>>52549220
>ear rape treble on 7506

>>52548274
>>52548111
>>52547974

>>52546329
>There is no perfect candidate to that as I know of.
That's just it.
There are quite a few headphones that can be pointed to as very dark, totally dark, or bassy, but nothing that really fits totally "analytical" as well.

>>52549226
I don't care too much for sound at work or Uni, not having to hear the fucks around me is all I really want.

>>52549243
i mean youre right, its not TOO bad, but it's known to be a trebly headphone. headrooms graphs suck, as a lot of people say here. all their graphs really do make all the headphones seem pretty much the same, where other measuring organizations all have more similarly different results

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Just popping in here to say that I'm still very happy with my DT 880s that I've had for over 3 years. Not seeing myself buying new headphones for a long time

>>52549286
then just get literally any closed headphones
maybe get the SR950 if you can find them for 50

>>52549295
it seems to be the most convenient with the biggest library, which do you recommend then?

So for a week ago i bought the DT770s 250 ohm version.. After today i choosed to put on the bass boost on my Fiio E10k to blow up my head while playing battlefield... And i just wanted to listen to a bass test before it and when i did with the headphones maxed out with the fiio e10k (high gain) with bass boost on, left cup had this muddring bass that sounded like it couldnt handle it or sounded like it had broken bass or something like that. But listening without bass boost sounds much better. I cant take them back right? And there not broken because they sound perfect without the bass boost and belive me, its just to much bass. But only the left cup is sounding broken, the right one is perfect. Can i take them back and say that i used an amp and the left cup seems broken?

I'm looking to try a pair of open backed headphones. Any reccomendations for a starter pair for under 40 USD? Already own a set of MemeTechnica M50s.

I bought the dt770s, the left cup is muddring with the bass boost on with the E10k, should i bring em back? They sound just fine with the soundcard im using tho... But only the left cup is fucking up. Can i say that the left cup seems broken?

>>52546097
SHP9500 dont listen to the sennshills

>>52547719
Anyone got experience with the Fidelio X2? Are they any good?

>>52549392

Superlux HD668B with other pads, shits on meme50

>>52549380
>>52549406
sorry for doublepost XD

>>52549436

I had them and i think they sound amazing but there is fags and alot of them who like plat and boring sound so dont ask /g/, get ur ass to head fi or something..

>>52546253
I've had my Grado's for ~4 years and they are actually way more sturdy then you'd imagine, I have a hard time recommending lower end Grado's though if you're not planning on modifying them at all. Wood cups, venting driver cloth, etc.

>>52549392
are hi2050 40$?
I know they're the cheapest decent open back headphones

>>52549436
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/philips-fidelio-x2?utm_placement=2&referer=2YVXYC&mode=guest_open&
sale on massdrop for them right now, but people say it's a failed batch with shitty sound

that being said, wherever you're buying from might have the shitty batch too, so be careful with buying them

>>52549380
>250 ohm

>>52549501

dafuck do u mean?

>>52549518
good job specifying which I'm talking about
I'm assuming you're the dt770fag, in which case
80 ohms > 250 ohms version

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What do you guys think about the new BLUE Cans ?

>>52549466
i have been using my good old pair of K701 for a few years now and im getting a bit bored with them and fidelios looked really interesting to me.
>>52549501
for some reason they are like 230eur locally in finland so im not getting them from massdrop

>>52548931
Really, dude? I've been playing my Pistons V3 and Senn CX 200 loud without any problems. The one time I tested a friend's DT 770 on mild volume, I got a buzz in my ears for three days.

Well-isolating IEMs with a sensible sound signature are safer than over-ear bass cannons / treble chainsaws.

>>52549556
>for some reason
sounds like a failed batch, find some way to specifically determine if they aren't

if they're not it's a great deal

>>52549534

>100% sennshills

>>52549556
Try to audition it by yourself? If you're into the sound of your K701, I doubt you'll really liked fidelios. Impressed, maybe.

>>52549603
>don't even talk about sennheiser
wat

>>52549607
i have grados too and i really like how they sound. not sure if they would compare. dont really know where i would get to try them
>>52549598
actually they were 200eur with free shipping from a webstore. things shouldnt be cheaper here ever since we have pretty high taxes on importing

>>52549664
Grados will be different from Fidelios. I didn't like grado though, you need to modify it to get some decent comfort.

>>52549324
its definitely convenient. they should definitely just open source is as a framework for plottable measurements or something. i like using either IF or goldenears

>>52549616

>hates on dt770

>sennshill

>>52549556

Do it, i have mine home but im not using them right now.. buying new headphones every week xd but they are still great desu

>>52549436
Yes, I got two, they both had glued earpads. They were very comfortable at the beginning, but they became a bit less comfortable over time due to their weight and the earpads becoming itchy. Sound-wise I thought they sounded good at the beginning, when I was still excited for my first pair of "good" and expensive headphones, until I realized that for some strange reason their midbass overshadowed guitars, piano and sometimes even vocals I was used to hear in my recordings with 20€ headphones. Then I bought a K702 because I was interested to try something different and it was like night and day. I returned my X2 back to Amazon, got a full refund and started listening to music how it was created and supposed to be with the K702.

