What country in Europe is an NSA safe place to have servers? I'm thinking Estonia.
>where in europe no NSA
I can't laugh that hard, record yourself laughing and put it on loop.
>they arn't going for you specifically
why don't you just go fuck yourselves, you are missing the point and always the same.
Iceland. Switzerland used to be cool, but they seem to be cracking lately. Finland and Norway should be fine, too. If you're not hosting pro-human rights or pro-western stuff, East Europe and Russia might work. Avoid Sweden unless you have the dough to buy a whole rack at Bahnhof.
http://news.err (dot) ee/v/politics/c7b49df1-9840-4839-b5f0-d52d1be580fd
>WikiLeaks has published data showing the Estonian government has purchased FinFisher spyware for nearly 1.2 million euros since 2011.
If you don't upset the ruling political clique, maybe.
What IS a NSA-proof country for servers? How do Wikileaks and Piratebay do it nowadays?
>What country in Europe is an NSA safe place to have servers? I'm thinking Estonia.
I don't think FAPSI is any better than the NSA, anon.
>in the back-pocket of Putin
Sweden has their FRA law. Also, the DRD.
They're basically puppet states controlled by Putin.
Estonia is part of NATO and has already been Americucked.
our gubbernmint doesnt give a fuck about piracy unless you're like TPB or whatnot.
pedo stuff is a nono as usual. drawn and written (yes even that) things are grey area and might get you fucked.
NSA wise i would say that are jewish bootlicker so i guess you arent safe from that here.
You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Snowden, who worked in Geneva for some time has admitted that the Swiss authorities work hand in hand with the Americans and he revealed information regarding phone tapping in Switzerland orchestrated by the CIA.
I'm trying to help you poof fucking souls!
You think proton mail is safe because their press releases says so? Trust me: they will easily be compromised if the authorities choose to put pressure on them.
I agree, soon Our empire will rise again it's Allah's will
>largest ISP and mobile networking operator is owned by swedes
>largest bank is literally called SWEDBANK
>president was born in Sweden
swiss turned over bank info to americans
one thing they were famous for years and they broke that just because america was threatening to shutdown their banks in murrika.
bank secret keeping was/is part of their Constitution so yeah they broke that.
Here in Scandinavia we DO employ mass surveillance, but you are more likely to be ratted out by family members and held in check by your friends and family if you have political views that are unsavory.
The Norwegian secret police phones me all the time trying to get "interviews" when I don't have time for that. So apparently they believe my friends and family don't do enough. (probably because the only people who really know is me and the government because they snoop on what i do on the internet, I found that out when I actually went to one of the interviews and they kept bringing up all sort of shit from my past.)
But the mass surveilance is mostly just a problem for muslims like me. You can torrent freely and a newspaper article near christmas interviewed a bunch of pedos and they were mostly left alone despite the mass surveilance, they are only looking for dodgy muslims. You can order explosives and dangerous chemicals, as long as you are not a muslim they won't bat an eye.
No place is NSA safe as such because the NSA has funding and permission to spy comprehensively on *anyone* for basically no reason whatsoever.
Maybe some places in Europe are less likely to voluntarily cooperate with the NSA or the USA when you're not doing shit, but I think pretty much everyone including even Russia and so on will cooperate if it somehow seems like you're a terrorist or such and they have no reason to suspect it will disadvantage their country especially (If you were flagged as someone important for the nation, perhaps they might be reluctant? IDK.)
Estonia heavily relies on NATO for protection against Russia, also there are alot of people of russian ethnicity in Estonia. Communications are probably monitored and recorded by US. Its similar situation in all three Baltic states.
I suggest Romania, Moldova, Bulgaria, also Russia, with current economic crysis you can expect some good deals on hosting and increased admin wilingness to overlook certain less legal things.
sorry mannen, vi har någonting som kallas FRA här. NSA's penis är inuti FRA's mun.
for scrublords needing a translation
sorry m8 we have FRA here. NSA's penis is inside of FRA's mouth
> one thing they were famous for years and they broke that just because america was threatening to shutdown their banks in murrika.
No, it wasn't the banking business in the USA that was at stake. Most banks even kinda shut that down anyways.
It was more or less all international banking and access to various markets. The EU and some others also strongly pressured at the same time...
> bank secret keeping was/is part of their Constitution
Nope, it never was.
