What is /g/ consensus on whatsapp? Is it good? Is it at least kind of secure? I know signal is better in that regard, but no one uses it. How does it perform in comparison to Skype? Does it lag?
Yeah, that's what I'm asking, I'm kind of in situation where I need something similar to it to communicate for free and most people use it. Damn I doubt I could convince anyone to actually transfer to signal.
It's still OKish, it's just not good software.
Facebook will make it bad but very very gradually as not to insta lose the user base. The next thing is opt-in ads so companies can contact you automatically.
it obviously got jewed. that story with whatsappplus and the likes is more than a proof for this.
however, you'll never convince normies to not use it, so just deal with it and probably watch out what you type.
>How does it perform in comparison to Skype? Does it lag?
I've only used Whatsapp voice communication once and don't know. The text messenger part is very good however, it just works and doesn't take up much resources like Skype does.
whatsap is SHIIIIT
The web client is still a joke, telegram is superior in every single way.
They had to make all the licenses lifetime to stop bleeding users to telegram and now thanks to that stunt it won't even die as fast as before
Is it possible to get two whatsapp accounts on the same phone? I have dual SIM on my phone, one for personal contacts and the other for business, would like to keep whatsapp contacts seperate desu without buying another phone.
libresignal is a thing and it's compatible (for now) with signal. Signal devs are asshats though and might get assblasted at people using websockets instead of gcm and break compatability intentionally.
serious question. encryption and decryption is made on the device before it is sent, isn't it?
isn't GCM only a vector? layer 6 or 7 network application that just carries encrypted data?
The last I checked - which is before the recent update - WhatsApp on Android used code from TextSecure (now Signal) to implement the Axolotl end-to-end ratchet, which is really good encryption. However, they do not check the integrity of received keys, so it's possible for WhatsApp to MITM. There are vague indications from various law enforcement investigations that because it's possible, several jurisdictions have made them.
I don't think the iOS or other versions of WhatsApp use strong end-to-end encryption, but they did use hop-to-hop? However, I haven't checked either recently.
I don't exactly understand, but when I spoke to Facebook security engineers last, it turns out WhatsApp runs as an independent entity: FB just own the company.
This is correct: Telegram does not encrypt anything by default.
Yes, the encryption in Signal is end-to-end - device to device.
No, GCM doesn't carry data for Signal: it's only used for wakelocks.
Moxie wouldn't have a problem with alternative transports in principle if they work and integrate properly with everyone using Signal?
The big problem is that GCM is not just the only supported official push mechanism in Android, it's actually the only supported wakelock mechanism under Android Marshmallow or later's "deep sleep" paradigm - which will mean you will not get notifications for received messages until the device is woken manually: i.e. missed/late texts, which is the kind of thing that really pisses people off.
That's not Open Whisper Systems' fault: it's Google's, or rather Android's.
No mobile messenger currently available meaningfully protects against metadata surveillance, mass or targeted. The best we can do today is Pond (high-latency asynchronous systems), or Ricochet (P2P Tor hidden service messaging).
Sorry, but secure communication in the face of a global passive/active attacker is an open research problem.
> Moxie wouldn't have a problem with alternative transports in principle if they work and integrate properly with everyone using Signal?
Is the reason there's no support for general file transfers and other stuff to keep SMS/MMS compatibility?