>>52548815
Alright cool, so I guess I will see how the MA350 + K1 + Comply tips setup works.

Thanks for the information man :D

>>52549844

I'l rather have fun listening to my headphones than sitting listening to boring music.

>>52549835
>say 250 ohms is worse than 80 ohms
>somehow hating on dt770

>dt770 somehow competing with any sennheiser headphones

>>52549844
when did you get them?
There's been reports of shitty muddy bass on the bad batch, yours was prob part of it too apparently

>>52549782
fuck it's annoying not having that overlaying different colours graph shit from headroom

>>52549835
>>52549844
Honestly iv read so much negative posts on them now that i properly researched them i think im not going to get them even tough i could just return them after i tried them

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>Budget
£350> preferably but flexible

>Location
UK

>Source
Laptop, PC, phone

>Preferred type of headphone
Overear

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Anything not noticeably uncomfortable

>Preferred music
Varied, but a lot of Techno lately

>>52546245
I have the ZS1 and the ATE. They are meh and have heavy bass and little to no highs.

>>52549878
> neutral response
> boring
This is not how it works. A neutral headphone makes you appreciate the recording for how it is, not for how they should sound at parties. When you say that you love listening to music on your X2, it doesn't mean that you love your music for how it is, it simply means that you love the rainbow your X2 apply on the music. If a recording on a neutral can sounds boring to you, blame the poor quality of either the recording itself or your music taste.

>>52549901
>fuck it's annoying not having that overlaying different colours graph shit from headroom
yep
tyll, the main guy at IF, is currently trying to get some financing and a good quote with a software company on making a system for this

>>52549913
are the negative posts recent?
I still stand by it that the original non shit batch ones are very good at that price point, it's just unlikely that they're a non shit batch

>>52549922
MSR7 is as far as I know good closed headphones go

>>52549957
isn't it extremely simple to do?
I could probably wrestle something together in like an hour or two, but without the databases you can't do shit

I need of advice...

>Budget
<$30
>Location
US
>Source
phone/ipod
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM, preferably one I can run with
>Comfort level
comfortable
>Preferred music
shoegaze

Anyone here ever recable an IEM?

>>52549922
nad hp50, unless you want that bass and want to spend a lot more money, oppo pm-3

>>52549978
>isn't it extremely simple to do?
well, thats the basic of the basics that he wants done. i wont even start to describe everything he wants. it would be better to talk to him, who has the databases, about what he wants to extract from it, and how he wants it laid out. im sure hes given quite a bit of thought into it and thus has some decent ideas

>>52549978
most of them are a month old or so

>>52550023
yeah that's most likely all just the bad batch
unless it's a physical store, I wouldn't go through the effort of checking

>>52544743
>just bought a Sennheiser 598, partially on a whim because needed a pair and a friend speaks highly of them.
Welp. At least they were on sale on amazon right now.
Guess I'll see how I'll like them in a few days.

>>52549982
piston 3

What do you guys do for glasses and headphones?
Last pair I had were too tight and made my glasses go diagonal, had to return them.
>brainwavz or something if you're curious.

Anyone got amp/dac recommandations for the k7xx ?

>>52550317
how much do you want to spend?

>>52550326
I don't really have a budget but I guess around 100 euros or something should get me something going also I don't have any amp or dac at the moment.

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>>52550317
Fiio E10K.
Have you already bought the K7XX?

>>52550352
yes you do have a dac, and if you dont hear any problems, you dont need one. with that budget id say you should just get an amp like the magni 2 or objective 2 if your current dac has no problems. otherwise just get an E10K

>>52550353
It's on the way, picked it up during the massdrop. I currently have a shure srh750dj and a hd280pro and trying to get something good.

i just looked at the time randomly, and it was 6:12.
should i buy a k612?

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>>52549844
you are correct.

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>>52550157
Take them off for maximum comfort. Mine have thin arms so they can stay on fine.

Budget around 50€
Germany (amazon)
Closed on ear

I was thinking about the AKG K451... are they allright?

>>52550642
>hd600
>better than anything
T O P K E K
O
P
K
E
K

someone post the tyll headphone pain audition webm thing pls

What are your thoughts on audiophile quality USB cables for DACs? Is it really a con?

>>52551121
yes, it doesnt make any difference at all

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H-Hello

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Got my Sony MDR-7506's today.
I asked about them yesterday or 2 nights ago and you guys helped me.

I like them. I'm already noticing more to the songs I tried it on compared to what I had before which was essentially equivalent to soundmagic e10s. They're very comfortable too. At first I thought that the coiled cord would hang off of it and make a weird weight that jiggles with your every move but it doesn't at all. My only complaint is minor in that they could be just a little tighter on my head but I have a lot of hair and I'm not moving it out of the way from my ears. Just the same, it's not slipping so that's good.
Sorry, I don't have many words for the technical descriptions of sound but I think it is very neutral. The bass doesn't overpower the rest of the sound and there are no sharp hits on the treble.

