Why do students waste their money on macbooks when something like this is more than sufficient for them?
$199 laptop. Good battery life, solid performance, Good build quality, looks nice.
Because most students get a big student loan and go into maximum good goy mode by splurging on the most expensive laptop they know of because everyone else will have one and they don't want to appear like they're poor.
Bringing a cheap walmart laptop makes you look poor.
That is the biggest pile of garbage I've seen all year. Geek Squad agent here, large store here in a college town, and we get one of those things returned about every 2 days. Then, it takes an ENTIRE day for it to get tested by us and reset. All. Fucking. Day.
Buy a Chromebook and not this joke.
>creaks then picked up
Because it's a very low quality device and it shows.
You don't need to buy a macbook, but don't stoop to ideapad levels - just becuase you heard /g/ loves Thinkpads doesn't mean everything Lenovo makes is good, in fact for the most part Lenovo is fucking shit, everything but the Thinkpads are terribad worse than HP and they've been cucking Thinkpad owners since IBM sold off their PC division.
Look into a cheaper Dell or even, fundly enough these days, Acer - they've improved a LOT in the last few years.
>tfw your thinkpad only cost you $60
>tfw the SSD inside of it cost more than the computer
>people at uni probably think i'm dirt poor because i have an ancient-looking computer and i'm too poor to afford windows
Because how much or how little you spend is closely tied to the performance of the machine and thusly the user experience with it.
This is exactly why people people who bought sub $500 laptops whine all day that windows is so slow and then decide that enough is enough and shell out ~2K on some macbook and then proclaim how "everything just works"
>Then, it takes an ENTIRE day for it to get tested by us and reset. All. Fucking. Day.
I once did a reset one lenovo laptop, doing it the 'secure' way takes ages to complete, literally like half a day to wipe/reset a 1TB HDD
>financial aid or parents will pay for it
>they can use it for things outside of school and it will last far longer both in usability and quality
>they actually want it in the first place
I'd buy something that cheap to use as a companion to something beefier, but I'd never in a million years use that much of a cheap piece of consumer shit like that as my sole laptop, even as a note taker.
This is the most retarded things ever. CPU is pretty much one of the least important things in a laptop. Anything past an i3 will be good enough for 99% of people. Screen, battery life, weight, keyboard, trackpad, etc are all much more important than the CPU.
I will say that I got a MacBook because I was dissatisfied with the emulation of it, I have Windows and Linux VMs that work flawlessly on it
Also I work at a help desk and I get a good portion of the Apple calls since most people think they're too good to work on them or something
Most people could do the majority of their work with a cheaper ThinkPad type device
Any good dirt cheap tablet with stylus?
I had in mind buying a toshiba dynapad but if there is a cheaper and reliable option that just werks for drawing and taking notes I would buy it.
>couldnt afford a macbook
Poverty fag detected.
im actually posting from this laptop
it gives me about 13hrs battery life
im travelling at the moment so i picked it up
its shit for any games other than 90s to early 2000s games like age of empires and shit like that.
but thats not what this is for
ram and emmc is soldered though, i opened it up and had a look
Just buy a Chromebook. My main laptop, a RMBP, isn't allowed to leave the country so I use an Asus CB when I do and it's amazing for how cheap it is. The screen is pretty nice and the battery is rock solid. I think the CPU is a Rockwell(?). Some ARM chip. Performs on par with the Intel Celeron in most CBs.
I need to put it in a race with that Toshiba junker that still rocks an AMD E1 chip to see what's the slowest piece of shit in the store. It must be done to pass the time during this crappy winter weather.
>literally half the performance of an eight year old cpu released in 2008
>trying to browse any kind of modern website without the entire OS locking up on a core2duo, but twice as slow
oh and if you want linux on this, its not impossible, maybe 5 people have done it successfully on forums out there
but its very very difficult to get working, as this is a 64 bit cpu and the bios is locked 32 bit efi mode, with only windows boot manager, so you cant even boot from a live usb with 32bit linux unless you have 32bit efi boot loader and even then most of this shit is unsupported
the windows 10 that comes stock is 32bit and the ram is 2gb non expandible
Don't blame him, he's a tech hipster who's gotta have MUH RETINA on everything like the other consumertard sheep told him to. Could you imagine not owning something that trendy in 2016?