This, I am Romanian and during a night I was browsing Tor for some delicious cutie pies, I got a call from an unknown number that told me "You had enough for today, come back in a week or I'll have to cut it off". I said yes boss and didn't open em cutiepies since then. Turns out the ISP could see my https-less connection
> heat maps of which countries are tracked the most
Eh, NSA never really answered any such question even to the US congress, I think?
And even data sets like Snowden's leak wouldn't tell us the current state of affairs. How the fuck would anyone know this?
I'm taking the view that they record anything and everything they can with their budget, basically at random.
HTTPS works over SSL/TLS, which is an end-to-end encryption protocol. The whole point of Tor is anonymity through onion routing, in other words source routing where each hop is encrypted between nodes so no one single node except the entry node knows the entire path.
Created by the Swiss Banking Act of 1934, which led to the famous Swiss bank numbered account, the principle of bank secrecy is always considered one of the main aspects of private banking.
Okay bro. Main point was that murrika wanted tax dodgers in swiss and swiss bent over.
By the way, further pressure on Switzerland back then: OECD & G20.
Wasn't something Switzerland could retain under that pressure and with it's old European allies in banking secrecy (Austria, Luxemburg, Lichtenstein) also folding under that pressure.
It remains in its past state only domestically for Swiss (let's note here that the Swiss government itself always was able to ask banks for information when following due process).
But foreigners will now generally have their information extradited upon request even from a bureaucrat from the respective country.
All of this is also not actually NSA's work, though, just the stuff the OECD, G20, EU and USA's politicians and tax authorities wanted.
From my point of view, the NSA does not necessarily even have much political control. It's just pretty much "spy on everyone, do and find out anything you please", no?
>So what about the information between my computer and the first tor node? Can the ISP see that?
Well, usually the first tor node is your own computer, so no. But if you have to use a proxy to reach the Internet and therefore are unable to run the entry point on your own computer, then yes, the ISP can see that.
Also, if your ISP (or some all-seeing government entity [like the NSA]) can monitor the exit-node and the entry-node simultaneously, they might be able to infer that the entry-node is the entry-node.
See, had nothing to do with the constitution.
It was a government act that was issued some time prior to WW2. Not even a *very* old law by Swiss standards.
>Okay bro. Main point was that murrika wanted tax dodgers in swiss and swiss bent over.
And the EU, OECD plus G20. It seriously wasn't just the USA or the obviously even smaller part of the US government that is the NSA or IRS.
Besides, not quite everyone in Switzerland disagreed either.
And even with banking secrecy, if you had evidence for larger tax fraud or any other crimes, information was already handed out before that. It wasn't absolute. They primarily just got rid of the requirement of it being evidence for *larger* tax fraud.
But the url has to be sent to the tor nodes, right? And if that information isn't encrypted, then surely the ISP can do a man in the middle and figure out where I intend to go?
Ah, good to know. Now what if I use Windows 10.. Will Windows 10 somehow send data/compromise me? Like idk, keyloggers or sending screenshots or ram contents or something to MS/NSA?
you clearly have no idea what protonmail is about
your mailbox is encrypted from them, only you can decrypt it
the most they can do is sniff outgoing mail addresses and for that to be released it would have to have a warrant from the swiss authorities for a swiss citizen. in other words the US government have zero chance of putting pressure on protonmail to give up metadata (which is routinely deleted anyway) for a non swiss citizen.
Fuck knows, anything is possible with windows 10. However keep in mind that things you download through tor will be stored on your hdd, possibly even copies of your files, thumbnails, names of the filenames even if you delete the original files. This extra information maybe recovered with special software or may be (accidentally or not) sent to ms servers as part of telemetry. Also ms is known for their "anonymous" tips to the fbi
I wouldn't wouldn't host anything illegal in Finland. Once the cops find out, they don't even need a search warrant. People have had all their computers, including phones confiscated as "evidence", but it takes cops months to analyze them, because it's low priority. Very shitty and potentially more devastating than the actual punishment.
>"I'm thinking Estonia."
There's something you need to know about the baltics.
Countries like Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia are so massively butthurt from the Russians, and so ashamed of their eastern-bloc past, that are willing to do anything to be considered western.
They view US and Britain as their saviour on earth, and they'll fellate american and british cock until their knees bleed and their throats are soar.
If you care about privacy, choose a country where the government can't afford to care about cyber-thingies.
That would be most latin american countries, maybe Portugal, Spain and Greece, etc. .
>until their knees bleed and heir throats are soar
this is a real US government logo that was put on one of their latest satellites. I am not joking, google it if you dont believe me
now what was your question again OP?