I'd say they'll make a great intro to increasing your listening quality for ~$100 headphones if you don't know what you're doing like I don't.

I recommend it.

>>52551237
Oh and I suppose I'll make one of these >>52551205 in like 3 hours (my computer screen is facing the entire, THE ENTIRE house).

I will always buy Sennheiser™ because I only play music with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser also pioneers innovative new technologies like E.A.R™ and the highest quality headphones to ever grace /g/.
When I boot up foobar2000 with a brand new Sennheiser™ HD800™ with the Death Grips album, I can enjoy the music the way they where meant to be with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser™ also delivers a far more silkysmooth soundstage with its E.A.R Technology™.
Sennheiser HD 558™ is also very power efficient. A headphone is the most power hungry device in your house. Air conditioners, water heaters, lights, etc all use less power than a headphone. Which is why Sennheiser™ puts audiophiles first by ensuring that their listening experience is of the highest quality while looking out for audiophiles by giving them the most value in their electrical bill.
At this point in time, there's really no reasons to consider an AKG headphone at all. I tried once, it caused so much tin that it exploded and nearly burnt down my house. It also consumed so much power that it produced an EMP and destroyed not only the rest of my computer but my entire neighborhood.
Sennheiser™ also pioneered how useless MORE DRIVERS is with the HD™ series headphones. Years ago, everyone thought MORE DRIVERS were the future. Now, Sennheiser™ has debunked that myth entirely and increased efficiency. Now you can save thousands a year in electricity thanks to Sennheiser™ with its powerful drivers. MORE DRIVERS will never be part of Sennheiser's™ line up.
It's quite clear that OPs an AKG shill trying to convince you to settle on something less than the optimal experience with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser™ is the only real way to play music. He is probably too poor to afford the Sennheiser™ experience and can not afford to play any music.
Don't be a poor audiophile with bad headphones and a huge power bills. Play music with Sennheiser™

>>52551274
I used to like Sennheisers until my HD598s fucking snapped on me just because I stood up a bit too fast while the cord was tangled. Snapped clean in half. Fuck that. Never buying Sennheiser again.

I will always buy Sennheiser™ because I only play music with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser also pioneers innovative new technologies like E.A.R™ and the highest quality headphones to ever grace /g/.
When I boot up foobar2000 with a brand new Sennheiser™ HD800™ with the Death Grips album, I can enjoy the music the way they where meant to be with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser™ also delivers a far more silkysmooth soundstage with its E.A.R Technology™.
Sennheiser HD 558™ is also very power efficient. A headphone is the most power hungry device in your house. Air conditioners, water heaters, lights, etc all use less power than a headphone. Which is why Sennheiser™ puts audiophiles first by ensuring that their listening experience is of the highest quality while looking out for audiophiles by giving them the most value in their electrical bill.
At this point in time, there's really no reasons to consider an AKG headphone at all. I tried once, it caused so much tin that it exploded and nearly burnt down my house. It also consumed so much power that it produced an EMP and destroyed not only the rest of my computer but my entire neighborhood.
Sennheiser™ also pioneered how useless MORE DRIVERS is with the HD™ series headphones. Years ago, everyone thought MORE DRIVERS were the future. Now, Sennheiser™ has debunked that myth entirely and increased efficiency. Now you can save thousands a year in electricity thanks to Sennheiser™ with its powerful drivers. MORE DRIVERS will never be part of Sennheiser's™ line up.
It's quite clear that OPs an AKG shill trying to convince you to settle on something less than the optimal experience with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser™ is the only real way to play music. He is probably too poor to afford the Sennheiser™ experience and can not afford to play any music.
Don't be a poor audiophile with bad headphones and a huge power bills. Play music with Sennheiser™

I will always buy Sennheiser™ because I only play music with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser also pioneers innovative new technologies like E.A.R™ and the highest quality headphones to ever grace /g/.
When I boot up foobar2000 with a brand new Sennheiser™ HD800™ with the Death Grips album, I can enjoy the music the way they where meant to be with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser™ also delivers a far more silkysmooth soundstage with its E.A.R Technology™.
Sennheiser HD 558™ is also very power efficient. A headphone is the most power hungry device in your house. Air conditioners, water heaters, lights, etc all use less power than a headphone. Which is why Sennheiser™ puts audiophiles first by ensuring that their listening experience is of the highest quality while looking out for audiophiles by giving them the most value in their electrical bill.
At this point in time, there's really no reasons to consider an AKG headphone at all. I tried once, it caused so much tin that it exploded and nearly burnt down my house. It also consumed so much power that it produced an EMP and destroyed not only the rest of my computer but my entire neighborhood.
Sennheiser™ also pioneered how useless MORE DRIVERS is with the HD™ series headphones. Years ago, everyone thought MORE DRIVERS were the future. Now, Sennheiser™ has debunked that myth entirely and increased efficiency. Now you can save thousands a year in electricity thanks to Sennheiser™ with its powerful drivers. MORE DRIVERS will never be part of Sennheiser's™ line up.
It's quite clear that OPs an AKG shill trying to convince you to settle on something less than the optimal experience with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser™ is the only real way to play music. He is probably too poor to afford the Sennheiser™ experience and can not afford to play any music.
Don't be a poor audiophile with bad headphones and a huge power bills. Play music with Sennheiser™