>Bought an R60 for $30
>Put a new SSD and 4GB ram in it
>Everybody looks at it like it came out of the 80's
>Slapped stickers on it for shits and giggles
I just need a Trump sticker and an anime sticker now. Maybe a WAT sticker.
i already ripped mine open and what the FUCK is with those clips on the bottom, are they designed to snap off? i've opened hundreds of laptops but never have i opened one that broke this easily
i have that same cpu and no modern websites lock up on me
at least it's not a goddamn AMD E1
literally the worst CPU i've ever had the displeasure of using, even worse than gen 1 intel atoms
>>oh and if you want linux on this, its not impossible, maybe 5 people have done it successfully on forums out there
OHHH, So that's why it was apain in the ass.
>tfw you are 1 of those 5 people
Man, I could fill an entire greentext of the odyssey that was.
>that priceless feeling when someone next to you at uni sees the i7 sticker on your T420
>Make sure that the usb ports you are using, match (be 2.0 with a 2.0 port, 3.0 with 3.0, etc (2.0 be preferable))
>If you are making a live booting USB, use rufus instead of unetbootinb or usb live installer, etc.
>Make sure not to be using pic related (the 32GB version I think). Is infamous for making gnu/linux installations literally impossible, even if it works flawlessly as an everyday USB.
>Try using a disk tray instead of USB. I haven't myself tried it but who knows, it may work.
At the end you will have installed a barely working gnu/linux distro full of errors that you'll have to solve manually. Usually reinstalling fix them
I would have loved to have bought this some years ago when my only $200 choice was a chromebook
sure my chromebook is still running strong but linux needed some patching here and there to get it running decently but it's still going
>midrange desktop at home for more demanding computer uses
>low end $199 laptop for studying and taking notes at uni
This is how it should be for most students. Anyone who spends more either needs the better hardware in the laptop or is a complete idiot.
Most are just idiots.
People who drive retired police crown vics are the same kind of people who use old thinkpads
I'm sure they buy them for the same reasons, but the kind of person who hoards thinkpads is not the same kind of person who buys a detective crown vic for the purpose of scaring people on the highway.
I am one of those. I got a job as a web development start up and my thinkpad x220 isn't cutting it anymore, so I'm in the market for a new laptop. The rMBP is catching my eye super hard.
>Why do students waste their money on macbooks or new $200 budget tier craptops when something like this is more than sufficient for them?
>~$300 business surplus laptop. 15 hour battery life, excellent performance, excellent build quality, excellent user upgradability, looks nice.
>all these madfags
posting fom an 100s now, very happy with it. For the price point everything about it is good, the screen has great angles, though it really needs to be max brightness all the time. It's fast for what powers it, battery is excellent even with heavy use, it's light, keyboard is solid. Memory is not really an issue given what it is used for,
Lenovo being chinese spies and microsof being corporate privacy invasion personified is a worry though. Idk how to deal with suss lenovo activities, but wiping the ms botnet n win 10 is a fucking nightmare and installing linux is troublesome on it because it doesn't use BIOs or something idk.
Fucking awesome device though. Cheap laptop, cheap desktop and a large capacity home server is the future.
So much anal frustration in here.
Sent from my Macbook Air
>actually bragging about it
I'd be embarrassed to admit getting scammed that hard desu senpai.
>Why do people waste their money on x when something like y is more than sufficient for them?
Lots of reasons. People have different needs and some people don't like to have the absolute minimum of what works.
fair enough if you need a laptop with a bit more grunt so the kids can play their minecrafts or whatever, but most adults just need a device for business or learning and this does just fine.
