Hey /g/, should I continue to upgrade my PC parts or buy/build a new one altogether? Currently i am not really having any problems with my PC. I can run graphics heavy game like Arma 3 on high (not ultra) and get ~35-40 fps. My concern is that my PC is somewhere around 6 years old and currently running Vista which seems to be on the borderline of a minimum requirement OS. Is it possible to theoretically keep a pc forever by just upgrading part by part? The next thing i want to upgrade is my GPU but im hoping i wont have any bottleneck issues in the near future.
Here are my specs: Manufacturer/Model: HP/p6130y OS: Wndows Vista Home Premium Service Pack 2 Processor: AMD Phenom 9750 Quad-core processor 2.40GHz RAM: 8GB Sys type: 64bit Current Video Card: NVIDA GeForce GTX 550 Ti Video Card I plan to upgrade to: XFX AMD Radeon R9 380
You're gaymer so the R9 390 isn't a bad choice.
But if you were more of a power-user with workstation interests, I would go for a mobo+processor re-haul first. An FX-8350+970chipset is dirt cheap nowadays; and would double your core-count.
these are the only issues I could see
other than this your system should be fine
only issue is with upgrading the CPU, you'd need a newer board with an AM3+/LGA 2011 socket
The Phenom will bottleneck not because its a phenom, but because your board won't support PCIe 3.1 as well as most other new techs. It also won't have the throughput to use a 390 to capacity.
If you have a budget, what is it? I say go all new as the HP you have is prebuilt meaning limited on upgrades.
Budget when it comes to (building/buying) a whole new pc? Probably around 900$ max. Maybe 1K assuming i can sell most of my current parts for successful profits. Or do you think i should/could just transfer over all parts except maybe get a new CPU and probably a new cpu casing?
My system is comparable and I've thought the same thing. Truth of the matter is that it still fits my needs and plays a ton of games just fine. As I get older I realize I have better things to worry about or spend money on.
Then entire rig should be built around what resolution your monitor is and its target refresh rate.
You can't really build a decent rig until you give us these details.
Run speccy and post a screenshot
>anything less than pcie 3.1 is a bottleneck
Op, upgrade to an i3 6100, r9 380x, and 8gb ddr4 ram. Your hdd and monitor can be reused, letting you fit an ssd into your budget.
Want me to get on pc parts picker for you and do a hypothetical build?
Unfortunately that i3 would outperform the 8 core fx processor thanks to having less than half the ipc and many games still limiting themselves to 4 threads.
The i3 will run cooler, consume less energy, perform better in some games, and since op has to buy new ram anyways, it has the advantage of being ddr4 instead of ddr3 on the fx.
I'm working on it :)
The fx8350 does open-world a lot better and has better core-to-price ratio. Also, you never go half-retard in upgrading. An i3? Might as well stick a dildo up your ass.
no game utilizes past 1866mhz anyway. Enjoy your shitty 16 latency, rajesh.
What you're saying makes no sense.
The number of cores doesn't mean shit when each core is less than half as fast as the competition. Most games still won't use more than 2 or 4 threads. The fx 8350 is only better if op is doing rendering.
I tried to keep it close to 700 dollars. I could make it a little cheaper if you want but you'll lose performance. The i5 is a quad core.
The number of cores makes sense when your literally getting higher FPS in high-poly levels.
>now recommending the i5-6500
rajesh, just admit you lost the argument. We don't have a death penalty for being wrong in america.
Can we please be serious here? This is for op. I don't want him to waste his money.
More cores != better.
Ipc is more important.
How about you get on pc part picker and try building something for op?
Literally no point buying AMD now when zen is going to come out this year.
The price is fine, im looking for a pc that can last years. My current power supply is around 600W, does that still need upgrading. Also, shouldnt i get Windows 10? or just do 8 and get the free upgrade..
I didn't mean it specifically. Finish the sentence. It also includes DDR3, possibly better capacitors, a much faster experience in every regard. He may be at his SATA port limit as is. He also stated it is a prebuilt HP that has limited upgradeability. I'm sorry I did not go into more detail before.
600w should be fine, but I'd recommend a new one since its aged a bit and it came with the pre-built?
For windows just go with whatever turns out cheaper, since the upgrade is free.
You can get a better i5 if you want, like the 6600, but in my opinion it won't really make much difference. If you want to overclock you'll need a new motherboard.
The 390 should also last quite some time since it has a lot of vram and is based on AMDs GCN architecture which will remain competitive for years thanks to its compute capabilities. Current Nvidia cards aren't really worth it, except for the 980 ti, but that's quite a bit more expensive.
Alright cool, and nah i upgraded my power supply after my last one didnt have enough cooling and fried my old GPU.
A few remaining questions since im completely new to building pcs.
1. You said earlier i can keep my HDD but then put a SSD in the parts list. Arent PCs built with one or the other or do they work together?
2. When you say i need a new motherboard, is that referring to my current one, or the one you posted on the parts list?
3. Lastly, is the casing on the list sized to fit all the parts or will i have to do the measurements individually?
They work together.
Usually you'll get 240gb ssd and install windows on that. All your programs and games would typically be on the ssd.
Then you'd have a hdd, usually 1tb, that'll store all your videos, music, and other important data.
An ssd is just a hard drive that uses flash memory instead of a mechanical disk. The storage method is different but the interface between the drive and the pc is the same.
Also if it's your own psu then you can skip the one I included. I just did that build for reverence to give you an idea.
So the SSD is just to open programs quicker ?
Hypothetically speaking if i were to get all those parts there would be no bottlenecking? If i were to upgrade to i7-4790 would that be worth it or is that going too far for the motherboard?
Ssd is just to make windows and your programs load faster, but you'd be surprised at how much faster. I'm on an old crucial mx100 ssd and everything is loaded in 20 second after pressing the power button.
And since you'll be buying new ram anyways, I think you should stick to the Intel 6th gen processors, because they're ddr4.
I7 4790 is ddr3.
Another advantage of ddr4, other than the speed, is that it's still new and will be used for a while, like ddr3 was. When you upgrade you'll have the option reusing the ram so you can put more of your budget into the cpu or gpu.
Literally no point buying AMD now. Even if zen won't be as good as skylake it'll still be much better than vishera.
I can't wait for zen, going to get a zen a8 when they come out. APUs should improve massively with the die shrink, better engineering, and ddr4.
OP mentioned he plays arma. For the love of god don't get an FX processor, the single core performance is horrible. OP should get an I5 4460 or 4690K. I speak from experience, I am currently using a fx 8350