>>52550642
i hate the x2 but i think the hd600 is overrated as fuck too

I will always buy Sennheiser™ because I only play music with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser also pioneers innovative new technologies like E.A.R™ and the highest quality headphones to ever grace /g/.
When I boot up foobar2000 with a brand new Sennheiser™ HD800™ with the Death Grips album, I can enjoy the music the way they where meant to be with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser™ also delivers a far more silkysmooth soundstage with its E.A.R Technology™.
Sennheiser HD 558™ is also very power efficient. A headphone is the most power hungry device in your house. Air conditioners, water heaters, lights, etc all use less power than a headphone. Which is why Sennheiser™ puts audiophiles first by ensuring that their listening experience is of the highest quality while looking out for audiophiles by giving them the most value in their electrical bill.
At this point in time, there's really no reasons to consider an AKG headphone at all. I tried once, it caused so much tin that it exploded and nearly burnt down my house. It also consumed so much power that it produced an EMP and destroyed not only the rest of my computer but my entire neighborhood.
Sennheiser™ also pioneered how useless MORE DRIVERS is with the HD™ series headphones. Years ago, everyone thought MORE DRIVERS were the future. Now, Sennheiser™ has debunked that myth entirely and increased efficiency. Now you can save thousands a year in electricity thanks to Sennheiser™ with its powerful drivers. MORE DRIVERS will never be part of Sennheiser's™ line up.
It's quite clear that OPs an AKG shill trying to convince you to settle on something less than the optimal experience with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser™ is the only real way to play music. He is probably too poor to afford the Sennheiser™ experience and can not afford to play any music.
Don't be a poor audiophile with bad headphones and a huge power bills. Play music with Sennheiser™

>>52551553
This is the best pasta.

>Budget
Under $200 AUD
>Location
Australia
>Source
Computer (ASUS Z-170P on-board sound)
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear, circumaural
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
More important than sound quality
>Preferred music
K-pop
>Intended usage
Listening to music, voice chat, video games

>>52551730
hd558

>>52551730
AKG K612 pro

>>52551777
fuck off sennshill

I will always buy Sennheiser™ because I only play music with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser also pioneers innovative new technologies like E.A.R™ and the highest quality headphones to ever grace /g/.
When I boot up foobar2000 with a brand new Sennheiser™ HD800™ with the Death Grips album, I can enjoy the music the way they where meant to be with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser™ also delivers a far more silkysmooth soundstage with its E.A.R Technology™.
Sennheiser HD 558™ is also very power efficient. A headphone is the most power hungry device in your house. Air conditioners, water heaters, lights, etc all use less power than a headphone. Which is why Sennheiser™ puts audiophiles first by ensuring that their listening experience is of the highest quality while looking out for audiophiles by giving them the most value in their electrical bill.
At this point in time, there's really no reasons to consider an AKG headphone at all. I tried once, it caused so much tin that it exploded and nearly burnt down my house. It also consumed so much power that it produced an EMP and destroyed not only the rest of my computer but my entire neighborhood.
Sennheiser™ also pioneered how useless MORE DRIVERS is with the HD™ series headphones. Years ago, everyone thought MORE DRIVERS were the future. Now, Sennheiser™ has debunked that myth entirely and increased efficiency. Now you can save thousands a year in electricity thanks to Sennheiser™ with its powerful drivers. MORE DRIVERS will never be part of Sennheiser's™ line up.
It's quite clear that OPs an AKG shill trying to convince you to settle on something less than the optimal experience with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser™ is the only real way to play music. He is probably too poor to afford the Sennheiser™ experience and can not afford to play any music.
Don't be a poor audiophile with bad headphones and a huge power bills. Play music with Sennheiser™

>>52551021
>20 year old headphone is better than new reddit headphones

embarrassing son.

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Are the 65 annie or k712 pads available anywhere?
Anything else like those?

>>52551966
AKG is better tbqh

>>52551554
I'd have to hear the k702 to tell.

>>52551979
Are they not solid on Amazon?

>>52551999
I doubt there's any difference

>>52552021
Sold*

>>52552021
Not that I see.

>>52552100
My bad I didn't see you wanted just pads
>Arent akg7__ pads identical?

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>>52548972
Wait, who is that? Kinda looks like Pile.

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>>52552640
/a/utist here, how did /g/ come to hijack Maki?

Are the HD558s considered bassy?

>>52552866
no

>>52552866
Only midbassy. Not so much bass extension.