Because my macbook pro has gotten me through all 4 years of college and still works flawlessly. About to replace the battery though because it doesn't hold quite the charge it did before and I only noticed its performance dip significantly in the last 6 months.
good to know other people actually use this
whats up with lenovo not hving drivers for this shit?
>keeping stickers on the computer
>not knowing your specs by heart
Only spec I remember is the 32 gig of storage, aside from core programs I don't store anything on it, I was just lucky I had a spare 64 gig sd card and that has a bit of music and other media, but really the only time I use that is when I'm flying or whatever. Would've been nice if it was a standard SD slot, rather than micro.
I honestly cannot see why anyone would by a high speced laptop anymore, you don't need a beast machine to work on the move, all it does is mae the device bigger and chew more battery.
Nobody in any decent university cares about anyone's laptops.
Hell, most would sooner judge you for having a laptop at all. Most students in my Appalachian Literature program don't have one.
Personally I've never been a fan of buying used.
I'm still on a sony vaio but I'm surprised that this laptop can almost match the battery life of my sony even though it has 2 batteries (one internal, one docked). Performance should be plenty for me since all I use it for is taking notes at uni and reading my lecture slides, maybe a little music playback too.
Lenovo 100s is $299 aus. I got my sony a few months ago for $270 used, from a friend.
Does the sony perform better? Fuck yes. Will I ever need that extra performance on my laptop? No.
The problem is with compromising on performance you also compromise on everything else, the two tend to go hand in hand (wish it didn't, I'd kill for a lightly specced but ultra-portable, flagship quality piece with a long battery life). I've always bought used because while it's a great feeling owning brand new hardware and having a warranty that will cover up my fuckups, I'd rather have a used high-end product that will probably last for years longer, look better, feel better, and perform better when I need it for running a VM or two or some heavier than average multitasking.
I never said the new one is better.
I just said that it does everything I need it to and has other advantaves, like being smaller and slimmer which makes it more portable.
The sony will easily outperform the lenovo. But the Lenovo 100s is still fast enough for my needs.
They each have their benefits.
holy shit you just made OP's laptop look awesome in comparisson
You're forgetting different use cases though. For many students the 100s is more ideal because of its portability and battery life.
Older high end laptops are better value though, I can't deny that.
The fuck you doing son?
>implying that lenovo ideapad will work for all students
>implying that thing can run photoshop, 3ds Max or Visual studio or whatever demanding program other students in other programs use
>implying that thing will last a year without being chucked off a cliff
I'd get one just because 32gb. Can't fit much distracting materials on there, but it's enough space for my music and study notes.
Plus it's flash memory so it does have some of the benefits of an SSD.
Pretty sure my piece of fucking horse shit garbage absolute cock-in-ass rimjobbing cuck of a Toshina Satellite P55W just died so I'm looking for something fairly cheap just to type up shit for uni... Any reccomendations fami/g/lia?
>Why do /g/fags waste their money on gaming gear when a console like Xbox One or PS4 is more than sufficient for them?
I can play this game as well anon. The key word is "them" what is sufficient in your eyes is not for someone else. There's this thing called preferences. You have them and so do other people.
tl;dr Fuck off shitposter.
Cs student here. Im from poland. I didnt get any loan, actually i dont pay for university either. Anyway, im on 2nd year and im using cheapest i could find acer laptop with celeron n2840. Es1-311. Its more than enough. Besides that laptop has 13 inch screen, 4gb ram and 6 hours battery life. Oh and a ssd drive. I recommend that, and no, nobody says im poor, stupid etc. Noone cares, well maybe in america where kids want to kill parents just because didnt get newest iphone for christmas, but not here.
Yes, but you have X220 power powering a display with 4x the resolution on native scaling and around 7x the resolution with virtual 1680x1050 Hi-DPI mode. It's a disaster for doing anything more than simple web browsing.
If you go the Mac route, you will have to spring for the 15", the 13" is an Air with a fancy screen.