I got a pair of K702s last week but don't have an amp yet; I ordered one but it hasn't arrived yet. So I've just been listening to it straight plugged into my PC and I notice that there's significantly less bass compared to my HD558s.... Maybe not "significantly" but it's noticeable, and more importantly the highs seem too high since I have to turn the volume way up to hear the whole sound. Could this simply be because I don't have an amp yet? I should probably just wait till I get my amp and see what they sound like but I'm impatient and curious.

>>52553142
You may just not like them. If you want nigger bass you surely wont.

An quality amp does change them slightly though.

>>52553142
>the highs seem too high
If I remember the differences right, the main deviation points should be around 2kHz and 7khz
>Could this simply be because I don't have an amp yet?
Besides loudness contour effects, I don't expect anything. Is the 702 loud enough for you?

>>52553233
No, it's very quiet compared to other headphones I have. I have to turn the volume up much higher to hear it at the same level on my phone and PC

>>52553275
Being insensitive is not a problem. Does it get loud enough?

>>52553288
To compare, I normally listen with my 558s on my PC with the volume at 20-25 for comfortable listening. With the K702s I have to turn it up to 60 or so for a similar level. So yeah, in that sense it does get loud enough, but like I said, when I do so, the highs seem a bit too high. My ears almost feel like they're ringing from the high pitch afterwards if I listen higher than that for awhile.

>>52553386
right, so it has too much treble for you. and the measurements do show this. you can either eq them down, or send them back, since the 558 is more neutral anyway

>>52553386
>>52553275
>>52553142
You can hear the treble more because it isn't being overpowered.
>>52553412
This guy is back...

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Who makes the best looking headphones and why is it akg?

>>52553142
K702 is more insensitive than its 62 ohm suggests, so it might improve with amping.

Both HD558 and K702 are considered relatively bass-light. I think all the Sennheisers have an impedance spike near 100Hz that might make the bass sound a little boomy without a proper source, so it might be worth it as well to check the 558 bass on the amp.

>>52553386
The K702 is fairly bright and does have treble spikes near 2.4khz and 7khz that you may be sensitive to. Again, you can see how it sounds with an amp and decide from there.

>>52553511
no, the treble is too powerful on the k702, it overshadows everything else too much. you would know this if you knew what neutral was supposed to sound/look like.

the k612 is more neutral than the k702 even, he might be able to get that, but that might also be too bright for him compared to the 558. he would have to test to see...

>>52553585
FR charts retard. Like always with your trolling bullshit.

>>52553614
and yet this guys experience is exactly as the charts say. a correlation? of course not, it goes against your beloved headphones!

>>52553412
>>52553565
Thanks for the help. I'll listen when the e10k arrives and post my thoughts then

>>52553626
Idk what charts you're looking at that shows the Sennheisers being more neutral.

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>>52553654
???

>>52553768
Nice Russian bullshit.

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>>52553777
Have you really never seen these charts before?

>>52553794
>akg weeaboos
>capable of reading charts
they wouldn't be spouting nonsense like "they hvae enough bass" and "they're neutral" if they could.

http://www.networkworld.com/article/3022420/ios/iphone-7-why-abandoning-the-headphone-jack-makes-sense.html

So why do you still use headphones with cords?

>>52553809
are you trying to imply we should use phones to power headphones when at home?

>>52553829
i think he has no idea what hes implying

>>52553809
>Lightning port provides noise cancelling when you listen to music.

Why.jpg

Convince me to why Over ear cans are better than IEM.
I got some ATH m50x and looking for a change.

>>52553911
>>52553911
>Convince me to why Over ear cans are better than IEM.
those would have to be some elaborate lies because
Speakers >>>> IEMs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Headphones

>>52553911
IEMs are generally more fragile and uncomfortable.

>>52553809
>In turn, this would allow Apple to make the iPhone 7 form factor thinner
Like that turned out well last time.

>>52553804
>>52553794
Nice bullshit charts as usual Senshils.

>>52553994
>it doesn't agree with my single, cherrypicked graph therefore it's bullshit
weeaboo logic

>>52553794
I'm not sure that chart is legit.

>>52553911
>Convince me
Why should we?

>>52553804
>fr autists
>capable of understanding anything other than a chart
pick one

>>52554129
>akg weeaboos
>capable of buying a good headphone
pick one

>>52553794
That made my ears bleed just looking at it.

>>52554223
sennshill faggotron

>>52554020
The Headroom and innerfidelity charts show otherwise.

>>52554262
>headroom
absolute garbage
>innerfidelity
tyll's compensation curve is shitty around the upper midrange as you can probably tell from shit like the hd800 and dt880 not having obvious dips around there

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>>52553994
>charts are bullshit and people are sennshills because I don't agree with them

All right dude.

I do think the K702 is relatively neutral, but there are clear deviances.

>>52554305
>some sad akg weeaboo took the time to type this up before

>>52554284
>>52554304
Do you even understand what the graphs are saying? Because I'm not sure you do.

>>52554322
>weeaboo is the only insult I can think of

>>52554322
I will always buy Sennheiser™ because I only play music with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser also pioneers innovative new technologies like E.A.R™ and the highest quality headphones to ever grace /g/.
When I boot up foobar2000 with a brand new Sennheiser™ HD800™ with the Death Grips album, I can enjoy the music the way they where meant to be with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser™ also delivers a far more silkysmooth soundstage with its E.A.R Technology™.
Sennheiser HD 558™ is also very power efficient. A headphone is the most power hungry device in your house. Air conditioners, water heaters, lights, etc all use less power than a headphone. Which is why Sennheiser™ puts audiophiles first by ensuring that their listening experience is of the highest quality while looking out for audiophiles by giving them the most value in their electrical bill.
At this point in time, there's really no reasons to consider an AKG headphone at all. I tried once, it caused so much tin that it exploded and nearly burnt down my house. It also consumed so much power that it produced an EMP and destroyed not only the rest of my computer but my entire neighborhood.
Sennheiser™ also pioneered how useless MORE DRIVERS is with the HD™ series headphones. Years ago, everyone thought MORE DRIVERS were the future. Now, Sennheiser™ has debunked that myth entirely and increased efficiency. Now you can save thousands a year in electricity thanks to Sennheiser™ with its powerful drivers. MORE DRIVERS will never be part of Sennheiser's™ line up.
It's quite clear that OPs an AKG shill trying to convince you to settle on something less than the optimal experience with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser™ is the only real way to play music. He is probably too poor to afford the Sennheiser™ experience and can not afford to play any music.
Don't be a poor audiophile with bad headphones and a huge power bills. Play music with Sennheiser™

>>52554348
yes, they're saying the k702 have the standard akg midrange hump (akg tin), lack bass and are bright.

>>52554365
I will always buy Sennheiser™ because I only play music with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser also pioneers innovative new technologies like E.A.R™ and the highest quality headphones to ever grace /g/.
When I boot up foobar2000 with a brand new Sennheiser™ HD800™ with the Death Grips album, I can enjoy the music the way they where meant to be with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser™ also delivers a far more silkysmooth soundstage with its E.A.R Technology™.
Sennheiser HD 558™ is also very power efficient. A headphone is the most power hungry device in your house. Air conditioners, water heaters, lights, etc all use less power than a headphone. Which is why Sennheiser™ puts audiophiles first by ensuring that their listening experience is of the highest quality while looking out for audiophiles by giving them the most value in their electrical bill.
At this point in time, there's really no reasons to consider an AKG headphone at all. I tried once, it caused so much tin that it exploded and nearly burnt down my house. It also consumed so much power that it produced an EMP and destroyed not only the rest of my computer but my entire neighborhood.
Sennheiser™ also pioneered how useless MORE DRIVERS is with the HD™ series headphones. Years ago, everyone thought MORE DRIVERS were the future. Now, Sennheiser™ has debunked that myth entirely and increased efficiency. Now you can save thousands a year in electricity thanks to Sennheiser™ with its powerful drivers. MORE DRIVERS will never be part of Sennheiser's™ line up.
It's quite clear that OPs an AKG shill trying to convince you to settle on something less than the optimal experience with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser™ is the only real way to play music. He is probably too poor to afford the Sennheiser™ experience and can not afford to play any music.
Don't be a poor audiophile with bad headphones and a huge power bills. Play music with Sennheiser™

tylls compensated curve is bad, and he admits that. but the raw data is still there, and it shows the usual shit: k702 too bright, hd558 is more neutral

>>52554517
>I can't read graphs
Or you just use some Russian trash to support your sennshit.

>>52554517
>compensated curve is bad
Not particularly.
>k702 too bright
It show a warm sounding headphone
>558
598. That is measured as being even more dreadfully midbassy.

Suggestions plz

>Budget
$100-150
>Location
US
>Source
Bluetooth
>Type
full sized, closed
>comfort
just fuck my ears up
>music
folk, rap, electronic

Willing to get it used/refurbished if available. I'm eyeing the beats wireless at $130 used but am hesitant for obvious reasons. Can I do much better at that price point?

>>52554561
Doctorhead, rinchoi, and goldenears all agree about the basic sound signature of the K702, so I'm not sure what you're mad about.

>>52554596
>k702
>warm

>>52554596
>k702
>warm
said no one ever.

>>52554615
/hpg/ doesn't know much about bluetooth, but they do get triggered by it.

Unfortunately, I can't prove an exception here, as the only one I know is the Mee Air-Fi Matrix 2. It's decent for what it is, hopefully there is something more robust at higher price points.

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>>52554630
>Doctorhead, rinchoi, and goldenears all agree about the basic sound signature of the K702, so I'm not sure what you're mad about.

Cool subjectivity Sennshill. I'll stick to objective graphs not from Russia than you very much.

>>52554662
no, that's most people. they're stuck with the assumption that bluetooth is terrible because they haven't heard 4.0.

>>52554675
But only one of those are Russian.