Also the 10 hour battery life quote is for simple web browsing and videos. I use one daily for work and the battery barely lasts 4 hours. If you have a new 9 cell on the X220, it will last 3.5 hours absolutely flat out, 6-7 hours doing work.
Because it's momy's credit card and they look pretty.
Me, I just wanted the closest thing to solid I could buy, I had $1000 store credit thanks to a warranty claim on a toshiba, and the only thing the store had in metal where macbooks.
I used a "premium" laptop for two years, it ran fucking beautifully but the thing was falling apart from day one.
Two years onto my macbook air, it's as solid as it is on day one, and just as fucking annoying in a thousand other areas.
But it's consistent.
For $199 I wouldn't mind, if it had 4GB ram.
It'd have to be eMMC, right?
Because that thing is built like trash and will die or at least begin having issues a few months in.
They go with mac because they last longer than this chink botnet shit, you get what you pay for.
Also I'd rather be seen with a Mac than that pos.
It's flash memory so it has a lot of the advantages of an ssd with the read and write speeds of a standard laptop hdd.
Also for note taking and studying 2gb should be enough. Debloated windows 10 uses a tiny bit under 800mb ram on my desktop. I'm sure 1gb is enough to multitask office and a few internet tabs.
Office and a few internet tabs should be enough for most students. In the review the guy said it handled 12 tabs smoothly.
You need to look at more than just the numbers. Like are the numbers enough?
Different people have different use cases, but for a study laptop it's great.
I come from a third world, and I never saw students using laptops during lectures, so can you explain why would a student need a laptop with small resolution to make presentations and weak performances for CAD software?
To take notes during lectures? Doesn't seem viable, since there's no enough time to draw all those sketches and diagrams on laptop, so why would you carry it?
Playing around trying to create a VCS bridge webservice.
Mostly because I fucking hate git, but so many people seem to love it (or github, at least).
Syncing the repos themselves is not a big issue, but I'd like it to also handle github issues and wiki and comments and shit.
>I come from a third world, and I never saw students using laptops during lectures, so can you explain why would a student need a laptop with small resolution to make presentations and weak performances for CAD software?
>To take notes during lectures? Doesn't seem viable, since there's no enough time to draw all those sketches and diagrams on laptop, so why would you carry it?
>I never saw students using laptops during lectures
>I come from a third world
The above explains why. Had you not been from third world and financially not "poor" you'd buy a laptop for the convenience it allows.
>To take notes during lectures?
Yes, to take notes. It's entirely possible provided you're not a slowpoke keygazer.
>Doesn't seem viable, since there's no enough time to draw all those sketches and diagrams on laptop, so why would you carry it?
Here's some technews for you. Laptops and tablets (Surface line for example) these days offer touchscreen functionality and software for it, such as OneNote, which is awesome. The software is bretty good and you can ditch the keyboard entirely if you wish to write and draw on the screen all the time.
>so why would you carry it?
Having the possibility to access the internet on the go for quick facts lookup, quick document editing, cloud stored books, videos, university websites, quick emailing etc. etc. is very convenient in one device. Granted, laptops still have their inconveniences. which will be eliminated as technology progressed, but they can be overcome and the benefits they provide outweigh any cons laptops/tablet devices have.
>Why do people buy laptops with 1366x768 resolution?
Because having more on a laptop is pointless. Why destroy your eyes with small as shit desktop elements on an underpowered piece of shit laptop when you can just use a desktop with a large screen + large workspace?
Bought this bad boy for Uni 5 years ago for 400 eurobucks. Lasted me for all of it.
>Matte screen for muh reflections during daytime use.
>Size of an A4 piece of paper
>8-10 hour battery life, still gets 6+ 5 years later
>Core i3 CPU is surprisingly capable
>Bought a 60GB Sam 830 for it. From power button press to desktop is ~6-7 seconds.
>I've dropped it 10+ times and nothing broke, despite a large crack in the case surrounding the LCD panel.