I kind of feel sorry for you.

>>52554715
stop responding to blatant shitposting. at this point it's safe to assume any post recommending akg headphones is shitposting.

>>52554715
>B-b-b-b-but I only used one complete shit graph

Fuck off.

>>52554662
Those look pretty nice for <$100. I'll keep them in mind, thanks.

>>52554738
Doctorhead is reputable though and have been brought up in /hpg/ in the past, so you're probably yet another person who came here after recently buying headphones over the holidays to shill your latest purchase.

>>52554736
I can't help it.

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>sennshills
>even once

>>52554812
>upper midrange tinny crap
>bright
>nobass
this is warm how?

>>52554835
Muh nigger bass

I said they were neutral not warm.

>>52554864
they're not neutral at all. far from it.

>>52554868
Looks pretty flat to me.

>>52554876
is this the first fr graph you're ever seen in your life?

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>>52554884
Compared to the 800

>>52555019
now compare to the dt880 and hd600

>>52554999
Do you ever stop and think about how embarrassing your copypasta spam looks to an outside observer?

I mean, once or twice sure, but this many repeated posts? It's rare that you can see someone else's frustration so clearly over the internet.

inb4 you reply with the same pasta

>>52555036
No exaggerate bass like the hd600

>>52555088
>hd600
>exaggerated bass
man you know these akg shills are fucking retarded when they say shit like this.

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>>52555098

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Suggestions for poorfag sound amp?
Like is there anything in the $20-$40 range that's worth a damn or is something that low quality a detriment to your listening experience? Because I was reading some things I really didn't understand that said some crap about sound being the best when it's as loud as it can go and then you let these things take over and adjust the volume... and I don't know.

tl;dr: poorfag $20-$40 computer amp.
Also: >>52551237 >>52551261
Yay.

>>52555109
thanks for showing how nobass the hd600 are.

>>52555088
>hd600
>exaggerate bass

You know, usually people bash the HD600 for not having enough bass. You could at least point out how the subbass extension on the HD600 is bad, but exaggerated bass? Really?

>>52555117
you don't need an amp.

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>>52555019
And again.

>>52555125
>but exaggerated bass? Really?
Midbass yes.

>>52555123
>>52555125
And you say I can't read graphs...

>>52555165
k702 and hd600 are pretty equal in midbass

>>52555173
FYI, the graph sloping -downward- doesn't mean 'more' bass.

>>52555062
I will always buy Sennheiser™ because I only play music with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser also pioneers innovative new technologies like E.A.R™ and the highest quality headphones to ever grace /g/.
When I boot up foobar2000 with a brand new Sennheiser™ HD800™ with the Death Grips album, I can enjoy the music the way they where meant to be with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser™ also delivers a far more silkysmooth soundstage with its E.A.R Technology™.
Sennheiser HD 558™ is also very power efficient. A headphone is the most power hungry device in your house. Air conditioners, water heaters, lights, etc all use less power than a headphone. Which is why Sennheiser™ puts audiophiles first by ensuring that their listening experience is of the highest quality while looking out for audiophiles by giving them the most value in their electrical bill.
At this point in time, there's really no reasons to consider an AKG headphone at all. I tried once, it caused so much tin that it exploded and nearly burnt down my house. It also consumed so much power that it produced an EMP and destroyed not only the rest of my computer but my entire neighborhood.
Sennheiser™ also pioneered how useless MORE DRIVERS is with the HD™ series headphones. Years ago, everyone thought MORE DRIVERS were the future. Now, Sennheiser™ has debunked that myth entirely and increased efficiency. Now you can save thousands a year in electricity thanks to Sennheiser™ with its powerful drivers. MORE DRIVERS will never be part of Sennheiser's™ line up.
It's quite clear that OPs an AKG shill trying to convince you to settle on something less than the optimal experience with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser™ is the only real way to play music. He is probably too poor to afford the Sennheiser™ experience and can not afford to play any music.
Don't be a poor audiophile with bad headphones and a huge power bills. Play music with Sennheiser™

>>52555184
>k702 and hd600 are pretty equal in midbass
They both have too much midbass.

>>52555139
I'll take your word for it.

>>52555225
falling into the 'amps make it sound better' trap is something you don't want to do.

>>52555196
I hope you're not actually a paid shill because this is a pretty good way to damage brand perception.

I mean, imagine some dude just coming into the thread for a recommendation and he sees this. Then he thinks, "Wow, this guy is really mad that he is losing an argument on the internet about his AKG headphones. Do I want to be associated with a loser like this?"

Nah just kidding, I'll stop baiting you now :^)

>>52555184
>FYI, the graph sloping -downward- doesn't mean 'more' bass.
Doesn't mean accurate bass either.

>>52555285
of course, yet akg weeaboos and sennshills still try to imply otherwise.

>>52555311
All I said was the K702 were neutral. Some retard said otherwise while spouting shit about Sennheiser and linking Russian graphs.

>>52555338
>while spouting shit about Sennheiser and linking Russian graphs.