>3 standard screws keeps the bottom on, that's it.
It just werked.
I wouldn't judge someone for getting an 11.6 inch air for college, it's probably what I would have gotten if I had an unlimited budget (but I didn't).
they're trying to kill linux so everyone is forced to use windows 10 to maximize microsoft's new business models of monetizing user metrics and selling it to ad and 3-letter agencies.
It's funny because it's not even their money they're wasting.
Most students invariably choose the macbook pro because everyone else has one and they don't want to be singled out.
Either their parents or their student loan money is footing the bill.
And when your tutition is $40,000+ a year, what's another $2000 for a laptop that is guaranteed to last you through college?
No poor people allowed in this thread.
Sent from my Retina 5k iMac
>>I've dropped it 10+ times and nothing broke, despite a large crack in the case surrounding the LCD panel.
It was designed for kiddies. I built a lab for 8th graders using those things.
How does having a $2000 prove you are not poor? It does prove you're a poser and you spend money on overpriced, underpowered stuff, but you could be skipping meals in order to pay for it for all we know.
In fact, we do know you suck cock. The question is, do you do it for money?
I have an HP Envy DV6 and I'm fucking sick of it
The battery doesn't hold a charge, it's slow as shit, can't run gayums, and even linux doesn't work on it
But I payed $700 for it a few years ago and now I can't even sell it for $400
lmaoing at all these poorfags that bought macbooks because they couldn't afford a surface book
>And when your tutition is $40,000+ a year,
You realize that student loans have debt limits,? Going to any school that has 40k a year tutition should be avoid like rat poison. Spending 2k on a hipster memetop increases your chances hitting that limit. If you hate that limit you going to have to get private student loan, those debt collectors will make your bitch.
The rule of thumb with student loan is to spend only the bar minimal because you going to anallying probe by the insane interest rates of students loan. 2K laptop is not a big deal because even min wagecuck or stable rich parents with proper budgeting could get a macbook pro if they get a down payment.
>falling for such obvious bait
>Because having more on a laptop is pointless.
I guess having a desktop at home or a phone is pointless too?
>Why destroy your eyes with small as shit desktop elements on an underpowered piece of shit laptop
Don't buy shit laptops with shit specs, problem solved.
>when you can just use a desktop with a large screen + large workspace?
But muh portability.
So can I ask for laptop recommendations in this thread? I have a desktop at home for intensive tasks so I just want a small lightweight laptop that I can take to class, all it will be used for is shitposting, microsoft office, MATLAB, and maybe some Aspen software. I need Windows, so that rules out Chromebooks, I guess. Do they even make cheap netbook style stuff anymore or should I just shell out for an ultrabook? I don't mind doing so, I guess, but it seems kind of unnecessary for my purposes.
Should I get an XPS13, is that still one of the best options? If I do so then is it worth it to upgrade from the cheapest one (i3 4GB RAM) to an i5 8GB model? And I like having a QHD monitor on my desktop, but that's 27" so I question whether upgrading from 1920x1080 to 3200x1800 is really a noticeably worthwhile upgrade on a screen that's only 13".
What else should I consider, Asus ultrabooks? I'm a pretty big fan of their laptops but lately me and everyone I know with an Asus has had problems with the chargers shitting themselves and replacements being unavailable except for questionable shitty off-brand ones.
my whole student life, i used an eee pc 1000he with xubuntu (then later, lubuntu)
it was fucking fantastic
it fit in any bag, it was light, it had 10 hours of battery, it booted in 30 seconds. i took all my notes in notetaking software with built in LaTeX for math. i redirected my university email (outlook) to thunderbird. the keyboard was fucking glorious and the thing was built like a tank
most students have macbooks because they go to university, it's their first time away from home and they haven't yet learned how to manage money. however they also don't know how to pick which laptop to buy, because the majority of laptops are garbage and they know they're safe with a macbook. is that really so bad?