Not him, but I wasn't saying stuff about Sennheiser.

I just jumped into your debate with that guy by posting the Russian graph (my first post in that conversation) and two other ones, all of which are from reputable sources by the way. Not my fault if this is your first time seeing doctorhead graphs.

>>52555409
>Russian
>reputable
No retard. Just no.

>>52555338
>says bass is inaccurate
>says they're neutral
you're sending mixed messages here, bass frequencies aren't somehow magically exempt from neutrality.

>>52555424
>headroom
>reputable

>>52555424
Are you grasping at straws this hard?

Just because you've never heard of it and dislike it doesn't mean it somehow isn't valid. Doctorhead's results correlate with goldenears quite well, so would you like to dismiss GE because they're Korean as well?

>>52555253
I will always buy Sennheiser™ because I only play music with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser also pioneers innovative new technologies like E.A.R™ and the highest quality headphones to ever grace /g/.
When I boot up foobar2000 with a brand new Sennheiser™ HD800™ with the Death Grips album, I can enjoy the music the way they where meant to be with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser™ also delivers a far more silkysmooth soundstage with its E.A.R Technology™.
Sennheiser HD 558™ is also very power efficient. A headphone is the most power hungry device in your house. Air conditioners, water heaters, lights, etc all use less power than a headphone. Which is why Sennheiser™ puts audiophiles first by ensuring that their listening experience is of the highest quality while looking out for audiophiles by giving them the most value in their electrical bill.
At this point in time, there's really no reasons to consider an AKG headphone at all. I tried once, it caused so much tin that it exploded and nearly burnt down my house. It also consumed so much power that it produced an EMP and destroyed not only the rest of my computer but my entire neighborhood.
Sennheiser™ also pioneered how useless MORE DRIVERS is with the HD™ series headphones. Years ago, everyone thought MORE DRIVERS were the future. Now, Sennheiser™ has debunked that myth entirely and increased efficiency. Now you can save thousands a year in electricity thanks to Sennheiser™ with its powerful drivers. MORE DRIVERS will never be part of Sennheiser's™ line up.
It's quite clear that OPs an AKG shill trying to convince you to settle on something less than the optimal experience with Sennheiser™. Sennheiser™ is the only real way to play music. He is probably too poor to afford the Sennheiser™ experience and can not afford to play any music.
Don't be a poor audiophile with bad headphones and a huge power bills. Play music with Sennheiser™

>>52555452
Please stop. I've seen this shit before. Please. Go fuck off. There's nothing wrong with K702s. They're wonderful neutral headphones.

>>52555492
fuck off shitposter.

>>52555492
Oh my God, I see you have moved into the "denial" stage now and have metaphorically covered your ears.

I'll quote myself in >>52554304
>I do think the K702 is relatively neutral, but there are clear deviances.
>I do think the K702 is relatively neutral

It's just headphones, calm down. Nothing is perfect.

>>52555526
>>52555527
>objective graphs not from Russia
>denial
Choose one

>>52555572
>that disgusting 2-3khz hump
don't even need the filename to know it's akg

>>52555547
>ignoring the wide selection of sources posted and using "Russia" as a flimsy excuse to dismiss everything

You can enjoy your K702, you know. They're good headphones. But you should work on that post-purchase fanboyism of yours.

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It was such great thread and now it devolved to few retards shitflingling at each other.
I hope you choke on your own dicks you dumb faggots.

>>52555586
But your Russia source ignore all 1st word sources?
'
OK GUY!

>>52555611
>But your Russia source ignore all 1st word sources?

What are you even saying here?

>>52555622
basically he likes to cherrypick his graphs from sites with awful compensations because they're the only thing that make the k702 look decent.

>>52555640
Well, I'm telling him to not get so defensive, every headphone has flaws.

I mean >>52555628 literally says "Well-designed circum-aural headphone closely matching the diffuse field response target."

>>52555622
>>52555673
Try harder

>>52555681
Even facts and reasonableness are powerless against pure stubbornness, I suppose.

We're all wasting time out of our lives posting on the technology section of a Chinese cartoon board. Take it easy.

>>52555710
Regardless man. I'll stick with 1st world resources. There's multiple.

>>52555746
>dislikes measurements made in '3rd world counrties'
>buys headphones made in 3rd world countries
get your priorities straight

>>52555746
>multiple
If you're talking about Headroom and Innerfidelity, I hope you realize they aren't independent. Tyll is the guy behind both sets of measurements.

>>52555526
sennshill

>>52555834
fuck off shitposter.

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>>52555582
>HD600 Driver Matching.png

>>52555972
What I find even funnier is the whole deal about the HD600 over the old HD580 when it premiered was the 600 was supposed to have better driver matching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqJJ-2cRR0M
I hear a small static buzz in the left ear on the second chord of this song. Likely to be fixed by using an amp or problem with headphones? Going to ask a friend to try his dac/amp stack soon.

>>52556240
>600 was supposed to have better driver matching
It does.